JBP
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 845

Atheist Mingle

Joe Budden Podcast Episode 845, “Atheist Mingle,” released July 24, 2025. Joe’s New York Times article opens the latest episode of the JBP as the cast reacts to the reveal of Patreon revenue numbers (19:20) before turning to Shannon Sharpe’s settled lawsuit in which the victim says she is retiring from OnlyFans (26:56). Tyler, The Creator drops a new album ‘Don’t Tap The Glass’ (44:41) which leads into a conversation surrounding Rap artists with longevity and marketing (57:32), WNBA players are demanding more money (1:46:10), and Fat Joe performs at Sea World (2:13:20). Malcolm-Jamal Warner, known for his role as Theo Huxtable in The Cosby Show, passes away at 54 (2:16:35), the room debates what amount of money would make them happy (2:43:30), and much more. Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

Atheist Mingle

In this episode

  • 19:20Joe’s New York Times article opens the latest episode of the JBP as the cast reacts to the reveal of Patreon r…
  • 26:56Before turning to Shannon Sharpe’s settled lawsuit in which the victim says she is retiring from OnlyFans
  • 44:41Tyler, The Creator drops a new album ‘Don’t Tap The Glass’
  • 57:32Which leads into a conversation surrounding Rap artists with longevity and marketing
  • 1:46:10WNBA players are demanding more money
  • 2:13:20Fat Joe performs at Sea World
  • 2:16:35Malcolm-Jamal Warner, known for his role as Theo Huxtable in The Cosby Show, passes away at 54
  • 2:43:30The room debates what amount of money would make them happy
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Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 845 Transcript

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    The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets hosts are for entertainment purposes

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    only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing,

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    indicting or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained

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    professionals who do not have your best interest at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

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    Microphone check. What is this?

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    JB back to business. I guess right now we should start the

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    show. It's a good camera. It makes it look

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    really cinematic when you do. It does. It does. I just bought mine. I just bought mine today. You stole the spike lead thing when they roll the

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    thing. You did that effect. No. No. I don't do all I didn't even know that the JBP needed

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    the FX6. That's dope. That's not, you know, it has that's the AM.

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    The imp. Yeah. We need We need

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    I see today is one of the days I'm going to need my headphones. M A I I'm going to need to hear everything.

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    M AI. Oh, that's true. That's true. I appreciate the black man first. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Wow. Okay. Y making moves up here. I put

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    whoever named first is in front of me. Like that's how I do it. In front of me

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    is Mark and Ian show. And with Ian is the Ian and Mark show. I respect that. Hello. What about when they both there?

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    Oh, then I don't say it. That show. Y show. It's y'all show. Got it. Got it. Got it.

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    He ain't trying to make moves though. He think I don't see what he doing too. I see what he doing. He He got He doing

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    something. I've been at the Just in case. Hey, hey, hey. Can't be mad at them,

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    brother. I ain't mad at him. Call Vince McMahon in a minute. He told me said it ain't live call. Somebody call.

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    I'm watching. Look. First of I heard this. Oh, oops.

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    What's up y'all? Man, your little skit about to pay off. They going give you an

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    Abraham Lincoln beard. It's cool. I'm with you. Mark acting his ass off. What's What's

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    dude? Bravo. Macho. You need a macho deal. You need a movie deal with Macho,

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    [ __ ] Heard these days. Our our sister in Christ is not here with us today. Why not?

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    She is away shooting her movie. Dope. And this time has been in for months. A

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    month. Over a month. Don't y'all dry your [ __ ] up yet. Anybody?

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    Oh, anybody. You know the fans. Nobody cares about she ducking smooth up here at all.

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    We don't we don't care. I give a [ __ ] We support her

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    and we going to watch the movie. I'm definitely what that part. Oh, I forgot I got a male movie in the

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    tuck. Oo. Oh, damn. There is I still I haven't watched the uh

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    I got the male movie in the tuck and the Mark cult uh doc. Ah, he still never said which one was a good

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    one. You found it. He sent it in the group. You're not in the chat. Can we make a new one so you to

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    accommodate your green bubble? No, no, it's buffoonery. Although it's better now. The green bubbles. I will say that

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    it is. Why? It's emerald green. What are you talking about? It's a different green. They work better now.

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    Yeah, they work better. I'm serious. All jokes aside, Apple Apple enabled the RCS [ __ ] that

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    y'all use. So now the communication between the two are much better. It's not as red receipts on the pictures come

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    through, right? All that type of [ __ ] So maybe it's time to addish. We'll see. I think it's time. I think it's time.

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    You be missing some vital information. I'm cool. No, he's not. No, it's not. Yo, what what is the new Mel movie

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    about? I don't know. She don't tell us our business. Do we Do we need to know? Do we care?

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    I'm just saying play regardless play. How How many days How many days they shooting? I don't know.

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    I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's all good. How many days shooting? Was that the Times?

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    Or someone that read the Times? Yes, that was someone that read. Oh, yeah. I got a couple of them calls. I bet you did. I bet you did.

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    I'm not I'm not sure how many days. I think she might have asked for a week or two. Oh, 10 movies.

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    No, shoot. [ __ ] up. From her seat though. From her seat. The

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    diabolical part of it. A feature film. Holy [ __ ] Have you seen one of the movies?

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    I have not. I'm You know what? They're on my They were on my to-do list. They're great. I enjoy I enjoy all of

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    them. Gotcha. I enjoy all of them. Shout out to our sister. Don't worry. I'm going to get us started. Don't worry cuz I I hear y'all.

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    This pod these damn You got to watch these dude pods. These dude pods.

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    Everybody come to the club with a burner. The dude pod is like one in my sock.

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    Security Cory. Yeah. Yeah. No security in my one in my one in my hip.

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    Just in case. to dap them up. Might run out. That was like the Bronx on Friday. Woo. I ain't been there on a Friday in a

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    while cuz you know, not allowed. [Laughter]

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    I went in there with a whole different vibe in there. F. It's like every hood. It's some Brooklyn [ __ ] and some Bronx

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    [ __ ] and some Staten Island. [ __ ] don't mix. That [ __ ] don't mix. All these [ __ ] had some [ __ ] with

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    them. Oh, that's don't mix. Yeah, that's what a dude like Mhm. Yeah. Everybody,

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    oh my god, Jesus. We tension is thicker than German dogs in here, [ __ ]

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    Just walking here and they see all the brothers smiling, right? We all in a good space, a good mood. Look us out at

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    the mark. Yeah. You looking confused? You okay? You know what I'm talking about? Well, shouldn't we all be in a great mood?

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    Uh, yeah, maybe. Maybe we'll get to it. We'll get to it. We shouldn't be in a

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    great mood. Are you in a great mood? No. I mean, I I see what today is. Yeah.

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    Today. Today. What? What's today? It's you. Oh, go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. It's YouTube. YouTube. YouTube.

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    Made some noise. Make some noise. I got paid. [ __ ] got that YouTube check. Hey,

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    I got I got paid. Shout out to everybody out there. Got that YouTube.

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    That Ade I got I got paid yesterday. Oh, that's why you talking about the FX uh the FXR.

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    FX6 and the FX6. Yeah. You don't get myself a new one. I got a couple. But at the same time, I

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    think that what it is is for the camping [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. For my camping trip. Yeah. I told you my business. I'm none of yours.

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    My bad. None of yours yet. We going to get to it. You trying to You talking about my type of job.

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    Whatever you think I'm on, I'm on that. You said you bought a couple of them.

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    Yeah. However you think I feel, I feel that. How much they cost?

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    Eight. A lot. Eight bands. Yeah. Oh, you can get two, three, four of them. [ __ ] But no, not two, three, four.

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    All right, I see what y'all on today. I got to use your headphones today, please. I got it. That shit's fire. Great camera, though.

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    I'm about to get marks, [ __ ] I'm about to take marks from this, [ __ ]

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    Using yours, boy. [ __ ] better,

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    man. Turn this [ __ ] the [ __ ] up. Turn this [ __ ] the [ __ ] up, man. Rest in

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    peace, Malcolm Jamal Warner. Hold up, man. Rest in peace. Rest in peace, Pop

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    Smoke. Rest in peace, Young Dog. Rest in peace all of the black

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    excellence that we have lost. This show is dedicated to y'all and bad state. White excellence dude. Rest in

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    peace bad state. Rest in peace. Stop playing. Yo Bishopante. Rest in peace. Rest in peace Bishop. Keep the [ __ ]

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    applause going for Bishop Regant, [ __ ] Rest in peace. Godamn it. Fat man scoop.

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    Rest in peace. Her Gotti Clark. Rest in peace. Beat King. You know what I mean?

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    some of the greats we lost. Thank God for getting us here today, y'all, as well. Putting breath in our lungs this

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    morning. You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with us. Best broadcast in the universe. We are so grateful and so happy to have you.

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    Let me get these drops out the way real quick, man, so we can get to the business.

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    Shout out to all the ladies listening.

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    Shout out to the educator community. Peace. Peace. Peace. How you greet them [ __ ] Mark?

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    Peace. Peace. Shal. Yo. Yo. Hello, my brother. Nice to see

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    you again, bro. Who is that? Who is that?

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    Shout out to all the [ __ ] constructor [ __ ] The construction, the real dude. How we greet the [ __ ] Talk to these

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    [ __ ] Yeah. Wan, right? How we greet the [ __ ] going, right? Yeah. I mean, pick up that [ __ ]

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    sheetrock. What's the [ __ ] down, [ __ ] What's the [ __ ] that cover the uh the the the top of the house called the

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    roof? Singles. Pick up the [ __ ] [ __ ] Pick the shingles up, [ __ ] Hey yo, we don't got the machine.

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    Keep the applause going for the machine, [ __ ] You [ __ ] call that now to do the jingle. We don't got the machine here, [ __ ]

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    Labor. You stupid. What episode is this, man? 8:45. Welcome to episode 845. Best broadcast

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    in the world. Best broadcasters in the world. This broadcast is brought to you by Fueled by, powered by Prize Pix Gang,

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    Prices Gang. You uh I am your humble, grateful, gracious, so happy to be here. your host Joe Button here with some

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    really amazing people. Again, our sister in Christ Mel is not here. She is away shooting a movie. To my right, the good

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    brother Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building. Mark, how you feeling, man? Feeling good, man. Feeling good, good,

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    good. Happy to have you. Next to him, Queens, get the money. Big Queen Flip is in the building. Queens, how you doing?

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    I feel good. I feel great, my man. Happy to be here. So happy to have you here. Next to him, you see the vibes. King Dimples.

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    King Dimples himself. Look at this.

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    this your man big in the building.

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    Yo, [ __ ] like a salmon green. Salmon and green, [ __ ] How you feeling? [ __ ] like soul food. Let's go, boy.

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    And you too. How you feeling is excuse me? This a serious matter.

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    All you miss is Ultima. Oh, I've been in a few. We know. We

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    know. [ __ ] thank you. Give out a few. How you feeling? Stupid. I'm good. Yo, good. Good. Happy to have you here, my

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    brother. Next, [ __ ] He don't respond like us,

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    [ __ ] He ain't going to say what you want to say. We ain't going to say what you want us to say, [ __ ] I only did that for for the show. We ain't going to

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    say what you wanted to say. Oh, I'm happy to be here. We ain't going to say that, boy. That's what I'm supposed to. No,

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    I am happy to be here. I'm not following tricks today. You know, I'm in such a great mood.

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    I'm not falling for none of this. I seen foot tweet this morning. He said, "Oh, hell no." And I was like, "Oh, no. I'm

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    not [ __ ] with today." Next to ish, you know the [ __ ] vibes. Big Freeze. Mr. Take it further. Ice in the

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    building. How you feeling, Freeze? I'm good. I'm good. Good. Good. Good to have you here. Next to Freeze, King Elmyra. Big Parks.

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    Parks in the building. How you doing, Parks? I'm excellent, man. Spent the weekend with the family, man. I'm chilling.

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    Awesome. in Elmmyra. Uh, we were at the lake. I would say white people got lake when they when

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    they say they got lake properties. When they say they was with the family, they got a lake somewhere, [ __ ] They got a

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    koi pond. You got a swing. I'm sorry. The little tire with the swing. No, there's no swing.

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    And [ __ ] and do you swing? Oh, no. The personal question.

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    Yo, I was looking at real estate in Elmyra. Oh, yeah. Yo, that [ __ ] Shut the [ __ ] up. I was that [ __ ] I know. But shut up.

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    Keep it down. That boy out here making moves. Shut the [ __ ] up. Two rollies bins.

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    Trying to blow [ __ ] up. Party. Party. Cat daddy. You trying to get Park Street out there? You trying to get you trying to get the

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    parks compound? Valley Court.

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    Oh, that's dope. Uh, Parks. No, it was fire though. I had a good good weekend. Just sat and listen to everybody's voice

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    for a weekend. Everyone was there. You know what I mean? You ever do that? What? I know it's probably weird. I just had

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    listen to people like your friends and loved one and appreciated their [ __ ] voice. I know you're talking about

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    that's fire. Yeah, it's fine. I do that sometimes. Yeah. You get so caught up in our world that

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    you you know you had to it humbles you sometimes just see how they think and what's going on with them. I know what you're talking about. Yeah.

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    And people leaving. Yeah. Yeah. That's the real [ __ ] That's for sure. Let me text my [ __ ] little brother. That [ __ ] text me about

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    nine texts. That was dope. They were so dope that I acknowledged them and didn't reply. You ain't had nothing to say back

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    cuz they were so fly like my [ __ ] cooking and just put the rapper thumbs up you up little rapper

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    too. He no just with different Yeah. I think his last text was yo the addition of Mark great y'all see what y'all doing and y

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    just supportive like little brother text. We ain't always we ain't always I mean so that's that's

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    fly. That's amazing. That's fly. Po is here. Cory is still here single in July the end of July.

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    Cory what's up man. Let's supposed to be single in the summer. Honestly, yo,

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    supposed to be single in the summer. Honestly, get a okay cupid, man. Okay, Cupid.

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    Christian mingle. Puddle of fish. Yo, got atheist. Atheist mingle.

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    Got atheist mingle. The universe brought us together. Universe mingle.

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    Hey, God will not put no [ __ ] in core life, man. God damn it. Universal Cupid. Oh man, this guy's

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    crazy. That [ __ ] Cory just home watching Prison Break.

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    Dire. He's just home watching all the assig

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    gets in touch with the feminist side. Yo, [ __ ] like the wire, too. Cory, come on. Get it together, man. Erikson

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    is back there. Ian and Kee, I think, are here. Savon and Tan are here. Last, but

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    certainly not least, each and every one of you guys are here, man. How's everybody doing, man? What's going on?

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    Great, man. Chilling. Stupid. Great. Great. I'm just happy. Happy to be here. What was your weekend like?

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    Great, man. Family filming, just moving around. Yo, you doing a a camping trip, a

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    cookout or something? I am doing a camping trip. Uh, tense type of type of August. Yeah. With a

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    bunch of people. Intense. Intense. Yes. Where? And intense probably, too. Pennsylvania.

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    Seriously? Yeah. Yeah. Where? Where? In Pennsylvania. I don't want to say all that. Oh, got you. Got you. Got you. Just be careful out there, man. My homie

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    got killed out there. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Camping. We killed a dog. I I don't want that to happen to Flip.

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    You said be careful. I mean, it's going to be 20 30 of us. But that's what happened with my man. 30 people killed him.

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    30 was there and somebody ran No. Dude ran up and shot shot up the spot. They got argument. got his gun and shot

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    but Mark, why would you share that right now? Because rest in peace to your man. In Pennsylvania, you can bring a weapon.

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    I just want to bring a weapon just to be safe. Keep something in tr

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    and on top of that like you know it's it's it's I'm taking certain measures to make sure that we're secured and protected. I got some people coming. So

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    just call me before you go. Yeah. No, it's all right. I will call you but they don't know you in that part. Yeah, you might. You don't even know

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    what part. It's the woods. It's all out there. The biz know you. Yeah, it's the No, no. I'm chilling.

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    You about to say something, though. You It's right there. I didn't know if the if Instagram security is going to risk their life the

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    way normal security do. Oh, no. I got No, no, no. I don't think I I don't have Instagram security. I know you posted on the story. Yo, I

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    need somebody to secure. No, I didn't post that in the story. No, no. I And don't get too friendly and familiar.

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    Yeah, I I post that so they could be prepared for the type of act, you know, my my character. But I pay for security.

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    All right. Then I had a room. Yeah. You going to give them free room and board in the tent? Nah, they got to take their own tent.

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    The security. No. Oh, the security. No. No. I was about to say security. The security. I take care of my security. Yeah.

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    You talking about security last time? Yeah. I'm talking [ __ ] Got two more. I'm just talking. Hey, why not? I got to see you.

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    Why not? One shot.

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    Try to get my good side, boy. You know how to get to me too. You be reeling me in. You You master the puppet mastery.

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    There's no puppet mastery. You just get me in like you be hyping me. I be in the boo. I be eager to come to work on Tuesdays

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    in CA. I couldn't wait to see you, son. Like really? Oh, I miss you. I miss you. Yo,

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    I miss you too, man. Did you read the article? Um, no. I did not read the article, but I saw the headline. Saw the headline.

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    I was proud of Can I pull up the headline? Please do. Oh, why you do that? I didn't even know the article dropped. I just knew I just knew

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    by my phone ringing from people that I haven't spoken to in a while.

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    I'm talking about over four years. Oh, she she texting again. No, not a she. No, no, no.

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    Hey, big like that massage. You still got like that neck rub.

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    She Hey, she texting again. My baby. Is this number still the same?

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    Y playing I'm not playing with Breeze. Let me know. I'm not playing with Breez.

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    N man. [ __ ] I ain't spoke to in years. I answered the phone. Yo, what up, man? Yo, I'm in a bind, bro. Uh,

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    who is this? Yo, dog. I can't even hear you. I'm on the bridge. I'm going to call you back in like 2 seconds. My signal go out

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    right here. Signal go out. Yeah. [ __ ] For those wondering, my signal be extra strong. This morning is a great

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    morning to leave [ __ ] in a bind. This morning is was the perfect morning.

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    Hey, some of them don't even hang up right away, so you can hear the bind.

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    You can hear a tow truck or some shitep beep.

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    What you in a net duct tape, boy? Like, what kind of real some of these [ __ ] woke up talking about, yo, adopt this

  • 18:28

    little [ __ ] for a few summers. Like, no, [ __ ] Take care of your kids. Yo, people are wondering what we talking

  • 18:34

    about. The headline from the New York Times today says, "How does this podcast star make 2020

  • 18:42

    two 20 million a year?" And we all sat up and asked the same

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    question. How the [ __ ] does he do that? What's What's Did you read it? I I read the article. Yeah, I read everything.

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    They give a breakdown. A little something. Yeah. Yeah. I I encourage everybody to read this article. It's a good article.

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    You can't say that. I didn't write it. I'm complimenting the writer for

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    Yeah, but they biging you up. Let us say that [ __ ] like Yeah, they biging y'all up, too.

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    They are. They are. Well, no, they big they mention us. They biging y'all up, too. They say we're there, too.

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    Don't get humble now. They sit down with him, right? I got to read this article.

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    I had to read the article now. How'd you feel letting the New York Times

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    put this information out there? We've been very sort of ky and quiet about revenue and in the last month people

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    have gone from hearing big numbers like 900,000 a month to finding out that that's actually minuscule in comparison

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    to this 20 million a year. That's a lot of information for the world to have. How do you feel about that on the publishing side?

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    Here we go. Y no the 20 is some [ __ ]

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    just, you know, how do you feel, [ __ ] 20 is a slight feel good. None of this is possible without the fans.

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    I feel good, right? Stephanie Mills, without the people that was there from day one.

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    Peasy Parks, come on now. Ericson, y'all. Yeah, we appreciate it. Yeah. No, it's dope. Last time I was in

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    the Times, it was the entertainment section seven years ago. That's fire. This ain't entertainment now.

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    It's business entertainment no more. Yeah. So, that's what's up. Shout out there. I hope I hope black media covers this well because these are

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    the stories that people don't don't cover. They'll cover they're going to cover it. It's just not going to be the way you think they going

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    to cover. They might. It depends. And that's the part I don't like. You know what I'm saying? Like if you can cover the other [ __ ] from last year,

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    then you can you can cover this [ __ ] That's all I'm saying. Let the cheers be as loud as a criticism.

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    They said I said no. Yeah, it should. That's not how it works. Yuck. Everybody

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    up here know that. All you [ __ ] that made fun of my man when [ __ ] whatever [ __ ] make fun of this.

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    This is a slap in your face [ __ ] Selfbuilt independently. That's a fact.

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    And this is a testament to how and a motivation to others that don't give up.

  • 21:06

    Believe in yourself and you get done. [ __ ] we salute you, man. I appreciate that. Yeah. Hold your side. I think that's we going to make a shitload of jokes,

  • 21:12

    but I agree with everything heard. I know. I know y'all do. I know. We know your ass, though. How y'all feel about that co-host part?

  • 21:18

    They did mention co-hosting. All right. Tell us. Tell us. You read it. They

  • 21:23

    mentioned co-host revenue or co-host income. That's the y'all part. Yeah, that's the US. It said Joe Button

  • 21:29

    in them. Uh, it said payment of these contractors. I guess that's us. That's the big up.

  • 21:34

    Payment of these contractors and the on-air talent is the company's biggest expense. For example, more than $1.5

  • 21:42

    million annually goes to the co-hosts of the Joe Button podcast. And they say they include clean Queens Flip, me, Mel

  • 21:49

    Parks, is uh and Ice and Ammani. They didn't say Ammani.

  • 21:55

    I know, but I'm saying Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. Shout out to Ammani. I wasn't trying to play them. I just saying they didn't say in the article. They should have, though.

  • 22:00

    Yeah, they should have. Yeah. Okay, that's nice. How'd that make y'all feel? Cuz that's going to change people. People will

  • 22:06

    start calling y'all, too. I've been getting phone calls. I know you not even accurate. Well, I can't. I hope so. Yo, please keep

  • 22:12

    calling for years. No, that's a good thing. It said 1.5 a year collectively. Yeah. No, that's great. No, it said more than

  • 22:19

    Oh, that's great, too. It said more than the rumors was that they you was paying individually that.

  • 22:25

    Yeah. Everybody know that's great. Rumor where

  • 22:31

    you think I'm joking? The streets, [ __ ] The streets be saying that [ __ ] make a million dollars a year up here a

  • 22:37

    piece each. That's why I left the streets. All right. But you come in here and report street.

  • 22:44

    If you in the streets long enough and you're not of it like me. I don't mean those streets. I mean like

  • 22:49

    the internet streets are they say that. But they got a calculator. Yeah. This is prior to this. So I'm happy that

  • 22:56

    that they thought you was making 40 or 50. Oh, come on now. I mean

  • 23:02

    I mean I mean I hate this [ __ ]

  • 23:09

    Yeah. But they definitely overinflated what they thought everyone up here was probably making. So it's probably good

  • 23:14

    for people to They did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bring them bring them back down to reality. I want Yeah.

  • 23:19

    Well, if Well, if we don't do that Times piece, then there is no voice on the independent contractor side to say what

  • 23:26

    the potential could be if you go that route. Right. You always get the headlines from the people that are partnered with signs

  • 23:35

    and they playing a different game with the shareholders and yada yada yada yada. But there is nobody that's going

  • 23:40

    to say, "Hey, you could do it this way." I mean, outside of the streamers who

  • 23:45

    were just hitting that lick and saying, but even that is a but that's still a lot of partnership. So,

  • 23:51

    yeah, it's dope. It's dope to see uh head down back to the work till till I'm

  • 23:57

    50. And the ownership part that's that's really where the dope is coming. Yeah. Like whatever happened next with with

  • 24:04

    technology or whatever, nobody can make your decisions for you. Mhm. when the next version of streaming

  • 24:10

    drops. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz that's the one thing you mentioned the streamers like you partner up with there. They that company still owns that

  • 24:16

    content though, right? Listen, shout out to everybody getting it out there. Yeah. Everybody get to it where there's

  • 24:24

    a will, there's a way, and it's out there. You can do it. Uh where would y'all like to begin? I don't know if y'all want to start uh

  • 24:31

    with Malcolm Jamal Warner. I don't want to bring the energy about I didn't want to get that heavy that suit when you

  • 24:36

    said people getting it. I was thinking about homeg girl to settle her suit with Shannon Sharp. Yeah. Get it. How you get it? She got

  • 24:42

    it. She and I mean she's retiring from Only Fans. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what that means for some of

  • 24:48

    y'all. Y'all might be fans of hers or y'all might have an investment. I'm not familiar with the lady's work.

  • 24:53

    I'm going to make a citizen's arrest if I ever see that lady. Yeah, right. That lady needs to be under the jail.

  • 25:00

    Guess what else she going to do? She going to crack your ass.

  • 25:05

    Must be will be right by your muffin. You crazy. That lady needs to be under under the

  • 25:11

    jail. Did they announce how much you made? No, they didn't. But it was enough for her to leave her only fans.

  • 25:16

    Sure. Yeah. That that to me was like the signal cuz they they did the thing where like, you know, you don't disclose the amount.

  • 25:22

    Shannon got what he needed, I think, maybe to save his ESPN job potentially, right? Which was they both agreed that

  • 25:27

    it was like a tumultuous but consensual relationship. consensual in there. That's major. Well, that's where my

  • 25:35

    gripe lie cuz then why what's the payment? How pay me to say that. I would like to know

  • 25:41

    how y'all both came to understanding that what took place was

  • 25:46

    tultuous and consensual and not

  • 25:53

    that's like when tumultuous and consensual yet still warranted a payday.

  • 25:58

    That's where Well, no. The initial statement was grape. I don't want to keep saying the

  • 26:03

    word, but if you come out the gates with grape and land at tumultuous and

  • 26:09

    consensual, I would like to know how that occur. I'd like to speak to the mediator. This lady needs to be

  • 26:14

    arrested. Well, the mo the most generous read of her side. I'm with you. Let me let me be her attorney for a

  • 26:20

    minute or advocate for a minute. What she would say is I was harmed and the

  • 26:26

    only way for me to get justice in this case is for me to is to agree that there was some consensuality to the

  • 26:32

    relationship. It doesn't necessarily even mean that she cuz she's saying the relationship was consensual. Not every as not everything that happened between

  • 26:38

    them is consensual. The relationship was consensual. Okay. So I feel like there's some word smithing happening. So both people can

  • 26:43

    still stand on their square and say I didn't lie but allow them to get out of this. And from her side, it's like I I

  • 26:49

    hear what you're saying, which is if you were screaming the R word to the rafters, why are you not doing that now? And it might be, well, if this is the

  • 26:55

    only way I can get justice if I don't do this, I'm not going to get anything. What's the justice payment? Yeah. For a lot of people, civil

  • 27:02

    is is the recourse. You can't get a criminal. And that's where depending on your uh

  • 27:08

    your perception of that depends on where you stand. I'm not looking at the payment as justice. I look at the

  • 27:15

    payment as a shakeddown. And if there was a way for you to come to an understanding that this was tultuous,

  • 27:21

    then it means that that existed when you were saying that I was raping you. Mhm.

  • 27:27

    But she might she might still feel but she might still feel that way. She might still feel like she was assaulted. That's all I'm saying.

  • 27:32

    I don't want to assume that because she accepted the payment that she's lying. I'm not I'm only going by the words

  • 27:37

    tumultuous and consensual. Right. Yeah. But see, that's that's what I'm saying. Grape meant something. Grape meant

  • 27:44

    something different when I was growing up. But remember, she's saying the relationship is concerned. I don't No, she D they've posted text messages

  • 27:51

    with them talking about relations. No, no, I'm not I'm not disagreeing. I'm saying the public statement that just

  • 27:57

    came out. Marcus kind of swayed me. And there is such a thing as I got to write my own notes now. Uh

  • 28:05

    someone that you're with. Yeah, that's true. You could have a consensual relationship and still sexual assault that I think

  • 28:10

    that's what this statement is holding space for, for her to say. That's what you're saying. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. And I'm not saying it's true. I don't necessarily

  • 28:15

    believe or not. I have no idea who's telling the truth here. I ain't got no idea. It's too beautiful of a day outside for

  • 28:21

    me to reply to that with the reply that that calls for.

  • 28:27

    What part? Because that's the part where it's it's murky and uncomfortable and sensitive.

  • 28:32

    This is the thing. I know a person personally. Um Okay. No, I mean every poss

  • 28:40

    one of my exes. She had a boyfriend and he

  • 28:45

    Great. She was her boyfriend. It this was her man. And she told him one day they was arguing whatever whatever and

  • 28:50

    he wanted to have sex and she said no and he took it. Yeah. So agree with saying that you can be in

  • 28:56

    a consensual relationship with somebody you could have had sex with them 20 30 40 50 100 times and this one time or

  • 29:02

    these two times that you say no and they take it is still constituted as great.

  • 29:08

    Wait, does it sound like I'm opposed to that? No, no. Cuz I don't like No, no, no. No, this is how you say it now. I don't

  • 29:13

    think you're that guy. I think your initial statement, which makes sense, is if you said X, how's it now become Y? And I think what we're

  • 29:20

    saying is she's still saying I think rape should be treated like a crime at all times and not like the big joker in your back pocket used for

  • 29:26

    convenience. I agree. And that's where it gets tough. And it's it sounds [ __ ] up to say

  • 29:32

    that, but I mean I got I it is what's happening out here a little bit. No, that's not [ __ ] up to say. Yo,

  • 29:37

    fam. I think that it's scary that any nowadays and and this again

  • 29:44

    nowadays if you are a man that has any financial

  • 29:49

    ascension, you have to be worried about a girl that you might have had sex with 15 years ago coming back saying, "Yo, 15

  • 29:56

    years ago, this guy did something to me." Mhm. That is a horrible feeling in the

  • 30:01

    position to be in. I'm not Well, yeah. Unless No, unless you did it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm talking about I'm not and I'm not

  • 30:08

    disagreeing with the women that these things happen too. We all have empathy for them. But I'm saying as a man now

  • 30:14

    you are being looked at as a lick. It's a it's a come-up. I have more than empathy for the victims of of this stuff because that's the

  • 30:20

    scariest thing in the world to be thinking that you vibing with somebody who's bigger and stronger than you and

  • 30:26

    and them just you know that's that's horri that's horrifying. My heart goes out to them. So I have

  • 30:32

    more than empathy for them. That experience is so terrifying that what is

  • 30:38

    being turned. Sorry, this shouldn't even Yeah, you know, you know what today is.

  • 30:44

    You can't put that article out and not think your phone's going to go off all day. Know what today is.

  • 30:50

    No, you about to put that Johnny Kim just got paid. Just got paid

  • 30:56

    Friday night [ __ ] I'm glad hopefully everybody out there

  • 31:01

    got got resolved. Hopefully Shannon got Shannon's life is never the same no matter what happens.

  • 31:06

    Shannon's life is never the same no matter what. That's the crazy part. And she gonna get to go up back into obscurity and

  • 31:12

    anonymity back into this group. Rich. Yeah. Rich anonymity. Even if it was shorts compared to what

  • 31:18

    the 50 fam she got seven figures. I would imagine in her early 20s.

  • 31:23

    Yeah. Yeah. She might have got eight figures possibly. Yeah. It wouldn't shock me in your early 20s. So yeah, I nobody

  • 31:31

    knows me when I'm in St. Trope eating lobster salad, right? Shannon Sharp walks through

  • 31:38

    like that's [ __ ] up, bro. Like unless he did it. Unless he did it. That's all I'm saying. I'm just saying I don't know. No, no, you're right. The whole and the

  • 31:44

    whole story is [ __ ] But the last thing for me about this is there are some flags here. Let's let's take who

  • 31:50

    did it or not. Still nasty for [ __ ] with them. That's where I'm going. Yeah, but that still don't make him a crook. And that's where we and that's

  • 31:57

    where the water be but that's where the water becomes muddy because we identify flags of this older man messing with a

  • 32:03

    younger woman but we have to hold the younger woman accountable or the people accountable that's using this joker to

  • 32:09

    put the older man into a situation. So unless he did it. Unless he did. I I have to and to your point the flags

  • 32:16

    that we might look at as flags we all collectively will look at his flags. Yo, you're 50 something years old

  • 32:22

    and you dating a girl that's 19. to us. You're a piece of [ __ ] For sure. Don't make him a crook.

  • 32:28

    No, but I'm just saying. So the flag that we calling a flag, it ain't really a flag. No, it's a flag. No, it's still a flag. It's a flag for us.

  • 32:34

    It ain't a flag for the law. Right. I'm not saying a legal flag. I'm saying just talking to men about making good

  • 32:40

    choices. That's not one. That ain't the 20-year-old girl at the gym is the worst choice you can make.

  • 32:46

    That's all I'm saying. Forget I said take crime off the table for me. Just don't do it. Your life will never be better from now.

  • 32:51

    Discernment. That is Can I ask you a question? Why Why are we so loud when it comes to our black

  • 32:56

    brothers doing this, but when the white people do it, we're not as loud? [ __ ] them. Cuz we not ask I know, I hear you, but I want to

  • 33:02

    ask Mark this question because for everybody, it's discussing across the board. A lot of people get praised

  • 33:08

    for a lot of A-list celebrities get praised for having the young hot chick.

  • 33:14

    Oh, you got you got they So why are we so loud when it comes to our black brother that's in the media space? I'm only laughing cuz we said we weren't

  • 33:20

    starting heavy. I know. I just want some I just want to get some old fan jokes off. I didn't know he was

  • 33:25

    going to go to this room. I'm not stepping on no talks today. I'm You just stepped on it, [ __ ] No, no, I did it.

  • 33:31

    I I don't want to step on We should start finding him or something. Yo, that's what we need to do. I'll be talking about that 20 million.

  • 33:37

    Yeah, that's what I'm saying, man. That [ __ ] hurt me. Yeah, don't let landed on you. Yo, man. You don't know how I feel about

  • 33:43

    that, man. I'll never be the same. Yeah, me neither. Um, no. Well, one, I I think people do make fun of the DiCaprios and come after

  • 33:49

    them in a certain way. Uh, and we do think it's girls. We had a whole conversation up here about Bill Bich.

  • 33:55

    Yeah. So, so I don't I think it's a narrative to say that we don't do that. I think we actually do do that. When I say we, I'm talking about the

  • 34:02

    broader world. The broader world. That's what I'm talking about. Not us particularly because I mean it's a white supremacist world.

  • 34:07

    Got it. Yeah. But but I can't even say we just heard what's his name on the ESPN making jokes about dating a 20-year-old Shane Shane Gills

  • 34:14

    on the on the SPS making jokes about and it's to me it's all gross and we should all hold people accountable for

  • 34:19

    that. Um, I don't care so much about white people in terms of culturally like I'm worried about us. So that's that's

  • 34:26

    why I focus on us. I don't like when we justify, yo, but the whites do it. [ __ ] them. Exactly. Like my standard or my moral compass is

  • 34:32

    not the bar ain't what white people do. My reference point ain't what white people do. Just because white people doing it,

  • 34:39

    that don't mean it's okay if we do it. If we think it's [ __ ] [ __ ] it's [ __ ] [ __ ] if they do it. Or if you don't watch a lot of white media,

  • 34:45

    you might not be aware. You probably watch a lot more black media than you watch when we critique ours. It's like kicking their backs in.

  • 34:50

    That might be true, too. Maybe they need their backs kicked in sometime. Okay. But but um ESPN does Shannon Sharp. We going to see

  • 34:56

    him on NFL Sunday this fall. Uh they let the heat he pass off for a

  • 35:03

    couple months cuz that might have been what ESPN that might have been their stipulation. Yeah, but football start in a month.

  • 35:08

    Yeah. Mhm. Not even. I mean his press release said back that announcement probably was for

  • 35:15

    football starting in a month. I'm sure. Yeah. That's what it feel like. like a football announcement cuz when he first took time off from ESPN, he said I'll be

  • 35:21

    back for a football season. Oh yeah, he'll be back. Yo, bro, think even I got him coming back. I'm totally

  • 35:27

    switching beginning of the season. I didn't see it before, but I also didn't factor in the state of ESPN,

  • 35:36

    which is why he will be back. I think if Disney was was big dick Disney like

  • 35:41

    we're used to them being, then they tell him to [ __ ] off. But that's not gonna happen. And they gave Pat McAfee the

  • 35:46

    Sports Center block and let him curse and let him curse out Stephen A and let him they let him do whatever he want up

  • 35:53

    there because there's a new way to do things. So and in that new way Shannon's pretty

  • 35:59

    important. He he valuable. Shannon Sharp is pretty important in that new way of doing things. If you going to crush him, which I'm sure there

  • 36:05

    was a seuite meeting about, then who's his replacement, right? Y'all got to go build one. And it ain't

  • 36:12

    another one. No, it ain't another Shannon. It ain't another one. It ain't another Shannon. But there there are talks that's saying that um

  • 36:18

    TV Shannon they're basically saying it's

  • 36:24

    it's not me. They saying he a B. He not a A. He needs the A to be really the Shannon that we want to see.

  • 36:30

    Yeah. Who the hell said that. Who said that? This man at the network. Not me. Bro, if you read any of the

  • 36:36

    stuff, that's what they're saying. I love that Shannon is a bee. That's what they're saying. Where do they get that from?

  • 36:41

    I think that's true. He is a bee. Like historically, he's better be outside. And he he shines as a bee.

  • 36:47

    Yeah, he shines as a bee. I don't think that's his comedic his comedic his comedic presence as a be. It's not a disc.

  • 36:53

    It's not a disc. It's not a disc. We take the wrong things as this. Shannon could be funny as a bee.

  • 36:59

    Yeah. I don't want him driving a conversation. And that's where he's immensely dope. When he can be funny, when he can bring

  • 37:04

    out personality and all other stuff. We've also just never seen him really be the Aside of like I said, the lady. He's an A on his show. Yeah,

  • 37:10

    he's a A on anything that he does away from the network. I think that's his point. TV Shannon

  • 37:15

    ain't a but then we can't call him a B Mike or you just say then we can't call him a B Mike because

  • 37:21

    anybody is a B Mike next to Skip Bis who has the deal at ESPN

  • 37:27

    and FS1. That's true. He's not bringing in nobody to be a good and he was a A enough next to Skip.

  • 37:34

    They not putting him with just a mics. They putting him next to dynamic people that run [ __ ] Stephen A. So the

  • 37:40

    effect that he's having is a Mike. Effect the revenue he brings in the advertisers, all that [ __ ] is a mic. So

  • 37:46

    I'm not I cannot go to sleep and call him a B mic. Well, he should just wait for the A mic

  • 37:52

    to go on vacation and then just take that [ __ ] away. Well, the rumor was that ESPN was clearing out that whole

  • 37:58

    slot and all of that [ __ ] for Shannon to be the AI and now that that just bought them

  • 38:05

    leverage. All the [ __ ] bought them leverage. Let's say his deal for 100 million might not have been 100. Let's say it was 75.

  • 38:10

    Oh yeah. Now you get him on a cheap. Now you get him for 35. Now you get him on a cheap. Right. Now you get him for 35. I think that is bull.

  • 38:16

    That's nasty. That's crazy. [ __ ] That's crazy. Unless he catching

  • 38:22

    which part? Catch catching the talented A Mike and the bad times and bringing him in and making him this B Mike.

  • 38:28

    I think this is this situation is really [ __ ] up. I know you telling a joke. This situation I think is really [ __ ]

  • 38:34

    up. Me too. It's real [ __ ] up. It take a lot of time. I don't think so.

  • 38:43

    I'm strugg right. That's that. Let's take that off

  • 38:49

    the table though. Right. If you take that off the table. If you take that off the table. He just did some made some dumbass choices repeatedly. We've all made dumbass

  • 38:56

    choices in our life. They shouldn't be $50 million choices. Well, if if I'm paying you $100 million, I would hope that you make better

  • 39:02

    choices cuz he didn't get paid $100 million. Disney. I mean, part of it is like this hurts this. This came out once it was rumored that

  • 39:08

    he was going to get $100 million. Oh, y'all think it's the Oh, you think it like that? The next month.

  • 39:13

    No, no. I'm saying you think that was like a deliberate like the next month. Oh, you getting what?

  • 39:19

    Buzz buzzing. He buzzing. I got you, fam. Like, man, please. I feel you. I

  • 39:26

    don't know. It's Yo, if he didn't do it, anytime I see something, bro, my question is always, why is it happening right now? Why am I

  • 39:32

    getting this information right now? That's it. So when that when when Shorty dropped the the lawsuit and everything.

  • 39:38

    Okay. Why write this? I hear what you saying. I I thought you were saying something even more dev. I thought you saying the network was in on it.

  • 39:43

    No. No. I'm not saying I'm not saying that. It wouldn't shock me, but I'm not

  • 39:48

    saying that. But I just Why right now? Whether somebody put her up to it, whether it was her and her own brain

  • 39:54

    doing it, whatever. I find it ironic that soon as the the

  • 39:59

    news hit, yo, he's looking at a $100 million deal. Now this happens. Now you don't get the $und00 million deal.

  • 40:04

    I don't think it's that deep of a conspiracy. If I see someone that's on a massive ascension and about to go to the

  • 40:10

    [ __ ] stratosphere and I have a a potentially reason to sue,

  • 40:15

    right? I'm going to [ __ ] sue right now. It makes sense. Yeah, Mark. The reason I'm not looking at it

  • 40:20

    like he did something, and I'll say this in closing, is because no other entity out there is looking at it like he did

  • 40:27

    something. And yes, he got uh she got some civil money, but as we've just seen, the state could watch this. The

  • 40:35

    the feds could watch this. If we feel like you broke a law, we are going to come for criminal charges against you.

  • 40:41

    None of that's happening. She just got paid. That's tough on sexual assault, though. You know what I'm saying? It's like one

  • 40:47

    word against the other. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's hard to We just We just saw it. All they need is

  • 40:53

    All they need is a witness. Yeah, but that's They didn't win. They about to say they got their ass kicked. The only thing they got was the

  • 40:58

    prostitution part. And that's with a whole investigation. That's with a whole lot of investigation. But in this case,

  • 41:05

    you talking about just a one-on-one act. I hear what you're saying. You mean I'm It's hard to prove sexual assault in general. I got you.

  • 41:10

    You know what I mean? Again, and I'm not I'm not saying she I don't Again, I have no idea who's telling the truth here. I just know that

  • 41:16

    if I work for Disney and I know that that particular brand has an investment

  • 41:22

    in the in the host being spotless, it's I know going in that even [ __ ] a

  • 41:27

    20-year-old Only Fans model is bad for business as opposed. That's all I'm saying as in terms of

  • 41:33

    choices. I agree with you%. But when he was [ __ ] shorty,

  • 41:38

    that was 3 years before he became the man that we see that's eligible for $100 million deal.

  • 41:44

    He met him when she was 19. He was talking as recently as like last January. What? It was real recent. He was [ __ ] her for like 2 or 3

  • 41:49

    years. And he wasn't nobody by the way, 3 years ago, right? But he wasn't a $100 million man. I still think that you need to be

  • 41:56

    No, he should definitely have practiced a certain amount of different level of discernment as a $50 million man as a $20 million

  • 42:01

    manion. He made 500 grand. He needs to have more discipline. And I'm down to have a

  • 42:08

    conversation about his decision-m and discernment or lack thereof. Just not in

  • 42:13

    this in this situation. I'm with Mark. If he did that, this punishment is not enough. True.

  • 42:18

    And if he didn't do it, boy, this is twisted. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a good summation.

  • 42:24

    Summation. Yeah, that's what I got for y'all. Yeah. On that. In brighter news, music. We got some new

  • 42:30

    music. New music, man. We got a Monday drop. I love the Monday drop. I love the non

  • 42:35

    Friday. I love the non-midnight. I love everything different from the drops that we usually get. Right. Me, too. Midnight is a brutal

  • 42:41

    time to [ __ ] stay up and listen to music on a school night. Yeah, especially when y'all not making

  • 42:47

    memorable music. That part, too. What? Saturday. Saturday. I forgot y'all dropped. Forcing myself to get through this [ __ ]

  • 42:54

    Stay up till 12:30 to [ __ ] get some mid and then don't let it be one of those, oh, we [ __ ] we [ __ ] up. It ain't

  • 42:59

    dropped yet. It'll Oh, yeah. No, no. I stop waiting up for them. If it's not there at 12:05, it's a

  • 43:05

    wrap. See you in the morning. I want to shout out even how he announced that [ __ ] with a vital

  • 43:11

    I think my sister was at that show. He took on Tyler the Creator. Yeah. Tyler the Creator brand new album. He

  • 43:18

    just did he just did however many nights in New York City sold out. My little sister went. Everybody had a

  • 43:25

    blast. And uh my niece went to uh Philly. Said it was

  • 43:30

    an amazing show. I can't wait to go there. Can't wait. We in there. Yeah, we in there. So, but just to announce a

  • 43:36

    fulllength project in the middle of your four nights sold out in New York City

  • 43:44

    with three days 3 days notice. Two days notice like that was ridiculous.

  • 43:52

    Is it a video? What's he Nobody Well, a handful of people. We ain't think a new album is dropping in the middle of the

  • 43:58

    tour. Like, all right, you dropping a video for your song or you dropping, you know, maybe a deluxe or something. a brand new

  • 44:04

    album while you're already touring your last album. I do want to mention I don't know that this is I don't know if it feels or if

  • 44:09

    he considers this to be an album in the same way he's considered his last several. It's very short. It's 30

  • 44:16

    minutes I think. Yeah. 29. Yeah. It felt a little mixtape to me. That's that's all I'm saying. What's the difference that much?

  • 44:22

    That's an album. Yeah. Alb, man. Yeah. He ain't he ain't about to call it a mixtape. Well, even if he did on the

  • 44:28

    back end, it ain't ain't Yeah. It ain't going to sell the same, right? Yeah. Not at all. Uh

  • 44:33

    I didn't get a chance to listen to it yet cuz I was tired of it. How How good is it? Um it's I like it. First off, I You're

  • 44:39

    either going to love or hate this album. I I I went right into it. All right. First off, let's let's rewind a little

  • 44:45

    bit. A fake track list started going around. Lot of hip-hop features on there. Kendrick Clips, you know, stuff

  • 44:52

    like and he addressed that. Hey, this is fake. Y'all can stop. Another tweet goes out and I see all

  • 45:00

    that talk about a concept album. It's this ain't that either. Y'all can stop.

  • 45:05

    So that I found weird cuz if you're doing a surprise drop or surprise announcement, it's like so I'm like,

  • 45:11

    "Okay, he's gearing up for something different and he's trying to prep people for it. Hey, don't expect whatever you're expecting." So I kind of in my

  • 45:18

    head was like, "Okay, he's going left field a little bit." Yeah. This is a um

  • 45:23

    it's a feature to me. You know what it reminded me of? It goes back to that vibe to me. You know what it reminded me of? When

  • 45:29

    Snoop made Sexual Seduction, like the the the beat how you hear him

  • 45:35

    see over It's not usually what you used to, but it still worked. Yeah, that's how I feel about this album.

  • 45:41

    Interesting. Different, of course. Not the same. This just reminded me of earlier Tyler where it was a little more chaotic. At

  • 45:47

    least the first half is a little more chaotic and less melodic as opposed to the last few albums. a little more edgy,

  • 45:56

    still very hip-hop, like he's rapping. It's got like a 80s kind of It actually somewhere it felt to me somewhere

  • 46:01

    between 80s like run um Run DMC 80s hip-hop like Def Jam hip-hop and like

  • 46:07

    2000s hip-hop. See, I heard I heard run like you said

  • 46:13

    early me pump. Yeah, we got some this what I got. Hey

  • 46:21

    Hey, I could just hear a Tyler verse over this and be fine. Let me play some other

  • 46:27

    Hey, play some other [ __ ] that this Tyler remind me of. Uh, this Tyler [ __ ]

  • 46:32

    sound like the greatest gay night in the history of gay nights. Hold up. This

  • 46:38

    [ __ ] sound like Where my [ __ ] at? Hold up. Hold up, man. CeCe. Hey.

  • 46:45

    This is the night. Nah, that's what it sound like. Nah, I didn't get that. Yeah. All right.

  • 46:51

    This is the night. No. Right after this, I got you. I'mma play some Tyler [ __ ]

  • 46:57

    Flip. You can't [ __ ] with me on the white box, boy. This is the night. That's not the song.

  • 47:03

    You're too young. Uh-oh. You too young to know me, [ __ ] I don't know the name of it. I just know

  • 47:08

    the words. Don't worry. The hook coming on for you. Dancing.

  • 47:17

    You don't know about this, [ __ ] Get the [ __ ] out of here, [ __ ] Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

  • 47:23

    I know this [ __ ] [ __ ] Nah, you're too young for this. Let's go, Tyler. Talk to him.

  • 47:28

    No, I ain't get this. I didn't get that. I see how you could cuz I mean, it's still that same

  • 47:34

    Tyler, too. It's It's the 80s synthesized drums and synthesizers, which is the same thing.

  • 47:41

    Definitely making me not want to listen to this [ __ ] No, this [ __ ] making me Let's go. [Music]

  • 47:48

    [ __ ] hey, you playing. Hey,

  • 47:54

    let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Is Hey, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

  • 48:00

    Sunday. We love it. Hey, let's go. Let's I like that song. I do

  • 48:08

    like that song. I like a lot of [ __ ] on his head. I like I like that song. Uh let's see. More Tyler. More Tyler for your head

  • 48:14

    tops. Let's see here. Tyler, where's that song? She sound like

  • 48:20

    Appalonia 6, [ __ ] It's like when the gay [ __ ] in the club try to beef with you, [ __ ] You got

  • 48:27

    Hey, watching the karate karate.

  • 48:36

    He in the back, [ __ ] You can't say that as a guy that play

  • 48:43

    you, [ __ ] the [ __ ] you up. Yo, yo, you know, I just learned today that brick is not a word.

  • 48:49

    It is in the hood. Everybody know what I mean. They didn't put it in the dictionary

  • 48:54

    like the other shits. Oh, it's in the urban. No, brick is not a real word. And I did not know that until I went and tried to

  • 49:00

    type it today after the Times article. Get rid of [ __ ] Yo, you know how I know

  • 49:06

    I'm getting old. Spell check. Don't even understand what I'm trying to write.

  • 49:12

    Oh, me either. Yeah, that's my that's my ops. They don't even get what I'm They don't help me no more.

  • 49:18

    They be like, "Huh?" That [ __ ] really ain't a [ __ ] No, it ain't a word. It's a slang term. It's not a word.

  • 49:24

    Y'all really thought Yo, man, we in the urban dictionary. It's America.

  • 49:30

    We think the hood is bigger than what it is. Apparently, memorphically chiseled,

  • 49:35

    buff, muscular, diesel built, [ __ ] Mamorphically chiseled. That's You shouldn't say.

  • 49:40

    You wouldn't be so smart neither. Frasier had his education fund. Oh [ __ ]

  • 49:47

    That's the real scam of the family. Holy [ __ ] [ __ ]

  • 49:53

    [Laughter] That's funny, son. Oh my god. Anyway.

  • 50:00

    Oh, you acting like Mel. Oh [ __ ] Right after the first joke.

  • 50:05

    Yeah. Brother's in surgery and his wife just called. Oh [ __ ] Yeah. Mark, you look too mature for

  • 50:11

    this. Oh my god. Just take your call, man. Any uh

  • 50:16

    what do you think overall though about the album? Uh I didn't I didn't uh love it like I've loved the last five or so Tyler

  • 50:22

    projects, but I still enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. I Yeah, I'm with you. It's

  • 50:28

    not the last I would say what Eigore. We listened to Chromicopia at the lake.

  • 50:34

    My niece was playing it probably cuz she was hyped to see this. That was [ __ ] incredible. I went back to that couple weeks ago

  • 50:39

    getting ready for the tour. So, I just been listening to a bunch of Tyler. Yeah. Yeah. That album was incredible. I do [ __ ] with this album though. Me,

  • 50:46

    too. I I really I just got to figure out where he wanted me to [ __ ] with this at,

  • 50:51

    right? I put it on my I put it on in the gym first, which was a mistake. Yeah, that No, this is not I could have [ __ ] with it in the gym

  • 50:57

    today. That NWA [ __ ] I just heard you could. No, no, that [ __ ] is nice and uptempo.

  • 51:02

    You know what I mean? No, that's what I thought. 100 miles and run. You good? I put that [ __ ] on in the gym and it was

  • 51:07

    for me it wasn't helping cuz you kept thinking about some gay [ __ ] You couldn't listen to the club

  • 51:14

    while you think about some gay jokes doing the cleaning jerk.

  • 51:21

    Yo, here we go. The snatch and with the [ __ ] tight ass.

  • 51:26

    I was about to say shorts. Halo workout shorts. They not even showing your dick print.

  • 51:31

    They showing your balls. So now it just look like you in the gym with a camel. A dude camel. Yeah. Showing your balls. So

  • 51:39

    you started writing the gay jokes in your head and then you looked in the mirror and were like, "Oh [ __ ] I cut this off." I learned that [ __ ]

  • 51:44

    Maybe I relate. Let me let me put it Let me put a child in you. Then I went to turn it on. Then I went

  • 51:50

    to turn it on like when I was starting my day getting in the shower and [ __ ] I was like, "Nah, this is way too not

  • 51:57

    going to work. I just got to figure out." He wanted me to hear that [ __ ] at the rave or some [ __ ] at the sound factory or he I gotta

  • 52:05

    figure out where he wanted me to get into this bad on the drive. Yeah, put it on the drive. It was all right. Highway music, bro.

  • 52:10

    Oh, see I don't drive. All right. Y'all are driving. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You should start driving. Okay.

  • 52:17

    Got a lot of Got a lot of nice toys out there. You should drive. You know, drive us crazy. No, I can't afford nice toys.

  • 52:23

    We we we saw you came here and set all the keys on the table. Colorful. You got some new keys.

  • 52:30

    You said all the keys. Yeah, I heard you got new keys. I don't have new keys. And you put the keys right there, too. Remember, separated them too.

  • 52:36

    It's like the whole map of Europe. [ __ ] Color coordinated.

  • 52:42

    Couple of things, man. You know. Yo, just throw me that orange. You see, he tried to make people listen.

  • 52:48

    Let me just say this. He tries to make this face when like to try to not

  • 52:53

    encourage me to keep going in. But today, today for the first time, you may see a lot of cuts. You may see me come

  • 53:00

    outside, go outside, come back in with a different expression. Today is the day that we push the line today.

  • 53:06

    He does this thing where he look at me and like where he turned his head like, "Nigga, shut up." Nah, not today.

  • 53:12

    You want it? Not today at all. You want it flip? Kind of. Kind of. Just wanted to support my man. That's all.

  • 53:18

    And I need that support. So, thank you. You're welcome. Thank you for that. I appreciate that. I need you to be a little more supportive, a little more jolly. Cuz when you do

  • 53:24

    that, it look like, you know, pops call. Hey yo, Flip doing that [ __ ] again. I don't want no 20 million reasons to be

  • 53:30

    jolly. Wow. No, it's pretty good. Couple more. Like way more. Couple way

  • 53:36

    more, [ __ ] You probably know. He's going to say that no matter what. Come. That's not true. He's going to say no.

  • 53:41

    That's not true. You think he knows some [ __ ] He do know you. Okay. He know you.

  • 53:48

    Uh, you know what? It's funny real quick. It's funny watching everybody else react to you now though.

  • 53:54

    Yeah, you might get some IOU now if that was your thing that you wanted. Not looking for that. I love my baby.

  • 54:00

    No, I ain't talking about I love my baby. I'm talking about your peers. And I believe in marriage. That's funny now.

  • 54:06

    Good answer. He really believes in marriage. Hey, Mark. Before next April 15th, huh?

  • 54:13

    Oh, no. No doubt about it. Hey, I'm going tell you who going to be married before April 15th.

  • 54:20

    grow up the more he believe in marriage. No, I believe in marriage. It's very smart.

  • 54:26

    Very smart. What was we talking about? Tyler [ __ ] out of here.

  • 54:32

    Skin looking good. Thank you. Yeah, Tyler. Well, la last week also Rayquin's album came out. Um,

  • 54:38

    no clothes. Yeah. Which was is a solid album. I enjoyed it. You know, I heard some extreme takes on

  • 54:43

    the album like this is the greatest album ever and this is the worst album ever. Neither is true. It's an I think it's a a slightly above average album

  • 54:50

    and is really enjoyable. And I also like the fact that it's it's licensed. It's it's a deal with Mass Appeal Records

  • 54:55

    through uh his company. Mass Appeal's putting out a whole string of uh albums over the next couple of years with a lot

  • 55:01

    of the legends. Slick Rick is has a new one out. Premier Nas got one coming out. So just keep eye out on these new

  • 55:07

    records because there's a lot of OG rappers that's putting out good music projects out. I just want to shout them out too.

  • 55:12

    That's a fact. Yeah. some point I'd like to discuss how the older rappers seem to be kicking all the younger rappers rappers' ass. And I

  • 55:21

    think this might be the first time in hip-hop history where that's a fact. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. I listen to

  • 55:26

    rapping. I listen to a couple new albums from people who I like like younger maybe 20s early 30s rappers on the way.

  • 55:33

    I had 10 hours of road time this weekend and then I put on Rayquan which is a good album. It's not like some

  • 55:39

    spectacular. It's solid. Yeah. But it was immediately apparent of like good rapping versus what today's

  • 55:45

    version of good rapping is. Bro, that clips album good rapping might have really no better than good.

  • 55:50

    It's better than good, bro. It might have really been a pivot that hip-hop needs. I think

  • 55:55

    that [ __ ] was a real cultural moment. I ain't going to hold you. Yes. You disagree? I think it was a cultural moment. I

  • 56:01

    don't think it's going to pivot anything. Yeah. I think I I wish it would, but I don't have faith in that happening.

  • 56:06

    Yeah. I I don't not at all. We'll see. I think the pivot started even before that. I think they might be the climax of it,

  • 56:13

    but you are going to have to figure out a way to make your food last.

  • 56:19

    Yeah. And it's always good to be able to lean on cultural equity and not just that.

  • 56:26

    I don't want to say any names and insult people, but just that I don't even think we have to speak in

  • 56:31

    cult. I think that like just being good at what you do should we live in a

  • 56:37

    meritocracy unfortunately and if you want to have a long career in music or in media or in performing or anything

  • 56:43

    like hone on your craft and get really [ __ ] good at it man look as much as I love don't rely on tricks go ahead cut you off I'm sorry as much as I love this

  • 56:49

    clips album you know push is my guy nothing against them this album was a

  • 56:55

    masterclass in marketing how to how to properly roll out and market your album because there's been

  • 57:01

    people that's been rapping at good quality putting out good music. They just ain't been heard. I agree with that. This is independent everybody.

  • 57:07

    So they went Hold on. So they went and and did their thing and got the album in front of the people they needed to get

  • 57:12

    the album in front of. They did the work. They did. That's what I've been preaching up here for. No, they did.

  • 57:17

    Correct. But but what I'm saying is there are albums that are as good or better than this album that did not do

  • 57:23

    the work because people didn't hear them. But but it's but it's a combination two because if they did all

  • 57:29

    of the work, if they went and sat in front of all of the platforms and they did all that [ __ ] and the product wasn't good,

  • 57:34

    that shit's going to land on deaf ears. I don't give a [ __ ] how many couches you sit on, how many desks you go talk to in

  • 57:39

    front of the people. If the quality of the album was trash, that [ __ ] ain't going to hit like it hit. Well, that's what I wanted to add to your point uh

  • 57:46

    Freeze because a lot of people has tal have talked about the master class of a rollout it's it's been and how to

  • 57:52

    market, but it's also been a master class and how not to market, right? Like they were really intentional

  • 57:59

    with where they sat, why they sat there, who that audience was, and who was

  • 58:04

    getting this message. I'm I know the people they skipped and you could clearly see why they are

  • 58:10

    skipping these places versus the normal roll out of a publicist trying to get their act in

  • 58:16

    front of many any eye all the eyes in the world. Back in my day they was talking about some when Serita was

  • 58:23

    bringing me to some websites I didn't want to talk to. She would be like oh they get this amount of clicks and this amount of impressions and this amount.

  • 58:29

    We have to sit there like why why who are these people? Who is this audience? Who am I even talking to? So they were

  • 58:35

    just extra intentional, but they could do that as independent. But even in the interviews, bro,

  • 58:42

    them [ __ ] have a way of And I'm not going to keep calling them independent either. They likable, B. Even when you go sit down like they are

  • 58:49

    performing. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, no. They are performing. They are likable. The way they speak to people,

  • 58:54

    all of that stuff. They just likable men. And so I think that plays a part into people wanting to hear their music,

  • 59:00

    too. How are they independent? They're independent with the distribution, which now looks not independent.

  • 59:07

    How are they independent with the distribution? You You own all your [ __ ] You sign a distribution deal. That still keeps you

  • 59:13

    indie. Yeah, you're still technically independent. Okay. Y'all doing that Chance the Rapper [ __ ] Um, y'all know Rock Nation now is acting as

  • 59:20

    a one-stop shop after you purchased the the every arm that they need to act that

  • 59:26

    way. Well, to be clear, most of the big distributors are though. So, I understand what you're saying. are what?

  • 59:32

    Most of like the Empires and they've been moving like major labels for a long decade.

  • 59:38

    So you view and I don't want to derail you. Y'all view what Empire is doing the

  • 59:44

    same as what Rock Nation? It's similar. It's very similar. It's very similar. Maybe different relationships, but very similar.

  • 59:49

    It's different in that Rock Nation has um and that's why vertical or whatever integration they have management. They

  • 59:55

    have live uh venues. It's different for sure. And that don't sound like independent to

  • 1:00:02

    me, but I get what you're saying. Apples and Apples and Oranges. They amazing album. Do they own this [ __ ] Did they Did they

  • 1:00:07

    pay for the uh creation of it? Well, I don't know. The clips is you're saying

  • 1:00:13

    Yeah. Yeah. Which I was under the impression they did. Maybe I'm wrong, but if they did those things, then I think that that's

  • 1:00:18

    Or if they didn't, I don't think they able to walk away from Death Jam with that album, right?

  • 1:00:23

    Like you you leave, okay, cool, but this is ours, right? and you go and re start from

  • 1:00:29

    scratch and build whatever over there. All right, maybe I'm a hater. I'm not calling clips independent cuz when we

  • 1:00:34

    sat there and said, "Hey, how did when Hey, how did you get away from Death Jam in that moment?" They looked at Stephen

  • 1:00:41

    Victor over here who has all the clout and cache and relationship strength that

  • 1:00:47

    one would need. And if he needed to just write a quick $6 million check, if he did that,

  • 1:00:52

    then he could do that. While I independent while I agree with you and I'm with you, I also don't like taking

  • 1:01:00

    away from independence because they did a really [ __ ] good job. Yeah, that's what that's you know what I mean? Like

  • 1:01:06

    I think we should normalize independence looking and operating really [ __ ] well and functional

  • 1:01:12

    people around me as opposed to finding a loophole like oh it's not quite independent because Jay-Z is there and it's like I mean is it or

  • 1:01:18

    is it not? Like just because they did a good job doesn't make it not independent. That's a good point. Mhm. That's a good point.

  • 1:01:25

    I don't have anything for No, that's a good point. Yeah, that was a good point. And I don't want to sound like I'm shooting on cliffs because I just love

  • 1:01:32

    I love what they're doing. Independent, not independent. It's great. And I hope the trend continues of I think.

  • 1:01:37

    But that freedom, what I was speaking to more so is that freedom to be able to, yo, we going here, here, here. Comes

  • 1:01:43

    from being independent. Got it. That's true, too. Otherwise, you get what what's happening to you. Hey, go sit over here. I don't

  • 1:01:50

    want to go sit there. Well, go sit over there. We have a relationship with them. Uh uh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can't say they're not

  • 1:01:55

    independent because they have Steven, Victor, and Forel and Jay-Z. And yeah, that's they just have a set up for

  • 1:02:01

    independent. They just did a good job. They did a good job. It's just a good time to be independent. Yeah, you're right. It sure is a good

  • 1:02:06

    time. Ain't a good time to be independent. I'm just saying, you know, you independent. You missed the super chat.

  • 1:02:12

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  • 1:04:29

    game. All right. Uh, back to Tyler. I'm not sure if we was finished with him. Yeah,

  • 1:04:34

    I don't know if we were. A lot of people are saying that they hate it. I I I don't think this is a middle

  • 1:04:40

    ground album. Like either like I said in at the start, either you're going to really like it or

  • 1:04:46

    you're going to absolutely hate it. And it really just depends on when you got introduced to Tyler's music. Yeah. Agree. Like if you're a new Tyler fan and you

  • 1:04:52

    like that sound that he's been on and then you hear this and like what the [ __ ] is this? I absolutely hate it. Right.

  • 1:04:58

    So yeah, I think my little sister who I'm learning is a huge Tyler fan is going to love this project. I think this project

  • 1:05:04

    does a good job of uh like like you said, freeze. When did you meet this guy? Like his fan base is kind of all

  • 1:05:13

    over the place. It This album made me go back to Vince Staples. Okay. album.

  • 1:05:18

    There's one more album this album made me go back to. [ __ ] let me try to find it. But yeah, he was

  • 1:05:24

    in um Listen, he was in the back. Yeah, I different. I like different

  • 1:05:29

    [ __ ] I like when artists try to be different, even if it don't all the way hit with me. Again, some of that first half of this project was like maybe too

  • 1:05:37

    rich for my taste. Yeah. Uh but the second half, I like some of that [ __ ] I do. Shout out to Tyler. Uh

  • 1:05:43

    shout out to the Tyler fan base. Uh Tyler's come a long way from the him and Khaled feud, which for me with every

  • 1:05:50

    passing day becomes the junior the junior whopper version of 50 and Kanye.

  • 1:05:55

    Yeah. Like Khaled was hating. Khaled was they. Yeah, Khaled was they.

  • 1:06:01

    He was in in that. But to look at where Tyler comes from from that is like he's got to feel like

  • 1:06:07

    like the clips feel like y'all throwing my name in with some of these pop acts and some of these people with all the backing in the world is like that's a

  • 1:06:13

    compliment within itself. Mhm. What's the projection of his album? Uh Tyler's going to do numbers. I don't

  • 1:06:19

    know. I I would guess 150 plus

  • 1:06:24

    for sure. Yeah. Short week. Don't Don't I don't care. 150 on the low end. 150 is impressive.

  • 1:06:31

    About say 200 150 on the low end, but it's a short week. What did you say? What is a short week?

  • 1:06:37

    No, I said this is a short week. So, I think that I think the the real tell would be if it's that the second week are is going to stay steady. They going

  • 1:06:43

    to have two amazing strong weeks. Anybody know the projections for the clips? Second week. No idea yet.

  • 1:06:50

    Well, the second week should be out on the clips. Yeah, it should. Yeah, second week should be out on Eclipse.

  • 1:06:56

    Absolutely. I ain't that bad with time. I know they had six records on the Billboard 200. Oh, Chromopia did 299.

  • 1:07:02

    That's what I'm saying. So, yeah, this is 150 is the low end of this. Oh, it might do. It might do something. Yeah, my bad.

  • 1:07:09

    My bad, Tyler. The album before that did did crazy numbers. My bad, Tyler. Yeah, I think you probably cracked two something. God

  • 1:07:16

    damn. Don't let him have bundles. Word them [ __ ] have that vinyl look fire. Yeah,

  • 1:07:22

    the clear vinyl. And I like the imagery with the with the chain. And I I like

  • 1:07:27

    it. The video is fire, too. I'm still mad that I was working when when Tyler did that show over there that

  • 1:07:32

    I wanted to go to. Oh yeah. Yeah. I just had a tough week. And I'm mad cuz Yachty Yachty invited me

  • 1:07:39

    to that [ __ ] show months ago. You got to roll with the Sunday, man. The one the other day. I'm not here Sunday.

  • 1:07:44

    Oh [ __ ] No, it's I'm taking my family to Tur. Yeah, I'm not here.

  • 1:07:50

    Rich [ __ ] man. I'll get on FaceTime with you. I wouldn't know. Only Turks I see with your family.

  • 1:07:56

    Everybody here is taking a trip with their family but me. No, Turks is the part that's the rich part. Yeah, Turks.

  • 1:08:02

    I wouldn't know nothing about that. I didn't even know what it was. You took a trip. I had to Google the [ __ ] up issue. We going to let the Times article change

  • 1:08:08

    how you have taken mad trips to Portugal. All white do yacht can

  • 1:08:16

    ma how you say it. I don't know how to say this [ __ ] You was don't come in. We saw the [ __ ] with the water underneath the whole We saw

  • 1:08:22

    all that. You showed us, flip, you definitely been to Jones Beach with your family. Oh [ __ ] You've been to [ __ ] What's that beach

  • 1:08:28

    in? What's that beach in Long Island? Ron Playland I been to Coney Island. You

  • 1:08:34

    been to Island with your family. My family, right? Crack that [ __ ] flip. Ice been to Atlantic City. Where where I

  • 1:08:40

    been? Pennsylvania. You [ __ ] have been on trips with your family. This is my first time, [ __ ] I ain't take my family. Yo, watch

  • 1:08:47

    your [ __ ] mouth. Look, that's what he took from that. I ain't take my family. I take my family island. Yo, since my two little brothers have

  • 1:08:53

    been out the house, my dad and his wife have been in Atlantic City every little chance. They get like birds.

  • 1:08:59

    They did right now. I believe you. You call me. Where your brothers at? They at school already doing

  • 1:09:04

    well. They doing summer three weeks where you learn the school. Yeah.

  • 1:09:09

    I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, they out of there. So my dad is in Atlantic City.

  • 1:09:15

    He is a [ __ ] th yo. His wife keep grabbing the phone talking about Joy's on a boardwalk looking at ass.

  • 1:09:24

    Hey, his age. That's what you're supposed to do. Sorry, Jackie. Facts. Love you.

  • 1:09:29

    His age. My mom's so cute. She called me the other day. So, I showed your dad and Jackie how to hear the podcast over the

  • 1:09:36

    phone. I was like, "Well, how would they listening to it?" She's like, "I don't

  • 1:09:42

    know. I didn't ask." Shout out to your mom. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my parents are sick. Anyway,

  • 1:09:48

    um Tyler, congrats. Congrats, man. You in your bag, gay [ __ ] Congrats.

  • 1:09:56

    Do we think anything stupid? Um, possibly a reach, but do we think

  • 1:10:02

    you're about to do it? Go ahead, do I'm going ask I'mma ask anyway. Do we think he's um trying to stir stir

  • 1:10:10

    the pot a little bit with this with this new video we dropped? Okay, since you asked, I'll share

  • 1:10:18

    something that only Girl, I wasn't going to say nothing. No, no, no. I'll share something that

  • 1:10:24

    only I believe. Okay, I haven't asked anybody about this. I don't care what anybody else thinks

  • 1:10:29

    about it. I think that every feature on the Clips album is together in one thought.

  • 1:10:38

    Oh, I I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. And nobody said that, but

  • 1:10:44

    they all are aligned in in one way in principle. Some of them may not say it, but every

  • 1:10:52

    one of them. Nah, that's all. That's that's my whole thing. I don't rattle on

  • 1:10:58

    what I know for real. But yeah, that's what I think. So that's it. Okay. So if you're saying that

  • 1:11:06

    falls in line, got it. Falls in line. I'm not going to do that because for those who don't know what I'm speaking to, um Tyler also put the video

  • 1:11:13

    out for Stop playing with me. And the video reminds me of Kendrick's

  • 1:11:18

    squabble up video just from the layout. It looks like it looks like, you know, um just just he had two

  • 1:11:24

    speakers there, some stuff going on, and he's standing there rapping in the middle of the screen and then at one moment LeBron and uh Mav

  • 1:11:33

    pop up next to him. Maverick Carter. Yes. Maverick Carter, not Mav Hoffer. Yeah.

  • 1:11:38

    Sound like you said mad. You know your voice mad. You know your voice is ugly. Oh well. You want me to do? Um and then

  • 1:11:46

    in the next scene the clips pop up next to him while he's rapping. And some more Louis. The clips don't run

  • 1:11:51

    out of no Louis [ __ ] to they not running out. They No, not at all. They ain't slowing

  • 1:11:57

    down. Custom [ __ ] everywhere. That video is cool how when you liked it, it did like its own emoji [ __ ] on

  • 1:12:04

    it. I never seen that before. Oh, no. That that's been happening. Yeah, they do that with holiday like Father's Day and all holidays. If you

  • 1:12:10

    like certain team tweets and [ __ ] it'll pop up. They do that when you like it. It's like a broken sh.

  • 1:12:18

    I wouldn't know technology. But yeah, I was just wondering which

  • 1:12:24

    what y'all, you know, thought about it. Old rappers kicking these young rappers ass [ __ ] [ __ ] you talking about? That's Tyler. That's the clips.

  • 1:12:32

    The old rappers. This is the only time in history where this is true. And he went crazy on that on that clip [ __ ]

  • 1:12:38

    in such a predatory business. [ __ ] gonna be giving him the real He

  • 1:12:43

    went nuts on that clip [ __ ] Cool. Oh yeah, crazy on that clip [ __ ] Yeah, he did go nuts, but that the clips on

  • 1:12:50

    POV to me, both of those verses are in verse of the year talks. Both of them, Pusha and Malice.

  • 1:12:57

    And I got Malice verse on FICO up there. That's my malice.

  • 1:13:02

    That's the best vers on fight crazy and Mal vers and I got Mal verse on so far. All

  • 1:13:09

    right, we ain't I a gonna keep going and Meek on the Friday joint. But

  • 1:13:14

    outside of Meek, it's been malice. That push verse is tough to me. I ain't

  • 1:13:20

    going to hold you though. Not not enough is being said about it because of how [ __ ] feel about Jim. But all I see is

  • 1:13:26

    60 stars, 20 year thousand years. And then to rhyme the whole verse with

  • 1:13:33

    thousand airs. Pushes a He different. Yo, I ain't gonna hold you. Yeah,

  • 1:13:38

    I'm saying that as a MC. Listen to that. Oh my god. That's not the easiest rhyme.

  • 1:13:44

    Nobody would No MC would pick Thousand to do this whole version. It's

  • 1:13:50

    just a headache. It's just a headache. I'm leaving that. He stayed there and killed Jim. Yo, YouTube's network [ __ ]

  • 1:13:59

    again. Get these 5500 hosted [ __ ] out of here. Yo, and anytime the clips drop the

  • 1:14:05

    beat out, somebody die. Both of them. Push and malice.

  • 1:14:10

    Yeah. When the beat drop out, a shot is heard around the earth.

  • 1:14:16

    Get these 50. That's how I feel about these [ __ ] is showing up anywhere just doing

  • 1:14:23

    you talking about us. Get these 5500 hosting [ __ ] out of here. Yeah, cuz

  • 1:14:29

    they be popping up like they big [ __ ] [ __ ] You are there for some Twizzlers.

  • 1:14:36

    And that's a lot of Twizzlers, [ __ ] I don't know. [ __ ] you talking about. Show out his [ __ ] mind.

  • 1:14:41

    That's a lot of Twizzlers. $5,500 for Twizzlers. I can do a I can get a lot of Twizzlers. Yeah. Oh, all right. It's a It's a trap.

  • 1:14:48

    No, it ain't no trap. It's just levels. It's a trap to me. You not on that level over there. No, you're not. I don't even

  • 1:14:54

    take it that way. I'm going to do a $5,500 hosting though. I'm going to tell you that right now. I'm going to do a bunch of them. It depend on where it's at.

  • 1:15:00

    But you also going to walk like if it's local a 50 like you took the 5,500

  • 1:15:05

    hosting is what I'm saying. I'm not [ __ ] on that, [ __ ] My hostings was for less than that. Don't let me get to

  • 1:15:11

    talking. I'm saying you forgot that though. When No, I did not. Those that forget are doomed to repeat. You don't talk like

  • 1:15:17

    those that forget are doomed to repeat. I ain't forget a goddamn Sak over there, bro. I'm just saying I didn't forget. Stop

  • 1:15:22

    dissing the 5,500 [ __ ] [ __ ] on us, right? No, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, Mark. [ __ ] you don't.

  • 1:15:29

    Hey, Mark. Who the [ __ ] I was in Newark this morning for free. I'm out here just You mean you love That's the love. What about the

  • 1:15:37

    freedom program? We know about the other one. We know how much We know sausage. You know, we know how much you get.

  • 1:15:44

    Kings turkey, sausage, eggs. I know what you do. Yeah, but it did sound good.

  • 1:15:49

    We We know with that shirt on it's all confusing. We know how much you make from the speaking engagements. We know you. Yeah,

  • 1:15:55

    we do. I know. But you you probably F6es and [ __ ] No, that's not about me. No.

  • 1:16:01

    We know how much you make for and speaking engagements coming back, right? Why are you so ashamed to be doing good?

  • 1:16:06

    I'm proud to be doing cuz we come from a place where when you're doing too good, you walk in the house and somebody tied up

  • 1:16:13

    pretty much. You know what I'm saying? We just not doing good like you. We we we can't shoot the 55s cuz we trying to

  • 1:16:18

    do the 55s. You know what I'm saying? I don't I don't I don't think I don't think it's I don't think it's not in your future.

  • 1:16:25

    So don't I don't I don't think what I don't think what I'm doing I don't think what I'm doing is is uh

  • 1:16:32

    far-fetched for anybody in here to do actually I should be the the reason that people have more hope that they could do

  • 1:16:39

    do that. I think that's how I feel. We're inspired. I agree. I know y'all don't care but in the '90s

  • 1:16:44

    when I grew up this was unimaginable. you know what you got to put in your thing where I come from you couldn't

  • 1:16:51

    convince somebody else that there was a way that you could get to that. So it's

  • 1:16:56

    cute while we looking back in hindsight, but in the process like

  • 1:17:01

    yo, you know Paul Pierce told shorty, man, you good with them words. You got

  • 1:17:06

    to put that thing. You're good with the words. He is good. That boy will pivot and get him off his

  • 1:17:14

    right. No play, boy. I pay all the taxes, [ __ ] If y'all

  • 1:17:20

    want to sit there and talk about me for an hour, I'm cool. There's nothing they could do. They took it already. Wow. I mean, stop playing with the

  • 1:17:27

    people, man. They can do a lot of [ __ ] Yeah, they came. Yeah, but they took your [ __ ] too, right?

  • 1:17:34

    We don't make enough of them to take our [ __ ] Yeah. Probably paying out. I get Yeah, I get I get I get a refund. I get a refund.

  • 1:17:39

    Yeah, I be loving May, man. I get a little bit back. Yo, I'm All right. Go ahead. Go ahead and play. I'm going let y'all play.

  • 1:17:45

    Where we at? All right, Tyler. Congratulations. Congrats, Tyler. Congratulations. Uh, what else? What else? What else? Do

  • 1:17:52

    you think he um real quick on Tyler, do you think he incorporates any of this into a show now? Oh yeah. Jared Carmichael,

  • 1:17:58

    [ __ ] Are you crazy? I think he probably that's that's why he

  • 1:18:04

    made the announcement at the show. They probably already got the stage show and all that [ __ ] worked out to incorporate.

  • 1:18:10

    Don't touch the glass, Jared. Gro, you can't get none of this.

  • 1:18:16

    That was He played him so bad that day on that [ __ ] man. Yo, to do that on somebody HBO reality show, right? Somebody else's show. Still one

  • 1:18:23

    of my greatest Tyler moments is him on on Flex. That's the best. Oh, that's the best thing ever. That's the best one. Him on Flex with the gay bars. Flex look

  • 1:18:29

    so befuddled. This [ __ ] was amazing. Like, whoa. Oh,

  • 1:18:34

    but sex. Flex did all that looking confused and

  • 1:18:39

    then laid on the table for the acupuncture [ __ ] and posted the pictures laying on the stomach with some [ __ ] standing behind him. Sure, it's different. Wait, what's wrong

  • 1:18:46

    with that? Nothing. But I say nothing. I do your bag on Thursday. [ __ ] I'm getting one tomorrow. Thursday.

  • 1:18:52

    You're not getting lipo. No, he got light shirt. Joe said it wrong. Lipo.

  • 1:18:57

    Lipo. He Oh, no. I'm not getting lipo. It's okay if you I will. I will. I just

  • 1:19:03

    don't need it right now. Oh, you done with the fillers?

  • 1:19:08

    You finished some [ __ ] Not yet. Got a little more. Yeah. You got little lines in your forehead. They got to touch you up. That

  • 1:19:14

    [ __ ] forehead is not bunch. It ain't not touching. That [ __ ] sturdy. That [ __ ] [ __ ] is standing still. Hey yo, and some of y'all [ __ ] out there

  • 1:19:21

    that I love, y'all faces don't move no more at all. And I think that y'all just think that

  • 1:19:27

    [ __ ] is stupid. So we don't see. We see. We just don't say nothing. So now our beef, we got somehow past the

  • 1:19:34

    lip injections. Your face ain't past the lip injection. No. What I'm saying is there's more

  • 1:19:41

    beef. I never thought they could be. Y'all face don't budge no more and we

  • 1:19:46

    saying funny stuff. Y'all laughing like

  • 1:19:53

    Yeah. Your lip don't move. Whatever y'all that doctor that Botox and them fillers and them bundle

  • 1:19:59

    packages. Slow it the [ __ ] down, [ __ ] You 23. Too much.

  • 1:20:05

    You're not even old enough for this [ __ ] Grow to your features yet, girl. Yeah, seriously. Oh my god. Anyway, anyhoos,

  • 1:20:12

    uh, anything else in music? Uh, I don't think so.

  • 1:20:17

    I don't think so. No. Well, I won't. Um,

  • 1:20:23

    look, I'm getting mad text. Thank you for the inspiration. Yo, keep going. Yo, you can This is like a This is dope.

  • 1:20:30

    Can I just hold something, please? No, I'm reading other text. Thanks for the inspiration. Yeah, see that. I'm saying it. Let me

  • 1:20:36

    hold something, please. my man. Call me back cuz

  • 1:20:42

    Call me back cuz your cous family reunion going to hit this year. What? No, it's not. He going to be there.

  • 1:20:48

    I'm going to be there. Yes, I am going to be here. Here you go. I'm not going to miss that for the world. Shorty in there. Who is shorty? My baby. I love you,

  • 1:20:54

    baby. And I believe in marriage. Okay. Huh? No.

  • 1:20:59

    Family reunion. It's a family reunion.

  • 1:21:06

    I'm only 40 short from the down payment on the condo. Is when you going to your failure?

  • 1:21:11

    I got one coming up actually. Are you going though? The blacks are paid to go.

  • 1:21:17

    But are you going though? Both of my sides paws are black. I don't know what you're talking about.

  • 1:21:22

    But are you going? I'mma try. Where's it at?

  • 1:21:27

    It's not going. I'mma try. It's like commit. Not paid. That pain got nothing to do

  • 1:21:33

    with it. No, the paid is the paid out. You can be like, I paid. I tried. Yeah.

  • 1:21:39

    Yeah. You ain't losing no money on the [ __ ] out of here. I'm captain still trying to make me buy some pigs.

  • 1:21:46

    They like that ain't even Captain Manley. One of y'all's trying to make me buy some pigs. So by Joey coming, he can

  • 1:21:52

    pay for the pigs and the beverages. Oh, for sure. You got to get the pig. Yeah.

  • 1:21:57

    It ain't no down south family. You ain't without no pig on the on the the whole pig. Yeah, they going to go

  • 1:22:03

    roast a hog in a heartbeat with the apple on his face. [Music]

  • 1:22:09

    Peel that skin right off. Boy, that's just absolutely good eating right there. Your phone going off.

  • 1:22:16

    This [ __ ] nosy as hell. Hey yo, this [ __ ] be sitting up high. This [ __ ] is the feds.

  • 1:22:21

    The worst person to be sitted, bro. I just I stay quiet. I respect that

  • 1:22:27

    [ __ ] You be [ __ ] up. You can just [ __ ] on, [ __ ] you. All that [ __ ] you say to

  • 1:22:32

    that [ __ ] I don't got it. Nah, [ __ ] You got it. Them z. I didn't even know

  • 1:22:38

    they had limits. This [ __ ] unlimited, [ __ ] [ __ ] we doing a face [ __ ] Yo, this [ __ ] is a

  • 1:22:45

    li. That's why I wanted to dead you on that 500, [ __ ] I'm not gain.

  • 1:22:51

    This [ __ ] is a fool, bro. He keep saying you dead on that. No, I made it. Oh, you made it. I made I had to. Yeah, I'm dead on that.

  • 1:22:59

    When you go to your family reunion, you like the star. He don't go. It's a star everywhere. He don't go.

  • 1:23:05

    No, I mean he may be unless Breezy pull up. Oh, I can't wait. [ __ ] B like your [ __ ]

  • 1:23:11

    cousin. That's You wasn't supposed to start eating sugar again before your family. You should supposed to pop up on [ __ ] with your new non sugar body.

  • 1:23:18

    That ass you. We thought you was on. I thought you I still think you

  • 1:23:23

    I'm about to go back. I was on the pip.

  • 1:23:29

    Hey, let me see. Hunter Biden said that's good. Yo, this [ __ ] said the pipe. Uncle Biden said it's good.

  • 1:23:34

    Hunter Biden interview is fire. By the way, he did not mad. He did not compliment the pipe.

  • 1:23:40

    Well, he talked about how fire it was. He's an addict.

  • 1:23:45

    He said he said, "And when you when you cook it, you burning off all the impurities."

  • 1:23:50

    So, he was breaking it down. I don't like that that that's the only part that gets highlighted. I don't need you care about your point.

  • 1:23:58

    It's really It's a really good interview. No, this ain't no rumor. This is an interview. It's a clip. Yeah, it's an interview. It's like a

  • 1:24:04

    three-hour interview. It's crazy. He can't believe. Yo, you Yeah. I can't believe that. What?

  • 1:24:09

    That you're the son of a former president talking about how to Listen, I sat there and I wish that he

  • 1:24:14

    would have been running for [ __ ] some office. He was keeping it mad real in that interview. You might win.

  • 1:24:21

    You haven't seen Neil Parks put me on. I'm going to watch it tonight. We might need some more people in recovery in office.

  • 1:24:27

    So some troops up there to the masses. That too. You're going to watch that. You be like,

  • 1:24:33

    "Oh [ __ ] I got to [ __ ] with dude." Hey yo, the funny [ __ ] right now is to see the people that that voted for

  • 1:24:38

    Trump. How they crying. Yo, they be talking so soft. They be talking so soft. Yo, they so humble. The The ones that

  • 1:24:45

    sold their souls and voted for him after their families is getting grabbed up and their moms and [ __ ] up here. Uh, one

  • 1:24:53

    dude just cut Canada wouldn't let him come back. I mean, he didn't come back in the country. He went to Canada. Oh [ __ ]

  • 1:24:58

    He he would in the United States since he was three and he was, you know, he go back and forth to Canada. So, he had a

  • 1:25:04

    weed charge and another charge that got dismissed. They wouldn't let him back in America

  • 1:25:10

    on a weed charge. Mhm. They was like, "Yo." And it got dismissed. Yo, they was like, "Uh, sorry." He was

  • 1:25:17

    like, "You know what made me mad about these Trump niggas?" You know, he was talking like this. You know, I I used to be with

  • 1:25:24

    him, but yeah, it's a little too much. I like What made me mad about the Trump [ __ ]

  • 1:25:30

    and I'm with y'all, they look dumb now trying to backpedal and backtrack.

  • 1:25:35

    Yeah. But listening to them do that, what makes me angry is in the event that they were right, Trump

  • 1:25:43

    comes in and gets the country together, right? I don't know what percentage w I don't

  • 1:25:50

    know percentage wise how likely they thought that was but they clearly thought it was like they bought into the idea they clearly thought it was like

  • 1:25:56

    cool that to the side if they are wrong

  • 1:26:03

    then this rapest evil

  • 1:26:09

    bigot of a man had practice already. Now, see, the first term,

  • 1:26:16

    dog, I'm just in here learning my way around. I'm just Hey, and by and by the end of that term,

  • 1:26:23

    them [ __ ] should have knew that he gained some he gained some traction because he was talking about voter

  • 1:26:29

    suppression and had [ __ ] rushing the the polls like, so that tell you that he

  • 1:26:34

    gained some power like Thanos in the first time and was just looking around at you. So now you give this idiot

  • 1:26:39

    experience. So that mean from day pre-day one

  • 1:26:44

    I'm on [ __ ] The first day sound like mad before he got in. Before he got in he put that pin to

  • 1:26:51

    work. So it's like dog y'all asked for this. Y'all asked for like the worst possible version of a monster.

  • 1:26:57

    You know what he did? An experienced monster who know his way around your crib. Now with a team of monsters cuz he is

  • 1:27:03

    cuz he is charismatic and all that [ __ ] What he did was he convinced them that

  • 1:27:09

    his successor after the last term [ __ ] it up and made it worse.

  • 1:27:14

    That's where they bought in at and he played in identity politics. But what he's doing right now with his Washington commander [ __ ] right? He's

  • 1:27:20

    doing the same thing again. He's my football team. Yeah, that is your team, isn't it? No, that [ __ ] No, he's not a Steelers fan. You a

  • 1:27:26

    Steelers fan. I told y'all he's all over the map. I give you Aaron Rogers came to Pittsburgh. I'm going to Washington, but go ahead.

  • 1:27:32

    You should just come to Philly. You're already a Sixers fan. go any but no I mean Donald Donald Trump made a

  • 1:27:37

    statement one of his speeches right you know saying that he's basically ordering Josh Harris who's the owner of the Sixers um now the owner of the Redskins

  • 1:27:44

    or the Commanders to change the name of the team he's like get it done change the name back to the Redskins which is

  • 1:27:50

    particularly interesting because there's always a tweet for everything. If you look at Donald Trump maybe 5 years ago

  • 1:27:55

    he had a tweet when they were about to change the name from the Redskins saying presidents should mind their own business and not get involved in the

  • 1:28:01

    renaming of the Washington football team. That's before he Yeah, that's before he gained his power. Yeah, y'all president.

  • 1:28:07

    That's before he got got experience. The rule, have we not? None of the rules apply to me, bro. And half the [ __ ] he

  • 1:28:13

    say if you look hard enough on Twitter or some social media platform.

  • 1:28:18

    He has contradicted himself in the past. Yeah, everything

  • 1:28:24

    scary. Yeah. But now, right, it's just tough to believe that the Colbert

  • 1:28:29

    [ __ ] Mhm. cuz that cuz that report came out. They said that the late night show with Coar was was losing money

  • 1:28:38

    40 and 50 and $60 million and that and that was the reason and

  • 1:28:43

    it's not because Paramount and Sunscape or whatever the [ __ ] needs approval.

  • 1:28:49

    But now here we are with him openly Trump threatening to not give approval to Washington for

  • 1:28:56

    the stadium for the new stadium. And we know that that's important. We know that's important to them. So it's like he just in there thugging whoever need

  • 1:29:03

    to get thugged into what he wants to do. And I'm going to keep it real with you. It's like the schoolhouse bully. He done

  • 1:29:09

    knocked enough people out that they scared of him. The Republicans don't rock with him like

  • 1:29:14

    that. They scared of him though. Yo. Yeah. He's beat up enough people where they are really scared of him. Everybody folded. You got it.

  • 1:29:21

    Everybody folding. I don't think they going to fold on this Washington thing cuz that horse is out the bar and you can't go back and rename a kid a team in

  • 1:29:27

    the Redskins. He probably could have stopped it from happening. You can you could is I think that one's a little too

  • 1:29:33

    high of a mountain and I don't think he expects it. I think he just likes to always register that he was on the right side of the issue for those people who

  • 1:29:39

    vote on that [ __ ] cuz I think Trump's long-term vision is either to never leave the presidency. I think I think that

  • 1:29:44

    or or more like or but if he does leave and he will leave because it going to make him um to be in control of

  • 1:29:49

    whoever's next by still controlling that base. That that's the thing. And and so whoever that next person is, he Trump is

  • 1:29:55

    still the leader. It's like when Putin left office for a little bit in Russia but was still in charge. It's going to be like that. He's going to be the voice

  • 1:30:01

    behind the curtain. And that's how you do it by playing at people's identity politics. People [ __ ] the fact that I'm broke and poor. He's we're getting the

  • 1:30:07

    Redskins back, you know, or he's putting the Mexicans in their place or or whoever it is. And and the same thing

  • 1:30:12

    happens. It's just diversion. Hunter talks about that. He's talking about the cycle of reconstruction happening kind of all over again, but in

  • 1:30:19

    a different way now. It's it's some deep he's on some deep [ __ ] in that interview. I hope people don't get distracted by the crack part.

  • 1:30:24

    No, they are. They already are. That's the first thing I just brought up. But it's good [ __ ] in there, bro. If you sit there, you going to the

  • 1:30:31

    bip. Yo, you got to get the good light up with the bicks.

  • 1:30:37

    The hot flame. But when you talk to cook it, when you talk to former crack addicts, they even

  • 1:30:43

    the ones that are really off and clean. When you talk start talking about crack, they eyes light up, man.

  • 1:30:48

    Bro, there have you done it? No. This the way you said bro. That's where you was going. I talked to enough crackheads

  • 1:30:55

    that and heroin had only No, he got hit.

  • 1:31:02

    He was like, you said that before. You got face off from He said

  • 1:31:07

    you got face off from the fire one. I know which one you I know which one. They had no teeth.

  • 1:31:13

    Without the dentures, too. Gummy. Now, listen. Is a lot of [ __ ] got, you

  • 1:31:18

    know, that that was slinging that outside. That's what you was saying. Now we're talking about a lot of [ __ ] that was getting money took some head from a

  • 1:31:24

    crackhead before. Lot of [ __ ] Real [ __ ] had that fire crackhead/co head on the roster for the late night

  • 1:31:30

    Thursday head. Y'all are terrible people. That's for the late night Thursday head before the real joints come for the weekend.

  • 1:31:36

    That's Hey, that's when she was over there just chilling playing like checkers or something and you felt like getting some head like you know what yo

  • 1:31:43

    you did. All right. King you. All right. Suck my dick.

  • 1:31:48

    King you. Terrible. You never admit that. That's when you was doing a little kickback in the living room and do did the creep off upstairs with the

  • 1:31:55

    crackhead. Yo, come here. You on the stairs. Come on. Come on. You had a kickback at the crib. Crackhead cokehead. Yeah.

  • 1:32:01

    Crack ass. Cokehead. That's different. Very different. Different. Made that clear. They both had a kickback.

  • 1:32:06

    The crackhead shouldn't be in the crib. They both crackhead in the crib. The crack [ __ ] A crack house.

  • 1:32:12

    Oh, please. He was talking about how all the celebrities and [ __ ] that was bragging about doing coke back in the 80s like

  • 1:32:18

    they were doing crack, you know. Yeah. level crackheads. Some of them were freebasing though when they were

  • 1:32:23

    freebasing is crack. It is. It's high quality though. I'm just saying crack

  • 1:32:29

    like Hunter B. That is level to crackheads. No. Yes. That's what Whitney Houston from Jersey whole point was. She said I

  • 1:32:35

    don't ruin Bobby. It's ruined. Poor Bobby. What a talent.

  • 1:32:42

    Ruin one of our best black talents with that.

  • 1:32:47

    Whitney's whole point was I don't do crack. Still nobody's know where Clive is still. Yo, that's

  • 1:32:53

    At no point. Yo, how much [ __ ] got to happen before America says, "Hey, where

  • 1:32:58

    is Clive Davis?" He popped up in I was watching the uh Billy Joel doc on HBO, which is fire.

  • 1:33:03

    Yeah, fire. I watched it, too. Hey, he popped up in there. [ __ ] Billy Joe. Billy Joel is a wild boy. [ __ ] his [ __ ] his best friend's

  • 1:33:10

    wife. Married her. Married her and was making songs about her. And then she was turned into a super exec. like she was managing all that

  • 1:33:16

    [ __ ] [ __ ] What? I have to see it. You You should watch. It's fire. It's fire. Amazing. Doc.

  • 1:33:22

    I have to see it. Amazing. I've been wasting my time with these [ __ ] uh uh missing girl docs.

  • 1:33:28

    Like, where's Jodie such and such? Or Yeah. How do I keep going with it? I

  • 1:33:34

    click on that [ __ ] Where is Jodie such and such? It's three [ __ ] episodes. An hour, hour and a half. They never

  • 1:33:41

    found the [ __ ] out of [ __ ] show. I hate that. That's what I hate. Oh yeah. Yeah. Don't ask me where she is and you don't know.

  • 1:33:47

    I go to YouTube to watch the cold cases like 30 years. I hate gold cases. What? I don't even I don't even watch date

  • 1:33:52

    line. I'm talking when they solve it. I watch a solve on YouTube. They got to solve they got they locked up a 94 year old

  • 1:33:59

    [ __ ] too. 95 year old black man from um I think in uh London. You

  • 1:34:04

    know what I'm saying? He killed somebody back in the 60s and then when they were talking to he was just like oh [ __ ] that. No comment. No, it was just fire how he

  • 1:34:10

    got away. How they got away but fire how they caught him. He just came and grabbed you one day and locked him up for the crime.

  • 1:34:15

    Yeah. Oh yeah. They have some new They have some new DNA [ __ ] with they

  • 1:34:21

    you know it's somebody out there that committed a crime that they didn't get caught for, you know. Yeah. Who's been holding for 30 years

  • 1:34:26

    and in their 90s now? I'm only saying if you think that's unlikely. No, I'm saying if you're in your 90s, I

  • 1:34:32

    don't think that's a bad solution, man. Do you know how many We can cut this out. I don't want to sound like I'm a crazy person, but I

  • 1:34:37

    just I feel like in your 90s I'm not doing a bid in my 90s. I'll do whatever. I'll go out in blaze of glory then. No. But why? I want a perf walk at 90

  • 1:34:45

    with your walker. Huh? Yeah. Yeah. Per roll. I want I want a per

  • 1:34:50

    walk. They probably put you somewhere decent at that age. I don't know. That would be one of the hardest pictures in the universe. Me as a

  • 1:34:56

    95year-old per walk arrested spitting at the cameras. I got to make a political

  • 1:35:02

    squint. Smiles. What's the political? You you killed somebody, right? You mean our smiles?

  • 1:35:08

    You going to give him your squint? Look. Look. Look at his eyes right now. This [ __ ] is so stupid.

  • 1:35:13

    Y'all do both squint. You You You still don't think you squint. No, he don't. Mark. Yo, bro. Anyways,

  • 1:35:18

    every picture you take, you squint. Okay. Yeah. The purposely though. It don't look subtle.

  • 1:35:24

    Let me see. You squinting currently. You litally squint.

  • 1:35:29

    You squint right now. Idiot, bro. You squintish. You only squint where the Botox went. My eyes open.

  • 1:35:35

    The rest of your face, man. Movement. Yeah, cuz he just stay low. I got Botox. A got no wrinkles or bags.

  • 1:35:42

    It's okay. Let me see this. Oh, your [ __ ] clean.

  • 1:35:48

    Don't move. Yeah, cuz your forehead look 41.

  • 1:35:55

    And you're not 41. You see what's wrong with [ __ ] You're an idiot. You're not 41, my G. People, I just want to let you know when

  • 1:36:00

    when people get exposed, they try to identify everything else and everybody else. So now he's going to point out how

  • 1:36:06

    Mark had his [ __ ] forehead is not wrinkled. He going to point out ish Botox. Chill out my [ __ ] We on you, boy. Stop

  • 1:36:13

    trying to switch it. You got some Joe talks. I make jokes. I think I think I think everybody up here looks great.

  • 1:36:19

    Like any joke I make is being performing. You trying to identify

  • 1:36:24

    you try to identify the money that [ __ ] is spending to look good like ish and his bow ties like marking his. Oh no. None of y'all are investing in

  • 1:36:30

    your bodies. That's a joke. None of y'all are taking the money and pouring it back into yourself.

  • 1:36:36

    Not one. Not one of y'all been on the treadmill for two. Now one of y'all are doing that. I think he is [ __ ] Jolane. Yo, get

  • 1:36:44

    your [ __ ] ass out of here. Jolane. Jack Lane. Jack.

  • 1:36:50

    Got you. This [ __ ] here, boy. How is the workout going though? Uh, so far so good. Great. Are you like

  • 1:36:55

    stepping it up in terms of I'm doing I'm doing whatever the trainer says to do. That's as simple as it is

  • 1:37:01

    for me. Okay. Whatever he is doing, I'm doing. I'm not asking questions. I'm just

  • 1:37:06

    so whatever weight he put on all that [ __ ] You don't ask nothing. You just do. Yeah, that's mine. That's fine. And if it's if it's too heavy,

  • 1:37:12

    he lying. He lying. He question the weight though.

  • 1:37:19

    He [ __ ] li Well, cuz the train is a liar. The train is a liar. You supposed to

  • 1:37:24

    tell you something. You're not even supposed to look. He tell you something light under there, but there's more. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to do three sets to uh

  • 1:37:31

    20 and you get the last one. I need 30 or 40 on this one. Yep. Like, wait, watch, [ __ ] My arms is dead. My legs

  • 1:37:37

    is done. He one of them. But, but he's great. He's great. Uh, I recommend

  • 1:37:43

    anybody that's on the fence about it, uh, i.e. my girl, uh, get get that get

  • 1:37:48

    that trainer and get in there. Get that trainer. Get in there. My baby will not.

  • 1:37:54

    This guy is an idiot. What?

  • 1:37:59

    That's [ __ ] up. It sound bad. [ __ ] you up. sound bad when she's dead ass. No, my baby lo. She coming at you.

  • 1:38:05

    Oh, speaking of which, not not that part, but y'all y no. Hey, buddy. He watching tone.

  • 1:38:11

    Speaking of your lady, y'all had an anniversary. I was ask how it went. Six years. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I told yall that. I told y that.

  • 1:38:17

    Yeah. Last time we saw you was headed out night on the town. We ain't seen you since. It went it it went. Is that really the gold tomahawk in the

  • 1:38:23

    I saw the briefcase tomahawk? It wasn't gold. By the time I posted that, that was when we went to dinner.

  • 1:38:28

    But that's from uh that restaurant I told you does a good job out there in North North Brunswick. South Jersey. Uh yeah, we went out there had a great

  • 1:38:36

    anniversary dinner uh at LeBibbies. They treated us like family. They didn't charge me at all.

  • 1:38:41

    Oh wow. They've never charged me once I step in there. This is the [ __ ] problem with rich people. Once I step,

  • 1:38:47

    yeah. And Tony, shout out to Tony the manager and owner over there. He's like, "Yo, if

  • 1:38:52

    you come over here with 20 and 30 people, then I'll charge you. But for now, you just come with your lady.

  • 1:38:58

    Well, it's only like what? One, two, three. I say 10 here. No, he said that's the part where people

  • 1:39:04

    don't put on paper [ __ ] I'm like, shut up. I don't pay for shitty ei. Yeah, you you one of them, too. I don't pay for no oxtail.

  • 1:39:10

    Oh, you Oh, you got this Jamaican restaurant connect boy. [Laughter]

  • 1:39:20

    Anyway, we had a really good anniversary. Uh, y'all know we taking our family trip to

  • 1:39:25

    Turks. Turks and Caos. Yeah, both of them. Right.

  • 1:39:31

    You leave Friday. I leave soon. I won't be here for the next broadcast.

  • 1:39:37

    I'm aware of that. But what day you leave? And Mel won't be here either. So Oh, she was who I was really relying on to

  • 1:39:44

    keep y'all together, keep it funny and entertaining. But Mel's not going to be here. So, one of y'all have to try to be funny. E, can

  • 1:39:50

    you come early on Friday? Yo. All

  • 1:39:56

    right, not bad. You did forget his name in the article, so I wouldn't. Yeah, that was disrespectful.

  • 1:40:01

    Remind him. Remind just in case he ain't read it. Just rat.

  • 1:40:07

    Go ahead. Oh, no. He read it. He read it. No, he saw it. He read the [ __ ] out that article. Other group woke up this morning. Y'all

  • 1:40:13

    wake up early. I ain't know so many people was subscribed to the Times. You know, you had to be subscribed at first

  • 1:40:18

    if you woke up early enough. I just played the cross. That's all. article for free.

  • 1:40:24

    The cheap I think I think I play the crosswords every day, but I get the article for free.

  • 1:40:30

    It's cool. You ready to [ __ ] Mm-m. Not yet. Oh, they got us, y'all. So, I'm sorry.

  • 1:40:36

    No, they didn't get us. You getting us? That's what they say. You got us. All right. Hold on, y'all. Go too far.

  • 1:40:42

    All right. This how the coup be starting now. What type of time we on, [ __ ] Let me see. Let me see what type of side I'm

  • 1:40:48

    standing on. I can't allow that. Nobody do that to me. All right. You hear what he just

  • 1:40:53

    got? Do you hear what he just said? But like high real quick. That us is what they real quick.

  • 1:41:00

    Stop [ __ ] talking to Mandy every time some [ __ ] drop, man. Hey, that comes up. But look, [ __ ] walk on Mandy. Godamn. What

  • 1:41:08

    happened, Flip? No, nothing. You just just watching you, man. You crazy. You had to know, [ __ ]

  • 1:41:14

    That [ __ ] was going to say something. You had You don't care. You knew, [ __ ] He prepped it last week. He He tried to

  • 1:41:22

    I pay taxes. What do you want, [ __ ] Don't give a [ __ ] about that tax [ __ ] What that mean? Hold up. What? What?

  • 1:41:27

    He's just saying words of distract. What you talking about? It mean I'm not hiding from nobody. It

  • 1:41:32

    is It is what it is. Like the killer [ __ ] at the strip club see me. The tax people came got what they got to get.

  • 1:41:38

    Everybody here taken care of laced. So I mean [ __ ] this [ __ ]

  • 1:41:44

    You got laces audience. What the [ __ ] am I hiding? What am I hiding for anymore? Everybody in locked locked in.

  • 1:41:50

    What you talking about? Lace. Everybody here. Hey, [ __ ] ain't seen nothing when it went from the 6 months

  • 1:41:56

    to the year. Yo, I need you till 2028.

  • 1:42:01

    2028. Stupid [ __ ] about the leaders. Oh, they playing um Oh, they didn't talk to each other all the way.

  • 1:42:08

    All right. Who had to 2028?

  • 1:42:14

    [ __ ] mad. They got you the death row deal. [ __ ] why [ __ ] is mad they locked in? Ju calling

  • 1:42:20

    me. Let me see what the hell what the hell is going. Yeah. Yeah.

  • 1:42:26

    Yeah. Tell a [ __ ] I love the woman born. This [ __ ] good.

  • 1:42:31

    Yo, you butt you butt down me. Day. Yo, you butt down me. Oh yeah, butt down.

  • 1:42:39

    Anyways, man, speaking of money, Queen's fixed.

  • 1:42:45

    Wow. Park Hill

  • 1:42:58

    Park Hill

  • 1:43:04

    Park down. Hey the market

  • 1:43:13

    was the market. Mark

  • 1:43:19

    your ass right there. Anyway,

  • 1:43:29

    the parking in show. Park in the end. Well,

  • 1:43:35

    oh man. Listen, we Yeah. Yeah.

  • 1:43:40

    Yo, don't let this be different than our normal broadcast. Yo, what's our next topic, you guys? Um,

  • 1:43:46

    yeah. This Yeah, this shouldn't be no different than what we normally do, y'all. Come on. The WNBA players are demanding more

  • 1:43:52

    money from their cheap bosses. Yo, you gave Hey yo, you gave Yo, you gave the WNBA [ __ ] one of our t-shirts.

  • 1:44:00

    Right. No [ __ ] This is trash. Look how it

  • 1:44:06

    just lines up. Yeah, I really do. Sheesh. The WNBA Allstar game. Oh, yeah. Let's start there. The actual

  • 1:44:12

    game. Did y'all watch the game? No. Uh, no. It was a good It was a barn burner for like 2 minutes.

  • 1:44:18

    Did you say a barn burner? Yeah. Yeah. Y'all don't say that. I said no. Yo, I can't.

  • 1:44:23

    It was a good game. Caitlyn's team played though. Theait the

  • 1:44:30

    Caitlyn squad was played. It was a good game. It wasn't particularly close, but there was a lot of action because of the

  • 1:44:35

    four-pointer and uh I thought it was a fun game. I thought it was No, listen. I I have been watching the

  • 1:44:41

    WNBA. Yeah. Like I play prize picks and so because of prospects I've been learning about the players. I'm watching the

  • 1:44:48

    [ __ ] The [ __ ] is women's basketball's coming a long long way. All jokes aside, there's some great basketball being played. It's coming outside of Caitlyn.

  • 1:44:54

    You do that more. I'm going get you right. What? Yo yo,

  • 1:45:05

    you watch more basketball. Pay attention. We got you. Like that

  • 1:45:11

    in there. Hey, you do that to win you right.

  • 1:45:18

    You a fool. Anyway, no, but the game was great. But the

  • 1:45:23

    thing that got the most attention wasn't the game itself. It was the t-shirts that some of the

  • 1:45:30

    players were wearing. The comments made about the t-shirts. Well, right. It starts with all of it together, right? The team, they were

  • 1:45:35

    wearing uh shirts that spoke to their desire to make more money, right? and to get the owners to pay them

  • 1:45:43

    more money as they enter this deal. And then the world responded. Some people stood in solidarity. Other people were

  • 1:45:49

    like, "Fuck y'all talking about." And that became a big debate. And there was also a little backdoor debate if you saw

  • 1:45:54

    the press conference with Kelsey uh and others about um about who participated

  • 1:46:00

    in those talks cuz there were talks about making more money and organizing strategies around making more money.

  • 1:46:05

    Most of the people were on board. some people on Caitlin's team were and and that became a whole other side conversation, but I don't want to make

  • 1:46:10

    it about Caitlin. I'm just going to say the WNBA women are asking for more money. They're demanding more money. What What does the top athlete in the

  • 1:46:17

    WNBA make a year? Like roughly on WNBA soccer has gotten so out of hand that we're now seeing the

  • 1:46:23

    league compared to one, a global sports league that generates over a billion dollars a year in TV contracts around

  • 1:46:29

    the world and has individual sponsors like LBMH that pay $und00 million or more. Now, this is obviously a

  • 1:46:35

    ridiculous comparison for all the reasons I just mentioned and plenty others, but I think it might be helpful to understand what's so challenging

  • 1:46:41

    about the WNBA negotiation. So, for starters, you'll commonly hear that WNBA players don't want to get paid the same

  • 1:46:47

    as NBA players. They just want to split the same share of revenue. A little lengthy, but context, NBA players get around 50% of the annual revenue of the

  • 1:46:54

    league. They split it with owners, 50/50, while WNBA players only see about 10% of the revenue that the league

  • 1:47:00

    creates. That sounds like a mismatch, and they should probably increase that. Now, here's the problem with that. The WNBA has never made a profit. That by

  • 1:47:06

    itself is not a huge problem. Sports teams lose money on an annual basis all the time, and the league will eventually

  • 1:47:11

    be profitable when its next media license. The problem is with their cap table. Now, since the defant every year for the

  • 1:47:19

    last 25 to 30 years, the NBA has funded and covered those losses. It has cost the NBA around $10 million annually.

  • 1:47:26

    This wasn't a bad deal for the NBA. The NBA was able to package up the WNBA's media rights with their own and sell it

  • 1:47:31

    as a year round package to TV broadcast. Okay, since the WNBA takes place during the NBA offseason, it also sort of gave

  • 1:47:38

    them a call option on women's sports. If it's successful, it's worth billions of dollars. If not, they write off the $10

  • 1:47:43

    million as a tax loss. No big deal. Now, the problem is that at that $10 million a year, that financing was not cheap.

  • 1:47:50

    Additionally, the WNBA raised $75 million from an outside investor group in 2022 that included Nike and other

  • 1:47:56

    sports owners. As a result of the NBA's cash and that additional investment, the WNBA now only controls about 42% of its

  • 1:48:03

    revenue stream. The NBA controls 42% as well, and that outside investor group controls the rest. What this means is

  • 1:48:09

    that out of that $2 billion media rights deal that the WNBA just signed, the league and its players will see less than half of it. That's why getting to

  • 1:48:16

    50% revenue share is going to be so challenging. Now, don't get me wrong, WNBA players will see increased salaries. The league is making a lot

  • 1:48:23

    more money. Attendance has doubled. Viewership is up. They just signed this media rights deal, and they're adding teams, but some players have been

  • 1:48:29

    talking about a million dollar more a year salaries. And that's not going to happen anytime soon simply because of the cap table that the WNBA has had to

  • 1:48:36

    put in place because of the losses over the last 25 years. It was a little lengthy, but I thought

  • 1:48:42

    it was important and it's very important when you when you have this conversation. I think it's very important because it takes some of the

  • 1:48:48

    emotional stuff out. These are the top five earners in the WNBA.

  • 1:48:54

    Jackie Young 252K. Kelsey Mitchell 249K.

  • 1:48:59

    Joel Lloyd 249K. Uh Kalia Cooper Copper 248K. And I don't

  • 1:49:06

    want to mispronounce this name. Enrique Ogan Bal sounds I may be [ __ ] up. My

  • 1:49:12

    apologies. 241K. She's tough. And those are the top five salaries. And the average salary is 106.

  • 1:49:20

    Oh, that's that's significantly higher than it was. Yeah, the average is 106. And significantly the minimum is 66, I

  • 1:49:26

    believe, right now. I'm on the I'm on the I'm on the girl side in this. And I And I do think that

  • 1:49:31

    they will see an increase. You can't be. Why? Um,

  • 1:49:38

    when you take the emotions out of it, if you're a business owner and you're running a business and you were in a

  • 1:49:44

    negative for so so so long, it's kind of only right that you recoup what your

  • 1:49:49

    what your uh investment was and then start to share that. I think that once the owners or whomever backed

  • 1:49:56

    it recoups their money, then I think the splits should be more along what the NBA

  • 1:50:01

    splits are. See, I disagree with that. I disagree with that. Anybody starting a business

  • 1:50:07

    should expect to spend money and lose for 5 to 10 years.

  • 1:50:12

    True. If if in that 10th year, and I'm just freestyling here, if in that 10th year,

  • 1:50:18

    the person that you in business with get it cracking and that's when the momentum come and the traction come and and the

  • 1:50:24

    brand deals and the licensing and yada yada yada, then I'm not I don't walk in the owner's office saying, "Hey, y'all

  • 1:50:30

    lost all this money." I'm going to the office saying if you want to continue the upswing that's happening here, you

  • 1:50:36

    got to pay me now. I don't care what you lost. No, but they that's on you. But they have had a significant upswing.

  • 1:50:42

    Like I don't think if you go back to look at the UPS workers making more than Caitlin Clark. Yeah. She's making 80.

  • 1:50:48

    So we can't sit here and say significant. I'm talking about from where they were. What I'm saying is there is a an

  • 1:50:55

    ascension for what their salaries are. I think if you look back 5 years ago, 6 years ago,

  • 1:51:00

    there were no $250,000 a year WNBA players. I'm telling you, if I'm those if I'm any

  • 1:51:07

    one of those girls, I don't want to hear that when I walk into office. You can save your breath telling me about what

  • 1:51:13

    happened before now. Right this second, we getting [ __ ] cracking and we got Ju Guu on the way. There's there's no sign

  • 1:51:19

    of us falling off. There's franchises that were that were uh that were purchased for $10 million that are worth

  • 1:51:26

    nine figures today. So, I mean, one good example is Hey, there's there's new teams.

  • 1:51:32

    Hey, think about all that. There are new teams. You can't tell me too much when I

  • 1:51:37

    walk in that corner office as a girly today. I'm not talking about Lisa Leslie and them. I'm talking about today. I'm talking about even listen and and it

  • 1:51:43

    sounds like I'm on the I'm just on the side of business. And what I'm saying is you can't expect for us to not get our

  • 1:51:49

    money back. Yes, we can. How do you want your business? Wait, wait, wait. Answer this at least. How do

  • 1:51:54

    you want your business to continue without us, without our participation? I think that there's a gradual and you would never as a owner, you

  • 1:52:00

    would never stop this right now. I'm never. I'm saying that there are gradual increases that are going to take

  • 1:52:06

    place for us and for you. Would you make that argument for podcasters? No, he would not. Yes.

  • 1:52:11

    No, we should only get gradual. That's not true. And let me let me tell you, don't lie. Listen to this. Ask Ian and

  • 1:52:18

    him when I talk to them. You know this. I've never came up here and said, "Yo,

  • 1:52:23

    y'all making this, so I should make this as a result of what Joe's making." I don't even negotiate like that.

  • 1:52:28

    That was my strategy. I've never done that. Oh, I would not. No, I'm saying personally. I've never cuz in that cuz in that argument, we can

  • 1:52:35

    say, "Yo, dog, the pie is ascending and h so we are worthy of this." I don't

  • 1:52:41

    make that argument when I kind of surprised. I'm kind of surprised I never do that your statement to say that when me and you talked I don't know

  • 1:52:46

    about you and Ian talk and this was years ago so I'm not putting this on you and I tried to run that hey the the the

  • 1:52:54

    annual increase is what the legal annual increase is 3% or 4% or whatever the

  • 1:52:59

    number was 5%. You looked at me like you were supposed to look at me. I did. That's what I'm speaking to. Not saying

  • 1:53:04

    that you haven't done it. Listen to this. If not saying that you haven't done it. I'm saying this. If if if you were in

  • 1:53:10

    All right. Let's I know what you know what I mean. [ __ ] you talking about? I got a little

  • 1:53:16

    bit of intel. So if you were literally turning a loss, if you were taking a

  • 1:53:21

    loss, do you think I would come in here and say y'all need an increase? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Seriously, all jokes. If you were taking

  • 1:53:27

    a loss, you you think I would come in here and ask you for more money? Would I don't know. Should I say yes?

  • 1:53:33

    No. That's ridiculous. I disagree because if if you if you if you're losing money

  • 1:53:38

    and and then you have an opportunity to pick up and you and you're losing money, you start to pick up. You expect us to

  • 1:53:44

    come in here and say, "Yo, the [ __ ] that you're starting to gain, pay us with it." And Joe's lying because half of your

  • 1:53:50

    negotiation when me and you got together was, yo, you know, we just took on some more expenses and you know what I'm

  • 1:53:56

    saying? Like that was your spiel. Well, no. My position changes depending on which side of the table I'm on.

  • 1:54:02

    Yo, stop playing. Both of y'all do not fast conversation. No, that's not wrong with you. My I'm sadly he's not terrible.

  • 1:54:11

    One day he the label. Yeah, right. That's what I'm saying. Look, one day he is the label. One day he'll be the artist.

  • 1:54:17

    When and that's the duality. That's the duality of life. When I speak to when I speak to I is crazy or some people.

  • 1:54:23

    It's crazy. Yes. There are expenses that need to be taken into account.

  • 1:54:28

    Mhm. When I'm ish, [ __ ] them. I don't give a [ __ ] about that [ __ ] that you talking about, dog.

  • 1:54:36

    I got I got But then again, wait, wait, wait, wait. Cuz this does sound nuts. So, let me slow down. Let me slow down.

  • 1:54:42

    Let me slow down. I take it back. I take it back. Wait, hold on. Stop. Don't say nothing.

  • 1:54:47

    Don't say nothing. Don't say nothing. Don't say don't say nothing right now. Just let me get this point out

  • 1:54:52

    because I don't want this to be misconstrued. Got it. To talk like Barry Bonds, you have to

  • 1:54:59

    produce like Barry Bonds. Mhm. Okay. So, when I'm on the other side saying I

  • 1:55:05

    don't care about what you're saying, it's because I've produced like Barry

  • 1:55:10

    Bonds. Mhm. So, yeah. I don't care about uh the

  • 1:55:15

    normal what should how this should go. Go walk take a walk and find a way to

  • 1:55:21

    make Barry Bonds happy. And and that was your stance in the Drake argument

  • 1:55:26

    that they need to go outside and come back in. You goddamn right. You're goddamn right.

  • 1:55:31

    Now, I wouldn't suggest that you try that if you are not Drake

  • 1:55:36

    1,000% positive that you are producing at that clip. Well, there's two things with that.

  • 1:55:43

    One, you might you will never know if you're producing at that clip. Oh, yes, you would. You Oh, yes, you would.

  • 1:55:50

    You You'll never get the confirmation from them. That's what I'm talking about. Oh, you'll never get that because you'll

  • 1:55:56

    know. But the always take the other side of you'll know. They can. And that's when you withhold your labor. Yes.

  • 1:56:03

    That that's they could take the other side if you bury bonds. That's not a

  • 1:56:08

    good idea. That's not a good idea for them to do. And somebody on that side should know that. Yeah. So like right this second with

  • 1:56:15

    these girls, these girls, women, these women and and girls, these girl

  • 1:56:20

    ladies, these ladies have the opportunity or this small

  • 1:56:26

    window to say to billionaire owners, we don't care. They'll never have the

  • 1:56:32

    opportunity again to say, hey, we don't care about what you spend

  • 1:56:38

    and your losses and you just now making money. Can I jump in? Even even if they

  • 1:56:43

    don't get their way, they won't be able to even say this again. Go ahead. This is the only thing I would say and I I I

  • 1:56:50

    see all sides. I see all the arguments. As a business owner, I see it. As a as a as a worker, I see it. Um I think one, I

  • 1:56:58

    think the NBA has a history and a trajectory that we can follow. The NBA didn't make money for decades. The NBA

  • 1:57:04

    didn't really I mean through the 60s, through the 70s, was going bankrupt until Magic and Burger King, right? But they still kept playing

  • 1:57:10

    players more and and and the argument still was this is a long-term investment. I don't disagree with Ish's

  • 1:57:16

    point that you have to play a long game here and I don't think anybody disagrees with that that your your your your share

  • 1:57:21

    will increase as we make more money and the owner has a right to recoup it. But you can't recoup anything or build anything without the players.

  • 1:57:28

    So the question is not should you recoup it, it's what proportion should you get while we're recouping it. And I think

  • 1:57:34

    the player the owners often will understate how much they're making. I mean, I think the New York Liberty is

  • 1:57:39

    the good example because you can't tell by by purely by um attendance. You can't tell purely by ratings and owners do a

  • 1:57:45

    they do a lot of, you know, math. How many Pepsis being sold, hot dogs being sold, all of that stuff,

  • 1:57:50

    all that stuff. But one clear measure is the New York Liberty was purchased for somewhere between 10 and 15 million is

  • 1:57:56

    valued right now at 450 million. I mean, that's a huge [ __ ] joke. That tells you these owners ain't just losing

  • 1:58:03

    money. I didn't say that. No, I'm I'm not talking I'm talking to the But then but then when you start talking about leaguewide, you'll take the New

  • 1:58:08

    York Liberty, but then you got to go look at a team in a smaller market. You get what I'm saying? That's not nowhere

  • 1:58:14

    near that. But then you also have to look at the the the TV shares which are which are split this way, right? And you have to

  • 1:58:19

    look at what's happening in the summer and you have to look at the fact that there is a big pool of money. I think that I think you're right. I mean, I

  • 1:58:25

    don't I think the misrepresentation or argument has been and it becomes a straw man again, not you, but other people is

  • 1:58:30

    that they want to make what the NBA is making. No, they just want a bigger slice of the pie. No, I just said you're not saying it.

  • 1:58:35

    And you shouldn't take your product while it's more valuable and higher than it's ever

  • 1:58:42

    been and try to frame it a different type of way. It sends the wrong message for the 10year-old and 11year-old. You

  • 1:58:49

    should be trying to incentivize the farm system that's coming behind this wave. We're building the wave. The wave the

  • 1:58:55

    wave is here now with what these ladies are doing. You want to make this wave last 10, 15, and 20 years. And this

  • 1:59:02

    sends the wrong messaging to the young hooper. It does. And the truth is, pay the people that need to get paid.

  • 1:59:08

    If Okay, I agree with you. Kayla Clark signed a 4-year $338 million

  • 1:59:13

    deal. Yeah. Right. If you go back to five years ago with who?

  • 1:59:19

    The Fever. That's $80,000 a year. Yeah. Right. The Fever. If you go back five,

  • 1:59:25

    six, seven years ago, I think you said the wrong number. Wait, you said million. That's why I said,000.

  • 1:59:31

    I'm sorry. I heard that. I'm sorry. I heard a million dollar 338. 338,000. I'm

  • 1:59:37

    sorry. Dollar deal. Um, if you go back years ago, bro, them girls would have died for that deal. So,

  • 1:59:44

    I'm not saying that was wrong, but I'm just saying but it as the stuff

  • 1:59:49

    gradually Yeah. Like, I think that it should be incremental or or Can I make one more argument? This is

  • 1:59:54

    there was a second piece of what I was going to say cuz I hear what you're saying. The other thing is as an investment it's a bad strategy. The

  • 2:00:00

    reason and I know it's an extreme example. I concede that. But the reason Britney Grinder is locked up in Russia is because she had to go somewhere more

  • 2:00:07

    money. Right. So you're risking the legs, the arms, the body parts of these players who have to play around the world just

  • 2:00:12

    to make ends meet. And so to me as locked up in Russia because she had a vape penance against the law to have that out there.

  • 2:00:18

    But he's saying she would have never had basketball. She would have never had it.

  • 2:00:23

    Doesn't require the VA. Let me let me put it differently. Let me use it. I'm wrong. WNBA players have to play in other

  • 2:00:30

    leagues around the world during the offseason in order to pay their bills. I'm saying that that puts your investment at a danger. If I if I if I

  • 2:00:38

    have if I draft what's my man uh Cooper flag, if I draft Wimi, I don't want Wimi

  • 2:00:44

    playing in Latvia, you know, I don't want to play in the summer league. I don't even want to play in the summer league. But but but if he has to cuz I

  • 2:00:50

    won't pay him. To me, it's worth it just to protect your investment and to protect the league and to make sure that Europe that you've closed the market and

  • 2:00:56

    cornered the market on this talent. So, for me, it's all those things, too. It's just as from investment. I'm in agreement with every I'm in

  • 2:01:02

    agree. So, I'm saying pay them a little bit more. So, for me, the max salary in the WNBA right now is 250. Maybe it should be 500.

  • 2:01:07

    I'm not saying it should be a million because I don't I don't know the numbers well enough. The WNBA was founded on April 24th,

  • 2:01:12

    1996. Lisa Leslie, a prominent player, earned the maximum salary in the W, which was 91,000. And that's in 2006.

  • 2:01:19

    Mhm. So, no, these numbers ain't with So, in 20 years, it's

  • 2:01:25

    double plus one. Yeah, but that's ain't I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm not

  • 2:01:31

    Bro, again, I'm not against that. They they should be making more money. You just explaining it from the owner side.

  • 2:01:36

    I'm just saying that giving an objective perspective like yo dog, she if we was paying her 100red when we was taking

  • 2:01:42

    losses, we was taking losses, paying everybody money and not and not making no money. Yo, you know what? The NBA, I

  • 2:01:49

    mean the NBA, the WNBA and the people that run it could say what they say in this meeting.

  • 2:01:55

    They know the effects when Kate, they see the effects when Caitlyn when just Caitlyn Clark is in.

  • 2:02:01

    No, but Joe, and that's a big thing. A lot of these jumps have only really transpired over the last two years with

  • 2:02:06

    the emergence of Caitlyn Clark and um and and and Angel Reese. Okay, so this is my point.

  • 2:02:12

    They getting $3 million sneaker deals now. advance this conversation. This should be the point to Kelsey Plum and

  • 2:02:18

    the rest of them that are [ __ ] on this girl. You see what the power of one and two

  • 2:02:25

    is. So what could it look like if three, four, five, 10, 20 of us decide to take

  • 2:02:30

    this stance? They're not going to have a choice but to pay these girls. I don't like I don't like the fact that they came for shorty and was like, "Yo,

  • 2:02:38

    well, we ain't going to say." That was corny. I think that was horrible because guess what? She's the biggest star in this

  • 2:02:43

    league and she got the t-shirt on which is getting the entire movement more

  • 2:02:48

    notoriety. Yeah. I don't give a [ __ ] if she wasn't in the morning meeting to decide if we was wearing it. Hey, when y'all decided

  • 2:02:54

    to wear it, she had one, right? And I'm glad that Sabrina to Yo, that's not even relevant to what we talking about right

  • 2:03:00

    now. It's not relevant. It's It makes zero sense. Yo, when LeBron James and them stood up and said, "Yo, we need this,

  • 2:03:06

    this, this, and this done." Nobody said, "Well, LeBron, was you at the m was you at the meeting?" No, [ __ ] the biggest

  • 2:03:11

    star in the sport. So I now come forward and take the public stance that this is what we want done. That matters more

  • 2:03:18

    than if I was in the back door meeting at 61. Just to be fair though, they say Caitlyn Clark's team wasn't there. Not that

  • 2:03:23

    Caitlyn wasn't there. People like from her squad or from her. Okay. Is that Did they mean from her her

  • 2:03:28

    reference? That's what I took it as like her her team like maybe her I didn't take it that way. And this is an important piece because the WNBA

  • 2:03:35

    Allstar game was divided into two teams and one was Caitlyn Clark's team. And so I thought they were saying that her

  • 2:03:40

    her entire team wasn't there. Yeah. Meaning that that's not really a disc against her. It was saying she was just talking that she was still saying

  • 2:03:45

    too much. But I don't think it was personal to Caitlyn. I thought she was more saying like it's not relevant to be

  • 2:03:51

    said. Oh, it's [ __ ] up anyway. But I just want to say I don't know if it was an attack on Caitlyn. I think it was more just too much snitching going on about the whole

  • 2:03:56

    collective. The biggest star in the sport is supporting our movement. I don't give a [ __ ] what nobody says. And that's what I'm saying. The last couple weeks when we've been having

  • 2:04:02

    these talks about unionizing up here, you know, we we we've been here. And anyone who wasn't at the meeting is

  • 2:04:08

    okay. We don't we don't we don't talk about it. True. Actually, when me and you had the lamb chops,

  • 2:04:14

    wasn't there, Ice wasn't there. We was just piling. We just Hey yo, hey yo, real quick. What I what I wanted to say is that I was kind of surprised that

  • 2:04:20

    Joe's stance from a business perspective. Well, stop being professional, [ __ ] Go. Let's kick his back. No, no, no, no, no, no. But what I'm

  • 2:04:27

    saying is that cuz I go through that as well in my business where [ __ ] feel like, yo, you got to pay me this. And

  • 2:04:34

    I'm saying things are just starting to pick up. Why would I pay you this when I can go out there and do it myself? And if you feel you're worth this money, go

  • 2:04:40

    out there and get it yourself. So when he their point to you would be we the

  • 2:04:45

    reason why things are picking up. Yeah, but then I can but then but then that's why I'm kind of surprised that he said I can show you that you're not the

  • 2:04:50

    reason. Number one. Number two, me involving you in this is a luxury.

  • 2:04:56

    Yeah, but that's different. Flip. No, but hold on. But listen, you can you're who's the biggest star in your network?

  • 2:05:02

    You flip. Yeah. Back Woody. You flip. No, it's you, Flip. Yeah, but we talking about somebody where I can go.

  • 2:05:08

    No, you hear what I'm saying? In the WNBA, they can't do the WNBA. Let's stop bringing a WNBA. I'm talking

  • 2:05:13

    about Joe's comments of standing on the side of a Cuz people use that against me. Listen, people use that. Yo, I heard

  • 2:05:18

    Joe say this. Yo, [ __ ] if you if you know what you worth and you worth, don't bend in no f. So, if if I'm booking

  • 2:05:24

    somebody, they will hold up content to say I'm worth this. And then now when we look at the numbers, you can't even make that [ __ ] on your

  • 2:05:30

    own. So, you just doing that. You're being selfish. you're playing to my feelings and my emotion and you're using my man who I respect as a talking point.

  • 2:05:36

    So, it's kind of reckless to say that cuz it's not true. If for the years when [ __ ] is for years, if if I've been

  • 2:05:43

    paying you more than more than enough or more than you're worth to me

  • 2:05:48

    and then I've been losing now that I'm gaining because I got some traction and you coming back around and I can tell

  • 2:05:55

    you like, yo, by the numbers when I was paying you this, you shouldn't. You shouldn't have got that. So, let's work

  • 2:06:00

    together and we can go there. And then flip here. That's a tricky tricky spot. It is tricky. But I got

  • 2:06:05

    You know what the trickiest piece of that one was? When you said to you to me meaning that

  • 2:06:11

    I I have the analytics so I can show. So when you when you go to the accountant and they're like, "Nigga, you paying why

  • 2:06:16

    would you pay all this?" Or even before I went to the accountant when I was talking to Ian and he looked at it like, "Okay, this doesn't make sense. Why

  • 2:06:21

    don't you do this and get a bunch of people that wants to do it and don't feel like they can play on your

  • 2:06:27

    feelings?" He' been saying that. Yeah. But flip like, "Fuck Joe. Don't stop now. Come on. Okay.

  • 2:06:33

    I told you we bullshitting though. We n but he still be doing depend on what side of the table I'm on. I got Don't we trying to build

  • 2:06:39

    something? I said you need to be very blessed. No. And that's and that's where you got me at. Like so if you can hear that

  • 2:06:45

    don't listen to that [ __ ] It's true. You got it. Mark, you know you go Hold on. You know you go with the words.

  • 2:06:53

    You know Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Listen. Let me just say this, please. You know you go outside right now and make and make something of your own.

  • 2:06:59

    you've shown right now when you go outside and sit on a platform the views you bring that's value in that you mean

  • 2:07:05

    selling dope no platform we talking about like that platform you go outside you know the

  • 2:07:12

    visibility so you know you can step outside and add something to it so

  • 2:07:17

    I feel like to the my message to people is that [ __ ] if somebody don't want to pay you [ __ ] go out there and get on your own and show them

  • 2:07:23

    go get it show them that you work I feel like people hold up content they hold the platform they hold the business hostage

  • 2:07:29

    for selfish means and for selfish reasons. I think you're right on all of that. I think you're right on all of that. But you're just saying [ __ ] Joe.

  • 2:07:34

    Yeah, I'm just saying [ __ ] Joe. All right, I got you. Yeah. Yeah. I got a little serious. We got I see Cory pointing at me. We got to [ __ ] bonked out.

  • 2:07:41

    This [ __ ] got 20 million. Yeah, but I don't care about that cuz I know I'm going to go out there and get it. Yo, why y'all keep saying that's the

  • 2:07:47

    lie. That's how the c That's how the capital. You go out there and get it. Yo, we found behind the scenes and told us how

  • 2:07:53

    much you made us speaking engagements, [ __ ] All jokes aside, that's how No, listen to me. I'm not even being funny no more.

  • 2:07:58

    All jokes aside, that's how they get you. They be, "Oh, you can get your own 20 million." No. No. Almost nobody's going to get 20 million. True.

  • 2:08:04

    Like that's how they hustle you into taking a short cuz you figure one day when I get my 20 million, I'll be No, but what if you believe in yourself

  • 2:08:10

    though, Mark? What if the [ __ ] that what if somebody that told what CNN what if CNN [ __ ] me? What if CNN told you

  • 2:08:15

    [ __ ] once we let you go, you can't go up there and get what we what you made up here or get more. They can't tell you that. You step out and talk [ __ ] from

  • 2:08:22

    the land to the rail all that and you get and you get a lot of money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz you believe in yourself.

  • 2:08:27

    You sit there and have the African people dance on your stream and you can't get up. I don't know if you paid.

  • 2:08:32

    Yo, it's a that's a that's a All I'm saying is it's a hard conversation. I think it's a bad conversation. I think that

  • 2:08:38

    Tell me why it's bad. I think that's how they divide and conquer us. That's what I'm saying. But before you I think that's how they do Okay. Can you explain it? I don't want

  • 2:08:44

    to be on that back. I just need to know if this is true. Cuz I might have heard it wrong.

  • 2:08:51

    If If one of y'all start making 20 million, y'all going to leave the jar? Never. No. No, I think God [ __ ] may leave

  • 2:08:59

    before they make this wrong. I heard it wrong. Yo, what I'm saying? I think that that's

  • 2:09:04

    a bad thing because that's how they divide and conquer us. And so whether somebody, let's say a label or network

  • 2:09:09

    comes and says, "Yo, why you sitting over there working for the [ __ ] Joe? He making $20 million. Yo, you could be doing your own thing,

  • 2:09:15

    right?" Yeah. And so they'll pull you away from Procrastinates. I mean, oh,

  • 2:09:20

    but people been saying that to [ __ ] We don't fall for that. It'll pull you away from something, right? which is one that the the

  • 2:09:27

    probability not saying that it can't happen. It's a possibility that you could go on to make $20 million. Cool.

  • 2:09:32

    You possibly could. It's not probable. But what I'm saying is it it it lessens

  • 2:09:37

    this and lessens you. And sometimes that's how they split us up. Three years later from now, Flip could be [ __ ]

  • 2:09:45

    dropping Cheeky Nugies and then and then Joe could have dropped

  • 2:09:50

    from 20 to 11. You get what I'm saying? And it hurt two things. 2011, somebody's

  • 2:09:55

    getting fired. Yeah. Flip left. Oh, that could be true. You see what I'm saying? So,

  • 2:10:01

    I don't think you going to drop like that. But what I'm saying, you also promote us going out there and getting it. You also promote believing in

  • 2:10:06

    yourself. So, it it it's definitely he say he ain't got paid. No, no, that's not I believe in you.

  • 2:10:13

    Well, I do believe I pay you every time W.

  • 2:10:19

    I have no complaints. I'm wearing this for Andy Van and Bobby Benit.

  • 2:10:26

    Barry's fine. It's Andy Van and Bobby Bane I'm riding for right now. Tim Wakefield over here [ __ ]

  • 2:10:34

    Oh man. Anyway, cuz this was about Caitlyn Clark. Yes, it was. Okay. And the girl. It's about the women of the WNBA. I

  • 2:10:40

    apologize. Which means Kaitlin cuz a bunch of white people sitting around saying the balls of the of the NBA. Y'all mad [ __ ]

  • 2:10:47

    But I I I think that they should be paid. I think we all agree they should be paid more. The question is just how much. And I just think we not we can't

  • 2:10:54

    use a traditional job metric to assess it, right? Because this is a long-term investment and we just got to see.

  • 2:11:00

    Speaking of people getting their money, Fat Joe was at SeaWorld.

  • 2:11:05

    A [ __ ] Fat Joe was at SeaWorld. You missed it. Performing a medley of his hits.

  • 2:11:11

    Sure. Shout out to Fat Joe. Shout out to Fat Joe. The internet seemed to have a good time

  • 2:11:17

    with that. Why? So, I went I don't see what I clicked on it. I went and clicked on

  • 2:11:24

    it once the internet was having fun. Sometimes I be down. Uh

  • 2:11:30

    I'll be honest. I didn't I didn't really get the fun this time. I I got it. I didn't get the fun this time.

  • 2:11:35

    No, me neither. I didn't I didn't think it was as horrible of a SeaWorld performance with the audience

  • 2:11:40

    or people leaving. Even every everything was overdone. Like when they said, "Oh, there's the crowd leaving." There was seven [ __ ] leaving. Like I did hear a

  • 2:11:48

    faint internet. I did hear a faint uh call and reply. Yeah. When he was doing New York, I heard New York. I

  • 2:11:55

    didn't think it was as horrible as the internet made it seem cuz you said the key word. You said SeaWorld performance.

  • 2:12:00

    What the internet likes to do is do a out of context. Gotcha. So if it was a a

  • 2:12:05

    Fat Joe show and nobody's jumping up and shouting it's whack, he the [ __ ] he was in

  • 2:12:11

    SeaWorld. They didn't come they didn't come to see Fat Joe and he still had that place full and enough people in

  • 2:12:16

    there were rocking to it. So I don't think it looks bad either. But if you look at the the internet's passing it around like it was like his show and

  • 2:12:23

    nobody was into it. So Oh, so all these SeaWorld shows are like the halftime show kind of. Yeah. Oh then knock it off.

  • 2:12:29

    That's what I'm saying. They're here to see a whale. Yeah. They're not. Well,

  • 2:12:35

    I wasn't even Yeah. Listen, I've been saying I feel like SeaWorld has a bag. I feel like some of

  • 2:12:42

    the people talking [ __ ] have never had to perform in front of people that were

  • 2:12:48

    not fans of them or just perform or perform period. Yeah. Or perform giving him way too much

  • 2:12:54

    credit, bro. So yeah, Fat Joe going out there at his age and doing all of those hits. Like

  • 2:13:00

    I'm not I'm not never shaming that unless there's good reason to shame. Do not shame Fat Joe's slaps, man. He's

  • 2:13:05

    got mad [ __ ] Just like anybody that's that is not popping right now trying to

  • 2:13:11

    point out that there has been. Breaking news. Breaking news. Breaking news. Breaking news. Aussie Osborne

  • 2:13:17

    is reportedly passed away. Really? Wow. Damn. I was going to say how. No. Right.

  • 2:13:23

    No. I was literally just reading last week that details him and uh his wife had a a

  • 2:13:28

    pact. A pact? Yeah. They had a that they were going to go together if one of the if the

  • 2:13:33

    dementia ever got too bad with one of them that they would go together. They had a company in Switzerland that does

  • 2:13:38

    it and um I was just reading that. It sound like a pack I would make and

  • 2:13:44

    renew. Change your mind. Yeah. Like if she go first

  • 2:13:51

    I can't leave the kids. Well anyway

  • 2:13:58

    legend early blackend white legend them early black Sabbath records are

  • 2:14:05

    incredible some of the best music in this century maybe not had none of that in this I don't think you got none of that we've

  • 2:14:11

    had every talk in the world before we talk about Malcolm Jamal Warner passing so y'all I've been putting it off man I

  • 2:14:18

    was actually starting to show a little sad after hearing his voice on your intro it really kind of that was a great intro and it It it

  • 2:14:24

    should have let Rudy rock a little bit though. Yeah, baby. Baby, the outro out,

  • 2:14:29

    bro. That's our childhood. Yeah, for sure. No [ __ ] Like that's that's all I thought about like yo, the Monopoly one,

  • 2:14:36

    the Justine Justine one. Like all of those things, that [ __ ] played so much a part of our childhood that

  • 2:14:43

    it almost seems surreal. I'm older than y'all. You know what I'm saying? When I was watching that [ __ ] you know, that [ __ ]

  • 2:14:49

    is a little different for us. Yeah. He He was um And I knew him. He he he he

  • 2:14:54

    was a wonderful dude, you know. But before we even get to the personal part, I mean, what you just said is so important. I mean, this was TV at a

  • 2:15:01

    moment where most of us had five channels. Yeah. When people turned to Thursday night mustsee TV at 8:00 and the Cosby Show

  • 2:15:08

    came on, 35 million people were watching the Huxable family and he and Bill Cosby was America's

  • 2:15:15

    father. And that made Rudy and Sandra and Vanessa, you know, and Theo

  • 2:15:21

    sisters and brothers. Exactly. And and to the older folk, they're children. And he was the boy of the family. He was the

  • 2:15:28

    teenager. He was the one who many of us could relate to. The middle class kids could relate to him. They could see

  • 2:15:33

    themselves in him. Some of us aspired to be him. Some of the girls and maybe boys had crushes on him. They were He meant

  • 2:15:39

    so much to America. He was adored. And I think the beauty of the Cosby Show was

  • 2:15:44

    they they didn't make the perfect kid. He was the one when he was like, you know, "Dad, could you just believe in me

  • 2:15:50

    cuz I'm your son?" and he's like, "That's the dumbest thing I ever heard." And then he struggled in school, but then eventually they found out that he

  • 2:15:56

    had um dyslexia. So even neurode divergence was explored through him. His mistake, he got the Justine Justine

  • 2:16:02

    comes on the episode where he's gets caught kissing. He got caught cheating, right? The other girl who ended up being Vanessa K. Williams. And so it's like he

  • 2:16:09

    meant so much to us because we could relate to him because he wasn't perfect. Him teaching your little gang gang

  • 2:16:15

    member boy how to read. Yep. He did he worked after school in a program to go he attended NYU. NYU and

  • 2:16:20

    all that other stuff and car and the cosmic show episode when they dance off set ends as they're going to his graduation which was a perfect arc

  • 2:16:27

    from the early part where he's trying to figure out who he is and to the end where he is a success story and we can't

  • 2:16:32

    forget just one more thing Gordon Gard Gordon [ __ ] about to say and my boy was

  • 2:16:38

    trying to get fly and my boy was trying to get fly for [ __ ] Denise stupid ass [ __ ] Denise

  • 2:16:44

    man promised him she could do it you did what you know she did she flipped it on him and was like, "Yo,

  • 2:16:50

    bro, that see gas lighting." Yo, that's the original the real gas

  • 2:16:55

    lighting. Hey, Ice. What? If you don't know, bro, we've done this. Go ahead. Y'all

  • 2:17:00

    can do your thing. But I don't know the Cosby show. We not I didn't know you didn't know what the Goring Trail was. We've done this. Oh, you should watch that, man.

  • 2:17:06

    I'm not going to watch it. But y'all go ahead. Okay. No, no, no, no judgment. But I'll just say this. Um, I I had the the honor

  • 2:17:12

    of of knowing him. I'm trying not to watch that old [ __ ] I'm not watching that. That show's the greatest. You want to watch the

  • 2:17:18

    whole show? Not that I haven't seen already. I'm not going back to go watch it again. I like

  • 2:17:23

    he said, it was his childhood. It's going to hit different. Me watching it with my eyes now. I I might say, "Okay,

  • 2:17:29

    that was cool." It's not going to affect me the same way. I don't know if that's true. That's That's mature. I don't know if that's true. I think you

  • 2:17:34

    would probably enjoy it. Yeah, I think I think you would. I I think it's worth trying. But, you know, again, to each to just to bring it back to Malcolm, um,

  • 2:17:43

    most um, child stars, and we've talked about child stars up here a lot, end up being [ __ ] up.

  • 2:17:48

    Yeah. I mean, they and and not because they're bad people, but the industry does a thing to you. It's hard to be famous and loved and

  • 2:17:55

    adored and the bread winner for your family at the at an early age and be normal.

  • 2:18:01

    But Malcolm Jamal Warner is not just normal for a child star. He's just normal for any celebrity I've ever met.

  • 2:18:07

    I mean, he was cool. He wasn't cynical. He wasn't bitter. Um, he was generous.

  • 2:18:13

    He was kind. Um, you didn't have to be super famous for him to [ __ ] with you. Um, he was just a dope dude with um with

  • 2:18:21

    a great spirit. And even, you know, and he had other roles besides Theo. Obviously, we know him from comedy. We

  • 2:18:26

    know him from, you know, all kinds up to even suits, you know what I mean? And and and he had these amazing roles and

  • 2:18:32

    these amazing people, but he was also an artist. He was a poet. He was a thinker. He was a reader. We used to talk a lot about like the elections and we were

  • 2:18:38

    going back and forth about this Kamla election and even afterward we would check in and he always

  • 2:18:44

    there was an optimism and a and a hopefulness in him a buoyancy I like to say that people don't see. I mean even

  • 2:18:49

    in what you talked about the idea of smiling and he's often said there's always something to smile about in life. He just had a way of Yeah. There's just

  • 2:18:56

    a beauty in him and my heart goes out to him because we lost one of the great ones and my heart goes out to his

  • 2:19:01

    family. He lost or his his you know obviously he's leaving a a wife dying is one thing

  • 2:19:07

    dying on your family vacation that is a totally different ball game.

  • 2:19:13

    It is said that he was just going for a quick swim by himself and his wife after an hour had

  • 2:19:20

    passed had alerted the authorities saying something may be wrong and they found him about 100 to 200 ft from

  • 2:19:27

    Yeah. with the and and and listen man listen listen I can't swim so you know I

  • 2:19:34

    speak from a whole different perspective but when you travel those water that

  • 2:19:39

    those that water is current it's different yeah I kept seeing people oh black people need to learn how to swim this

  • 2:19:44

    ain't a swimming this has nothing to do of the entire ocean going against you

  • 2:19:51

    with a wave or current that is 5 6 700

  • 2:19:56

    ft hide depending on where you at. That's that's extra. But it's pulling No, it's not the waves. It's the

  • 2:20:02

    current. So you jump in right here, that [ __ ] is pulling you down here mad quick. And now you can't get back.

  • 2:20:07

    Yeah. You can't swim back up there. And anytime I've been to Cabo, that

  • 2:20:13

    water is so aggressive out there. They keep people on the beach 24 hours because people go out there and get

  • 2:20:20

    missing and lose their life and so forth and so on. So they keep people out there to say,

  • 2:20:26

    "Hey, no, no matter how attractive this water looks, do not come over." That's scary, bro. That's scary.

  • 2:20:32

    But I mean, if you going to [ __ ] co Where was that? Costa Rica. Going to Costa Rica. Costa Rica. You tell your wife and your kids, "Hey,

  • 2:20:38

    I'll be right back. I'll be back for breakfast. Give me right back. Give me 30 minutes." No, but and that [ __ ] is different.

  • 2:20:43

    God, that [ __ ] is different. As a 54 year old and he might have been a good swimmer,

  • 2:20:49

    right? That's the thing. He might have been a great swimmer, fam. I'm sure he's mother nature is different. Don't matter out

  • 2:20:56

    there. Yeah, mother nature is different. Like only 50 get one of them bungalows.

  • 2:21:01

    And God is different. It's your time to go. It's your time to go. If you don't go in the ocean, then they'll [ __ ] find another way for you

  • 2:21:07

    to go when it's time. I think the thing we learned uh yesterday and today and tomorrow and

  • 2:21:12

    probably for the next upcoming weeks is how adored he was. You know, I mean, I

  • 2:21:17

    think you learn that people were I watched people who aren't in our culture be surprised

  • 2:21:23

    at how upset and distraught people were. Like I wasn't surprised cuz we all grew up

  • 2:21:30

    loving him. But I I don't think the outsiders understood that cuz I people were commenting, "Damn, people really cared about." Yeah, [ __ ] Like,

  • 2:21:36

    yeah, but back to your earlier point, when we lose a cultural icon like that, I'm not really looking toward what other

  • 2:21:42

    people are thinking or doing. That's true. That's true. black people that I know of all ages. Everybody

  • 2:21:48

    because if you a child [ __ ] your mom is in the kitchen with a little boohoo like, "Oh shit." Yep. Like, yeah, that was we all we all boss.

  • 2:21:55

    Fam the It hit different reason. The show was so great because and this is a good thing and a bad thing about

  • 2:22:01

    the child stars, fam. I don't give a [ __ ] what other role he ever was going to take.

  • 2:22:07

    That nigga's Theo. Theo. Yeah, that's Denise. That's Sandra. And that's

  • 2:22:12

    Rudy. I don't give a [ __ ] what happens, fam. That nigga's Theo. And that's how pivotal and important that show was for

  • 2:22:18

    us when we were kids. Yeah. Like he can't escape Theo. You know what I'm saying? And And that's

  • 2:22:24

    crazy. If you going to be locked into a role, that's the one that Nobody wants

  • 2:22:29

    came across the ticker like like Kobe. Yeah. Yeah. That's how it felt. It was real.

  • 2:22:34

    When Kobe came across that [ __ ] we was playing. Yeah. We was playing like n

  • 2:22:40

    phone. The phone's wing. Yo, bro. Yeah, right. Kobe jumped off that [ __ ] helicopter

  • 2:22:45

    with the baby with with Right. Right. Right. They find that [ __ ] We was like, "Yo, they going to find Kobe down there with a broken leg out there in the desert.

  • 2:22:52

    Yo, that's how we found. My heart goes out to his family, his children, his wife

  • 2:22:57

    like listening to him on Mel's pod, just like just hearing him." That was the last interview. I don't know if you knew that.

  • 2:23:03

    I I still don't know that. That was the last interview. I know it was one of the last interviews and he dropped a whole

  • 2:23:09

    lot of He dropped some [ __ ] on there. I mean, I know we got our I mean, but he dro he dropped some [ __ ] on there. Um,

  • 2:23:16

    just to hear the stories of uh how his uh dad named him and how his dad had him

  • 2:23:22

    [ __ ] reading certain literature at a certain age when all the other kids was outside like his story got deep. This

  • 2:23:28

    morning I was in a rabbit hole with all his poetry like like

  • 2:23:34

    that it just hurts. It just hurts. And again, any death from 40 to 60,

  • 2:23:42

    that's the I pay a lot more attention to now. Same. Like honestly, when I first heard about

  • 2:23:48

    it, it kind of he passed away swimming, right? And so

  • 2:23:55

    he passed away. It's It's a tragic thing, but I was thinking more along the lines of some physical ailment.

  • 2:24:02

    Mhm. At 54. That's that's that's like seeming like the sweet spot that people are

  • 2:24:07

    going nowadays from heart attacks and strokes and sugar and all of these other things in the in the early 50s, late

  • 2:24:13

    40s, people are checking out. Well, that's how I know I'm all [ __ ] up because of course, as shocking as the

  • 2:24:20

    news was, after it passed for a second, I was so happy that, you know, you read accidental drowning and we start

  • 2:24:27

    thinking say I rewarded it. start thinking. But I was so happy once the story came out

  • 2:24:32

    that it really just sound like freak out what it sounds like. Yeah. See, that one [ __ ] when the story

  • 2:24:38

    came out, it [ __ ] me it [ __ ] me up even more cuz I'm just thinking about

  • 2:24:45

    that feeling in that moment when you you you mother you know. Yeah. You know, you pull Yeah. You know

  • 2:24:52

    what I'm saying? And I'm on vacation with my family. I'm they I'm not going to make it back. Like I was reading that

  • 2:24:59

    and I was like, "Yo, just a matter." Oh, that's some [ __ ] Yeah. And I've had family friends that have

  • 2:25:05

    died uh out of the country and sometimes dying out of the country makes it tough

  • 2:25:13

    with the laws to get the body back. All of that stuff. Yeah. Getting the body back if you don't have

  • 2:25:18

    the finances. All of that [ __ ] starts to come into play. Customs paperwork and all of that.

  • 2:25:24

    Just having a nobody ever expects to go. So, I mean, of course, then you hope that people have their

  • 2:25:29

    their business in order. Yeah. Yeah.

  • 2:25:36

    Shout out to him, man. Rest in peace, brother. Thank you. Thank Thank you for your service. Thank

  • 2:25:43

    you for everything. Thank you for the example you set at that young age for a

  • 2:25:48

    kid at as a young age watching on the living room. Mhm. Uh TV. Mhm. and and we'll miss you and we love

  • 2:25:54

    you and this is a sad and dark time for not just fans because there was a lot of

  • 2:26:00

    white fans too but especially black people man I can't even think of too many names that when this happens

  • 2:26:08

    it's like a pause for everybody stopping so shout to Malcolm Jamal Warner man

  • 2:26:13

    again thank you gone too soon rest in peace we love you uh I am going to queue up some

  • 2:26:19

    outstanding while you do that I just want to clear something up I did misspeak um when we were speaking about Azie and I said um

  • 2:26:26

    dementia it was Parkinson's. Oh. Okay. So, I just want to clear that up. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it.

  • 2:26:33

    Let's see here. Again, if you want to see some of that uh Malcolm Jamal interview that we

  • 2:26:40

    played earlier, that should be on Mel Forest's YouTube. Uh check it out. High

  • 2:26:45

    and Bar one of his final interviews. Again, we miss you. We love you.

  • 2:26:50

    Prayers. Is this my shirt? Is this the shirt I

  • 2:26:56

    paid $30 for? Is this the shirt for the virtual

  • 2:27:06

    dancer?

  • 2:27:12

    Cockroach, you go. No, man. I think you should go. No, cockroach, go ahead, man. You got the tickets. Look, guys. Come on. I got to get back

  • 2:27:18

    inside. Cockroach, go ahead. Okay, see you.

  • 2:27:24

    That [ __ ] taught me a lesson. Good evening, Mrs. Banks. Mr. Banks.

  • 2:27:29

    Hey, to see the whole family spending time together. I thought that only happened on the Cosby Show.

  • 2:27:37

    I'm cut it off. All right. All right. All right. All

  • 2:27:42

    right. All right. What else needs our full attention? Um, let's see. Let's see. Let's see.

  • 2:27:50

    Brick, we go from this. You said you had a question you wanted to ask us. I do have a question, but I'm only going to ask it if y'all are going to be 100%

  • 2:27:57

    honest with me on these mics. Of course, I do. This question is pointless if y'all are

  • 2:28:02

    not going to be honest with all we do is tell the truth. All we do is tell the truth. Well, in that case, I'm going to ask you. Oh, then you have to ask the question

  • 2:28:08

    then, bro. Tell me the amount of times each of you has initiated with a woman. It's 11-11.

  • 2:28:16

    Zero. Come on. It's all right. Look. Come on. Come on. Come on. Don't look stupid. A couple of times. Come on. Come on. What's that mean?

  • 2:28:24

    11. Come on. Come on. Come on. How many times have you been the creator of

  • 2:28:32

    Oh, it's 11. Make a wish. Make a wish. Close your eyes.

  • 2:28:38

    I did it to my wife. I've definitely done that. Send a screenshot. I've done it, man. We just happen to be on the phone. Look at that. I'm 111.

  • 2:28:44

    Oh, I look I'll see the time next. What do that mean? I'm slow. Make a wish. You got like some jinx type [ __ ] like

  • 2:28:50

    it's 11-1ven. You don't know what 11-11 mean? I've never heard it before in my life. You Chris Brown out. Only Chris Brown.

  • 2:28:57

    Angel number. When it's 111, you [ __ ] make a wish. You don't tell anybody.

  • 2:29:02

    No. All you [ __ ] is [ __ ] We're straightening from the hood though. So that might be Well, that we don't know that. We don't

  • 2:29:07

    have that confirmed that y'all are straight and from the hood. But those facts have been converted.

  • 2:29:13

    You got it. That's why the times is important. In fact, they start factecking. You know what I mean?

  • 2:29:18

    Oh [ __ ] Can't just say I'm straightening from the hood. We going the found. Yeah. Yeah.

  • 2:29:23

    What time? New York Times. New York Times. New York. New York Times. Find them. Pick it up. Pick it. Pick it up at

  • 2:29:29

    Hudson News. They'll go find them. Yeah. Be careful. Be careful.

  • 2:29:35

    Uh, all right. Let's see. Let's see. All right. So, these [ __ ] lied on 111. No, we said nah. Me and Flip told the truth.

  • 2:29:42

    Yeah. Uh, old rappers outperforming young rappers. Uh, did anybody here get a chance to see the new secondary logo for

  • 2:29:48

    Range Rover that they just came out with? No. No. Where it's two Rs. It's an it's

  • 2:29:54

    an R over another R. Upside down. Like a R and then underneath it is a upside

  • 2:30:00

    down R. Okay. And this is a big deal because, you know, Range Rover is not I mean uh Range Rover has not changed their logo in

  • 2:30:06

    however many years. And this is a big deal because one of them other car companies recently changed their logo and it was trash and everybody has

  • 2:30:12

    killed them. Jaguar, wasn't it? Jaguar. Yo, this trash, too. This is trash. And that's why it's the talking point

  • 2:30:18

    now because people are like, "Why would Range Rover do something like that?" This [ __ ] look trash. This [ __ ] look like my daughter.

  • 2:30:23

    This [ __ ] look like the Pittsburgh Pirates logo of P and the P. It don't even look like R.

  • 2:30:29

    This [ __ ] is trash. Is it real? I'm looking on their website or on their um Instagram. I don't see

  • 2:30:34

    that [ __ ] nowhere. This [ __ ] is Oh yeah, this ugly. Oh yeah, it's ugly. This is real ugly.

  • 2:30:40

    Better than mine. Look, it's still trash. Yeah. I don't care how you sh It's trash. All right. So, y'all not [ __ ] with

  • 2:30:46

    that at all at all at all. I just wanted to ask. I just wanted to ask. Uh, let's see. Trump threatens yada

  • 2:30:52

    yada. How many times you [ __ ] M Jamal. That [ __ ] goofy. Does anybody care about cash out

  • 2:30:58

    citizen? I mean, I keep forgetting who this [ __ ] is. I don't know who you know the song.

  • 2:31:03

    I know the song. I was about to say high school. Cashing out.

  • 2:31:12

    That's the [ __ ] that got cashing out this girl. I'm cashing out.

  • 2:31:20

    Yeah, that's him. I guess he was cashing out. [ __ ] All I'm crying cuz he did all that [ __ ]

  • 2:31:26

    He did all that [ __ ] They offered him 25 and he turned it down. No deal. And he said, "No, cuz I want to have my day in court."

  • 2:31:33

    Well, sir, you have had it a couple days. I like I roll the dice and they offer me 25, too.

  • 2:31:38

    Yeah, for real. Until you get life. No, but life could be It don't got to be lifeability of parole.

  • 2:31:46

    25 is very different than life. It's some consecutive time on there. It's like So, I'm going to read the

  • 2:31:51

    charges. Tell me. Tell me. Let me do that. Give me 9 million of them. Yeah. Yeah. Let me All right. Give you a little bit more

  • 2:31:56

    context. Yeah. Cuz it's think he could beat it. All right. Yeah. No, I didn't say that. You know, you stay right there. Don't worry. It's coming your way. I got you. It's coming your way right here. Okay.

  • 2:32:03

    I'm sad if they offer you 25 years. My man beat them.

  • 2:32:09

    Just listen. Count one violation of Rico. It ain't take them traffic tickets to trial. You want to take something to tri

  • 2:32:22

    say whatever, boy. He went to Rikers and paid that money. [ __ ] he wasn't going to trial.

  • 2:32:28

    I went to trial. Go ahead. Oh [ __ ] No, I'm with Ish on that. Ish is also is 63 years old. If if they give him 25,

  • 2:32:36

    that is life. You might as well just roll the dice. Yeah. So you might as roll the dice. You ain't got [ __ ] to lose. If I'm anything over 50, I'm I'm Don't do that. Cuz this morning I

  • 2:32:42

    started doing math. I was like, damn, I got 15 more summers. So I'm 16. Damn, that ain't a lot.

  • 2:32:49

    You got to be lit. I keep sitting, oh, summer's trash. Bring on the fall. I was doing that math, too. But then I realized

  • 2:32:54

    I got 11. I'm 40. Real [ __ ] I'm 41. And if I make it to 80, I'm just

  • 2:33:00

    going to do this all again. You know what I'm saying? Like that's a lot of [ __ ] time. It'll go faster obviously than the first 40.

  • 2:33:06

    No, that's white privilege to to to think like he already at 80. 80 is a real thing.

  • 2:33:11

    We count on 60. You be comfortable. They they've been killing us. Hey, you won't make it to 21. You won't. Oh, you

  • 2:33:16

    definitely won't be 30. Oh, you're not making it to 40. 50 is our 80. You'll be comfortable going at 80. You

  • 2:33:22

    say, "Well, who wouldn't be comfortable going to 80?" Yeah. I mean, I I don't want to go at 80. Yeah. My dad lived to be

  • 2:33:28

    90 is 35 more years of lit. My family's old as [ __ ] so I expect to go to 90. 90 is kind of my my magic

  • 2:33:33

    number, but I know you can't bank on 90, but I'm I'm unreasonably hopeful for 90,

  • 2:33:39

    but if I was looking at jail time, I would be doing them normal averages, and I'd be like, look, I probably we get to 60 70. I'm not taking 25 years. I don't

  • 2:33:47

    I don't want to leave jail at 70. Yo, 20 more years or 65. That is nuts to me.

  • 2:33:53

    Yeah, that'll come quick. Yeah, that [ __ ] sober like a [ __ ] I got to I got to have another baby out

  • 2:33:58

    these [ __ ] I got to do it to him one more time. They think they think I'mma just go peacefully.

  • 2:34:04

    Nah, I got to drop one demon on.

  • 2:34:09

    Why are you like this? I got to I got to Somebody got to torment this [ __ ] while I'm so [ __ ]

  • 2:34:14

    could be like, "Wait, who? Who's it?" Oh, that makes sense. They got to do that. Come on, Mark.

  • 2:34:21

    Nah, it's unacceptable. Please. cuz I've seen your kid. Yo, terrorist terror in society.

  • 2:34:28

    Yo, he embarrasses me. If I was doing If I was doing 20, I ain't going to lie. Only

  • 2:34:33

    if I was doing 30 million a year, I have another one, too. That's true. You got another one on the way. So, what you waiting on?

  • 2:34:39

    I'm not doing 30 million a year. But what But what did the hoodies do? You got another one. Not 30 million. But what did

  • 2:34:45

    Not 30 million. You got that part. But what's the hoodies do? I seen the records. Of course. We saw

  • 2:34:53

    three right now. Hey, let's call somebody that can get to the bottom of this. Call right now. [ __ ]

  • 2:34:59

    You don't play. Yeah.

  • 2:35:04

    Yeah, my [ __ ] I like that about you. You can tell a [ __ ] that's been to long, [ __ ] That's my people, man. I

  • 2:35:09

    don't give a [ __ ] through you, [ __ ] She my people. I love get to that part of the people. I ain't speak to a while.

  • 2:35:16

    He do the head [ __ ] too. That boy right there, that's my man. Yo, come out with me one time. Please,

  • 2:35:23

    please. Yo, please just one time in Atlanta this one time for the old time sake. So these [ __ ] can know who we

  • 2:35:28

    Hey yo. Hey yo, Edge, don't eating orange pills, please. Oh no, no, no. He can't come out with me. Are you going to behave like that

  • 2:35:33

    again? Eat that [ __ ] Eat that [ __ ] before you get the All right, never mind. Never mind. Get all that citrus in you before you get

  • 2:35:39

    the citrusy. This [ __ ] crazy. Do that [ __ ] when you get back in the

  • 2:35:44

    white. [ __ ] eating pills in the club. That [ __ ] is fire. That's crazy. I didn't see nothing wrong with it. He just doing it for swallowing

  • 2:35:52

    orange pills. Still bagging the white. White [ __ ] is weird. Yo, look. White [ __ ] White

  • 2:35:57

    [ __ ] don't give a [ __ ] what you doing. Hot black. Hot black funk at the bar just tossing some orange pills out.

  • 2:36:03

    This [ __ ] is a fool. Fire. God damn.

  • 2:36:09

    Sappire. You must have had fun this this weekend in the Bronx, huh? Oh man. I had a good time me and my baby.

  • 2:36:14

    Yeah. Had a good time with me and my baby. Yeah, man. We had a good time before we got there. We have a good time.

  • 2:36:21

    Okay. Ready for the ready for your trip? Yeah. Yeah. I'm ready. I'm ready to go.

  • 2:36:27

    Let's see. Let's see. Let's Let's see what these kids are up to. You bought some new Hoochie Daddy swim trunks?

  • 2:36:32

    No, I got enough swim trunks. I ain't buying nothing new, but let's see what's going on. Let's see. You said we old ones though. You said

  • 2:36:39

    last year. Oh, I'm off of that. I'm off of that. Tight now. It's tight now. Uhhuh. Well, yeah. It's definitely It's not

  • 2:36:45

    that I'm trying to be bougie. I can't fit some of them [ __ ] Some of them [ __ ] fit a little I mean up your alley. The little leopard joints I bought from

  • 2:36:51

    the Montreon 3 years ago. I tried throw them on yesterday. I wasn't a cheetah. I

  • 2:36:57

    wasn't a cool girl. I wasn't none of that [ __ ] with leopards.

  • 2:37:05

    I was trash out there in my new You going You going to be head ass out there? My My girl is my girl. So I ain't going

  • 2:37:12

    to have no choice. Her middle name is head ass. On vacation fire though on vacation. Head we just had that com we just had that

  • 2:37:18

    combo yesterday. Like yo what we we doing? All right. Cool. We doing we going to do it. I just want to see what these [ __ ]

  • 2:37:24

    kids look like. And I got a surprise for him. I got a surprise. I think I told y'all

  • 2:37:29

    I can't say it on here cuz surprise, but got a little surprise for him. We'll see. I want to see what the kids is like out of town. Every time I talk to Trey,

  • 2:37:36

    well last three times I talked to Trey, his mom is in the background right there too. Like, oh, why you making that face

  • 2:37:44

    a good way? He looks so disgusting. We ain't spoke in 30 years, so I mean, [ __ ] Yo, when that baby mom get on the

  • 2:37:50

    phone that you ain't spoke to in 27 years and still, oh my god. Well, you can take that phone out. But

  • 2:37:56

    she's so happy to hear from me. She keep my baby safe out there, girl. Shut up. You know what it is, [ __ ] You know

  • 2:38:04

    what it is. It's the dad you told wouldn't be here. It's the It's the dad you told him was

  • 2:38:09

    evil, girl. Yep. We go to Turks. Oh, people they say those [ __ ] so stupid,

  • 2:38:16

    man. Yo, dads that's going through it in your co-parenting situation, just be patient.

  • 2:38:21

    In 26 years, she'll see it your way. She'll see it your way. 26 years

  • 2:38:28

    or not. Or if your kid is bad early and she calling you when he about 12, 13, like,

  • 2:38:33

    "You better come get this little badass nigga." Yeah, I told you. Keep thinking you could raise my jeans

  • 2:38:39

    without me. I knew them jeans would kick in sometimes.

  • 2:38:45

    Hey, them jeans would send your number through my call ID at some point now. Maybe not at 4,5 and six.

  • 2:38:50

    Jord Ash worked their way back. But yeah, come come 10, 11, 12. It won't just be a single mom type of thing.

  • 2:38:57

    So it took you How was that though? The conversation you don't mind having a lot of you don't hold grudges, right? Or you

  • 2:39:03

    let it go because you can able to have a conversation with her. Ain't no grudge to hold. You did the best best job in the world of raising my

  • 2:39:09

    raising my oldest boy. True. But that that that mentality first my oldest that mentality comes from

  • 2:39:16

    you know beef. You understand what I'm saying? Like that mentality comes from maturity cuz

  • 2:39:22

    you I'm pretty sure you wasn't saying that a couple years years ago. Hell no. It all comes from maturity.

  • 2:39:28

    It all comes from maturity. In my 30 in your 30s you think, "Oh, [ __ ] this.

  • 2:39:35

    Oh, I'm not um I'm not raising a child through the court system and all the [ __ ] you think in your 30s. And it's

  • 2:39:40

    like and at 45, it's like, oh, I was bugging the [ __ ] out. If I go do what I was supposed to do and she do what she's supposed to do, then

  • 2:39:46

    we should be able to do what we supposed to do, whether we was best friends for 25, 26 years or not. So, I'm happy to hear from

  • 2:39:53

    her. I'm happy that she's married. I'm happy that she's happy that we could do things like this. Like, in your 40s, it's it's time to be happy

  • 2:40:00

    about [ __ ] Yeah, sure. When you make as much money as me,

  • 2:40:06

    I can't complain. They said money don't buy happiness though. So that you can still make that

  • 2:40:11

    money and not be happy. Exactly. Well, that's true. But I got a lot of people in my life.

  • 2:40:16

    I see. It's going to freeze. Freeze. Freeze energy different today, boy.

  • 2:40:21

    Them [ __ ] ain't shopping at the right store. Happiness

  • 2:40:26

    going to back happiness. It's a special.

  • 2:40:32

    Yeah. Yeah. Move a move a library book. Yeah. Go back there. They got happiness back there.

  • 2:40:37

    All colors back there. Happiness ain't even as expensive as they they make it

  • 2:40:43

    out to be. Hey, happy that it ain't a lot. I believe that it ain't a lot.

  • 2:40:49

    How much happiness cost? You think? Well, a Target trip for my girl while I'm in the crib chilling. Oh, that's the best.

  • 2:40:55

    Send her to Target real quick. Let me get alone time. Hey, let me see what else I need. I can get

  • 2:41:00

    happiness for under $500. How long? Short. Now you talking short. A

  • 2:41:08

    band-aid. A temporary band-aid. A little temporary band. If you little temporary band-aid, what would be the yearly amount

  • 2:41:14

    for that you think that you would need to make to be happy like consistently

  • 2:41:20

    happy? Listen. Oh, that's a good question. This is this is this is a great conversation. In real life, I think that you should be able to

  • 2:41:26

    get your happiness for free. True. That's not true. But in this conversation, I believe that. But in this conversation, I believe that too.

  • 2:41:31

    Yeah, I believe that. Me, too. Should. Yeah. Should should. But for the shallow bane people

  • 2:41:38

    out there, you about to eat. I don't think it cost that much. Given your given who you are right now, and should's off the table, what's the

  • 2:41:44

    number? Listen, do I have an ancillary 2500 to spend every week?

  • 2:41:50

    Mhm. Cuz that's 25 and 25 is fine. How many weeks is that? 10 12.

  • 2:41:57

    You said an ancillary 10 grand. Yeah. So I'm talking about an ancillary about 20 years. So you still got to pay all your bills.

  • 2:42:03

    You talking about ancillary. So you're talking like being able to go half a mill year. You would be able to

  • 2:42:09

    No, that's what I'm saying. What do you think, [ __ ] I was happy homeless. But since we up I was homeless and was not

  • 2:42:14

    happy. I was the [ __ ] you was lying. [ __ ] you saying. I ain't lying. I'm not. I've been around you when you wasn't

  • 2:42:20

    homeless. We was having some hell parties. We wasn't broke. Yeah, we had we

  • 2:42:26

    You weren't the happiest, my [ __ ] We had a good time, bro. We had a great time, bro. I ain't going to lie. [ __ ] was happy. I had more fun, bro. Hold on.

  • 2:42:32

    I had more fun, bro. [ __ ] was happy. I had more fun, bro. This [ __ ] may look different now.

  • 2:42:38

    You by yourself in the room. Happiness. Oh, happy fractions. Happiness. I'm

  • 2:42:45

    talking about me, too. I wasn't happy homeless, but I was happy broke. Thank you, E. Yeah, I take it back. Yeah.

  • 2:42:51

    Happy broke. Yeah, I was happy. I was hella happy. real happy, bro. If I had enough money to pay the bills and do

  • 2:42:56

    like maybe So he said, "Pay the bills and have an extra 2500 a week." [ __ ] the [ __ ] was happy when they couldn't pay the bill.

  • 2:43:02

    I was just looking for my trick with him, his bills might be butlers and mansion fees. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. Like

  • 2:43:08

    like if if I think if I was at I think if I was at

  • 2:43:15

    Be careful. You know, you know they listening. 1.5 a year consistent. I think I think

  • 2:43:22

    I'll be straight. I'm about to say that. How many years you got to make that for that to be consistent? No. If I was consistently at one point,

  • 2:43:29

    I'd be I'd be fine. You'd be happy. I'd be more than mortified.

  • 2:43:35

    I don't think so about I don't think that about you. Yeah. I would cuz you going to want you going to get tired of that

  • 2:43:40

    1.5 and want more and then start. Well, not if not at 50. [ __ ] you make 1.5, we back to cheating,

  • 2:43:46

    [ __ ] No, you we No, we I speak we don't speak what we do. [ __ ] you talking.

  • 2:43:51

    I'm telling you. All right. All right. Now, what's the number? I'm telling you what. Look at me now. What's the number? You said you make 1.5.

  • 2:43:56

    If you make 1.5, we back. What's the B? What's the B? What's the What's the base number for you?

  • 2:44:02

    It's 1.5 or is it No. So now what's that now? M. What's that number,

  • 2:44:07

    [ __ ] 350. 350 grand a year. Are you back at

  • 2:44:13

    cheating? Chill. No, I'm not saying that. That's what I'm asking. No. No. No money. Just saying.

  • 2:44:18

    But we all over the place. Hold on. But I 350,000 350 is your number to be happy. You're saying I I don't believe me either. But

  • 2:44:24

    1 1.5 flip. What's your number to be happy? Yeah.

  • 2:44:30

    Yeah. The times got to verify happy now. Yeah. See, this is why everybody can't just say what they want to the times. The

  • 2:44:35

    times No, that's what I'm saying. 350, bro. To Okay. It's not enough. You can't tell me what's enough for my

  • 2:44:41

    happiness, though. Like five. What does What make What does your happiness consist of? That's an internal

  • 2:44:46

    question, bro. cuz everybody happiness. Yo, how much money? See, we got I'm keep wanting more though. That's

  • 2:44:51

    what I'm saying. So the happiness the it's going to be temporary. I don't need that.

  • 2:44:56

    It don't take a lot for me. Yo, bro, I'm telling you, like even in my older age, bro, the things that I would normally do with money, I don't do

  • 2:45:04

    it. It don't take the money. No. So, what I'm saying is what I'm dog at

  • 2:45:09

    certain numbers, I could travel as much as I want. I could travel in a decent manner. My house will be fine.

  • 2:45:15

    So, what's that number? I just told you, he said 1.5 for him. Yeah. If I'm at 1.5 or two, somewhere in that

  • 2:45:22

    range, I'm fine, bro. That That's the point. The thing is, what makes you happy? For me, the happiness comes from the peace,

  • 2:45:27

    like not having to stress about certain things. My my daughters will be in the schools that I want to put them in. Um, you know

  • 2:45:34

    what I mean? Like, I can have a quality car. My girl got a quality car. We live in a neighborhood that we live in the

  • 2:45:40

    neighborhood that I want to live in. Get that money now. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's my point. I just I want you to

  • 2:45:46

    get it without having to go back to the block. Why you not happy now? It's family to me. I'm not happy. See, I'm saying I would be content. Like

  • 2:45:52

    happiness and contentment are two different things. They're two different things. And

  • 2:45:57

    yeah, right now I'm content. I'm not fulfilled. Let me ask a question. Because there's still gaps in my life

  • 2:46:03

    that I want to create. Yo, don't say that again. Yo, does everybody in here know what makes them happy? My girl.

  • 2:46:08

    My I think a lot of people really don't know what make you happy. That's true. my girl.

  • 2:46:13

    [ __ ] I'm looking I'm looking up school prices and them shits are a monster. Oh, I told you them [ __ ]

  • 2:46:19

    Huh? Who am I? No. Yeah, that the house prices are a monster. Yeah. And taxes

  • 2:46:25

    are another monster. That's King Kong and gossip [ __ ]

  • 2:46:30

    Hey, you can be you could you could be happy, bro. Monair taxes are a mortgage. You could be happy for a while, but then

  • 2:46:36

    when you start to experience new things, you start to come across new things, you're going to want more.

  • 2:46:41

    But I would want that in the form of experiences. It don't got to necessarily be material [ __ ] Yeah. Some But some some people to

  • 2:46:47

    Flip's point are never happy. Like you get that house, right? Then you go to the homies house like, "Oh, that [ __ ] got he got to pull." Oh

  • 2:46:53

    [ __ ] I need one of them. Oh, he got to pull her. You got to And that would be to me in my See,

  • 2:46:58

    that's that right there is a trick, too. Like I've gone house searching and I've

  • 2:47:03

    went to just cuz I like to not cuz I can afford it, but just cuz I like to see [ __ ] I've gone to see the

  • 2:47:09

    20 and 25 and $30 million. Believe it or not, some of them I walk out of there saying, "Thank God I don't own this

  • 2:47:16

    [ __ ] waking up. That [ __ ] would be a headache. It would ruin life.

  • 2:47:22

    It would make everything miserable. Work, my dayto-day looking at all this [ __ ] This is too much overhead, too

  • 2:47:29

    much. Nobody needs it." But you don't know that if you're just on some [ __ ] The [ __ ] takes the fantasy. this year.

  • 2:47:36

    The one I the one I sat this year and I as you said, "Yo, did you see this [ __ ] house?" You know what I'm talking about, right? I'mma see it.

  • 2:47:42

    Yeah. It's that Well, he's also made I I know. I know. But I'm just saying

  • 2:47:47

    you got to be careful to keep and stick to the rivers and that we used to. Yeah, bro. And again, if I had a house

  • 2:47:52

    and my house was 5,500 ft, 5,000 ft, that's more than enough house for me.

  • 2:47:59

    Same, [ __ ] I saw the interview you did in the in the kitchen that night.

  • 2:48:04

    [ __ ] when you give the lady the nickname smiling downstairs in the kitchen, the lady

  • 2:48:12

    watch a fool. Yo, no. I'm that like that's more than enough for me. But don't think I don't think I don't

  • 2:48:17

    think I'm going to be honest listening. I don't think I would be happy. I'm happy with my family. I'm happy.

  • 2:48:23

    They they bring me stability, but it the the the fact that I I always want more and I I have to go get it.

  • 2:48:29

    See, I don't think it it causes me to It's not happiness for me. I used to feel like that and I

  • 2:48:35

    don't anymore. And I realized, you know, you know what I realized that honestly is this? It's the house thing.

  • 2:48:40

    It's when I started to go house hunting and it was like, okay, I can afford a house like this,

  • 2:48:45

    but I don't want that. I don't want that. Or I'll pay this, but I'm not going to get the biggest house I can find for

  • 2:48:50

    that amount. I want to get the house that makes me And it was at that moment that I felt like I'd matured cuz there was a time where I would have felt insecure about that

  • 2:48:56

    or I would have felt like I need it. Now I was like, believe in that idea for your happiness, your soul. I'm going to keep it real with you. Even Even cars and [ __ ] I just don't look at

  • 2:49:03

    them the same no more. Me neither. I don't look at cars the same. I used to I got clothes out that I don't

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    I'm a sneaker head. I buy sneakers all the time. But outside of that, bro, I don't really want much.

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    Yeah. Your mother changed, bro. Yeah.

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    So, if you go through depression 1.5, we cheating in Brazil, too.

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    No, no, no, no, no, no. We beat her. We out. We cheating foreign. I beat them.

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    We out of here. Little Croatia. Uhuh. Your girl going to be like, I beat the [ __ ] out of you, too.

  • 2:49:41

    He said Croatian. Yeah. Go right to the No, I was just going to the He going to go with his white ass.

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    He got black, [ __ ] Boy, you was saying

  • 2:49:52

    if if if you go through depression, happiness is what? Dormant at that moment. You know, some sometimes in

  • 2:49:59

    everybody's situation is different with depression. Sometimes it's chemical. Sometime it's not about your material circumstances. Some people have like uh

  • 2:50:06

    things that are triggered by things and sometimes mine is. Sometimes it's seasonal. Uh sometimes it's triggered by like my

  • 2:50:12

    winter stuff happens because of things that have happened to me in the winter time. Um but it's not about what's going on in my life. Got it.

  • 2:50:17

    Like there's nothing that I can get that would make that better. I don't want more. I'm not like, "Oh, if I had more money, if I had more. It's not that for me. I'm I'm generally pretty like I

  • 2:50:24

    don't do." So there's no so there's nothing that that can be done to make that that's what you're saying like no material things material the the three

  • 2:50:31

    things my I think I said this before the three things that my uh therapist always recommends and others do often for

  • 2:50:37

    depression is like exercise therapy and medicine he says you should do like two of those three

  • 2:50:43

    things and so for me I don't really like the drugs so exercise and therapy so exercise and therapy and talk therapy

  • 2:50:49

    for me are like the two things and when I'm doing that I'm generally okay now sometimes things will happen and we all

  • 2:50:54

    have stress depressors, but in general, those are the things that that keep me me. I mean, speak and speaking to you, I

  • 2:51:00

    realized that that that that sometimes I went through forms of depression or anxiety, but I think I just fight it

  • 2:51:06

    differently. Yeah. I think that the environment I came from, it was sort of looked down upon if

  • 2:51:13

    you acknowledge that. So, I fight it differently. I'm just in one of my moves. You might not afford it, but but

  • 2:51:18

    it's not it's not a mood, [ __ ] I'm going through something. It's not a mood. Like if I could wake up and just be mad at

  • 2:51:23

    my family or be mad I don't want to talk to that's that's it's not a mood you're affecting people

  • 2:51:29

    you might not have fought it like you said where you came from you couldn't allow it to happen so you just kind of suppressed it

  • 2:51:35

    that's not really fighting it though that's just like but it overhearing but that link to adulthood

  • 2:51:41

    yes but what I mean is that like when I speak to Mark and Mark is explaining the certain things he went

  • 2:51:46

    through Mark and I had a conversation I'm like okay got caugh you then I started to I've experienced that too. Yeah. I felt

  • 2:51:53

    that way, but I handled it different. Meaning like I didn't

  • 2:51:58

    speak to somebody. I just like, man, I want I let a couple of days I may go take a shower. You know what I'm saying? But

  • 2:52:03

    shout out to you. Yeah, but that's that's that's a journey and we all got to get there. So, I tell everybody out there as we wrap this like, yo, just

  • 2:52:09

    like see a therapist. Do what you got to do. Find some way to find joy and happiness.

  • 2:52:14

    I just of the opinion that, you know, we say you can't find joy in money, but also it's really hard to find joy when

  • 2:52:20

    you don't have any. A little Roman talk. Got you. Yo, I don't know, man. My wife came. Yo, first of all, I I

  • 2:52:27

    should have never let my wife watch this podcast, much less reach out to y'all, man. First of all, she walked around last week. She smacked my ass three

  • 2:52:33

    different times with hoam. I was like, I [ __ ] hate this [ __ ]

  • 2:52:39

    man. You [ __ ] haters. Yo, t-shirts coming next week. And she thinks it's the funniest [ __ ]

  • 2:52:45

    coming next week. Oh, wait. You got Whoa. You could do that. Why your business, [ __ ] You got your t-shirt? The ham

  • 2:52:51

    t-shirts. Of course. I'm buying her. Show this [ __ ] [ __ ] we can't keep putting out these shirts

  • 2:52:56

    at the same time. Your shirt is coming when they really They really already here,

  • 2:53:03

    but it's okay. But they dropping next week. No, they they out. They dropped already. Oh, thank God. Oh yeah.

  • 2:53:12

    [ __ ] stupid. Yo, them old them old [ __ ] [ __ ] n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n n [ __ ] Al Green one them [ __ ] Pam will get

  • 2:53:18

    you, man. I'm telling you. I got to call the times back if you was dropping the ham shirt. How much you made now off the that's that hoodies and

  • 2:53:24

    the hams and did you factor in like the the the the oneoffs

  • 2:53:30

    autism awareness and Oh yeah, breast cancer. Breast cancer, black history month, small people's month. You just had like

  • 2:53:36

    a for everything. Small people. What's the next mom? [ __ ] don't know one girl with

  • 2:53:41

    yo Joe. Why would you say that? This nigga's an idiot, bro. What's wrong with you? [ __ ] is a [ __ ] fool.

  • 2:53:47

    You can't say [ __ ] like that. All right, man. Good part. For sure.

  • 2:53:52

    Good part today, man. Squad right here. Boom. Boom. This the squad right here, man. This is so

  • 2:53:59

    stupid. It is man. This nigga's idiot. Why y'all get mad at me? Cuz every mad

  • 2:54:05

    mad I'm chilling. That speaks to his [ __ ] pinchion of being able to find talent.

  • 2:54:11

    Yeah, it does. Listen, I know y'all don't want that [ __ ] cuz y'all read the little article, whatever. Y'all want raises,

  • 2:54:17

    but I mean I mean [ __ ] What's wrong? Some of us can't get can't can't get

  • 2:54:23

    raises contracts. Not if you locked in. Got to be locked in. Yeah, [ __ ] can't get raised.

  • 2:54:30

    If you wait a sec, if you would have waited a second, [ __ ] fixed. Yo, I got something for this [ __ ]

  • 2:54:35

    You got something for my brother. He He taught me well. [Music]

  • 2:54:40

    Hey, little Ray Charles for him. I mean, another another [ __ ] that was blind.

  • 2:54:48

    I mean, he was blind. Flip might have been blind when he signed.

  • 2:54:54

    Hey, [Laughter] that was good. Yeah, that was that was good. I was

  • 2:55:02

    blind, right? But now I can see I can see that [ __ ] I got I got lasic, [ __ ]

  • 2:55:10

    Yo, listen. If any of y'all if any of y'all want to prove how valuable you are to the company, quit in the middle of

  • 2:55:15

    the contract and just show your worth. I'll pay I'll pay if that trick works.

  • 2:55:22

    Hey, these are the songs that they play before something happened.

  • 2:55:28

    Listen, man. Keep us in your prayers. Yes, sir.

  • 2:55:34

    Lord knows we need to be there. Shout out to every legend that we have lost recently in the past few months. For

  • 2:55:40

    sure. Gone but not forgotten. We love you. We miss you and thank you for your service. Each and every one of y'all

  • 2:55:47

    again, man. Hey, let's go Rudy.

  • 2:55:52

    Yo, imagine being in a studio though in the 40s or 50s and coming up with this.

  • 2:55:57

    Hey, hey, Madd.

  • 2:56:03

    Yo, until next time, man. So happy y'all could be here with us. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there.

  • 2:56:10

    Until the next time we bid you a do farewell adio vista arvois so long or a simple head n

  • 2:56:16

    will suffice. Remember life is a series of moments and moments pass.

  • 2:56:23

    So, let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Lastly,

  • 2:56:29

    the baddies are insecure. The stagnant women want to travel and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol or you

  • 2:56:35

    might need it. Shout out to you [ __ ] out there that's not flossing, man. Get you the little new dental floss stick.

  • 2:56:42

    Clean the [ __ ] [ __ ] out that [ __ ] last night's dinner out your teeth, you dirty bastard. Got to get the water

  • 2:56:47

    pick. Yeah, I mean the order water pick. Shout out to Freeze. Got me that good water pick. Yeah, me too. Oh yeah, that's

  • 2:56:54

    right. Freeze got me the [ __ ] to feel good. The water pick, the nostril, nose, hair

  • 2:57:00

    shaver. I be in the bathroom shaving the [ __ ] out my nostrils, [ __ ] I feel 10 years

  • 2:57:06

    younger. I feel like it's when they put that Beijing on. It's your mark when they put

  • 2:57:12

    that dye on. [ __ ] you got Look, your new hair, new growth is grace.

  • 2:57:18

    Yo, look at this [ __ ] man. You got to stop that [ __ ] Mark. Yo, this nigga's a idiot. Yo, y'all hold it down out there. We'll be

  • 2:57:25

    back in the New York Times in five years, maybe less if prize picks come to play. Y'all hold it down. Until next

  • 2:57:31

    time, we love y'all. Rest in peace, Malcolm Jamal Warner.

  • 2:57:36

    Man, we love you. And Aussie. Yes, sir. And Aussie. Goddamn.

  • 2:57:44

    [Laughter] Enough. JBP JBP. Where would you be

  • 2:57:52

    without the JBP? Well, fold that up right now. Don't look

  • 2:57:57

    away now, [ __ ] Neutral.

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    [Music]