It's Gonna Take Me An Army

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Microphone check. What is this?

JB back to business. I guess right now we should start the

show. Wait, you not home building profiles on people? No.

No. Huh? You are. I mean, maybe not to the level of him, but you real profiles. Yeah,

I I do too. Of course you build profiles on people. Okay. You probably do it in your head. Don't

even realize it. Yeah. You don't you don't have a file cabinet, but Well, you don't know his head falls.

Ain't nothing going on. It's just and houses and money and houses and

hoodies. You got to start building profiles of

people. No, I don't. But actually that's a lie cuz he got my profile down to a tea and won't hesitate to let the world know about it on his broadcast

instantly. Don't play with me. I'm ready today. I'm ready today. Your profile? Yeah.

Let the world know about his profile. Me. All right. You got it, bro.

What's up? Last looks. This the squad right here. Full squad. This the squad right here. Uhoh.

You doing that [ __ ] again where you want me to reach for your stuff? It's right there. Take it. I can't. Oh [ __ ] Oh, this helps in distress. You

know, help her out. Miss help. She going to need She's looking for the help. Foul.

Mel, why you really need help? This is my bad arm hand. The baddies be needing help with like

the simplest of like yo baddies.

Yo, I love you talking about the simplest. Go homeboy. Send that by shorty.

Who's your It's the top. Oh. Oh, the Halle Berry joint.

We gonna get to that. That That almost caused caused a little kurfuffle earlier in your crib. No, not in my crib. We fighting about

something totally different. We We fighting about something totally different. And And I'm wrong. But nah,

it a it ain't the party fight no more, right? Party. Yo, your your your birthday party. No, no, no. Okay. All right. All right.

I'm glad you kind of got those out the way. No, no, no, no, no. I send the yo, I'm home text before I'm home.

How'd she know you're not home? Cuz if I sent it at 2:45 a.m., guess when what time she call?

2:45 a.m. I can't sleep. 2:45 a.m. Not this time. Through that.

Hey, I got caught last time answering while I was in the car. It caused a

month of stress. So this time I threw the

I was brushing my teeth. Hey, went to sleep. No, I'm in the car. I'm in the car at home. I know, but your lie should be I was

brushing my teeth. No. See, that's my point. I don't That's my problem. I don't compound the lie. Like, I I tell

you the truth. Always win. Oh, man. You tell the truth.

Yeah. This started with a lie. She She know what time it is. We've been together too long. She know if I'm not

answering that phone, then I ain't home. She know that. So, the beef is on the law then,

huh? Not to me. Yo, I mean sense

I agree with him. Not to me. Not to me. We over it. My baby is here flying up.

We doing Chris Breezy. We over it. So, I'm just shooting with the fellas. Shout out to you. But I totally disagree with that. Even

though she's right. Oh. Oh, you see his profile? Yeah.

Psychop serial killer. That's crazy. If you send if you send your partner, she

listening to this is right at the top. If you send your partner the I'm home

text, it's normally because y'all have had these talks and they want to know that you're home safe.

Mhm. You should not they don't give a [ __ ] about your safety. And that's the part they will never

home. That's the part they'll never admit. So, if this is purely about my safety,

then when I'm in the car headed home, even if it's 15 minutes before I'm there, and say I'm home, I'm letting you

know I've left the danger circumstance. I'm in the confines of my driver headed

home. That's when she said, "Oh, it could be a car accident." Oh, right. You

got the news. Hey, turn on the news then.

Ice, right? Yeah. Okay. Mhm. Yo.

Mhm. Why you just can't sit when I'm home? When I'm home? Because it's not about me being home

safe. So now you got some type of tracking system going on. Yeah. And if you have a tracking system going

on, then it's my duty to throw it off. But do you send home or does she say where you at? Question.

No, no, no, no. She don't say nothing. I say I'm home. You just say home when you're in. So you voluntically do it. I've done it

once before. We had a big fight about it. This time I did it again. And and this I dubbed the call. So we fought. Got it. Followup question.

Up at 2:45. The person waiting for you to get home. Shut up. That's why the text will wake

them up. The time zone. And that's why I know the you know I can't sleep. You know I'm in. Okay. So then I said something that I

wasn't supposed behind anyway. Right. Time. Guess what?

It don't matter if it's $9.99. You said I'm home safe. I don't think that gave you a right to

call me. you the right to call me is crazy. I don't think that that means that I see

what you said. Yo, I'm home. That's It ain't Oh, I was so

Hey, what the [ __ ] are you talking about after

you and Cory, bro? You see? That's it. That's it. That's it. My girl know I'm a weirdo. It's cool.

I'm not surprising the people I love with my thinking. No, at all. That's what I'll say at all.

So, she loved me. I love her. We good. We got over it because what are we really beefing about here? Like, I'm

alive. I thought that was the point, right?

I'm tough to be with. So, that means you got a top. But I'm the only one that brings his I'm tough to be with stories to the pot.

Y'all are like the meme that's going around where is uh the meme going around with the video where the couples and the

person saying, "Hey, this is me who does everything wrong." And this is my angel of a husband or wife. And they come out

with the ring camera over them with the uh with the ring light and that No, the ring light though is the and the long

white sheet and they come walking out. Y'all are like that. The ring light. Tell me about why y'all are tough to be with.

I think I'm pretty easy to I'm just stubbing. See, exactly. You got it. I'm just stubbing. You got it, big dog. Y'all watch P Wires. Mark, I told

y'all I'm stubborn. I'm a creative. That's it. What in the weight of your head says you stubborn anyway?

I'm walk I'm like Mark. What? What? Why you tough to be with? I'm a clown. Um he don't sleep.

Workaholic. Work too much. Uh messy. Um and I don't

my brain work different. So like things that make sense to me don't make sense to other people. So it makes communication hard.

Got it. Got it. Uh ish. My pleasure.

That's why he's tough to be with cuz he's a pleasure. Yeah. That the state of delusion that he's constantly in. Right.

One day he came up here and gave it up. Yo, when I'm home I could be doineering. So I don't say anything. You you you killed that day. That day that one day

you came to like really give it up and share with us the whole one day. I'm talking about about

not not the three and a half years. Just the one. No, I'm talking about the inner workings of you and your whiz. So you gave it on that day. So why now? It's

just I'm a pleasure. You're not doineering no more. I'm making a joke. Oh, I don't want to be serious as out. Flip. How about you?

What makes you tough to be with? Come on, let's start with a little therapy. I'm stubborn and ignorant and and I feel like I'm stubborn and ignorant and I

just feel like you're never home. I want No, I'm always home. I my family. I'm always home. I I just feel like

I'm not going to be forced to do anything you don't want to do. One, two, and I show love when the love

count to me. All right. All right. Why you don't laugh? This is crazy.

It's not for real. I sure want to count. To you outside, it counts. To the world, it counts. Even in the house, it counts.

But I'm I'm just stubborn, man. And on top of that, like, come on. I don't want to get too many details.

Mel Mel, what makes you tough to be with? Um, what's that thing called? Attachment

something. Um, whatever. That's what the baddies do, too. They meet you day one and want to be just all

under you, live with you, moving. Is that you? Are you are you clingy in relationships? No, I'm the opposite.

Uh distant. Okay. Yeah. So, it's like when I sense when I sense dangerous

you doing that again Mel didn't say nothing funny. Exactly. Stop laughing. They crack jokes

about laughing when Mel is talking. Sit back. Yo, stop laughing when I honestly

remotely. I'm riding with Mel now. You drink too hot to drink so fast. No, it's not. What happened me? I didn't hear what

when I feel some sort of threat or perceived threat or whatever, I chuck up

my deuces and bounce. Cardi B album title. [Laughter]

I can see that. Don't make me feel threatened. That's right. Okay. You can feel threatened at any moment. Make me feel Make me feel secure.

Yeah. Provide a safe space. Make me feel Yeah. Make me feel like I'm in a safe space. Make me feel like that. Yeah. Mhm.

So, yeah. That's what I've been working on. Being a safe space. Yeah, being a safe space for Mel or

Mel and women all over the world. Mel, did this feel like a safe space for you? Cuz I was watching on Friday

and it didn't look safe. Really? No. What happened? She was trying to tell a riveting story.

Oh, yeah. I'm walk back. Okay. About yo, don't come in.

That's all about the black magazines. What is it again? No, it was actually an important thing to tell. I was actually very

disappointed that she didn't get to tell that about the National Association of Black Journalist coverage. I was very disappointed I couldn't be at in

Cleveland. Yeah. I know, right? Next year it's in Atlanta. So, be lit.

Mhm. But Mark is one is is one of the main reasons why I went. I hit him up. I was like, "Shit again."

No, he did not. But I asked I asked his opinion and he was just like, "Yes, you

should go. You should go." I think I think a lot of us would benefit from You walked You walked away from the cabin that day.

Where did you Where did you take that call? It wasn't a call. I said, "Hey, Mark. Sorry to bother you. Quick question."

You turned that back. My Achilles backing up. Let me go ride the bike. No, y'all hear what she said. He only

responded with one word. He got that text out quick. Yes. Hey, double tap.

Quick response. Why are you telling Pizza Head? Yes.

[Laughter] Oh man. Holy [ __ ]

Hilarious. She She listen. It's early. Oh, it's early, man. No, but um ABJ is great and we should we

should support that. We should support black journalists, black media makers, black creatives, and they we're super

loved down there, you know. We're super loved that the Association.

Atlanta and then Houston then ain't going in the the journalist in Cleveland. I

I think it's good, man. It moves around different cities every year. So, next year is Atlanta and the

year after is is Houston. I think we should do a workshop or a class on podcasting for them. I'm thinking about uh going to take

journalism at NYU. I think that'd be dope. Psych.

They ain't see they ain't see the times. Journalism smiralism

and then they totally on me about who I said were like my idols. Idols both

they are like they are incredible women like in so many said those names like it was Mel Gibson

and Glattis Knight. No like it was Angela Basset and Tina Turner. stated my personal idols. My

personal idols. You know who else is an idol of mine? Anthony Bourdain. I love Anthony Bourdain. Bill Curtis. Like I

could go on and on. [ __ ] Uh John Douglas. You guys don't know who that is, right? Okay. Well, he's the guy who

started the behavioral science unit at Quantico, Virginia in FBI headquarters. It says more about them than you.

Huh? It says more about them than you. If they're laughing, you don't know the most prominent black journalist in America. It says they should. I know.

Maybe they should. I know. Yeah, man. Exactly. So anyway, I can see why I might not feel like a safe space to you.

Mhm. I'm glad you're back. Ah, not including you.

I gave including you. Okay. I gave myself some time. I get

I still got 40 minutes left. [Music]

it to see these fat ass pink arm teeny weeny

beta pricks with their ugly ass wives walk into this Mexican restaurant and

sit down smile and be friendly. I don't think you should be able to enjoy

anything but Cracker Barrel. Get your fat asses over to Cracker Barrel, but do

not participate in any of the [ __ ] that makes America cool. And what makes America cool is multi-ulturalism.

And if you want to triple Trump and you want to browbeat DEI and you want to browbeat gay people and you want to

browbeat black people as you've been doing for 400 years and you want to browbeat this generation of immigrants

that come over here and open up businesses earnestly pay their taxes. You want to demonize them and call them

rapists and felons and all this [ __ ] when the felon is the teeny weeny

mushroom [ __ ] piece Mc taco tits at the top of the ticket. I

have [ __ ] had it from top to bottom. White people that triple Trump should be banned, boycotted from enjoying the best

thing that America has to offer, which is multi-ulturalism. Get your fat asses out of the Mexican restaurant and get

your fat asses over to Cracker Barrel because nobody wants to see your [ __ ] smug ass teeny weeny pink arm big gut

around. Nobody wants to see that [ __ ] Nobody. We We up here, [ __ ]

[Music] Play my man intro. Yeah, please. Come on, man. Salute.

Salute the man. Salute the whole. Thank you, part

dick or something. Oh my god. Like this. Oh [ __ ] It's just when you put it all together,

it's just like lick my [ __ ] [ __ ] suck on my vlog. Lick my balls. Eat my

dick. The JBT the JBTV community read the JBTV community read some captions

from you that you wrote. Oh [ __ ] Wait, what?

Watch yourself. What captions? Nothing. All right.

Don't start with me. I'm just saying before we get to judging judgy judgy before we get to being judge

Judy around here. Judging the clock and see is it even noon?

Okay. What do you think? You think you think Dick ain't getting something new? I mean, I guess it is. I don't know.

No, you're such a damn Karen. Oh, man. Man, round of applause for the

best show in the universe. Round of applause for the best crew in the world. Let me get these drops out the way.

Y'all got real tipper on this thing for a second. Man, it's crazy. Just an observation.

She went see the Lord's Supper that time. Not fair. Not fair.

That was an attack on rap music. Yeah. Modarity and lyrics. Who was that?

Flip and mail. Mel Mel. What episode is this? 851. Welcome to episode 851.

That's right. That's it. Oh lord. Uh, welcome to episode 851 of the Joe Button podcast

brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Prize Price Fist Gang. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, happy to be here.

Host Joe Button here with some really amazing people. To my right, the beautiful, the legendary Melissa Ford in

the building. Next to her, Queens get the money. Queens flip in the building.

Next to him, W get the money. Big is in the building. Next to him, Big Freeze. Mr. Take it

Further himself. Next to him, Dark Lamont Hill. Our good brother Dr. Mark Lamont Hill back from vacation. He's

here with us. Big Parks is here. Myra's finest. Po is here. Cory is here. Erikson is here. Savon and Tiana are

here by remote last, but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys out there are here. How's everybody

doing, man? What's popping? Great. Good to see y'all. Good to see y'all. Mhm. How's it?

Yo, wake this [ __ ] room. Yo, we ain't starting like that. Wake this [ __ ] room up around here.

What's up? What's up? How you doing, man? I feel I feel like we're waiting with baited breath to hear

how Martha's life was. It was like I don't have any great story. Don't speak for me. I wasn't waiting

here [ __ ] Your pet is back. It's a good time. But I'm sure

his pet is back. Call a black man a pet. Sorry. Your fave. Your fave.

That [ __ ] not even the mood. It ain't too bad. She didn't mean

pizza. She didn't mean to call. Don't don't put in the roll of this.

She didn't mean to call you back. I did this to him. Oh, it's not. Got it. Got it. It's not at all. It's just an observation.

Well, you were my baby. Okay. All right. Well, Mark, tell Mark, what's up, man? I'm glad to be back, man. I missed

y'all. It was It was I need a vacation from the vacation. I know you are. You know, same. It was It was

You probably couldn't walk a foot without people. It was It was all of that. It was like it was bringing like a little a

three-year-old who frankly is a monster. That's what I wanted to know how it was with with with little man. And and I didn't know I've never been to

the venue before. I I don't that's not my lifestyle. So I don't I literally I didn't even

know how to do it. Like apparently you're supposed to like drive there, bring a boat, get a ferry, do all that [ __ ] Yeah, it's a lot. You can fly in.

I did fly in. I did fly in. I flew in on like a week's notice. That little airport. Yeah. So everything cost the arm and the

leg. You know, I'm underpaid, so I couldn't I could barely force the tickets. It was It was a piano sausages.

Yo, come on, Pierce. Yo, come on, Pierce. Step it up. Subscribe to that night school. You

Oh my god. Yo, I swear the people on the plane would have chipped in to pay for my ferry after my son got off that

flight. He tore that. It was the longest 35 minutes of my

life. Was that his first flight? That was I was I was about that was his first time flying. It was the worst

thing that happened to me last week and my friend died like

and we're sorry to hear that. What's wrong with you?

That's like this guy was awful. Did he have his headphones, iPad, his all of that his

I had in his A-R books everything for him. I I needed benadryil

stickers. I gave him everything. And he said, "Fuck that." She ripped the headphones out, threw them to the back aisle, dropped the iPad. Suddenly, he

don't like iPads no more. And he wanted to go up and down the It was See, that's the thing. You don't talk to

your friends about their kids. But yours is a He's a problem. He is a menace.

These these kids are [ __ ] bad. They a lot. He was a lie. And he decided that his

normal wake up wasn't good. He wanted to wake up at 5:00 a.m. every day. Oh. What time do you y'all typically wake up? Uh, I wake up at I wake up at 5

or 6, but to wake up before everybody else so that I can have some peace and freedom. But he decided, no, not this

time, not this week. So, we did that. I had my mother-in-law with me. My wife was there. You know, we did a lot of

beach stuff. That was cool. To your point, it's it's the bougiest place I've ever been. It's pretty bougie. It is the bougie place I've ever been.

And it's black month in the vineyard. So, it's it's like 80% black people there and everybody's trying to be seen. And

that's like the opposite of what I want to do. You know what I mean? So, like I went to the film festival. It was dope. Went to the opening reception. It was

cool. But after that, it was just a lot of conversations with people that I didn't want to have. And that night, I went out and found a nice secluded spot.

Me and my wife came. We were chilling. Uh had a good time. My home girl Toron just happened to be there. Found her. Me, too. I think I mentioned it before.

She happened to walk up. So, we were like, "Oh, busting up, having a good conversation." This woman comes up to the table and like, "Hi, I'm a lawyer and I'm here

with a table full of lawyers and we demand to know why you're on the Joe Button podcast." Holy [ __ ] [ __ ]

Yes. Let's go. Let's go. Turn it up. That's right.

That's right. Don't say turn it cuz my wife that's what she heard it up. I'm I'm I'm with her.

Yeah, she was I'm with your wife. So, did she answer? Make a whole I I have learned

I have a profile on my wife. So, I knew at that moment that if she were to answer it, it wasn't going to

end the way it left my I would have I would have wanted to answer too like look [ __ ] Okay, but go on. That's what

my wife was like literally forming the words to say and my girl Toronto was there too. She from the Bronx. She that

was she had the go girl. I'm right here. So I was like

everybody be cool. And I gave her but I also don't want to answer that question cuz I don't want to make people think they can like charge me for an answer

while I'm at dinner. But I also she wasn't going to leave. Oh shoot that ass. And that's why you got to let

Yeah. That's why you got to let let off. Yeah. Let her go. Why people would got white people would have got out of there. giving her the

eyes like like crazy like you don't want you classy lawyer don't have enough KOF

and enough class to not know that this is inappropriate. You need to be on the Joe Bun podcast, [ __ ]

No, cuz she's saying it like we are less than. You get what I'm saying? So if you have enough KOF to know that this is

inappropriate, maybe you need to be over there. [ __ ] be swearing that they up here. Like get your dusty.

[ __ ] don't like that [ __ ] Yeah, I don't like that [ __ ] I don't think any of us like Yeah, that's why I like that [ __ ] I I said, "Look, I'm I'm having dinner

with my people." Uh, it means it's 2:00 in the morning and we were all like half drunk. She was sober. I can tell. But so

this wasn't like a noon brunch thing where it might be a reasonable It's 2 in the [ __ ] morning. Yeah, that [ __ ] is inappropriate

after a white party. Like, you know what I'm saying? It was like, "Yo, just just just chill." Sometimes you supposed to give them what they asking for. I I gave her like a But also, I don't

want the story to be that I was an [ __ ] to her. Not cuz then it it Yeah. Now you it it

multiplies, right? So I I gave her some answer. You hold us down. Oh, I I did hold us down.

It sounds like you did. No, we getting a lot of words out of it down. Give him a wide birth. Go ahead, Mark.

Yeah. Birth. Wide birth. Yeah, he got this. He got space. Yeah. Yeah, I'm bing.

I said, no. I I I said I I I said, "Look, Joe's a problem." No, no, I'm just kidding. I said, "We working on

getting rid of this." Not even mad at that. I've been trying to get rid of this [ __ ] Um, no. I I I said the show

I said I'm here to reach a big audience and I said if you actually watch the show it's not what people say about the show and I mentioned the Kevon interview

where he himself said like you know this isn't what we thought it was and then I tried to end the conversation I did that

[ __ ] like 30 seconds left then turn my back to her I turned my back to her to finish let you know [ __ ] the conversation over yeah minus that

word but yeah like she I turned back like 2 minutes later she was still there see that wasn't enough

she was waiting for more and I just turned back and left her there but like it was that kind of energy sometimes But

90% of the people were cool. They might ask for a picture. They might talk and then just let it let it let it go. So, you know, you know what though? When

you on one of those trips and you catch the lawyers out getting drunk. Yes,

they do that. Yes. The lawyers drunk after 101 while they

at the vineyard or [ __ ] Yo, they do that dumb [ __ ] They be the slides.

Okay. All right. Let me just set up for that. They are the slides. Well, I meant Well, I meant do. They be

the slides. I meant right now. They be the slides. Shut the [ __ ] up.

Same night, same fight. Those are the slides. Judging everybody in the world. Y'all the slides.

Slip and slide. Get loose. I got you. I had just the opposite um experience at NEBJ. Like they just they love the pod.

They love the pod. They love you. They love all of y'all. They love the pod. That's why NBJ is such an important

place to be and to talk about. All right. Come on. Um, the vineyard I got to say 90% of people at the vineyard

loved us too. It I mean literally most people it was almost all black men like we love the show. Tell everybody I love them. What's up with Flip? What's up

with Is every I mean they feel like they know y'all and they talk about y'all like that. It was totally dope and again

and overall is a good experience. Anybody out there that wants to vacation, do that. Just plan it early and expect to spend some money. But it

was Yeah, it was expensive. I didn't have that experience but it wasn't a festival or whatever was going on when I was there. It was way more lowkey.

Yeah. What month did you go? I think it was July or August. Was it cuz first week of July is LGBTQ

month. It wasn't that we that's it. It's cool if it was fun. I

had a whole different experience. Your shorts now. Your shorts now ain't the most like

sensei. You cannot talk to me in this. Your shirt goes to your ankles. Coming

up the hallway. You look like a prophet. What the [ __ ] are you doing? Oh my man. Yeah, that [ __ ] got the

[ __ ] and the karate slippers. Yo, that's crazy.

Oh [ __ ] I seen some of them all white party pictures.

Honestly, that [ __ ] was crazy. You can't help it. How many all white parties you been to in your life? Countless.

You and Cory, that shit's in the ' 90s ' 90s 98. No, I just saw everybody, you know,

pictures from the venue. It was packed out there. Yeah. Yeah, Michelle Obama came last night, so everybody's trying to be there for Obama week. They come every week,

every every summer. Just Michelle. Uh I think they both were there, but Michelle was at had her own party on

Saturday night. Got it. Got it. Yeah. So, did you see Barack? I saw him, man. I ain't lie with him.

Oh, you saw him? Three miles in. All right. Cuz I was about to put a whole lie on him. I thought a man lies

on Obama's jacket. You can't come. I'm not The Obama are fans of mine. They they they

The Obamas don't mess with you. No. I don't want to sound grandiose to make it sound they think about me. But I'll

say that I've the opportunities I've been given at other presidents, I have not been given there. And when I've been

when I the times where I was supposed to be there for something, somehow my name got taken off the list. Mark rubbed a lot of people the wrong

way. Damn, man. I ain't going to hold you. Yeah, we might be cool now. What you said about Barack?

You call a [ __ ] war criminal, everybody get

holy [ __ ] Thin skinned people, man. thin. You do that, but you bringing up the

journalist convention. Yeah. What's What's wrong with the coalition, man? Respect black, man. Black is black. Respect them. [ __ ] We

don't We not worry about no more criminal [ __ ] Whatever you talking about. I am publicly It's a black

president. Put some respect on his name. Okay. So, you support black Republican presidents? No.

He's a Is he a Republican? No. But I'm saying they're blacks you don't support because you don't agree with them. He's a person I don't support cuz I don't

agree with him. Well, for 850 episodes, before we start, we do say, "What topic

do y'all want to start with?" Let me tell you which one wasn't on

that.

I think I could take a shot and say war crime. I will not let us be derailed.

We all done with This is why the lawyers don't like us. Right. Let me take it back cuz one of the arguments the bougie people were

having up there, myself excluded cuz I'm not bougie, was this Halle Berry David Justice thing. And it I mean people were ready

to like throw hands over this [ __ ] and it was mostly it turned into like a gender war thing a little bit.

And and I shouldn't be shocked. I know. But it was like actually we had a clip cuz cuz Harley actually I mean David

Justice breaks down why he broke up with Halle Barry. I have there's many but uh I have one here queued up. Let's get into it. It

really wasn't a lot of negative attention until I decided to leave her

in 1996. You know, I remember Hie saying to me, you know, hey, you know, she asked me to marry her after knowing me

for 5 months. So, I'm I'm looking at my mom and I'm a Midwest guy. So, in my

mind, I'm thinking a wife at that time should cook, clean,

traditional, you know. And then I'm thinking, okay, if we have kids, you know, is this a

woman I want to have kids with and to build up a family with? And at that time, as a young guy, she don't cook,

don't clean, don't really seem like motherly. And then we start having issue.

He, ladies and gentlemen, I I thought he was ridiculous. Now I I

add two quick things. He did say at the time, so he may not think like that anymore. I don't want to say he thinks

like that now, but at the time I thought the way he thought was ridiculous. You are with Halib Berry.

Who was her? Yeah, Halle Berry was her. Now David Justice had money. David Justice was him at the time. He was.

So in the same way, it would be unreasonable for her to be like, "Yo, he doesn't seem like the type of he just wasn't home all the time. He wasn't, you

know, he was at practice. He was playing for the Braves. He was a star. Like I would expect the same thing for her. She

was in the prime of her career or entering the prime of her career. She was a the star. No, she wasn't those things. And I don't think that's a knock

against her. And he almost made it sound like she wasn't doing her responsibilities. And I just want to add a caveat that he left out a little

breakup thing. She also had a restraining order for abuse. Whether it's true or not, I don't know. But it's it was true.

But but at least I should say the restraining order is true. I don't know the details of their relationship. But what I do know is that's also a part of

Is that what you were saying was true? the restraining order part or the abuse part? All of the above. And because she goes

on to describe uh the um the effect that it had on her and her suicide attempt

directly afterwards. Where where did she describe this? She describes it on Oprah and in in multiple magazines.

I wasn't doubting her account. I just don't know enough to have to have an opinion on it. See, but that's the thing that that that that in this conversation

is kind of important because in the longer clip, David Justice is

saying part of why I'm talking now about Holly Berry is because as a Midwest

dude, I stayed quiet and allowed certain rumors to take place. Holly Berry was

abused. This is his words. I know the person that abused her and she kind of

let that story circulate as if it was me and she never held me down or came out

to say this is not me. That's what he is saying in in the long clip. Yeah, I heard that part as well.

And that's saying I don't know enough about that to know who's what's true and what's not. Uh I don't know about that because I

feel like everybody up here knows who the allegations were against. See, I'm I as a man can't do that. I'm

going to be honest. I do. I won't say it. I know who they are against. I don't know if it's valid. Hold on. Let me tell you. I for for as

long as I can remember, I always thought it was him. Okay. Same. That was the rumor.

In in defense, I agree. But we were 12 maybe.

When this first came out, that rumor carried. Yes, that rumor carried. Cuz when this first came out, I saw a conversation of

people saying, "Yeah, but you did this to her." And then I looked it up. I'm like, "Oh [ __ ] it wasn't him." All this time. I

thought it was him. Yeah. So that character. So if if we're taking him at his word, I

can understand having an axe to grind with Holly Bry all of these years later. Even an axe that you buried for 20 some

odd years. And in my opinion, this is what I took from it. I took one,

a level of honesty from him. I also took a level of accountability from him. So I

think he said basically back then knowing what I knew then as a 26 25

whatever year old man this is where my thought thoughts were. I'm a he country

as [ __ ] today. So I can only imagine how he sounded in the '9s. He sounded like he just came

out the farm like yo dog n a young kid. He's a superstar athlete. He was

right living in Atlanta. I came from this. These are my

perceptions of how a woman should be. It's no different than women that grew up with their dad. They'll tell you in a

heartbeat, "Yo, I grew up with my father and my grandfather. These are how things that I think a man should do." Like,

"Yo, dog, you need to be hands-on. I grew up in a a household where my father fix [ __ ]

Sweetie, I'm a software engineer. I'm just going to call Thumbtac." You know what I'm saying? And people and women will be like, "Yo, I like men that

are manly men." It's just how his perception was back then was wrong. How he was raised. Yeah, it was. But it was wrong

considering you have to modify your perception to who you dating. I I wish I could have heard him say it was wrong a little more. I thought that

I I have the longer clip here. He basically I don't I didn't understand cuz I had

saw the longer clip first. Okay. And seeing that then I didn't get really get the gender war part of it. Me either

cuz in the longer it wasn't a lot of negative attention until I decided to leave her in 1996.

You know, I remember Hie saying to me, you know, hey, you know, she asked me to marry her after knowing me for 5 months.

I said, okay. I cuz I couldn't. And this is long, so I will cut it in some, you know, and I said okay. But I don't

know if my heart was really into it, but I just I would I didn't want to make her feel bad and say no

in the moment, you know, or like I was just in the moment. It caught me off guard, but I was like, "Cool, we getting along. We

vibing." You get again, we only 5 months in. You know, we still in the honeymoon state, but we spent a lot of time apart

because she was doing movies in this country, that country, we probably could have made it if I knew about therapy. If

we knew about therapy, see, I took this as accountability. Me, too. We never had any major issues like that.

It's just that I because I was young. All right. and had only been in honestly

one real relationship before her. My knowledge and my understanding, my wisdom wasn't where it needed to be.

Wasn't bad at all. I'm looking at my mom and I'm a Midwest guy. So, in my mind,

I'm thinking a wife at that time should cook, clean, traditional,

you know. So, he's saying if we have kids, you know, is this the

woman I want to have kids with and build up a family with? And at that time as a young guy, she don't cook, don't clean,

don't really seem like motherly. And then we start having issues. We never had any issues about other women, other

men. I mean, like, see, this is not the picture that is painted at all of us when she

Hold on. I got one time cuz I didn't understand it. When uh we were out to lunch in LA, I'm

from Cincinnati, man. I ain't even in LA seen like that. And she see a actor that she worked with one time and he came in.

Hey. Hey. Kissed him on the lips. Oh, what? What are we doing over here?

Was he European or American? I'm American. What the [ __ ] is going on here? Oh, so I know this going to be a

conversation. So get home and I ask about that. Oh, that's what we do in LA. Oh, okay. Okay,

then. 20 more seconds. I'll cut it off. No, no, no. Keep going. Restaurant all the time. Had a young lady at the front seat all the time. We

went there so much. She became so friendly. We we got to hugging her every time we come in. Hey, how you doing? Just regular hug. My wife

to to lunch one time. I said, "Uh, hie, this is such and such. Such This is Hie." Right. Hi. Looked at that girl,

saw how fine she was, man. She gave her she gave her one of them like barely touched her hand, right? Just played her

crazy. I was embarrassed, bro. I was embarrassed. I was like, "But wait, hold on. I just hugged the girl.

You kissed this dude and you mad at me cuz I love the girl." So remember we

young. We young. So you know young you get petty. You understand? I can cut it here. He keeps going. No I

I think this I think this I think it's a good place to stop. I mean was open. This is the first thing I heard too.

And when this is David it's it's helpful for context for me. You never saw that? No. I'm saying I saw the other one.

I never saw the full. That's why I said from the beginning I said like you know he said back then. So I I was trying to

give him some grace on that but he actually delves even deeper to make it clear that it was back then. But the

gender war thing that that was happening, by the way, it wasn't people debating whether David Justice was wrong or not. It was people actually making

debating about whether or not a woman of that stature should be doing those things. Manosphere was going crazy. The first

the first thing I saw was the manosphere reactors cuz I looked for the clip to get the full context. I was like, "Ah, [ __ ] I

landed on one of these." I just think I just think that's more silly rage baby, right? like a a woman

that's uh the first $20 million actress, the woman with all that she had going on. He goes on to say that she was broke

at the time. I was about to say, but be clear and again I think I think he even admits to

being wrong. Mhm. Right. Well, he might not have said, "Yo, I was wrong." I think he keeps saying at that time at that time. The

way I viewed [ __ ] at that time. Blah blah blah. But he was him.

She They got married in 93, bro. But this is not that Halle Berry that we see today in 93 to 199.

We don't need to get to all that because with all that going on, you can h you hire the nanny, you hire the cleaning

lady, the cleaning person, you hire the chef. Like this this is like a lowbrow argument to me.

But the problem is if you old country dude, it's not just can stuff get done. It's is this the right kind of person? And

idea is if you're not down to do that yourself, then you're the wrong person for me. I can afford to get it taken care of, but I need somebody who wants

to do that. But even just the fact that he states that they barely knew each other, you know, regardless of the fact

like she asks him to marry her. I don't know her thinking as to why you asked this man to marry you after you not do

that after 5 months. If I think that I if I think that I have met my soulmate and I love you more than

I don't know what the sun rises and sets on the crack of your [ __ ] ass. Yes, I would. I would. I would.

But that's not that. But that that's not what that sounds like. He sounds wildly indifferent. He

goes, he it's almost like he wants to say I really couldn't give a [ __ ] You know how much you gota be him to be like Halle B. I felt bad for her. I just

said yes. Yeah. You I felt bad for her so I said yes. So I turned into a marriage witness. No you don't. No you don't. No you

don't. No you don't. No you don't. Wait what? No you don't. Explain it to me. I might be wrong. Tell me.

You shouldn't just marry off someone's [ __ ] good looks physical. No I'm not saying he should have. I was

just saying like you got to really be that [ __ ] at that time in your life. That nigga's handsome. My [ __ ] that [ __ ] was playing for the Atlanta Braves

when they were the Braves and the Yankees. And I'm saying the same thing. I was saying he was that dude like, "Yo, dog, that [ __ ] was him. We're not so

word salad." And Mark's question was, "Yo, you know how you got to be to say to Halib Berry?" He

might have had 10 Halib Berries on his roster and she wasn't Holly B. Holly B.

But I also think that that's Anyway, that's not the I think that that was exactly what Mark

is saying. Mark was basically saying he was him. She was her. He was him. They are the they were power couple before

the term was even [ __ ] coined. But the whole thing, the weirdness is you

really you you didn't really have like an investment in this woman

is if any woman that asks you, I don't care who you are, Marilyn Monroe, you could put all the statue in the world,

Queen Elizabeth, if you five, if you're five months in and you propose to a guy, I don't think

that you need to be that dude to say, "I'm not ready for that." Yeah, this seems like a lot.

Yeah. I think a regular the UPS worker that's actually a red flag. Oh, it's a super red flag. Tell the

truth about it. That's a red flag. Now, on top of that, y'all are right. He was him. But I don't think you need to

be him for that to handle that that way. That's true. I think the biggest thing with this clip that caught me off guard is why is this

happening right now? Cuz of podcast. I think that's crazy to me. 30-year-old

relationship. A lot of people were thinking we're still have tea. Like come on. What what happened? What I saw a lot of was

people making this the flip of the Nelly Ashanti argument. What do you mean? Tell me what with

um Nelly saying the whole yo I'm not changing no diapers. I'm not doing any I'm hiring somebody. So now when you hear a man says they were like okay if

y'all stood on that side it was okay then why you have a problem with it when the woman saying I don't want to do that

and I'm her. Okay. So that that's why people trying to equate.

I don't I don't think Halle Berry should have been cleaning anybody's house. Agree. I think we both have enough money where

I don't I'm not cleaning nobody house, [ __ ] My girl, we I got to hire a a cleaning lady and I

ain't got a tenth of what they got. I'm just saying and his Exactly.

No Golden Gloves, no nothing. I just think that from where he was from and how he was brought up, that was

traditional to get that. That's all. especially back then, you know, like that's why I was saying it's like it's about it's about whether that work gets

done, but it's also for some men or women to your point about the handyman stuff about wanting someone who's that type of

person cuz it's like, oh, if you're the software engineer and you you could pay Thumbtac or whoever to do the stuff.

Uh, but I want a certain kind of dude with a certain kind of personality, certain kind of character, someone who can defend me. And those things often

come with the dude that's building the cabin for you and not calling somebody. And I think a lot of times to do it, it's not about whether I can afford a

nanny or not. like do you have motherly in cuz he said she's not motherly. Motherly he did you know that's about something else and I'm not sure if that's a

she was also probably what 20 something at the time. She was 20 something and that was such a unfair assessment of her because she goes on to have what like three [ __ ]

children. So it's just like his assessment of her at that age was just like everybody was a mother ain't motherly

though. That is a thousand% true and I'm not saying she's not. I'm just saying I know let's just let's just stay where we are. We're talking about Harie and

we're and it's it it appears by all appearances that she is a very involved

loving mother. So, let's just stay right there. That's fair. That was her No, I'm not letting you do that. That's not fair.

Cuz that's always the appearance. Yeah. The appearance is is 99% of the

times a motherly woman. Okay. Well, usually by this age, cuz all of her, you know, at least Nala, her

oldest, is in her teens. By this age, children have voices and they have social media and they come after their

[ __ ] parents if they ain't [ __ ] We see it all day long. We have not heard [ __ ] all from Halib Berry's kids as to

whether or not. Okay. Okay. Let's get rid of I I have no reason to think she's not a great mother. I was just saying I don't see having children

as proof of being good at it anymore than a father who has 10 kids. You get what I'm saying? Like, but I'm also But and I don't think that having kids is

enough for a man to say that. Like that's if it's no kids and you don't see

that motherly [ __ ] and ain't no kids around and she ain't being motherly to you. [ __ ] we running around. You You

got to see that's not true. Yeah. Oh, tell me more. You've seen Tell me more. I've seen women

be with nieces, nephews, other kids. You can just see certain things that jump out. It's like, "Oh, shit." You know, she make she know she she knows how to

handle it. dog. You You There's women that have been around a man and men that have been around women intimately and

been around them and a woman can say, "Yo, I don't think he would be a good dad. I see him. I see how he moves. I see

some of his moral [ __ ] I don't think I would be comfortable having a baby." And that assessment I'm saying is

unfair. That's based on their observation. So that's their perception. So they're not wrong in their perception. The same way

a man could look at somebody and say, "Yo, she outside too much. She moving around a lot. I don't think I would be

comfortable having a baby with this woman. She dressed for five nights at that point. He shouldn't have married her. If he thought he if he thought of

he thought all those things about her, he should have left her the and didn't and basically was trying to insinuate, I didn't even really love her. Leave her

the [ __ ] alone. Regardless of the proposal, leave her the [ __ ] alone. 10 berries. Go with the 10 halib berries

that are nurturing in one [ __ ] clean up after you in the [ __ ] household. Leave that one alone. It's just It's

weird. It's just It's [ __ ] weird. I agree with that last point. Leave her alone if that's not if that's not what you want. He should in my opinion not if she's the

one that's not for you and you see all that [ __ ] up [ __ ] Don't marry her. Don't he shouldn't have married her. Leave her. He should have left her. He

shouldn't have married if you say she proposed to me after I didn't wasn't into it. I I felt bad for her. I didn't see the things I want

in a wife. Don't [ __ ] marry her. Why you make her a wife? Just don't marry her. You thought you would change her in mistake one

and in retrospect we think about it later. People do things like that all the time and and regret it later.

We'd be real on these podcasts. But later, I'm not saying I would have did. I'm saying I would have did the same [ __ ]

but I'd have been wrong. If you tell me if at 26 if Halle Berry said, "Yo, let's get married." [ __ ] but that comes with call me right now.

That comes with too early in the podcast.

That comes with knowledge and experience. Like if you're 26 years old as Hie, like you're going to get you're going to jump into it. It

just come with knowledge and experience. And we we do that a lot of times. I think it's reckless to say, yo, this person shouldn't have did that and this

lose. Yeah, we negate still got his [ __ ] We negate the fact that couple million if if it's the if it's the wrong. Wait,

hold on. But we take away growth and we take away experience from the person. Like this is what you have to go through in order to make these decisions.

But hold on. Here's the other part though is it was not lost on him what it looked like to have Halle Berry on his

arm. That's what I said. Exactly. So you can't have it both ways. You can't want to turn this fledgling starlet into a

[ __ ] housewife, but then also rock her on her arm where everybody's going to recognize her for the achievements

that she already has and what's probably going to come down the pipeline. You don't get to [ __ ] have it both ways. And he wanted to have

unless she wants it both ways. Yeah, cuz there are women who who want to be in the spotlight, but want to be home

cooking chicken and and and and raising babies. Maybe. But again, we're staying here with this particular

Let me ask a question on a different cuz I saw you make a face earlier and I I might have misread your face. Um Joe

said that it was a red flag and we all kind of agreed there was a red flag to uh somebody proposes after 5 months

for her to a little red flag. And we said it was red flag and you kind of looked like you seemed like you

disagreed with that. Did I misread you or do you No, no, I answered it. Oh, you do think it's a red flag.

No, no. I I answered it like he he asked me whether or not that I would do it and I basically said if the sun rose and set

on the cloud No, I get that under that circumstance but under but also I have a very I have very specific feelings about women proposing

to men. This is that's where my traditionalism creeps in, you know. So, but you know who who knows? Let that

special [ __ ] someone fall from the skies and it might change everything about double standard is a [ __ ] I I

don't care who tradition her tradition stick in but his tradition can't kick in. That's all right.

I'm not but I'm not it's I'm not kicking his back in about his sense of traditionalism. I'm kicking his back in

about his about the choice of the woman. Oh, got it. Sorry. Okay. You know, so Mark, you want to say

something? No, no, y'all y'all just nailed. I will say I completely understand Mary and Holly Barry 26. I don't really

understand 30 years later all the tea. I'm still on that. No, I totally understand that one.

Yo, and they they were asking him questions. So

dog Ice just sat there and said me and Ice and said we for all of these years

I'm be 45 thought that David Justice was the one beating her ass. I definitely if that's not the case I totally

understand him addressing that anytime a mic is I agree with that part. I just don't agree with the I didn't see a mother in

her and all the other parts. That's the parts that I his back his back been he'd been accused of something that he didn't do and he

stayed quiet. So you you're Yes. Your rhetoric is to but he's not saying that there wasn't

motherly instincts in her. He's saying at that age based on what I thought with no

relationship experience assessed wrong. True. I just want to be clear just for the factual since what I said at the

beginning was that there was a restraining order against him. There was that was accurate. That was for a verbal altercation they had and she said that

she felt unsafe after their argument. So to be clear, there was a restraint order. what I said was accurate. Um,

what I said I didn't know about was whether there was any physical violence in there. It seems to me based on what

you're saying, and I haven't heard Halle Barry say anything to on Oprah, she didn't say it was David Justice, right? No. Right. My understanding from

See, in 2025, it's easy to do that [ __ ] to No, [ __ ] In 2025,

I'm agreeing with you. I know it was him. He said it all. I'm clearing it up. I'm saying I want to be clear.

Y'all have to stop talking over each other, please. I I thought it was him too for years until I kind of got in the business and found out who it was and

then it's it's also kind of leaked a little bit. The actor who who has been alleged to do it. It's not her. It's not

him. So I know you know and so I'm just I just want to make that distinction cuz I don't want people to assume because there was a restraining order against

him that point. Come clear it up. Exactly. And also don't make it seem like that's what I was saying when she

went on Oprah. I did not say that he was the one that perpetrated the violence against her. I said that there was a

whole that there's an understanding as to who it actually was. I think we all clear it up. No, you didn't. I think No, you didn't say it

like that, ma'am. No, you did not. I said you did not. You said it's she is him. You didn't You said it was him. I didn't

push pause. What you were saying was true. The restraining order part or the abuse part? All of the above. And because she goes

on to describe uh the um the effect that it had on her and her suicide attempt

directly afterwards. Where where does she describe this? She describes it on Oprah, right? So 30

years. That was very talented. I do have to [ __ ] commend you. You You be lying. So

you're him. Shut the [ __ ] up. 30 seconds later. Shut up.

Grass. He ain't no [ __ ] sensei. Anyway, corny [ __ ] man. I got you.

corny ass [ __ ] So she put the mic under [Laughter]

[ __ ] like you ready to do a split. Yeah, I say it look like I'm ready to do a split. Y'all watch yourselves with your little joke cuz look even the

bottom of your [ __ ] What are those [ __ ] Chicken boards. [ __ ] you look crazy, boy. You look You look good and

crazy. Yeah, man. Pants, boy. Anyway, back to Anyways. Okay, let's talk over Mel no more, too.

Oh god, it's fine. Okay. So, almost 30 years ago, she gives the interview with um with Oprah and she talks to several

media outlets and she talks about the effects that the marriage had on her. There is the insinuation. She talks

about the restraining order. So, the insinuation is that there was some abuse that happened, but I felt like everybody

knew who it actually was. No, I think they right there is unfair to men.

No, cuz everybody didn't know. I think a lot of people thought that part is unfair to men. Y'all I

y'all just said the name. I had never heard it. I didn't know that. And if I did, I forgot it. Yeah, I heard that.

But it's always been David Jaw. I just thought it was multiple people. That's the thing.

But he goes on in this clip to say though Holly was broke, she had a

different type of machine behind her to help push and frame any narrative that

she wanted to be out. I think it's [ __ ] up. Oh, I think it's [ __ ] up. Yeah. If he didn't do it, it's [ __ ]

up. I mean, that's I think that's simple. Yeah. If he didn't do it, it's [ __ ] up. And it don't sound like he did it. So, if somebody Yo, if somebody has a

restraining order on you, you said it was for verbal assault. Yeah. But then they come out and say, "Yo, I was physically assaulted, blah blah blah

blah blah blah blah blah." Yeah. Like the two or three things going to start getting past it together. And then you don't refute that for the next 20 years.

That's nasty. That's nasty. And women be nasty. So, why didn't he Why didn't he ever defend himself?

You How can he defend himself? I never put my hands on her. And then what? And then that's it. I never

I know that he hasn't done that, but I think his I don't know that works. That works. But what I was going to say is I think

the problem is to to to the point Joe was making is believe victims. She had a machine a lot of a lot of times they are not

believed at all. Epstein files. Hello. Everybody keeps looking for the Epstein files. Listen to the women that [ __ ] actually said the crimes were committed.

But yeah, but go on. No, I I think I think David Justice's point is just that one. He said he his

sensibilities as a Midwest dude, you know, was that, you know, he just stayed out the way and let that go. But I think

he has at some point denied it at least once. But I think his point was he there's a whole machine behind Halle

Berry where all if you hear that constantly, even if he's denying it, he's like, "I didn't do it." They're like, "He did it." He's like, "I didn't

do it." And and that comparison is is what keeps happening, you know, and that that creates a bad situation for people.

I thank God that my male translator is back, boy.

I ain't going to hold you cuz I just be sitt but really is that what you say? That's what

you say? No, of course not. Come on now. You know we gang gang gang. I just be like wish shut.

But then Mark explained it right. So yeah, he's a great Yeah. He's the male whisperer. That's what

happened. Yes. Yes. Thank the Lord. How do you feel about that title, Mark? Uh oh. See, you always do it. Look, you

so extra. I don't like it. Yeah. I don't like it. I think we all It's reductive. Huh. It is reductive and

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Huh? He said yawn. What' you say? I said yawn. That's your door.

Yes. I don't understand. Get out the story. Get us some salt. Tell me more.

How could you yawn that? Because it's the preseason. You I find um I said something a couple weeks ago

that stuck with me. Really? Not exactly, but I'm making I'm making meaning of it.

When we were talking about the Hulk Hogan thing, you were kind of like, it depends on who's doing the storytelling. People respond differently to things. I

find that like if you're a Shador person, you're like, this proves everybody right. And if you're anti-shador, you're like,

this is the preseason. And if he had played like [ __ ] on the first game, the haters have been like, see, this mattered. And the supporters are like,

it's just the preseason. To me, this is a nothing burger. It's like he played. I'm glad he played well, and I'm rooting

for the kid. I want him to be great. But I think too much is being made of a preseason game against not the best

competition. I couldn't be more on the opposite side of this. Yeah, me either. I'm shocked. Couldn't be more on the opposite side.

Usually reasonable. Did he play against first team D a little bit? He did a little bit and they ran him

around a little bit. Mad that ain't his fault. I'm just saying he did play against

first team D. Pause. It wasn't the bet. It looked a little bit better when you played against the

But first team D means that they kicking our first team O line's ass and got me

on a run potentially. Yeah. I don't necessarily Yeah. I don't listen. I'm not here to Again, that's

don't mean nothing. 138 yards, whatever it was, two touchdowns, 14 for 23.

Yeah. Like stop. That looks great. But I'm not here to talk about stats or the game for what occurred in the draft and

what we watched. the spectacle made of him. If you're of the belief that we're making an example out of this young

black kid from this prominent football family, which I am, then that draft slide is a thing.

Put that to the side. The the quarterback that they took shot

whatever his name is that they took before him was injured. See, that's why this is not a nothing burger to me because you have no control

over who's injured on the depth chart and who is not. That's true. No, fam. The two quarterbacks ahead of

him were injured. Yes. Hey, the owner just announced we didn't want you. The owner announced that

there's nobody in the organization that has fought for this kid other than the GM. So, I think the the bricks have been

laid for him to fail whenever he hit. It didn't happen. It didn't happen.

That's not a nothing burger. And that's not a nothing burger. True. I'll accept that he didn't fail. I I I

think what I'm struggling with is the people making saying that this proves or disproves a point. I'm

doesn't prove anything. That's what I'm I'm just saying. Let's let's see. Again, I hope he's the greatest quarterback ever. You know, I'm

just saying this game doesn't to me tell a story one way or the other. But it does tell some of the story. It

says that this kid with every odd stacked against him since before the draft was ready to play,

had enough mental fortitude to get in there and do what he did. That's not a nothing burger. You can't

do that with what they do and what they've done to that kid. And some of those and some of those throws were not just regular old Joe

throws. Some of those throws he had poison in the pocket. He moved around. He stepped up. He made throws in double

and triple coverage. He played well, bro. He moved faster than he did in college per Dan or or

whatever his name is. That that's interesting. What you put on tape matters and pregame, preseason,

whatever the [ __ ] it is, that is tape that somebody somewhere is going to watch, that matters.

He's an NFL player. He's I didn't think that was in question even as a fifth rounder. I mean, you don't draft fifth rounders who you think

can't play in the NFL, right? It's just a question whether you think he's going to be a starter or not. But he didn't look like a fifth rounder. No, it's not true.

He didn't perform like a fifth rounder, which to me is not a nothing burger. And and bro, if you if you watch the game,

which I did, his command of the team had other cerebral [ __ ] going on. Like when they

came out the the huddle, he didn't We've seen veterans that were backups.

Come out the huddle and they look shaky. He didn't come out the huddle looking shaky. He came out the huddle like this

my [ __ ] Let's He came out the huddle in command. I couldn't agree with Wait, hold up a minute. I I could not agree with with

Ish more the way he commanded the team the video the videos I love is the video

circulating of him cuz he's miked up. So I don't even see many fifth rounders

miked up. No, he says his own personal camera crew. So So but that's he wearing a mic during

the game is not his own personal camera. I'm just adding that as an ext. So let's not do that. He's miked up. He's over

there with Miles Garrett saying, "Hey, how would you handle my spin move?" So, he's gaining information, too. Three, it

took me till the third quarter to realize that that game was in Carolina.

So, if if not for anything else, this can't be a nothing burger cuz it's it's looking like that Tim TBO effect. I hate

to use a white dude, but that other effect, that other box office outside of

football, you want to sell jerseys. You want to get people to this [ __ ] nasty ass uh arena in Cleveland when it's

snowing out. Yeah. You said Yeah. He want to sell jerseys. No, not him.

Do you know his jersey went crazy? I'm just saying. And they said that was mad because he

gets a percentage in his contract. He gets a percentage of all jerseys sold. Oh wow. So they said so far I think his jerseys

made Yeah, you got to check his [ __ ] Check it. They said his jersey sold I was about to order a jersey. How me too. Yo, they said that he's made $12

million off of his jersey sales. I think his his jersey sold $250. If you work in

the You haven't played a game yet. If you work in the Cleveland Browns organization and look at that game,

there's no way that you could say this is a nothing burger. You've now they've changed the conversation in weeks to come now. Not only in the quarterback

room, but in the organization. And it tells the owner who not only should shut the [ __ ] up, but has gotten the

quarterback pick wrong for the last 40 years. Maybe it's a blessing in disguise that you didn't want.

Agree. Now, go ahead, please. I still I'm I agree with Mark. It's a nothing burger in terms of what this

proves playingwise. That's all I'm saying. That's it. Not if you're Shador Sanders. No. Now, I respect the [ __ ] out of him

because he could have went in there and and been [ __ ] the bed. Not even [ __ ] the bed. He could have went in there on some, yo, they already

don't give a [ __ ] about me. Like, all right, whatever. And just went out there on some blah [ __ ] He took this opportunity like, yo, no matter what, I

don't give a [ __ ] If I get in with 3 seconds left in the fourth quarter, I'mma go out here and ball put me on the field.

Then that then for So, I respect that. Then for this plethora of reasons, this cannot be a

nothing burger. To get a perfect game in bowling, you need a strike in the first frame and the fourth frame,

of course, and the sixth frame. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If he does this again and again, because

there's two more games and Cleveland Browns preseason games are now mustsee TV. If he does this two more times,

it's a conversation. So then for him, forcing conversation forcing the conversation. So, so then it's the building block for him and the

people that involved. It cannot be a nothing burger. They said he was potentially getting cut, bro.

I cut me now. I dare you. Although that could go two ways, too.

Cuz there was a lot of similar [ __ ] Back to the T-Bo thing. There was a lot of similar [ __ ] with TBO and that played

against him long term. True. Yeah. Because he went out and won a playoff game and now

I'm sorry. playoff game and now can't get a job because no team wants to bring that around.

Well, that's true. That's always going to exist. But that's why I didn't want to use him as an example because we do

also have eyes. I saw those games. He can't throw. Everybody watching knew that he couldn't

throw the ball. Yep. Shador Sanders made two really good uh

red red zone plays. Yeah. I I think he can play. I don't know enough about football to know

whether he should be first round, third round, fifth round. When I say nothing, Berg, and we I'll throw that word away and stand down on that point. My My

point on it wasn't that this game doesn't matter at all. I think every game matters, right? When you're watching Young, your point is don't overblow it.

Don't Yeah. All I'm saying is this doesn't prove the case for him or against. This ain't the I told you so on either side.

That's the best way. Everybody was saying this is I told you he could play it. I'm saying it's a preseason game. We

just don't know. And I've seen too many. It's the depending on how you getting dressed. It's the shoes. It's the socks to it. It's it's some part of the

outfit. Oh, this absolutely plays part of that. It's the tank top, but it ain't the end all be all. That's

what we say. This is not the end all beall. Let me ask you a question. I've been hearing rumors through social media and

some sports people off social media saying that this is the setup to trade him to basically

trade him to a place that now we'll see him as a start. You don't see it. That's who nanny. That would be

the Browns have two first round draft picks in the next in this uh 202 uh six

draft. Okay, which is said to be a really, really, really good draft. If you're the Browns, and they've been a

dysfunctional organization for a while, but if they weren't, you want one of these quarterback picks to pan out that

you got in round four and five, so that your two picks in the deep draft could be about something. And now you got the

building blocks or something. You just paid Miles Garrett all that. They already got building blocks. They got Miles Garrett. They got

They got something. Thank God. Hopefully God Nick Chub comes back or whomever their running back. He got

he's going to hold it back. It was another kid that was back in the field. I can't remember his name. He was

tough. He was tough. He was tough. But um you want to be able to spend those two picks next year

left tackle and Yeah. versus filling a need, right? So that'll be great.

Congratulations to Shador Sanders and the Sanders family and Karuchi. Like this is a big deal. This is a really big

deal, man. This is not to be overlooked. That's true. Uh, also speaking of, we have Ari Linux doubling down on her

Martin take. Do we have clips? Do we have clips? Somebody find me a clip. Find me a clip. Come on, wake it up here. Energy up. Energy up. Ari Linux

went on for some strange reason to double down on her Martin tape where she received a lot of backlash for saying that some of the jokes were not only

inappropriate, but colorist and did a lot of damage to how black uh darker uh

complexed women are viewed. And I stand with her on that. Um, but I think what was interesting is she added

to it and said kind of like, you know, I can defend myself. I stand 10 toes on that. And the the piece of the clip that

she said that was setting people off more recently, but she said, "As a matter of fact, I watched Bernie Mack

and I heard something and you know, and I also found some of those jokes offensive. He's a legend, but some of those jokes were problematic, too." That

that's that's what she said. And if you watch Richard Prior, they'll be offensive. If you watch Eddie Murphy,

they'll be offensive. Mhm. M anybody that's funny. She should find something to do. I meanbody.

She should have something to do. Eddie Murphy said the gay dude was sitting on a car spinning his hand.

How what was he doing? Pull over. Yeah. What you talking about? No, he ain't saying it like that. No, he did do that. And they said that

like the good comedian, good comedy. And that show was a sit a comedy entertainment sitcom. The the good

comedy is going to give you some of that. You weren't here. Uh, we said if you feel like this about Martin, how did

you feel about Sanford and Son? Yeah. I mean, it's it's how did you feel about Marry with Children?

And and I watched our conversation on it and and you know, with great disappointment

in judgment. I I I think there's two arguments, right? One argument people are having is

she's wrong. And another argument people are having against her is yeah, but so what? Like that's what comedy is. And

I'm hearing more of the latter coming from y'all right now, which is which is interesting. I think what I was most

frustrated with were the people, and I disagree with both of those arguments, but I was most frustrated with people who were saying it wasn't true, right?

But as far as all comedy is offensive, all comedy is offensive, but all comedy doesn't have to be um antilack.

And I laughed at the anti-black [ __ ] growing up. I saw it. I I didn't I didn't see it as that growing up, but

now when I look back on it, I'm like, "Oh yeah, that was [ __ ] Oh yeah, that was real [ __ ] up. What What did Martin Back to her initial

comments again? Martin joked on everybody on that show.

What did Martin joke on Pam that was colorist? He never made any jokes about her complexion.

Beyb that that's not a dark skin joke.

No, it's not. That's a hair joke. But there's a direct correlation to darker complexed women and of course and

nappy hair. Right. The assumption is that if you're lighter, you don't have nappy hair. That's an assumption. Yeah, but that's these are all based

stereot. That's what stereotypes are. They're assumptions about how people are. But hold on. Listen. My problem is why

must we Sorry. I was just going to say, of course, it's not a fact that all black people eat watermelon, right? It's an assumption

people make, right? It's a stereotype. The fact that it's not true is what makes it dangerous, right? Because we're we're assigning to people truths that

aren't actually true. And so there's something really harmful, I think, about

one a setup where the love interest, the one who finds love is often the light-skinned character. You see the

same thing in Tyler Perry movies with men. So it, you know, it goes in both ways, no pun intended. There there's there's a there's a light-skinned

character who finds love. There's dark-kinned character who doesn't find love. There's a dark-skinned villain. There's a light-skinned hero. These are all things even if they don't say those

things. the villain don't have the villain is always the [ __ ] with the money and the and the lightkinned cute

[ __ ] even if they don't say those things and so Pam is always Pam is on the butt end of most of the jokes right now if

Shenane had been light-skinned it might have been a little more complicated right but even so but the charact the women characters that get joked on the

most are the darker ones and when you start making jokes about what's in your kitchen you know what I mean or your

breath or these other things and it's a dark skin character it does do something yeah and and Esther on Sanford son was a

victim But the difference with San Franc is everybody was the same complexion. There were no lightkinned. I mean if you think about Donna Esther, I mean

everybody was the same complexion. So wasn't colorist to me. Don't you think you got

to get the [ __ ] out of the issue is is that get back to the world. There's so many there's so many things that's going on in the world today that

I don't understand why people have the time to go back and ridicule the comedy or the the shows that

were part of us growing up, right? like it's too much it's too many things going on right now in the world. Well, so I

feel like I feel like it's a disservice right now to do that. Here's why I don't

think it is. I if if we look at a a I hate to say rap video cuz we don't do those that much anymore, but when you

look at casting calls or rap videos for for sets and they looking for light-skinned girls to be in the video

only or attractive girls only, but they mean light-kinned, right? Um where do we get that thinking from?

Right. And so when you start tracing say well that's how we grew up. We grew up admiring Gina and clowning Pam.

See, and that's the problem. Gina got clown. Gina got clown. Wait a minute. Wait. See, and that's part of the problem.

Y'all brush. Ari Linux didn't watch Martin as it aired. So, she don't know that everybody

still wanted to [ __ ] Pam. Word. Everybody still wanted Pam wasn't the bum on the show. She

It wasn't what [ __ ] didn't want to [ __ ] Gina more than they wanted to [ __ ] Pam. I know I didn't. So, I get that she's saying

she's not trying to rewrite history, but if you weren't there, then you kind of are. And why where I agree with Flip is

these are the same people, Pam, Gina, Cole, everybody that's alive looking for

the Martin reboot. Yeah. No, [ __ ] Asked Pam these questions herself. I know she answered. We played it. I

don't want to harp. But not these people are not only looking for the reboot. Martin had a didn't had a health scare.

Like I think the main point is not to say that there was zero validity in what

she was saying, but like Flip said, in 2025, why are we here? What are we

doing? And why is this the focus? This show is cemented already. Yeah. What's the point of going back?

You should have something better. You not And that sounds wrong, so let me not say that. But what I'll say is this.

This is where some of the confusion comes from with Ari Linux and other artists that decide to get on the net

and share the opinions. The difference between them and our superstars is they

won't share their opinions. Like you are in the people business.

So I get everybody feel like hey we got a platform let me share. Ari Linux is

newly left her label or got removed and is in the people business and every year

at least twice we get these moments from you that didn't have [ __ ] to do with Martin. Hey, way before Martin for years

we get moments from you where twice a year you wig out on some black [ __ ]

I think that is more so the focus from people with the message and the

messenger. It's not to say you're totally off base. I I I think you're right that superstars

don't always are and you don't know what Beyonce think about a goddamn thing. Yeah. But there might be something to be

said about that too, right? That that I I admire people who say I understand

this is the cost of superstardom, but I need to tell the truth. Not on the Martin Hill. See, if it was a

real hill, and I heard you just say this last night on some war criminal [ __ ] in your conversation, you was if this was a real hill. when I was defending Mel.

Yes, but I would admire I would admire that too. But what is there to admire on the Martin Hill? It's a weird hill to

die on when you you a guy that speak about a lot of social injustice. A lot of things you

know that we going back to Martin, but you know, leave that [ __ ] alone. Sometimes I I we talking about war

criminals, right? Just to use as an example, right? I'm not going to war crimes. I'm saying you've been dying to love to I mention but but like if I were

to say, well, yeah, I let's talk about pop culture. There's a relationship between those things when we grew up watching WWF and Hulk Hogan's waving the

flag and Nikolai Volkoff and Iron Chic are not that sets us up to believe that we should be waring with those people.

The axis of evil, right? There's a way that pop culture trains us to look at the world differently. But there was too much pro black [ __ ] in

Martin for that to be my focus. Exactly. And with exper and hold on part of the problem and and and with

experience you realize that at the time those things were happening, it was currently happening in the world. So

there's a relationship between the two. What WWF did was just imitated that. That's all it and I'm saying something

different. I'm saying it wasn't imitating. I'm saying it helped create that. It's easy for me to accept. I'm saying it's easy for me to accept

famine in Africa if I got Abdullah the butcher eating a turnbuckle and I believe that's what those people deserve. A commodity Ugandan giant. You

see what I'm saying? It's easy for me to bomb Iran if I believe that the iron she's a cheater who stole Bob Blandin's championship with the You see what I'm

saying? There there's a relationship between culture and politics. And I'm just saying Ari is on that tip. Now, I

agree that would might not be the hill I would die on. I wouldn't want to be fired from CNN for talking about Martin.

That's what black people are saying. That's all black people are saying is this is a weird hill for your weird ass.

We've been thought you was weird. Not me, but that's what black people are saying. You've been weird and this is

another weird hill for you to die on. Okay. Wait, I I have a question, Mark, cuz I'm I see that you mined through the

comments. Did you see anybody who was agreeing with her? Was there any dark women of darker complexion that were

agreeing with her statements? I want people to agree with lots of people agree with him and and I think when

you're a darker complexed person, you often you you experience those things differently and you see those things

differently. I mean, and and it's and it's not just Martin. It's it's this it's the history of black television, right? Can we lock these people in a gymnasium

so they could argue about it, right? like the people that's like doing [ __ ] in the world like trying to make a real

change should be separate from these people that want to fight about the shows from the 90s.

I I think I think a lot of us have colorism has always like there's been a thread throughout like all film and

television making when it comes to like black stories. We were just talking about paper bag test and what was the movie called? School days.

School days. Yeah, exactly. Huh? Shut the [ __ ] up. So, it's just like this isn't this isn't anything new.

Yeah, this isn't anything new. And the fact of the matter is she was probably like a young girl when Martin came out, you

know, like really really young. So it's like if she was alive, she might not have been born. Maybe not. So then, so I'm assuming that

the first time she ever probably watched it was as a very very young person and then later on watches it and sees

something through a different lens now processed it one way and then realize

whatever she's realizing in real time kind of thing. So do you have an opinion on that though male about how she or you just do you

have an opinion on her comments on the Martin show? I my comments are basically like

whatever lens in which she's looking at the world is based on her on her personal experience. So I I really don't

have a judgment on it. You know, there's things and you know, being older, there's things I look back on that I had

one impression of or one idea of and now I have a completely different opinion of it because of my lived experience,

because of my age, because of my maturity, and because of like my understanding has just changed. So, you

know, and do you, just so y'all know, she was one when Martin first aired. But totally aside from that, and this was this

speaks further to the point you were making last night in the conversation that I won't bring up. We looking at the worst 100 days from a

president probably in the history of presidents. That's what I'm saying. And look what the [ __ ] we're talking about.

You, in spite of what I think of you, have an a voice and an audience

and we on market. That's fascinating. Come on. Come on, Mark. Think about what

we talk about up here on a given day. Yes. We talk about lots of stuff that people

would say isn't as important as what's happening in Trump or in Gaza, what is happening.

Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. That is a false parallel if I ever heard one. Because while true, in the next breath,

we would get to Gaza per you or the 100 days from a president or whose vote for

we'll get to it. But that's my point. Ari's doing the same thing. I'm saying why why why are we not allowing her to talk about that

on top of other [ __ ] She has not. All she's talked about is getting [ __ ] thrown at her at the Rodwave concert. Martin, she's talked

about uh everything that is related to how people treat her as a dark-kinned woman in entertainment. It's been

nothing. It's been nothing outside of that. And if I'm wrong, please bring up the point. I've never heard it.

Is she getting treated bad? Is she getting treated bad? Not my place. She's spoken. She has spoken about it before like in in

detail. But if she's used the platform in the since the pandemic to talk about a matter that matters to black people as

a whole, please tell me. But but what you just described to me is what matters to black people. I'm saying it's not just like she's talking about TV shows.

Martin, no. No. I'm saying in addition to Martin, just talking about how black women, girls and women and fems get treated to

me is a worthwhile issue. Some people are single issue people. Some people only going to talk about the environment. Some people only going to talk about sexual violence. Some people

only going to talk about uh economic justice. If what you're saying is true, then point me to the three black shows

today that continue that trend. A as a society, black people have addressed

this trend. I don't know if we have. I I I'm I'm not convinced that we have. I I think that

Well, in the '90s there were in the '90s when Martin was out, there wasn't a Lena Rafe. There wasn't a Tyler Perry. There

wasn't there wasn't all of these black people, black minds with a green light. You

think Tyler Perry you talk you think Tyler Perry traffics and colorism and we talk about it right that's what I'm saying. So I don't think we've

passed it is all I'm saying. I think we have to keep talking about it so that this does stop past it. No but

progressed. Yes. Yes. And to act like we haven't in 30 years would be irresponsible.

I just don't think we should go back. I think I think I think we have to keep track of both. I think Name me the show. I think we can acknowledge

outside of Tyler Perry. Name me I mean that's that's half of black TV but yeah but Martin is on was on Fox. Name

me a show today that's on cable television that continues some of these uh dangerous tropes.

Well, there's not a lot of hope. There's not a lot of black television. Take a second and think about it. I don't watch.

What you say? Power. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. He should have left her episode one where she [ __ ] saying that did

what? What he just said? The whole villainized. We always say Tasha was the

villain. Tasha was the true villain. She was. And who his love interest was was this.

was a fairkinned woman. Not in the not in the not you know check

this out. I'm going to go back to getting money. Yeah. Yo y'all y'all have at it these

are all fair points. But I will also say to your point I'm not done yet. I have some thoughts on that's my mama that I need to get off

my chest. That's my mama. You never mind. That's a show from the 70s.

Very funny joke if you get to but I was going to say to you Flip. Um right now Jen Oh shorty from what's happening past.

Yes. I was going to shout her out. Yes. Dr. D. Danielle Spencer, also known as D.

One of my first TV crushes. You had a crush on D? Hell yeah. What's happening? He still has crushes on D.

No, it's not. What you saying, man? What you saying, man? I was just going to tell I'm just making a point that Gen Z is looking back at

like a lot of the shows that were really, really popular back in the day. I missed you. And they're Thank you. They're looking back at everything.

Yeah, they are. And everything culture. Yes, exactly. and they're just like, "What the [ __ ] was wrong with y'all?"

Nothing that Ari got to say is going to take Martin off Netflix. That's a fact.

Um, but D did die uh of cancer at the age of 60. Um, taking a and that that that show got

decimated by cancer. Shirley Hemul who played Shirley died and and Mabel King

Mabel Thomas that was that was his mom's, right? Yeah. The woman who her name was Mabel and both she she died. The mom died as

well. She lost all her limbs and stuff, but but D was a not only a great actress, she also was a veterinarian.

She was an actual doctor um who spent her life trying to serve animals and humanity and was just a good

a good person. Best known for what's happening and what's happening now. Shout out to her uh and her family and everybody. But yeah, a TV legend we

lost. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. For sure. What

uh what else is Oh, I wanted to tell you because you were asking um the woman that you were playing in the beginning of the show,

her name is Jennifer Welch and that podcast is called um I've had it. Thank you. Yeah, she absolutely smoked that.

She I mean it was a longer clip. Incredible. Shout out. It was way longer.

Was that Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I know we've been going back and forth or the last Patreon I went and you know,

we were arguing about how the JBP has made you Yeah. Or widening my audience

and um made you no watch your [ __ ] mind. I'm just tell you from a fans perspective. Watch what fans stop about

you while I play. So easy. So what happened was I was at DR parade. I saw Troy and Rashard EL. I

saw them. They were walking with Terrence J. So I'm with the camera. I woke up. Yo. Hey. What up y'all? Troy and Rashad are still walking around

outside. So they was there in the public. Hold on. So they was there. was laughing, but Terence Jay had to go. So he like I'm

like, "What up, Queens Flip?" So he like, "Yo, come on, fellas. We got to go." He's rushing them and then they're just still talking to me. He like, "Yo,

listen. We got to go. If you want to, you can follow us." So I'm like, "Nigga, what? He want me to like I'm a fan. He

want me to follow y'all." I said, "No, I'm good." And I walked away. Uh about a couple of minutes later, he says me, he

follows me and sends me a DM apologizing. I'm like, "Oh, that was nice. He even invited me to the beef bar." So I go, "You

heard us?" It's a restaurant in Tribe.

Heard you, man. Wait, wait. Where is this place, man? It's a restaurant. If Yeah.

Sounds like Chelsea. Very nice. It's in Tribeca. I thought he said, "My bad, Flip. I didn't know that was you. Suck my dick."

He apologized. I was in a rushed. He said, "I had to get fitted. I'm I'm getting married. I was getting, you know, I was in a rush to get fitted for

my wedding. I'm getting married. So, I want you to come out here to the to the beef bar." Paul, I went there. some

exclusive [ __ ] I went in the back and he was just nice and they had fresh fries. No, no, I didn't eat. He offered me steak. He offered me mad stuff.

Lots of meat there. And then he was just talking about Joe like Joe my man River Road. And if I knew that was you, my my approach

wouldn't have been that way. I apologize. And in my head, I'm like, "What the [ __ ] is going on?" But he wanted me to sit down at his it was his

wife's birthday. It's fiance's birthday. Everybody there. They brought out some black noir [ __ ] from uh Ace of Spades

like 6,500. They were just doing [ __ ] I was learning and I'm thinking to myself, I'm talking to Troy and Rashad and I'm like, I was just talking [ __ ] to Joe and

them [ __ ] but look at the treatment that he's giving me because I'm on the podcast. You saw the article. You know what I'm saying? No, he was he

was like, "Yo, I don't want you going up there and keep my back in. Joe, my man, River Road, that's my brother. You know, I didn't come up there yet, but it was

just a nice experience." And shout out to Troy and Rashad because they was doing it. That [ __ ] was fire. Can Can I

ask you a question? Cuz me Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. As a That's what I'm thinking over here. What you thinking?

You know what? Wait, so you they had to go somewhere.

They pulled them away from you. Said, "Yo, if you want, you can." [ __ ]

yo, whoever you meet us later, if you want to come over here, you can. Oh [ __ ] he showed up. We can't.

No. Are you Watch your [ __ ] mouth, man? Ask him. No, [ __ ] I stand at the parade and I'll handle my business. But what I'm

saying, how did you get to this? He DM'd me late and apologized for his his his and you went.

He said, "Yo, I want to have a drink with you. I apologize." Yes. And you went. You don't drink. He bagged you. You don't drink.

He was the restaurant. See, I'm trying to get [ __ ] You a bird. I'm trying to

get y [ __ ] cut. You glowing right now. I went you took out the drinks and

offered you to be What the [ __ ] are we talking about? Listen listen. Yo, that

[ __ ] trying that [ __ ] trying to get your [ __ ] [ __ ] trying to get you drunk and give you steak.

Hey, [ __ ] Hey, meet me over here. Take this tuna tartar and champagne, [ __ ]

And it works. It got it. Look at him.

The point is it was a nice. All right. All right. That's enough laughing. I need to hear. I thought I got your man. It was It was just a nice

gesture to me. Listen, a lot of you [ __ ] follow behind [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] that [ __ ] talking.

What are you talking about? I didn't know who you were. If I would

have recognized you that I was in a rush, he apologized. He said, "I would like you to come and pull up on me." He said, "Yo, I knew you was your little

man." Watch your little man. [ __ ] please.

Don't do that. That's a y'all and my little man. Who?

[ __ ] Hey. Hey. Yo, don't fret.

You about to ask me a question. You about to ask me more. You said you had a question for me. What you about to ask me? Oh, we way past that now. I'm trying. I

had a serious question. I'm going to [ __ ] No, man. You had salt or sugar on the rim. You got your lemon drop. I only drink

lemonade. No, I I only drink lemonade, but I just came in. I came here to just salute him. I thought that was a nice thing. And the JBP, you know, it was it

was it was a good day. It was his whole family there. Watch your [ __ ] mouth. Jr. was with you. Jr. was with me.

Camera on. Jr. had the camera on. He did. Got you. How was the parade?

The the trash. Trash. The Dominican. But they did they did it disservice. I didn't like the this one.

The one in the Bronx was lit. I feel like just too too many restrictions in the city. But go home.

Why you saying that? Yo, you've been to all the parade. It's a parade at home. Hey yo, you trying to play my You trying

to play my wife? It's a parade. What you mean at home, man?

You trying to play my family? No, never. Never that. Just go home. Y'all be getting me in some [ __ ]

Stop. Stop by the crib. I'm always at home. Stop.

Go home, too. I think I'm always home. Look, I did have a question for you, though. In all seriousness, I was watching the Patreon. I watched the

exchange and you obviously it blew up a little bit. Yeah. It seemed like y'all were talking past each other so much. It It felt like

everybody up here. It felt like everybody was saying you had a rep and it got bigger when you got

up here, which doesn't seem like a particularly provocative or it's not offensive

offensive thing to say unless it's flip. So, is it is do you have a and I don't mean this with any dis sincerely. Do do

you have like a um inferiority complex? Tick. Oh [ __ ] That's what I was thinking, but I wasn't going to say that. Um, do you have a

insecurity around people like playing you small? Like do you feel like people play you small and you're worried about that and so you overreact?

Um, no. Okay. No. I don't think I feel like if it's somebody regular I wouldn't care about. I'll argue with them and and

say different things. But if it's just standing here saying that, yo, do you know where the Cayman Islands is or

whatever the [ __ ] he said? Like he's trying to break down why I may not be as popular as I think I am. It's offensive.

That's my friend. And you're supposed to know a little bit more about me than to even say that on the microphone. That's

where that come from. Because you know where the Cayman Islands are. Is that he was like you know where the Cayman Islands is? They want people

recognized me there and I'm like what are you talking like that was not why I said that.

So explain your country. You be in your defensive [ __ ] I was saying that me not having

any popularity in the worldwide whatsoever. I was a year on the show and

[ __ ] was coming from behind the bar as a result of the Joe Button podcast. Say

hi to me. My response to you is that that happened to me before a long time ago. That was my response. So you were what

was the correlation? The question was cuz you said all across the country and he was like you know where it came in as in yo it's not in

the country. So it didn't ask why it didn't apply to you saying you be on your defensive [ __ ]

Right. All right. I but I can acknowledge when I'm wrong. Okay. Yeah. I was just

trying to make sense of cuz as as a viewer it was just confusing to me cuz I was like this doesn't feel like it should be an argument. It should.

It feels like cuz I would think everybody up here, myself included, are enhanced by being on a bigger platform. You know what I mean? And it

doesn't take anything away from But I don't No, no, no, no. But but when they having a conversation with you and when people having a conversation with you, they're not trying to I I don't

feel like they're trying to negate the the prior work that you've done. But I don't think anybody up here.

It just I don't feel like anybody up here was doing that or does that to you. I think everybody here I don't think

that it's something that we should stick on, but I I feel how I feel. Joe understands where I'm coming from because he just understands where I'm

coming from. A lot of people may not understand. So when I say what I'm saying, it's not to disrespect the platform. It's just to hold on to what I

built by myself. Of course, you coming somewhere bigger. Yo,

you got to shut the [ __ ] up. See, see, look. Look what he did.

Look what he did. Tell me how nice that is now. You heard this song before? Yeah.

Look how light that is. All right. Watch.

Yeah. Look at the chicken. Yo, your mouth's no.

All right. And we are back indeed. Oh [ __ ] It's [ __ ] comedy. But no, since we telling

stories, I went to uh my man Naj. Shout out to Naj. Naj had his second annual uh

kickball game family kickball just event down here down the street. Uh

so I went because I'm a kickball fan and now just my man. You played and No, I didn't play. Okay.

I didn't play. I just went. I ain't got time to turn an ankle. I ain't got time. You in the gym?

What does it have to do with my ankles? You fit. You not in the gym and you not fit. That's why I ain't going. Don't interrupt me again.

That's why I ain't going. Don't interrupt my story. Uh, you should have went though. I didn't go cuz I I ain't fit.

You'd have felt bad if you went. That's why friends is in shape. That [ __ ] Tone look like God threw him

down from heaven himself as a 60 plus year old. Tone, you know, [ __ ] looks amazing at 60. Yo, don't know the people

I know. Sorry. Don't know the people I know. Sorry. No, we don't. You got to shut the [ __ ] up.

Yo, don't interrupt my story again either. Um, I went down there. Everybody looked

great. But I I saw Esso. Mhm. Esso from Bag Fuel. Shout out to

Were you alone? Did you have security? Uh, it was me, Cory, Ash, and Kino.

You sound safe. That sounds safe. Yeah. Yeah, you safe. Security. You need security to go to the

park on River Road. [ __ ] I invented kickball on River Road. Anyway, I'm bringing this up to say comfortable

around Esso sees me and says, "Yo, is it beef?" Like when I when I shook the sand, he ain't yo, is it beef?

What's going on? I heard, you know. And I was like, "No, it's not a it's not a

beef at all. I'm just never coming to sit over there again." So that made me want to bring it here because in content

creation land, like [ __ ] take you not going to sit over there as some type of beef and I don't operate like that.

Yeah. The same thing with when [ __ ] attack me like I don't operate like that. I don't think it's you taking you not going to sit. It's the way you said I'm

not going to listen. I said it like I'm never going to and I'm not. But that's why he had to clear it up.

Yeah. But see, and that's when content creators get real stupid, right? Cuz when I see him the first time Oh, my bad.

No, the little Oh, yeah. That's nasty. Thank you. Cuz when I see him the first time, I shook his hand. I let him know it was

love. Yada yada yada. Then on the exit cuz them [ __ ] cut them lights off at 9:00 on the dot. You knew of drug dealer

[ __ ] posing for a picture talking about come on now we got a little bit of time not in Edgewater. Bang lights out

[ __ ] Anyway, uh when I see him on the way out like yeah man because I heard you said

you wouldn't sit here or whatever and I said riddle me this.

You think I would let somebody come on my platform and say something about one of your kids and leaving it?

And he said, "No, man. But I'm just I said, "No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Answer my question.

Do you think I would let somebody come on my platform and say something about your kids and leave it there with how we

are, man? I don't know what you would do." All right. Well, let me answer you. But the that said a lot, right?

Hey, well, let me answer a lot. Well, let me answer you. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I feel like some [ __ ] just be

common knowledge and these content creators try to play stupid when you see them at the kickball game.

Anyway, it was good to see Esso. Well, no, hold up. It was good to see Eso. I just want to let it be known. Yo, I could totally

love you in real life and not want nothing to do with your business. I And I agree with Joe on that. I think

that in the content creation space, they take it. You don't want to sit on the show. That's why I got attacked. You

know, I don't want to go over there because I'm cool with this guy. I don't want I don't want to be there, but I [ __ ] with you [ __ ] If you [ __ ] need

anything outside of that, I'm down. Then you get disrespected because it's like you sliding them by not doing that. It's

not that. That's not the case. Obviously, sometimes you have to make decisions for yourself. I'mma protect my space. I'm going just protect my

relationships. Y'all confused. I'm not even going to hold you because that's like that's why

I don't play COE games. Y'all will play the COE game, which is content over everything, and then be

like, "Yo, certain lines are crossed and now I'm not going to [ __ ] with you on this, but it ain't no beef. It's just I still love you." Which one is it,

dog? It really confuses me, dog. Your interpretation of C, not you freeze. Your interpretation of COE might be a

dusty nigga's interpretation of COE. If you think the E and COE literally stands

for everything, then I question your upbringing and how you were raised. The E and everything does not mean you could

go on your platform and say something about somebody's children. Oh, no. I'm with you 100%. I got

personally, but just because somebody is repping COE does not mean that they subscribe to you

doing whatever the [ __ ] No, it's it's it's within it's within the [ __ ] boundaries of CE.

Yeah. What are we talking about? What are we talking about here? I I don't mean I learned back in the

days. So when I let you [ __ ] is [ __ ] crazy. Yeah. [ __ ] is nuts. C had to change as your perception. Yeah. It's your

perception of C. Yeah. I mean, you I mean, you learn when you do interviews in 2016 and 17 and then you have to see

[ __ ] outside. Yo, hey, you let that [ __ ] say that. I don't give a [ __ ] if you defending me. The same [ __ ] with what Fifth was saying. You let all the

You defending me, cool. But you let them even let them up their game. And you know that something you let them

on there say I have to deal with that years later. So that's what happens.

And that's clip culture. Especially if nothing I said warrants the Yeah. Come on. Come on. Come on. I'm

not I'm not doing that with you [ __ ] Also in local news, not certain if anybody saw,

uh, they put out a list of the best states to live in. New York comes in at

number nine on the list. New Jersey comes in at number three on

that list. Only behind Idaho at number two and Massachusetts

at number one. So, I do want to hit the round of applause because as much [ __ ]

as I talk, never been to Idaho, I guess. So, boy, I might be missing something. I don't know. It might be Boise. Maybe

it is. New Jersey is pretty fly. New Jersey is pretty fly. Uh, and this

is They made this list based off of financial strength. New Jersey boasts the third highest median household

income over $11,000 and one of the lowest median debt levels in the US. Health and wellness ranked

number two for lowest premature death rate, number six for lowest obesity rate, number seven for longest life expectancy. safety leader, officially

number one in safety thanks to low violent and property crime rates and having the most law enforcement uh officers per capita, low poverty and

food insecurity, sixth lowest poverty rate and 10th lowest food insecurity in the country. And lastly, oh not lastly,

uh quality of life from scenic from scenic shorelines to hiking trails, New Jersey offers a mix

of urban energy and natural beauty. I know I'm biased, but New Jersey is one

of the best. New Jersey is flying. It's one of the best. You just got to have money to live here. Everything you listed is correlated to to money.

It is. That's for the most part except for the health and living. Yes, it is. People live longer. They

have better have they have better access have more money have access to better healthare. Yeah. So I'm all I'm saying is it makes

sense. It tracks because rich people live here. There's a there's a you know whatever ways Jersey down is probably Camden and Willenboro and

and you live here. I'm I'm And you live here. It's not just rich people. Yeah. That is rich people. I know. But

he's trying to excuse himself. Oh, no. No. He's in that. No, I There we go. Yo, make some noise for Mark being one

of the rich people. Make some noise for Mark being rich moved to New Jersey out of the main streets of Philadelphia. Come on. Make

some noise. I live in [ __ ] You don't live in You don't even drive. You don't even

drive through. That's where I live. No, you don't. That's where I live. I stay with the people. I stay with the people.

Sure. Congratulations to New Jersey and and all of its residents and Idaho.

And Idaho. I don't know enough about Idaho. Massachusetts I could see be number

reason for the same reason. I thought Connecticut would have been where Connecticut and Massachusetts are in

line condo with us. I thought they would have been there's so many parts of Massachusetts that are like so rich you can't even they wouldn't let us drive through.

True. Didn't matter you downtown. That's Boston.

But the rest of that place, man, is pretty damn fire. Yeah. And Idaho I've been to I it's just too white for me. I made too much money in Boston to ever

say something bad about it. Even though I'm aware of the roots, the most racist experience I've ever had are in Boston.

In life? Yeah. Uh, in life, no. Georgia. But some of the I would say but Boston's in the

top two. Top three. Yeah. Well, Boston's racist as [ __ ] It's a real racist.

Yeah. And they [ __ ] up the uh the statue. The modification.

They ruined I don't know what they did. Oh [ __ ] Speaking of Boston statue, shout out to Tom Brady. got a statue right in front of uh right in front of

the uh Gillette. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to Tom Brady. His statue looks like him. We got to get the

racist statue makers out of the game. The white people statues be looking like them.

That Ronaldo statue was crazy. That D Wayade choice. Did you see the uh Ronaldo ring?

You guys, that ain't no ring. That [ __ ] was I make it a point to see Ronaldo anything. Pause.

Pause. For sure. Wild. What? What?

We too old to be doing the pause [ __ ] now. No, I'm old. We should stop doing that. Okay, y'all

could It's over. All right. Whatever. [ __ ] stop using the wheelchair at the airport. Ain't saying pause. No, I had a wheelchair at the airport.

I had a wheelchair experience this weekend. No. Annie freely shared about it though. Wait, you used a wheelchair at the

airport? We ain't going to rehash that. When you hurt your ankle or something? No, just now. As a healthy healthy

as a healthy uh part of the 1% in America. You wa

free% free. I know how much you make. I got access to payroll. Yeah, you you up there. He's

in the 1% of America and he uses a wheelchair in the airport and he's self-conscious about his weight.

I tried I tried to pull Ice this weekend. What happened? I tried to pull ice this weekend. I went to go see weapons. We get in the Uber.

Haha. Oh [ __ ] I ain't buy the tickets. So I get on the thing. Oh [ __ ] It's sold out except for

the accessible. Oh, they don't put no seat there though. But they well so there's more. They say they say yo you can buy the ticket

ticket but if someone needs to take the spot you got to give it up. I said all right that's not a problem. We'll give up the [ __ ] Nope. No no no problem.

So we get there and it's just blank spots where the [ __ ] is supposed.

No. So we sat until someone showed up and then we moved and got the [ __ ] switched. Anyway, I was astonished to learn that they

charge the same price if you bring your own chair. If you bring your own chair. It doesn't

seem right to me. Yeah. That's [ __ ] up. It don't seem right. You should get a discount. You should get a little something. You should.

What? Wow. I didn't know that for just the little Yeah, just a space. Just a space. You got to pay the same

thing. Just a space where a seat could be that I could be charging regularly. Nah,

that's [ __ ] You got to have you got to have the accessibility in there. It's like it's the law. So, you should look. We got to charge the

same price. Want people who can't walk to be able to see the that part. Yeah, exactly. Y'all are evil people.

Bring in their own chair. No, no, no. I'm cool with that. It's just they shouldn't be paying the same

as the I think they should get a little I think they should go for free. But that's just me. Me, too.

And Joe, why the [ __ ] you ain't going to see Weapons yet, bro? Uh cuz my girl is coming in. Oh, you see? We all went to see Weapons

thinking that you was going to see it, man. I know. And then I spoke. He told us all to go. I'm glad I did go. That [ __ ] was dope.

It was super fire. And I'm glad we saw it at night because it was that walk home was a very uncomfortable.

I'm not gonna spoil. I'm not you. We ain't gonna spoil. We ain't going to spoil. Spoiler alert. Anyway, y'all go ahead.

Hit the skip button. Yo, when I left the cuz I left the movie theater like 1:00 in the morning, right

with the eye pick after watching that movie driving with nobody in the streets, no cars. Weird. I'm like me,

Princess and Nico. I'm like what the they like I'm like what the [ __ ] is going on? Yo, me and Rem was walking

down Steinway and she's freaked out. Like we were like, "Oh, we can dip off here." She's like, "No, there's more lights here. Let's stay right here."

Exactly. And then when we get to the crib, dude comes running by. Like,

it's over. This is over. If I see anybody like this, it's a rap.

You're in the left room. You got to keep up for yourself.

The girl told you to leave your girl. He ain't got to keep up. Damn. No, they got to chase me. They got to chase me.

At some point, can y'all review the movie for the people that about say

we get into it, Joe. Damn. Tell me tell me the premise. All I know is some kids are missing. All right. So, the premise is um a

entire third grade class gets up and walks out of their homes at 27 a.m. And all the ring cams

captured. Don't hijack somebody's read. All but one student.

How you deal with me and straw? I'm not over here either. All but one student. Now the movie doesn't focus on

that happens quick and now the rest of the movie is POV dealing with the aftermath of that

is from everybody involved. So it starts with the teacher then it goes to um it's like a parent student the one student that

was left behind the cop like that. So it's it's retelling the story but

through everybody else's eyes. Mhm. Without spoiling it. Oh, that [ __ ] was good. I see. I see what Jordan Pill was

mad at. In terms of scariness, I don't watch a lot of horror, but like Sinners was like there's moments where it made your heart

jump. Was this more scary? Oh, no. It's jump scares. There's jump scares. It's good. There's some gore. There's

some gore, but it's not crazy. Nothing. It's not over the Well, the gory scenes are Yeah, but it's not like

it's not Final Destination where every 5 seconds it's just gore or it's not that. Okay. It was more funny to me than gory.

There was some funny parts. Yeah. Like intentionally funny or just so both. Yeah. A little bit of both.

Okay. So, y'all would recommend seeing this? Absolutely. If we were giving grades on this, y'all gave center a grade. I just got to ask

you what grade would you give this? Oh, I love see out of 10. Same thing. It's up there. Does anybody know why they were running

like this? Was that explained? I don't know. But if I I know I better not see nobody do that [ __ ] though.

You make it hard for me. Are we two hours in already? Yeah. What's wrong with you, girl? What? I didn't say anything.

I didn't say anything, ma'am. Parks literally just What's wrong with the question? I really just demonstrated.

So, we were done. Like, we were closing out. I thought it was free. I just was asking like a last question. Sorry, ma'am.

Okay. Now, did that explain to us why they ran with their hands up? It was a really good movie. It's scary, but it's not a horror movie. That's not

A lot of horror movies are not good movies. This was both a good movie and scary. Agree. Agree. And a story I ain't seen before.

Yeah. Originality. I will say to the Jordan Peele point, they played the trailer for the new Jordan Peele movie at the beginning.

Which one? Him. Run. I'm I might be on board with y'all. Jordan Peele hat the football one.

Football one. That [ __ ] looks horrendous. Marlo Wayne. Yes. Yeah. No, I told y'all

that [ __ ] looks horrendously bad. Really? I'm very I I understand his point and I'm happy he didn't get the movie.

Oh, he was offered this movie to or something. Uh the the word was he fired like his team or whatever because he

wanted this movie. He wanted to direct this movie. He didn't get it. He would have ruined this.

Exactly. So, thank you whoever didn't do that. I appreciate it. Salute. Salute. Now I was able to enjoy it.

Little tech update. AOL announced as of September 25th. After 34 years,

Mark, I know you're older, but no more dialup. They announced the dialup service officially ended on September 25th

of this year. Of this year. Of this year. Who the what [ __ ] People still use it.

They do dial up. Do they still send the floppy disc? You hear that?

All that [ __ ] So, just that was a tech update. That's just letting y'all know. So, if you have a time change of service, this UFC story though is a

thing that I actually care about. I'm actually very very interested in this. They signed a 7.7

billion dollar deal. Holy [ __ ] Billion would be with Paramount/CBS.

So, there's a lot of things happening in in the in the landscape right now, but this UFC deal is huge and it says a lot

about how far the UFC has come as well. You I mean, so I just want to know what y'all thought about about cuz I know Flip, you're into

WWE. Yeah. WWE. So, I know that's another one of those monsters in Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They We didn't talk about

the ESPN mergers and acquisitions last week. It's all kind of falls in the same bucket.

Um my thing for the the UFC [ __ ] Um, so I overheard that they were only worth 6

billion collectively. So for them to give somebody else 7.7 billion even though it's over a stretch of years that means

you got a whole bunch of promise. Yes. You know what I mean? Like you think this going to be big. And then the

second thing was we talked about this briefly. Uh the kid I think it's Larry Ellison's son

owns a company a small company called Sky Dance. And they bought um that's not small. It was small, but they

bought Showtime and Paramount. Jesus. And this is Yo, my dad's just one of the richest [ __ ] on the planet. So, yeah.

I'm just It feels like we're getting to a moment. Yeah. Let me hold it for something. It feels like we get to a moment where

there's only going to be two channels. What' you say? If it just feels like we're getting to a moment where

it's going everybody going to just be getting bought out by the Yeah. Like it's like the radio. It's like the old radio days where you used to have a million stations and it wind

gets whittleled down or whatever. That scares me a little bit. seen with the uh ESPN and Fox are both launching sports

apps and they're going to do a package deal for him. So to that point, yeah, getting much smaller,

there's a big conversation at the NABJ this year national. So

listen, 7 billion is 7 billion no matter how you slice it. Word is a lot of money. The UFC is already huge, but

almost you you got to overpay just for the bidden war that exists cuz you know what time it is. What I was most shocked

by is them saying that this is the end of pay-per-views and everybody who has Paramount can watch

the app can watch. That part is interesting to me. That is interesting. I'm skeptical of that. You pay 7 billion and you relying on I

had Paramount and have for a while. It don't seem like it's a lot of us. But that would have to be wrong.

Yeah, that has to be wrong. Especially once they brought Showtime, man. Like I I catch I find myself going to Paramount. Paramount Apple. Them the

two those are the two. Those are the two now. Yeah. Yeah. For me, that's what I do. I don't really go to the other the two. Let's

not get crazy. There there's a few climbing the range. That's why I live in

terms of programming that people are like, you know, really tuned in like the whole Taylor Sheridan um um L shows are

all over Paramount. Um so, it's growing and just through acquisition, it's just going to keep on growing.

I watch Paramount way more than I watch HBO and I never thought I would say. I don't remember the last time I cut HBO on anymore and for a minute they was

them. Yeah, I don't think I watched anything. Listen, I brought a few it was months ago where I said, "Hey, has Apple taken

the HBO Max Thunder from them?" Yes. And I think that part is like,

boy, that smoke that [ __ ] is fire. I still I couldn't get into the first

episode. I got to watch it at different time. Smoke. Smoke, dog. These last two episodes of

smoke. Three. Six was fire, too. Okay, granite. Yeah, for me, seven and eight

that was that was they are killing this [ __ ] Smoke is fire. I don't want to

nothing I can say about it cuz I spoil it, but Smoke is fire. The finale is this week.

The arson's are so good at acting. Now, the one complaint I do hear people

have about Smoke is that uh Homeboy's character turned for them too fast.

Okay. My My response to that is his character turned in episode two.

Maybe even one. He was a little If we talking about the dude Eggy, yeah, he ain't seem like he was on the up and

up in one. I only got I only watch episode one. I ain't finish it because it it kind of Right. You I had to be in

a different space to watch it. But he I had assumptions that he was on [ __ ]

from the day one. Yeah. He was he was sketchy from the go. Yeah. When he was finding the [ __ ] in

the fire, showing it to shorty. I'm like, yo, they ain't Yeah. Where smoke wins or these episodes that I'm

highlighting, they not scared to give us the face off that we've been waiting for. In episode seven, that was the

interrogation room scene. And in episode, that was the diner scene between

the Smlette girl and and him chef's kiss. Can't wait for the finale.

Congrats. And it seems like they're expecting a second season cuz it says series or season finale.

They're getting a They're getting a second season. Yeah, I've said that before and been wrong. About to say I've said that before and been wrong.

I have gotten that wrong on some shows that I thought were amazing. There was a show uh what's the guy who used played Doogie Hower?

Uh Neil Pack. new show called Uncoupled on Showtime that that was amazing and critically

acclaimed didn't get a second one and it should have uh about Lovecraft rap [ __ ] I thought

was dope. I thought that show got better and better and and they didn't bring Well, they just took off of a whole bunch of black shows. Yeah, it's just

like the sometime I worry about like the money and when they shrink the the um

the number of platforms I worry that if something is really good and the wrong executive or doesn't see it, you know,

that way or you putting the numbers based on the demographics, then it's going to be almost have an unfair um

right advantage for the white shows. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? And I don't want everything to live on Tuby and I know I like Tubi and I like

what they're doing, but I just I want there to be other platforms. You have Tuby? Yeah, I have everything. Didn't that [ __ ] support that pizza [ __ ]

What? Don't worry about it. I have a call back. That's well done. I

have uh I have every I buy I buy all the platforms cuz I don't ever want to miss out on Speaking of uh removing black [ __ ] I

want to ask y'all when's the last time any of y'all been in Target? I'm in Target all the time.

I've been in there about four to five times in the last two months.

Like, did we win? I haven't been in there in a long time. It's kind of an ongoing thing. It's looking like we won. It's looking

like we won. I haven't been in there. I've been I know we don't highlight it cuz no way to ever tell cuz they won't never tell

us. No, they they've told it looks like we won. What What does the winning look like? Just that they brought

Target has been empty. Oh, got you. I ain't seen a soul.

Oh, you know what? The line's been short. The selfch checkout been short. regular registers.

They used to it'd be like two open now. Mhm. So, check out don't be that. Yeah, you Oh, we won.

You're absolutely right. Jesus Christ. God damn. This [ __ ] is dropping. No, they getting their ass whooped.

Yeah, he's looking at the stock. They've been getting their ass whooped all year. $106US 216%.

This went from Oh, this is 6 months ago was at 162 down to 1067 somewhere around

there. Yeah, we won. Oh, yeah. We won. So, you know, the next phase they're going to be bringing [ __ ] to bring us back.

Oh, they've already started. Yeah. I mean, big picture. I wouldn't be surprised if Run DMC crazy legs.

Well, they should just do what they [ __ ] promised to do. That's what they should do. Those initially. Or they could do what Red Lobster did.

Put some seafood boils up in that piece. I mean, stop that [ __ ] with a young black CEO.

Yeah. Come on now. Look at us winning against Target. That's right. That's right. I'm happy about that.

I ain't been in there. I ain't want to go back to Paramount. I'm just looking at something here cuz they got the $7.7

billion deal with UFC and then last month they just did a $ 1.5 billion deal

with South Park to take them off of HBO. Mhm. No, what South Park did is monumental.

We never talked about it. [ __ ] is so [ __ ] amazing. What South Park did them boys, bro. 50 episodes, 10 a season. and the

bidding award that they created and what companies were vying to do to get that

one show. Yeah. And what they got paid for one show. It goes to my it listen

many years ago I said you want to be the office instead of the thousand shows.

Who cares about the thousand? The office is keeping the lights on at [ __ ] Netflix. Friends is keeping

the lights on. South Park is keeping the lights on. All of them other shows go have a blast.

They just started season 27. That's crazy. Yeah. No, nobody ages.

We need to go write some cartoons. Yeah. Nobody's going to age, [ __ ] The Simpsons was on since Yeah. the 80s.

Yeah. So, nobody It's some money. Something Something else is going on.

Cheek code. You ain't got to pay no actors. Um, what else is important? What else is important and needs our attention? We

have Nikki and Dez. Peace up. Yes, they squashed it.

I'll hit the round of applause cuz Dez Bryant. Dez Bryant. Oh yeah, Dez Bryant. Okay.

Yes. Not Desiree. Yeah. Nikki and Dez Bryant tweeted each other. They made up. I don't give a [ __ ] But

I'm telling y'all, I respected it. Also, this weekend, this weekend, we've been

talking about the SeaWorld performances. This weekend, Genuine is at SeaWorld.

Look at Mel ready to pack a bag. You kind of dressed like on some SeaWorld [ __ ] This is what you would wear to the

SeaWorld concert. It is. It's It's comfy. But um I don't know if I'd be running to see Genuine

perform. No shade. Just you know why? Not for any other reason other than he

just he's sorry not high on the list. Like there's other people that I would run to see world to see.

Like who? Trina October. I mean did new edition. Did y'all see um the videos

going around of the fans requesting refunds at the Jinguan show?

Why? I did not see that. And it wasn't because of dancing. It wasn't because of falling off the stage.

What was he yo sometimes you could tell when all right you could just chill out

now. You good. Use a TV track. Yeah. Something get some accompanyment. I It was bad.

It was bad. It was bad. Shout out to Juwan. It was bad though. That's disappointing. It was bad. Disappoint. I was watching Sean

Stockman. You know, Sean Stockman has his own platform. My guy, he's been killing the acoustic lately. He's grown his guitars, but he was

singing with Bobby Brown and um Bobby he let Bobby Bobby let Sean

accompany him and pick up some of the tougher notes. Bobby stayed in his range and he didn't try to do too much. And I

actually think that's the secret to some longevity. When I watch some of these singers, they go on stage and they try to sing like it's still 94.

Oh, you got to change the key. Yes. You got to change that key. Yeah, that's the key. That Yeah, you got to change the key.

You're not hitting them high notes anymore, Playboy. Right. And when you try to do that and don't, it sounds crazy. And people want their money back.

Yeah. We saw uh Bon Joie probably, it's probably close to 10 years ago now. He had to change all the keys. He wasn't

doing all that shrilling [ __ ] Yeah, you at 70 years old or whatever he is. I spoke to Sean Starkman yesterday. He's

doing really good. Um and I just want to shout his part out. I love his great shout out.

Yeah. Really talented guy. I him and Bobby I learned so much from that him and Bobby Brown interview. That [ __ ]

Bobby Brown was going out there with no drawers on to get rid of Alb Shaw off the tour cuz when he was doing the dork

[ __ ] I think Bobby Brown might be the inventor with a dork and a drop down derk. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He dropped down hit you with

them full. What was the drop down derk? Drop all those.

You drop down and der. I was trying to get Ish demonstrate again. When I did that, it would be his

funeral. in two weeks. Um, yeah. So, shout out to Sean Stockman. Uh, what else? What else?

What else? What else is important but not that important? Nobody wants to talk about the Tyler flop, right?

And why and why we think that may be. Uh, if I do it, I'm going to look like a hater. The same the same with our love

bombing topic. So, help. She put out EP, right? Tyler put out an EP. I wasn't going to say nothing about it, but [ __ ] it. Tyler

put out an EP and it sold 4,000 copies. Somebody brought to my attention. They think a song on there is a diss record

to me. Mr. Media. Oh [ __ ] I bought that EP and came came in here

and biged it up. You did? Let me see if I can play Mr. Media. Really? I haven't I didn't see anything about it

really. Like no promo. Nothing. I did see it in my saw that it dropped, but that was it outside of you playing

the record. It was a strange choice to drop a

Shut up. I don't even um maybe now somebody could tell the truth. And what would the truth be?

Read the room. The truth would be read the room. And that whole I'm from South Africa and we

use colored over there had longl lasting ramifications. Yes, it does. Back to being in the people business.

Back to my point about Ari and being in the people business. Cool that that's what happens over there. But as a young

artist in America, you should read The Room.

For the people that aren't in music, why this is a thing is you don't go from having a smash like water to selling

4,000 of an EP. That's odd. It's very odd. That's odd. That's odd. It's not It's not supposed

to happen like that. It's saying it's saying something if you're wondering why this is a topic. So, Reading the Room would be catering

to a certain demographic. Is that Reading the Room? Because what if people want to just stand on their own? Like I

stand on my own beliefs and stand on who I am. I stand on what I believe in and I want the world to accept me for that. You willing to take what come with it?

Yeah. Then take what comes with it. A lot. Okay. Yeah. Then you take what comes with it. There's people that and 4,000 copies and

I don't think that's what her or her team wanted. But Tyler, I'm going to defend Tyler. Uh

Tyler is young. Yeah. She she she seem she makes good music.

She does. She does make good music. And I think that reading the room incorrectly can be fixed and addressed.

So there's a future for Tyler in America as an Afrobeast act or whatever she's

trying to do. For Tyler's team, good for y'all. Tyler, we not No, she'll be fine. But

Tyler's team, the people that be behind her in the interviews feeding her the stupid [ __ ] to say in America. Yeah. No,

you totally dropped the ball. And totally dropped the ball. Let me see something here. Let me see something. I don't know if they knew that that was

what was going to happen though when she like had that. That's called dropping the ball.

You got you That's called dropping. Had to do the research to know, man. You know that. Yeah, I guess. You know, I guess

you don't believe so. completely flopping with really what Tyler's EP completely flopping with only

hitting like 4,000 sales I think this week should be the biggest lesson that

you can ever learn if you are someone who is trying to grow a brand or a

business in any capacity. I agree. Okay. She is a great example of what happens

when you intentionally build up an audience because you think it's profitable, right? like she has a huge

or had a huge black American audience within the genres that she creates

music. I mean, she had one of like Water was like one of the biggest songs I think what was that last year,

maybe two years ago, dropping her EP and it completely flopping after

she made comments and doubled down on that was a mistake. What the black American community felt

as disrespect. But when we said that then nobody said nothing. Poor audience. The worst thing that you can do as a brand is to alienate your

audience. Is to switch up after you have already profited off of them. And I

think that's one of the main things or main reasons why black Americans chose

to just stop consuming Tyler is because of some of those comments that she made.

And this is a mistake that a lot of brands and influencers make all the time. Look at Hub's life and the

backlash that he got when he switched up his content. other influencers recently that have

built up a a brand, built up an audience, made a ton of money. You get the point.

I don't know that influencer that she mentioned, though. New I don't disagree. I mean, I I don't I don't know if it's

But once switch up your content, I don't disagree with her points. I think she's absolutely right. I don't know that I would blame the 4,000

strictly on that. I think that as music people, we didn't even know it

was dropping. I was going to say they did a shitty job in marketing. Hey, we ain't just win with Target, [ __ ] I'm going to keep telling y'all.

I don't want to say it cuz Flip going to say I'm on some uh FBA [ __ ] I'm not. But no, I'm not saying But but you know,

it ain't just Target. It ain't just Target. But there's a but there's a lot of there's a lot of people right now in media coming out saying that

saying what you're saying. I think Tyler will be all right because she's a talented woman.

So I think she'll be fine. But this should this should be a lesson. I just want us to have more grace though still

for for people too, you know. Um I'm thinking about artists like Kanye. I'm

thinking about art I'm just think about just how many artists say the wildest [ __ ] far more disrespectful to our communities.

But the we let them go if they have enough slaps. But if you the problem for me comes with the double

down. Like you can say something and then once you're educated that yo that was kind of [ __ ] up what you said

which she was. Your response to that is where people going to say all right

now I'm not [ __ ] with you. That's fair. That's fair. Like if you respond to that the right way, you think everything's cool.

It can turn it can turn for you. It can work out. Okay. But when you double down with it, all right, that's what you want. Cool. Now

we off you and now you got to live with whatever you could stand in your [ __ ] In other important slash unimportant

news, are y'all keeping up with the beef between Finesse two times and his mom? No, I am not.

School. Uh, Finesse Two Time's mom is saying you made all these millions of dollars and

didn't turn around not once to look back and help any family member with anything. And you're spending about $4

million on all them [ __ ] that you run around with and the chains and yada yada yada. Spend 4 million [ __ ] dollars.

Wait, wait, hold on. Stop it. You made that [ __ ] sound far more dignified and articulate than what we set us up.

I'm telling you what, mama. Hey, she ain't hold. She ain't wrong. Million [ __ ]

million [ __ ] dollars on a

flying [ __ ] back and forth. That's pocket watching. Mom, that's what you spent your money on.

Jewelry. You ain't spend it on family. You just spend it on family.

And when a [ __ ] did get some, get what? They got to do something for it. It

ain't genuine. I love family. Keep your money.

Oh man. On another note, she looks very young. We had we had an argument, but not argument. We had a disagreement about

this a while back, but I was saying that as a parent, the parent deserves some of that money. And y'all looked at me like

I was crazy. I still feel that way. Explain it to me because I don't

remember the conversation. It's just if I'm a child star or forget child star, if I'm a star and I make a

lot of money, I can spend it any way I want. Correct. But if my but if I have a good

relationship with my parents, forget third cousins and all that [ __ ] I'm not saying everybody deserves a piece, but to me,

you know, if I'm to her point, if I'm making millions, some of the millions got to go to mom or or dad. What if I don't have that relationship

with them? That's different. and and I don't know their situation. I'm not speaking to their relationship. I don't know their relationship. But what I'm saying is I

hear a lot of people say it's my money. I earned it so I could do what I want with it. I'm saying that's true. And I'm saying I don't always I don't

necessarily feel that way. Legally I do. But in terms of like ethically in terms of how we're cut, I just I can't imagine

making that much dough and not breaking down the family. Oh, I can.

When that's where does that stop? No, I just got a vivid imagination. I wouldn't do that. But stop doing that. I just know you're not

like I can't imagine if I

do this. That's true. There we go. I think maybe that's why I'm so [ __ ] This nigga's crazy.

I mean, freeze. You ask like when does it stop? Not when does it stop? One. And also I just have an issue with the deserve part

like cuz that almost sound like you owe him. Well, you wouldn't be here if it wasn't for her. Do you This [ __ ] freeze.

Your mom raised you and your brother wouldn't be here. If it wasn't for but I would do it not because I owe it to you.

It's I I'm I'm blessed to be able to do it. I want to do it. It's not obvious. But you don't think your mom but

I'm just going on that word. It's just out of obligation. So your mom doesn't deserve those things for me. I feel like yes. I feel not I

don't owe her though. I don't owe her. Ice don't come from a broken home either though.

Wait, what's a broken home? I don't know. I don't come from no broken home. [ __ ] watch your [ __ ] mouth. You said the word, [ __ ] I don't know

what it is though. How you know he don't come from one if you don't know what it is? That's my question. Cuz he don't come from one parent.

What is a broken home? Broken home as in somebody's missing. [ __ ] is [ __ ] up. Y'all eating Cheezits

for dinner. It's technically somebody's missing me.

A parent is missing. Yes, most wanted list. Like what?

Did you hear what Mel said? I'm just trying to You said missing like there's different versions of Don't chime in no more. Just talking.

I was going to say don't chime in ever. Not in the home. Anyway, I'm just with you at NBJ.

Listen, I know he responded via a rap from a hotel room

ac cappella, but he was doing the beat on the on the dresser. He killed it. I I didn't know that's that was to his

mom. Yes. Please play it. He was singing and rapping, right? That was the hardest [ __ ] I ever heard. [ __ ] was fly as hell. my timeline, I

think. Yeah, this guy's talented.

It's going to take you a [Music] say if you fall, went to jail. Came

home, went to jail again, came back again, went straight in, caught the beans, went f then I lost a lot of

friends, five years, relatives, family problem. Now I feel like Eminem. This song [ __ ] gone meal problem now

bipolar schizophrenic paranoid trust you know that hey what that mean [ __ ] [ __ ] from

juvenile to the county to the pen all the way to Mason PSI ain't right kick the paper no cooperation United States

versus Ricky Hampton no I ain't p in rock I fought the US Marshall caught me

with the cannon but I'm back though relax though the principal I'm just being cocky cuz I live with a rapper I

really got them wounds on my body Baby,

it's going to take your army. It's going to take you on say if you fall. Where

were you on visitation day? I tears. Where were you when the fed lawyer told me I was facing 10 years? Huh? Back up.

Prosecutor shine on me. Lab me out. Now I [ __ ] a [ __ ] and pay a [ __ ] and kick her out.

Real estate manipulate limonate on any day in my way. I put it on the fire.

All right. Well, it sounds like there's a little bit of dysfunction there. Mom, if you can't speak better than

that, I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what to tell you. My only problem with what mom said is, and when

you do give us money, you or the family money, you want people to work. I don't think there's anything wrong

with that. I don't think that's what we're saying. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. It's seeming like this particular

situation. Listen, I I can't speak to their family [ __ ] cuz everything he said in that rap make me be like, "Yeah, it's [ __ ]

I'm with him. I'm with him." Right. I love you, Mom. I don't mean it like But that rap is hard. I I get what he said. Again, I don't

know the story, but in general, like to me, like you shouldn't have to earn it. Like like earning it for your parents is

they raised you, they protected you, they gave you [ __ ] they created space for you to do that. Again, I'm not

speaking to his protection. I'm saying in this case, I'm with him. If what he's saying is true, I'm with him 100%.

And the mom didn't say when you give me money, you want me to work for it. She said, "And when you do give the family

members money, what she kind of speaking for the rest of the family." That's a very big difference. That is a

big difference. might be a lot of grow up. My mother, my if I had like Oh, good

question. Younger siblings and all that other [ __ ] then I would of course take care of them and they wouldn't have to work without

me. Yeah. But your uncles, your aunts, and all them other [ __ ] like, "Yo, dog, if you want me to just be giving you

money, no, you have to now." Auntie Pearl, you got to do some yard work. Oh, we know. You have to You have to do

something. Like, I'm not going to just keep giving you fish. Let's once you're up, they start looking at you like a

it's not playing [ __ ] You catch flashbacks for everybody. I don't have a flashback for everybody. Where's that line?

Same. If it's if it's not the ones that y'all are taking care of grandparents, older people, immediate family, that's

the line. But extended them and people who are [ __ ] up. I just sent somebody money on like last week.

Cool. But that sending them money is uh taking care of them and sending the money. Oh, you mean like on a regular

like I'm paying your rent every month? Yeah. I'm not doing that. There's people that look at you like you will always be the saving grace. You

will always be the last resort. Always. And then you become the second to last resort. And then you become the first

resort. All right. Just so the audience has a clear understanding, when is the last time each of you gave your mother some

money? Today. My mother today. Your real mother?

Today. Not one of them girls moms. I don't know what you talking about

the girl mommy. You know I got you

a one of them. I don't know what the [ __ ] you talking about. I go to the store. I knew you had no

more tomatoes.

Hey yo, make that make that meatloaf you used to make for me. Yeah,

please. Um, cash money or bought her something? I What's the difference?

No, it's not. I haven't given her cash like in her hand. Anything, dog. Oh, no. Just this weekend.

Just this weekend. Yeah, just this weekend when you was out with Parks at last lap. No, that was last weekend. That last lap? You probably cash at mom?

No, no, no. How about you, Mark? I was with mom. It's been a few years. It's been a few years.

You look great. It's been a few years. I don't give her cash obviously.

Yeah. Um but she can't see so Yeah. She don't even remember. All singles. Um No, it

said all singles. It I put her in the facility she's in.

Me and my brother did. And that was like six figures. So we like split it, put her in there. Did she know it was y'all?

Yeah. You don't pay that every month? It It's It's Some you pay like a lot up front, a little bit every month. Others

you pay a little bit up front and a lot every month. We did the first kind. So she pays for out of her retirement the

little bit, but we paid the the big amount. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Y'all make your mom pay for her spot out of her.

Yes. Oh, come on. What should she do with it? Oh, it's going to take me a

Yeah, let her talk. It's going to make one of those barks.

Uh, I really don't remember. I mean gifts obviously birthdays, holidays, but just slide some cash. I don't I

don't I really don't remember. My mom My mom is up [ __ ] My mom is [ __ ] don't give a [ __ ] about my mom.

My mom father still living like Yeah. And also she I give her things to donate

to the causes that she wants to donate to and that's what she would do with the money anyway. What do Park's dad being alive have to

do with him giving his mom some money? Outside of he's saying outside of occasions, holidays, etc., etc., his

mom, I'm assuming, don't need it. Cheeto.

All right. My bad. Yeah, it's going to take me. All right. No. Cool.

Cool. Cool. That's funny. My mom be at this Chris Brown show tonight. I'm excited about this Chris Brown show. You give me my money. Are

y'all going? All I hear about points right now. All I hear is MX points. I didn't know if you actually give cash in

there tomorrow. My mom get gets it all. Really? The the points, the cash, the cash apps,

the zel. Did she expect it? The sunglasses. I expect it. My mom come in my house. All right. I'm taking [ __ ]

out of here today. What do you have? Yo, your bags. That's what she's always

That's my mom. My mom. My mama like this. Anything I got, she got. Anything she got, I got. So it's kind of

understood. But now that I'm up, it's like different. So she come

I don't need nothing you got. So now she now she taking your [ __ ] for for yo this for my people.

Word. Yeah. She my my mom take my clothes. No, she adamant too. I don't want no hoodies. No, she like yo dog, I need a hoodie for

my trainer. I need two hoodies for me, my boyfriend. I'm like, "Yeah." So, yeah.

All right. Okay. You just got to do it. You can't say no to Yo, she be serious.

Yeah, she'd be dead ass. Yeah, she's serious. Yeah. Your mother called me fat.

When? When? She called me two weeks ago. I was

shocked cuz I haven't She usually text me. My mom need to be arrested. Look, she usually texts me. So, I saw her name like, "Oh, [ __ ] What's up,

Miss F? What you doing? Come to the gym with me." Oh [ __ ]

Well, it's cuz you know, you know, I know I'm trainer. I know. I know. I'm I'm playing for

But that newer couch, what? What about it? Like, look at it. What about it, though?

What about it? It's going to take me He don't like that. I love this [ __ ]

Look at my Look at my man. He don't like that [ __ ] I love that. He waiting, [ __ ] He talking about you

[ __ ] being fat like me [ __ ] He saying you fat. I'm not fat like this. You lost mad way and gain it back

[ __ ] However you did and you going to lose it again [ __ ] What size is this game?

That white beater don't help boy trying to wear a white beater to hold down his fat. That's what you do.

I do. You needed more beers. [ __ ] That ain't working.

All right. We up in this piece. Uh, Ammani seem to have a lot to say about my air Japans and my whole Japanese funu

that I got going on. Culturally inappropriate.

Y'all look culturally inappropriate and y'all push a picture, [ __ ] [ __ ] y'all. You just hating cuz you wasn't there.

Haying from outside the soul house. He couldn't get in. That's outside the Soho house. Anyway, shout out to the clips. Uh, and

[ __ ] you, Ammani. What's up? I said just stand up real quick. Stand up real quick, [ __ ]

Hold on. Stand up.

You are. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing.

[ __ ] what in the [Music]

[ __ ] Oh [ __ ] You're a wild boy, son.

Yo yo give him one just one time. Come on. Come on, Mr. Joagi. That's

crazy. [Music]

Give a kiss. Give him a kiss. This thing is crazy, bro.

Oh man, that is nuts. First of all, I want to remind the room that I won

best dress award up here. Salute to you. Yeah. Okay. I mean, Marcus Bed them off. It's won

the sleeper award. They still trying to figure out something to give you. It didn't flip, man. Flip.

You know what I mean? See this? Why you make us go stop? I won the best dress award. Now, fair

point. This does look ridiculous to some people, but you got to be brave enough to wear it. You got to be comfortable in

what you wear. That's fashion. Got it. That's fashion. Like all them shirts you wear that's too small, but you

comfortable. That's fashion. That's fashion. Can't say nothing about nobody fashion. I don't wear too small shirt no more.

Your [ __ ] flip. Queen flip. I don't. You my man. You my man.

I seen your belly earlier. What? See, watch yourself. Cuz I said this not

too small. You too small for me, boss. No, it's not. Thank you. It's better than what you normally doing. True. Okay. I'll do better. I'll do

better. I I'll do better. Is you laughing, [ __ ] You wearing a 4X to

hide your stomach, [ __ ] Watch your [ __ ] mouth. I'm wearing a 4X. You need a 4X. Say who? [ __ ] Says who? I can't believe that.

N is clothes. That's too much. Them clothes is Come on. The sweat scissors. His shorts is a 7X

too big. No, all of it is too big. So that's why No, I'm you guys. We're doing the show.

We're doing the show. That's my ego. My shirt too big today. Your shirt too small every day.

[ __ ] your shorts be small, [ __ ] Watch your mouth, [ __ ] Poop your shorts ass [ __ ] Sorry. Off of our off off of our uh finesse two

times conversation. Uh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Uh, I do

have a fat Joe clip that I want to play. I wrote these. I'm all out of fame. I'm all out of taking every relationship

I ever had, signing you and introducing you to all my important people, and then

paying for your videos, buying your clothes, putting you in the studio, helping you make the hits, and then as

soon as you pop, you tell me I ain't [ __ ] I'm not doing that no more. I'm firm on it. In fact, I went to this

thing pretty Lou be doing this pretty good boy. We love you rap who normally I

would have signed him with one separate. This guy was so nice lyrical fluidity.

Every word he said came crystal clear. Chris said, "Yo, joke. This guy." I said, "Yeah, but he's going to tell me

suck his dick. I've been burnt too many times." Pause.

Next question. Hey, which is my question for my distinguished panel here. Shout out to Joe and Jada. I love this clip cuz it's

absolutely 100% true. Can y'all tell me about a time that you've been burnt investing in somebody?

Yes. Yes. A lot of people. All right, let's listen to my answer

talk. What' you say? Huh?

Oh [ __ ] Yo, are you [ __ ] That was That was dirty. And it's not

true. And it's not true. I caught that. No, go ahead.

No, it's a lot of There's a lot of people that you believe in, you may see talent in and they just feel like they're bigger than the program and and

they'll go out there and and disrespect you and you know, sometimes when you say no, they don't

look at what you've done for them leading up to the no. And a lot of times you saying no now because it's a wise

business decision and you realize that I've done this or I invested this much and then come back. You know what I

mean? And a lot of people don't know how to just get with the program and and re and renegotiate or restructure or help

you restructure it so it could work for all parties. So yeah, it's been a couple of times I've been burned on the internet. [ __ ] talk crazy. I have to

flip the network. [ __ ] talk crazy and that's why I named them independent contractors. Now Mel, what about you? Uh yeah, I've just

it's just manifested in like some real jealousy and nastiness. Um and yeah,

that's why you had to go to the internal route. I'm sorry. You're so I didn't say that. They going to kill me. I'll take it back.

That was a [ __ ] headache, too. Jesus. Yes. That [ __ ] was a [ __ ] headache.

Just like the You got rid of the intern. I didn't get rid of anybody. And nobody was the [ __ ] intern. But like the

label that was given to who whomever they were very upset by it and had nothing to do with [ __ ] me

and they was upset at you. Yes. Uh yes they were upset with me but I have experienced like you know just

did we get rid of that? I think no ser joking around there. There is no getting rid of

anybody at this point. Distance ourselves we created that space. Yeah ma'am. You create boundaries. Big

B. My problem is is that I have always tried to create friendship/ business

relationships and a lot of Yeah. people. No.

No. In actuality, it's the opposite. It's the opposite. I get used. I get

used. And then they start believing that their proximity to my notoriety, visibility, and fame equals theirs.

That [ __ ] is [ __ ] insidious. The [ __ ] that I've seen people do and say and

just as she's pissed over and they still ain't starting no healthcare pod for women. No, the [ __ ] they didn't. They don't

know what the [ __ ] they're doing. Talk about it. Talk about it. Big mouth. Yeah. So, anyways, those are my experiences.

Newer couch, you guys, Mark Parks, anybody want to speak to this? Yeah. I I I it's happened to me a lot of

time with like mentoring people um and trying to create opportunities for people. So, it was less financial investment, more like time investment. I

mean I'm like I can think of one situation where like I invested a lot of time and energy into like mentoring somebody helping them become writers and

I even like put them on a project where all where someone asked me to write something and I said well look I I'll I'm going to bring on these other two

guys. I didn't quite have the time but it was a really prestigious honor and for them it was an opportunity to get put on something they wouldn't otherwise

get put on and I was dealing with some stuff. Long story short like at the end

of the day they took my name off of it. What? and only kept theirs. And they

told me we you were hard to reach, so we we felt like it was the right decision. It wasn't your decision to make. And we

haven't spoken really since maybe once since. It's been about maybe 15 years. And um yeah, Puff, you don't do none of this

beat. So, you know, I I've just learned that

you can't always invest you can't always invest in people the way you want to, and you can't expect them. The reward

has to be the the effort. I can't assume that people are going to act right. I just have to I it almost made me not want to like mentor people anymore.

Same thing. Same thing. Speaking of not investing in people, uh

or speaking of investing in people that you shouldn't have invested in, Mark, not too long ago, you brought up a gentleman. I think this is the same

person. Philly man, who was awarded $4 million after being wrongfully jailed for 24 years for murder, is back in

prison for killing a man over his $1,200 drug debt. Did you see that story? Uh

yes. Is that the same story? Yeah, there's two different stories. Yeah. Not the guy Serge, but this one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was rough.

I got it. But I guess my angle on this story is when can we have a talk about the Innocence Project?

What? Okay. What? What do you guys look at each other like that? Say more, Joe. This guy is crazy.

Everybody else mute up, please. You don't want to be part of this. Go. I'm just saying when can we have a more

detailed talk about how they pick how they pick who's innocent and who's not.

That's all I'm saying. I I I would stand with them. They they they pick the right

people. The problem is that jail prisons are criminogenic, meaning that they make you more likely

to commit crime when you're in there. So sometimes you could be innocent, but if you spend three, three decades in

prison, four decades in prison, you still might come out with some psychological issues. You might be more likely to to use violence against

somebody than you were before you went in. So just because somebody comes out and commits a crime doesn't mean they weren't innocent. And a lot of times the innocence

projects goes based off of like DNA that was not tested or whatever the case is. It's

they're pretty Yeah. Because there's a lot of cases I had a guy maybe like three weeks ago hit me

up. my brother. A lot of time when I'm talking to my brother in prison, like people want to speak to me, so they always be like if if he's cool with

them, he'll hand him the phone. And and then they end up sending me like case files. And I mean, this one this one

dude like his [ __ ] was was to me the evidence was bad. He wanted DNA evidence. He fought for three decades to

get DNA evidence. And then when he when they went to test it, the the district attorney's office said they lost the the

file. They lost the case. So these things happen all the time. Then he got transferred out of the prison like two weeks ago. So I don't I have to find out

where he is. But the point is like a lot of times these guys be innocent, but even then the Innocence Project wouldn't

take it. Not because they're bad, but because they're so overrun that they honestly I feel like if the Innocence Project took your case, you probably are

innocent. To me, it's how many people are innocent that don't get access to the Innocence Project. Yeah. So, well, there you have it.

You and Mel helped to really clear that up for me. I'm glad I have a totally different understanding than I did before about the innocence

project and how they choose choose people and the jail criminalistics things. What'

you say the jail be doing? Crimogenics. Crimogenics thing. Whatever.

[ __ ] Yo, Mel and Mark need a PBS special. These two.

Huh? You don't agree with what he said? I but stop this. I checked out. I stepped on his joke.

Yeah. Yeah. That's the I get where he's going with I'm cool. I'm cool. Mark want to [ __ ] educate me. Won't y'all be funny? I

don't give a [ __ ] I was trying to educate people. Um what what else is important, unimportant? What else needs our

attention? Actually, I want I highlight something you just said. When can we have a talk about when we

press the button on our phone to speak to one person that's in jail and they

pass the phone around to the jail? Can we talk about that? Yeah,

that never happened to me. Never happened. That's never happened to me either. I ain't make I don't like that when it happens.

Okay, I don't like it. This is

I don't want to speak to my [ __ ] I call you call me. I press the call to speak to you, [ __ ] And on top

of that, nine times out of 10, you call me while I'm already in traffic moving around. I don't want to speak to a thousand [ __ ] on the phone. My [ __ ]

what do you need? What's going on? I don't want to meet nobody. But you Queen's finest. I don't want to meet anyone new.

That's my problem, too. When it's your girl, uncle. Like, oh [ __ ]

He cuz he been hearing about me for five, six years or whatever. I give him [ __ ] That [ __ ] had the whole jail

behind him. And this is when the prize fix commercial must have been airing in the jail. I don't know. Patreon got

billboard slots in the jail. Them [ __ ] had questions about the business. And what can you do? You can't say

nothing, right? You just got to kind of sit there. Don't Yeah. Jail, [ __ ] boy. Anyway, hold

your head if you going. Free the wave. Free to wave and support the Innocence Project. No

matter how many things go wrong. That's the way I watched about nine docs

that started or ended with the Innocent Project. The Innocence Project investigated the case. They still got Ste and then this [ __ ]

went on a spree.

[ __ ] must ain't got hula or some [ __ ] Had you just left then at the end

innocent project is unavailable for a comment we reach. [ __ ] I bet get them [ __ ] out that building. Hey, come

here. Oh man, get your ass over here. Something is they got that guy. Remember

Stephen Avery? Something wrong with you.

Anyway, uh what else needs our attention? What is important? What is unimportant? You guys wrote some Trump [ __ ] up there. I don't know who wrote

that, but it's up there. There's the T on her app. Please feel free. Educate me.

I'm going just I I don't want to serious us out. So, I'm just going to do 25 seconds. My

25 seconds. The world is on fire update. Let's do it. Let's do it. The world is on fire.

ICE is going crazy. We're seeing more lawlessness with immigrants. uh the innocence

US district attorney Janine Piro just said that she's going to double down on crime criminalizing juveniles uh in DC

which means you're going to see more laws fewer like diversion programs and more actual like incarceration and then

around the world we're seeing violence everywhere including Gaza where I work for Alazer my colleagues every colleague

I have in Gaza has been murdered every single colleague I have in Gaza has been murdered so we got a lot of work to do a

lot of stuff to pay attention to that's pretty good all right young thug dissed Uh, I get

scared every time he do that [ __ ] He do it so fast. You got to Everybody know.

Oh my god. God damn. He doing it again. That [ __ ] Mark Boy.

Why you don't never support him when he start talking that [ __ ] I support him very well. Pizza. He has my full support. But I also know

that once he says something like that or we discuss something like that, then we're just like, okay, what's the

[ __ ] pivot? What's the pivot after we talk about every journalist in on the Gaza Strip being murdered? Like what's

the pivot? So Young Thug appeared on Little Baby's

project. Quite the project. It was a snippet. Snippet comes out Friday.

Comes out Friday. I got it. You like to hear it? Here it go. Let's see. Can't

Oh, this sounds horrible. Yeah, it sounds horrible. This sounds horrible. Anyway, Young Thug says, "Uh, I only [ __ ] with you,

Gunner, because of troop." That's the lion. That's the bar. That's it.

I I don't I don't care. Honestly, Gunner

is lapping y'all [ __ ] right now. So, right now, yeah, you should probably should say his name. Sorry, I'll be the

one to say it. It's helping you to say Gunner's name right now. going to not think about none of y'all [ __ ] who

claim y'all beefing with him. He has hit the ground running, ain't looked back, and has ran maybe his third lap around

y'all. All of y'all, every last one of y'all who was dissing him probably need to say

his name today to get some traction. And yeah, that includes Thug. Sorry, Atlanta. I love y'all, but outside of

Atlanta, we don't care like that. The [ __ ] you put out ain't the little snippets and all that stuff we heard

ain't nothing working. Meanwhile, Gunonna is on a tear. Y'all won't admit

it, so I'll admit it. Gunner's on a tear. And that's ice on the music side

of things. On the lifestyle side, if I'm an artist

that makes heat and I come sign to you as an artist that make heat and you're a

gang and I'm not, and then they come to get us.

And when I'm separated from you, I tell them I'm not in a gang.

I really don't see what the [ __ ] you mad at.

I don't Yo, I maybe I'm getting anti-hip hip hop as I grow. I cannot understand

this for the life of me. I don't get it. Explain it, Flip. Can you explain?

Only in hip-hop can you be mad at me cuz I'm not in a gang like you. But you you

gain the benefits of of being around a [ __ ] that was in the game. You you you receive the benefits from that. The

protection, the the the the notoriety of your talent is just a smidg on on the on

the board. I come from a a two parent household. No, [ __ ] You came from [ __ ] that was

in Stop it, [ __ ] You I'm not talking about me. I'm speaking as gunner. I come from you. I come from a two parent household.

Oh, sorry. My My parents could put the house up to bail me out of here. Like we can't talk

about the advantages that came with this when it lands me in jail. We see we see we see the end result.

So who cares how you oh you brought 70 [ __ ] with me to starlets. Who gives a [ __ ] Who cares? I'm in jail

and I'm telling them that I'm not down with you and you mad at me about it even

though you got out too. But you would have done that. Everybody's out. But you would have done that. I wouldn't have been in that situation cuz my OG's

are not going to go rent a car and then put it in their name and then drive by

the coliseum. They my OG's are not going to put me in that situation because they love me. And

if you in that situation, you probably dealing with somebody that didn't have as much love for you as my OG's have for me.

Got it. Okay. So, you none of my OG's I'm from the 19s though. I'm from the 19s.

Got it. my the was a protect the community look to protect certain people. I could rap since I was young.

They wouldn't, hey, let that boy go rap. Let let him go rap. Where you going to go? What are you talking about?

None of them [ __ ] and all of the major New York [ __ ] in that scene. I've had

coffee with them. None of them would have met me and said, "Come take this ride with us."

Right? You wouldn't even seen the the funny jersey [ __ ] sitting in India style in front of the diner and say,

"Hey, hey, come Hey, we going on a run. Come back. Come back with me. Come

slide." Nobody was going to say that to me, but that's my story, my experience.

No knock on anybody else. No knock on anybody else. They don't make the OG's like them anymore. Clearly. Clearly. I just don't

understand Thog being I don't get it. Maybe me is somebody can explain it to me. I don't I don't know. I don't

understand rules. I don't claim to understand it. I just stay over there. Yeah, I got it. Uh,

oh, more music [ __ ] though. Um, Cardi dropping a new single Friday. Imaginary Players.

Imaginary Players. Jay-Z sample. Cleared the sample. That's a big deal. Uh, it's a big deal. Uh, at this time

because Nikki has been firing at Jay-Z for however long and now she is on the Jay-Z sample. It's like if you're into

that. I wouldn't I'm just saying. You think that's a You don't think that's a coincidence?

No, I don't. I don't think it's a coincidence been clearing samples. I don't I don't think that's a ho's been

clearing samples. No, that's what I'm saying. I don't think No, but a coincidence that you're saying it is a coincidence.

Like he didn't clear that as a clap back to Nikki. Like I'm I'm a That's the correlation that they're making. Oh, no. I I don't think that had

anything. I'm just thinking it's We'll see how the record sells. That's the real thing that my my point

of bringing it up was she just dropped a single outside.

How many weeks old? One week. I asked when that dropped, did we think

we get more singles prior to the album? The album is now roughly about a month out.

If this one doesn't perform, do we get another single prior to the album? Yes.

Y say yes. No. I say no. No. You're going off that diving board no matter what. Oh, you're going off the diving board no

matter you getting you getting another single. This one don't work. If you for two, I don't think you try to cuz if you over three, now you might have a I think

you just rep the fact that I'm Cardi and people going to buy this album cuz they've been waiting for it. A third single means you spending money on a third single with uh a projection

of how you feel this album might perform. At some point, they'll get into saving money mode because you're going off the diving board anyway. So why are

we about to preview or release another single when we know you're going off the diving board? Yeah.

And we say diving boy, she may perform well, but what we mean is the label is getting this album out no matter what.

There are no more excuses. It's coming out. Oh, no. It's I agree with that. Even at some um at Summerslam, they had

street teams out there putting on all the cars. And y'all know Metife Parking Lot, her album coming soon, of course,

with her performing there and everything. Like, they are in full. We letting everybody know every way we can.

I don't even think barring something insane that this this date this date is

sticking. This is like a hard date. I still like the outside record. I'm not talking about how successful it may have

been for the label. But I do like it. I sing it in the strip club except when it get that that one part that the [ __ ]

can't sing. I'm so small and tiny. He's so big and tall. Let him duck this [ __ ] like he dunk that. I just got to drink

my little juice. What? She put that [ __ ] in the first

verse. So why you jamming? I'm so small and tiny. He's so big and tall. Might let you dunk this [ __ ] like

you dunk the ball. I'm such a bird. You are you stand up in it though.

I don't give a [ __ ] though. That be the fun [ __ ] That'd be the fun part in the club. The bird songs. Jo do not his bird.

Good luck to Cardi. Uh hopefully it does well. I can't wait to hear. I would like to hear what you have to do over an

imaginary player sample. That part I can't figure out. That's what I want to hear. That sample ain't about to magically turn into a

strip club record. And if it do, it might they might find a way. I would be really impressed if that

turns into a strip club record. Yeah, it could be done. Yeah, you absolutely could do it. It depends on what's getting sample cuz imagine the part I think about when I

think about Imaginary Players is actually don't. But that's already somebody else's sample. So I'm think it's going to be a

bar. I think it's going to be way like remember like Swizz was snipping stuff. Um Yes. Like

I think it's going to be like vocals. I think that's what it's going to be. Imaginary players. You got to be shooting at somebody. Yeah, of course.

Which makes sense as to the timing. It might be some I don't see none of that. Like something like that, you know, one of those little one of those

little snippets that's shooting at somebody. That's what I think it's going to be. Okay. Because Cardi can't rap over that tempo.

No of the original. Well, not the original, the Jay-Z imaginary player, right?

She could, but if they were just sampling that track, you would have you wouldn't need Jay-Z's clearance, right?

You would need you would need the original. Is funny. You think she could rap over that? Yeah, she could y'all rapping. He also thought Will I am could say that

about Jay-Z. Hold up. I I He was writing about I had a whole list of [ __ ] that he was writing about. Y'all was Yeah.

I don't I don't hear it. But this ain't as slow as it sounds.

It's 88. It ain't that slow. She got records that are slower than this. You're right. You're right. You're right. Parks is right. Parks is right. Mark,

there you go. Let's go. Talk to Let them know where you from real quick. I don't think she will though. That's is [ __ ] [ __ ]

I don't think she will. I want to be clear. I don't think it will be that Bob. No. No. Not at all. Not at all. But she could.

I think she might get it off. I'm telling you, it's going to be some lyrics. I think she might get it off.

I'm so small and tiny. He's so big and tall. Why is that in your mental rolodex?

She wrote it like that. I know. Well, for them, somebody wrote it like that. for us.

No, not us. No, no, not for us. Might let them knock this [ __ ] like

and and them [ __ ] that be writing it, they be going in there doing the pace and in the tempo for them for sure.

They be doing the rest. I know exactly what [ __ ] in the booth just laying all of

the verses for her. I didn't know you talking about. Yeah, in a way I suck the dick in my man. I was like, wait,

y'all don't hear this [ __ ] Look at your nut ass.

Oh man. Uh, anything else uh anything else on your minds, hearts, and souls, and spirits that you need to get out?

I'm going to be I'm going to be um I think next week I'm going be giving out free jerk chicken for like

Is that what you thought? I'm just saying I'm going be doing that. Come down, get some jerk chicken for free, man. Where?

In Brooklyn. You hungry as hell. You another one. Go home. I'll you know

chicken. Why are you giving out D chicken? I just feel like I want to just get back to the people. Okay. Where in Brooklyn?

Um I get the address here. Okay. Well, I meant like what part, but yeah. Yeah. I I send people there. Tell

me. Yeah. Yeah. I I'll come down. Yeah. What you laughing for, is you want some jerk chicken? Nah, I'm good.

Yeah. [ __ ] out of here, [ __ ] You want some Portugal, [ __ ] Right. Homemade applesauce. They will [ __ ] you up, right now.

No, they won't. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I don't have anything else, but in more local news, uh, I am

sad to report that the legendary nightclub and restaurant Taj

has closed down. Really New York City. Wow. It is a sad sad day for us.

Hey, know it's still open. If you're from the 19, we stopped going. We stopped going. We ain't been no long. But

some really really fun amazing times as Taj in New York City. So please

what's next? Tip tip my hat off to y'all over there at

Taj. Anybody that had a wild or memorable night or just a good night at Taj, man, I dedicate this episode

to you, man. Real sad news. Um I don't have anything else. Oh, EL versus Trap.

Can someone break that down for me? I understand. I've seen online. I see that there's a issue. I know that there's a tension or a beef,

but I'm not in that finance. I feel like we should call an expert.

Is right here. So, vanilla.

I feel like No, let's break it down first with us. Don't look at my phone. You do again.

I go ahead. I have no idea. Oh, h I thought you might.

some other [ __ ] Some other [ __ ]

but you No, but you could you could tell us. I don't have any idea invest I don't

have any idea. They're not inviting you to Investfest to speak no more. Okay. They invited you. They put you on the

small stage. You can tell us now. I've never spoken at festival stage. Here we go. I'm calling Ian Dunlap cuz

nobody here quote unquote wink wink knows what's going on with the EIL verse trap beef. So let's find out. I know

Rashad has been stunting too on too many people for too long. Rashad. That's it. Look, now these [ __ ] don't

answer the phone on Tuesdays. Don't worry, I'mma call Trap next. Actually, I call Rashad. Let me call. Yeah. [ __ ] out

of here, Ian. Shout out to my boy. Shout out to Ian.

All right, let's see. Get this. I think that I, you know, hopefully somebody can give me some clues because I I

definitely want to, you know, deep dive. I asked some [ __ ] at the dinner in the beef ball paws. Yo, what's up? I I'm hearing some [ __ ] I ain't know what I

was talking about. They started to elaborate. I was know what you was talking. He said, "Who saying our name?"

They said, "Every time you come to the P, you try to [ __ ] foot around." That's what I was telling Troy and Rashad. Like, you [ __ ] foot around. Cuz he said

that, "Yo, Flip, you was in a bad mood when we came up there. You don't want us up there." I said, "Nah, when every time we ask y'all a question, y'all just

[ __ ] for the round to answer." Yep. Yep. Yep. Yo. Oh my god. What's

he done? This is Joe Button, Mel Ford, Queens Flip, is Ice Dar Hill, and Parks.

Don't say anything incriminating. We are on air right now. We call We call and get We speaking of family.

Uh we we we call to get the tea. How about

child? you know, uh, about, uh, that money, that money that you loaned to Trap,

that money you loaned to Trap that he didn't give back. And he said that y'all had a conversation off Mike and you

still went on air and said that nutshit. That's what he said. [ __ ] I never said or implied that I

loan trap money. Oh, all right. But can you speak to us about how all these [ __ ] is beefing with y'all?

Aristotle, you know Aris? Yeah.

Do you know anything about these people beefing with y'all or no? No. I just mind my business and people

make money. I don't involve myself with no beef. You know that. All right. Don't worry. Rashad is my

next Rashad. Rashad is my next goal. See, but that's my problem with y'all. Everybody so scared of

every Yeah. Every year y'all these [ __ ] pump fake on the beef is my problem where they let a little bit out

that says we hate each other and then when the public is interested oh no man we just chilling every year before us or

no oh go

same roll out [ __ ] every is that true

all right so this is roll out Ian I'll ask y'all

Who when I first met everyone up there was I not saying Microsoft, Nvidia,

Bitcoin and get people then follow suit. Yes. Is there is there issues that people may

have? Cool. But the timing of it is always interesting to me. It's my job to not and even with this [ __ ] that

happens. If everyone's making money, why is there conflict? Pedab

There should be no conflict if people making real money. I just left Mexico, Puerto Rico, Bahamas. Left my house in

Mexico. I don't have no time for no drama with nobody like, even if they don't like me. Love to everybody.

Got you, my boy. All right. Well, how you feel about Rashard showboating around town for the

last four or five years in other continents, wearing all of that

exclusive Prada, his words, not mine. Well, how you feel about him? Sharp

sharp shape up, huh? Steve Harvey, all the select Magic Johnson on the yacht.

Like, how do you think that the financial community? How do you how do you feel like your peers would respond to that type of

showboating in in the community? Some like it, some don't like my

approach on how I talk about investing and say there's bravado behind it. And I get that. Like I think I've always said

even in the criticism, there's something to learn. I've told you that privately. You told me privately. Talked to Ishelot

about it. There's some truth and some criticism. You just have to use it and adjust accordingly. And I think he's

done a great job, especially over the last year, making adjustment. But I don't have a beef nobody. And I think the stupid

at a time when the community needs us more than ever, that this [ __ ] is even

happening. Indeed, I agree with that. Oh, you want to talk? Some good diplomatic roof.

Inflation is through the roof. Uh billions are being printed in AI. None

of us own none of the AI company I've been trying to get into some of these companies to invest in. We are not

allowed in. But this is the commentary line.

And the other part of it too, some of some of the money drying up.

Talk about it. Now we talking. Hey, speak to that. Some of the money is drying up for some of your peers. content creation

for across the board is drying up. Whether you like him or not with Trump

coin with the deal that he deal with and Trump is working his ass off as

president cuz he know there's a contraction coming. But what about trap? Oh, you made I know

I know about Trump already. Yo, what's wrong with you? Yo, Travis. All right. Well, Ian, I I hope to see

you at my birthday dinner. I knew that you would be I knew that you would be polished and politically

correct. I'm going to call Relle then, sir. Involved in the [ __ ] I'm going to hang up with you and call

Rashad. And I'm letting you know before it happened, I'm going to instigate something out of him. His ego is big

enough to where I'mma say I'mma get what I'm looking for. So, I'll I'll text you.

Don't try to text him at the time. You texting him now. Bye. Bye. Bye. Let's see. Yo, can I can I say

something? I I ain't want to talk to no mess, though. I want to talk to something real. I think it's unfortunate. And the people that I did

speak to with regards to this, I told them all I was disappointed to them. um

that anytime us as black people start getting together, these [ __ ] whether you like them, whether you don't, for

the last 8 to seven, six to about 6 years, these [ __ ] have taken

a space that was unbeknownst to a whole bunch of black people, which is financial literacy, investing, etc.,

etc. They made it cool and they also steered a bunch of people into putting

our money in a place where we could become self-sufficient and financially free. And so the fact that we are now

that the some of the lead [ __ ] in that industry are beefing, I think is [ __ ] up. And I think it makes us look like

[ __ ] And I think the people that putting hundreds of thousands of dollars and millions of dollars into these

vehicles are like, "Yep, look, told you it's only a matter of time the [ __ ] going to nig." And I think that [ __ ] is

whack. And I told everybody involved that I was disappointed in them. Yo, thank you for that. All right. Don't

say another word. Thank yo, we crazy, man. That That was

dope. Don't talk. [Music] Hey,

I learned from you. I learned from you. Hey. Yeah. Yeah.

Let's go. Rashad, we on air. We on air. I called

Ian and he had a bunch of political [ __ ] to say, but let's get to it. I

was asking like what's going on and how do you think some of your peers feel with you wearing

all this exclusive P product Prada, you taking the game to other continents,

hanging out with Magic, Steve Harvey, and all these [ __ ] like what? And it's just saying he don't want no beef in the

financial community. I do. I I want beef and told you to your face

that beef was coming. Pause. And here we are. So I is there beef? Is it just some

animosity? Is it tension? Is it jealousy? Is it envy? Or can cooler heads prevail?

Well, first and foremost, is Queen is Queen Flip there. Yes, he is. Well, actually, he's here

somewhere. Yo, Flip, you're eating and and our guest is asking. Queen Flip is here. Did he tell you? Did he tell you

about He dr champagne for the first time in his life with us? Did he tell you about that experience?

He said he had lemonade. Let that part out. He said he had he had lemonade. He said he had lemonade. He never said he had no champagne.

No, he told us lemonade black. You didn't say you had some.

Yeah, the black [ __ ] You didn't say you had no saw y'all. He saw you uh you Troy

and Terence J. Y'all son them out real quick. took him took him took him to some real uh real opulence. He ain't

know what to do with himself. He did tell us. Uh nah, no. It's all love, man. It's all

love. It's no it's no problem. It's no problem in the space. But what but what you got to say to

these hating ass [ __ ] in the financial space. Hey yo, Rashad is doing it. I told him and Troy like stop answering like that.

That's why [ __ ] have attitudes, [ __ ] What's up? What's happening, [ __ ] Cuz we seen you almost knock money out

in the street. Yeah, we seen that. But that's old. You ain't flying them. You gave him grace. I gave him grace. But now these [ __ ] is still talking.

You know, any level of success breeds envy. Um that that comes with it. That's a part of it. So

you only people only can hear one side of the story if the other if another person is not talking. But by talking

about something, you give it validity, right? So it's like sometimes it's not even worth having a conversation. The

truth never has to be defended. So but a lot Hold on. Wait, but a a lie

unchallenged can become the truth to some to some to some pe to some

people for sure. But the real ones understandable. All right, but let me ask you this. But

let me ask you this. With all that's going on, like do you plan on slowing

down wearing the matching silk outfits on these [ __ ] I did. I did. You know that the drip

report hurt a lot of heart. I take a step back from that. I like that because um that satin that sat

[ __ ] [ __ ] up. Yeah, that s [ __ ] you up. They thought they could run in Neman's and cop. Nah.

Nah. This drip ain't in New Orleans, [ __ ] Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. But

no, it's all love, man. Anybody, you got two type of people in this world. You got the people that we might have

disagreements, but they're still actually providing value to society, right? That's just a disagreement.

That's that's not seeing eye to eye. Then you got a hater who's providing no value to the world that his whole

purpose is to try to destroy. Those two people are not the same. I just wanted that that's not the same.

Like you know what I'm saying? Like on a certain level, one we can have a conversation with eventually or maybe

not. But it's not it's not a real problem. If you feel like talking that day,

if if you feel like having a conversation, it could go somewhere else.

The other one like put a great post up. It's that's the new sport online. When

you have no talent, when you have no resources, when you have no connection, when you have no work ethic,

the next thing to do is to get online and talk about other grown men and try to build a platform that way. What are

you talking about your channel? Yo, real real quick before I let you go, talk about that Investfest that's coming

up. Investfest next week cuz that's probably another reason that

they big mad like that. First and foremost, we got we got the honor of Ish coming.

Wait, what? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, what? I know about that. No, no. Said that he wasn't [ __ ] with

y'all and didn't plan on doing that and best bet best forever. You change your mindish? No. What you talking about? I'm going

Wait, is he going at it for real? You serious? For sure. What you talking about, bro? Yes, he's speaking on the on the big stage or the small

stage cuz I know y'all booked him on the small stage before and he ain't like that, but he didn't tell you.

Don't do that. Don't do that. Is it the main stage? Where? Where? Don't do that. Don't do that. What stage is it?

Don't Don't do that. Don't do that, bro. Don't do that. Me and had a conversation. Me and got a personal

relationship. That's my brother. But is it is it the big stage or is it the teleporters?

Stop. Stop. Is it the [ __ ] before? Cuz I'mma be in the building too, [ __ ] It's better.

Yeah. Wait. You got is speaking at that dinner y'all throw. He said you going to be a little boy

at the influ. Hey yo, hold on. But wait, wait. Just tell me what topic is you speaking on

cuz now I might go. I'm going. What's the topic? Hey yo, dog. Ignore

these [ __ ] man. Conversation of tonight's conversation. Yo. Oh, a fireside chat.

Yeah. Tonight's conversation. Hey yo, that is Wait. Oh, tonight's conversation. You're

saying? Yeah. Oh, he's speaking with them. Yeah. Oh, okay. And not male.

Yeah. What's wrong with you, man? What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you, man? you. But Rashelle, you already know

everything that's wrong with me. Just love me through what's wrong with me. Uh,

congratulations. Congratulations on to on that $20 million year. Thank you so much. Years.

That's major. That's major, man. That's major. Congratulations on that. Listen, that that's why I'm not part of

the uh hate on EL crew. Like, if I wasn't doing like this, I would hate on you [ __ ] I would hate too. Ah, but

not in best batch. Yeah, we got Jack Dorsey, we got Magic Johnson, we got uh Charlemagne the God, we got um

phone is breaking up now. The reception is Yo, the reception is getting a little mut.

Y'all hear? Damn. Oh, [ __ ] Damn.

Damn. Damn, man. That's so petty.

Yo, my [ __ ] Okay. So, you want to call trap to get like a full little rounded.

Oh, you being messy. Mel, stop. I'mma get you now. Mel, stop it. You opening the door. Listen, Savannah. Come on, Savanni.

You call him. You were going to call him. I'm still going. It's easy. [ __ ] why you ain't tell me?

Yo, bro. Come on, man. You didn't tell us. Like, you omitted the facts.

It's going to be up there, [ __ ] I'm be right with you, boy. Get these 5500 hosted [ __ ] out of

here. Who 5,500 host? I don't know. pushes like that. Watch your [ __ ] mouth, [ __ ] [ __ ]

my man is going to be up there. I always got to find out about him from the street, like from another source of info. I don't like that about I don't

like that, but I'm glad I found out. You going I'm glad I know I'm not going, but if there's a live stream or I'm have

somebody there filming is I want to hear is speak on the stage game. You know I'm going to be filming.

What the [ __ ] is is going to talk about? Absolutely nothing.

Tell us. That's hate. And that's why you have to conver my question. I wouldn't hate.

I just want the topic. Is what's the topic, bro? I have no idea. So, you just going to join? You going to

be on the panel with the other people? You got to get [ __ ] time to prepare. They got to tell me the topic. They didn't take for real.

Now I'm coming. Now I'm coming. Now I'm coming.

Yo, fam. Yo, can we move the show along? My [ __ ] you looking This is not about me. I can't. No, it's

not. This is not about me. is all right. Cool. If you say so. Damn it.

All right. I don't have anything else that is on my mind, spirit, body, and soul. Weighing heavy on my heart. I

think we've done a good job disseminating some information. How about you guys? What's y'all doing? I think you done some positive work for

the community. Yeah, I think so too, man. Shout out to the Innocence Pro. The lawyers

and the lawyers and Pizza Hut and the lawyers for and Pizza Hut and Pizza Hut and Pizza Hut.

Got to add Good vibe. a good time, man. Hopefully y'all have enjoyed this broadcast as

much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Until the next time, we bid you a do. Farewell. Adios. Cereba dirty. Aa

vista it go. I forgot how I outro this [ __ ]

Keep your windows closed. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there till next time. Yada yada yada

yada yada yada. Mom.

All right. All right. All right. We got it, y'all. We got it. We got it, y'all. How do you say it, man? Say it, [ __ ]

Baddy's insecure. Last but certainly not least, the baddies are insecure. The stagnant women

want to trap, but when the close-minded women want you to teach them things, grab you a Tylenol or you might need it.

Uh, anybody have any interesting plans for the week? I know we at that Chris Brown concert tonight. Know where we at?

Yes, sir. Is everybody here going to that or no? I'm going

No, I don't think. Yo, why do y'all have such a hard time with the simplest of questions? Is everybody here or not?

I don't believe so. What the [ __ ] Absolutely. You want the rest of the tickets?

Hey, y'all hold it down out there. We love y'all. Remember, Tupac cares if

no one else cares. Until next time, we going. Y'all hold it down. Same time,

same place next week. Everybody have a real good week. Peace, love, health, wealth, and prosperity to y'all out

there. It go. We want to welcome back our good brother Mark. Man, Mark, it was good to have you back. We miss you. Good

to see you back, man. Missed you on that that long Tuesday. Hey,

I don't know why my sound effects been pitched up this whole show. It's been bothering me, too.

Yeah, I'll look at it. Huh? I'll look at it. Yeah, this [ __ ] is horrible. [ __ ] it.

Yikes.

That's not where you

Well, fold that up right now. Don't look away now, [ __ ]

Neutral. [Music]