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JB back to business. I guess right now we should start the

show. He ain't going to be do. Oh, not going to be do.

Not at night time. Your boy Flip will be right there with him. Flip J.

What up y'all? What's up? How you doing? Hit the button. Yo, you No, you hit the button. Yeah.

Yeah. Just hit the button on you. Please do not change the channel. You are tuned in to the right place. Joe is

not here right now, but we are here to turn up and take over the wonderful Can

you please turn your ring off? Joe, you just don't do whatever you want. I know you ain't do no country queen [ __ ] What do you mean? You got the

sockies on with Nike socks. Listen. Yo, I got some sin socks for you in the

house. I just got a 12-pack. Listen, I got you. Shout out to Sulken. I mean, this these were given to me. I wasn't familiar with

their game, but you know, let's not highlight any negative things about the guy sitting in the chair. I got some for

you. You rocking a star shirt, too. What's that? Look, what's that? What's that? You got sponsorship? No. You got Oh, Flip the Network over there

right now. I'm looking very Brandy. Looking like a billboard right now. Nah, I pee. What happened? Cuz Flip the Network done. You done got

your shows picked up by stars. That's what it is. Oh, you got your picked up. You ain't split me. You don't you ain't you a hear me put you on put you on your man put

you a queen put you on a lie I'm ignorant though like if if I get a network there

see you back I ain't going to come and play it on me right I'm rubbing in everybody face yeah

I'm a traitor I need your brothers the way they was talking up here

we was we was comparing like she just her the way y was laughing about y'all don't have the same clause. Nah, I got

smoke with all you, man. But anyway, I don't know. I was talking about me. I love you guys. How y'all doing? Y'all good?

Good, man. Great. Glad to be here. How was your week? Great week. Great week. Um, I hit that

breezy bowl. I'll tell you about it, though. I'll tell you when we get yo, I ain't going to lie. I think

everybody I ever known in my known ever known in my 49 years was at the Chris B.

One of them nights, if you ain't make the first night, you made the second one. or your time. We We'll talk We'll talk about it, though. What about you,

E? Oh, I ain't do nothing. I chill. I had a nice relaxed week. Oh, why you ain't go to Breezy?

Uh, I couldn't I couldn't make it. Yo, you could have made it. Wow. One of the nights you could have made it. No, I couldn't make it. Could have made it,

man. Why you make You're going to stop this breezy? Yo, no, that No, listen. I got When we talk about that,

I'm taking my No, he down. I'm with him. He down. I'm with it now. You know, he can't move. Really? I mean, you saw he

just walked in the seat. Sensation. You saw he walk.

You can't dance no more. That I just tuck it in, man.

Yo, you you was tippy toeing like this in the chair, boy. Must like me your Achilles up, too.

What's up, man? What you did? Um, I don't know. Nothing. Just Yo, you got a date tonight.

Yeah. You got a date tonight. We can always tell, though. You know what I mean? You got your little It shows your little Chips Highway

Patrol glasses on. You got a date tonight. You got your new shoes on. You know what I mean? Oh yeah, the toes. The toes fresh. You

got to get them. They are so not any of your first date jeans.

She got the She got me first date jeans on. I know. I know. Well, you know the

one that go Let me see. No, the ones you walk down the stairs and they be waiting for you. Walk down the stairs.

So, you didn't do nothing this week. You was in the crib by the bookshelf. Yeah, that's exactly where I was. I was

at the bookshelf. Just ran errands. My life was boring this week. It was just It was a lot of work. Is Daisy okay? Is she safe? She's fine.

She's somewhere around here. She's here. Yeah. Oh, who I haven't seen in a while. I thought we here. At least you know she alive if

she here. What's up, boys? I'm chilling, man. How you feeling? I feel good, man. What you did? Uh, I didn't do this week. My wife is

away, so I'm chilling. Oh, you Yo, why you cut your curls? It's summer, man. It's hot.

Yeah. Stop hating on them, boy. You can't curl. I like his curls. Yeah, of course. Cuz you can't compliment your curl all the time.

You do. What you talking about? I like his curls. When you when you pass 49, you can say stuff like that. Why

don't you like him? Do you like his legs, his thighs? Hell yeah. Is he freak too far?

All right, Paul, let's turn real quick. Paul, you ready? Turn. Let's go, man. Can we get some drops? Some round of applause. You're absolutely right.

Can we know it got caught up in the white so much? There we go. There we go.

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Um, no. The beautiful, the wonderful, the amazing. And for Melissa for a round of applause.

Um, Patron Ease in the building. Welcome, welcome, welcome.

Just go over the is about to fry you up, but you're right. No, you don't. Round of applause for my

man Emani in the building. The main man with the master plan. He

makes sure everything is above 20 grand, man. My man li

the doctor. The doctor of loveics. The loanomics doctor boy. He do not play,

but so far you can go. He's not always there when you call, but he is always there when you call and he's always on

time. My man, my man.

That's love. How you doing? You good?

My mans finest. My man Parks, man. Round of applause for Park.

We got Paul in here. We got Corin here. E in the back. And his man um I forgot my man name.

Julia. Oo, that's my man, too. tall, too. That's my man. That's my man.

That's what did it for you. I got to acknowledge that's what did it for you back with the tall [ __ ] You like tall [ __ ]

you know. Do you guys You said he did it for you. You said you said that's my man tall, too. You guys You guys go real far when it

comes to that. No, that's that's my guy, man. Welcome, man. We're here. I'm happy to see you guys, man. What's up, man? I

know we did the you know, we talked about what we did this weekend, but I'm just happy to see you guys. Same. Can we send a congratulations to

our boy? Oh, we have to say congratulations. Congratulations. Congratulations to Ian and Jules.

Welcome to the club. Love you guys. Bundle of Joy is here. Baby girl, beautiful, man.

Another girl dad out there. Salute. It's over. How do you think he feels right now? Amazing. He's on top of the world.

Amazing. It's a different feeling. And also that probably that his wife is a warrior and a goddess.

I concur. Yeah. And in another month, he going to be tired as [ __ ]

Another month. I mean, when he get into the real routine of it, another month. I mean, he he he has to be there to to

help her, help her out. Where now, don't you talk about it no month, but you still kind of in the in

the moment. You still engulf in the moment. The sometimes you can't describe the feeling of having it's unescribable. You

know, when I told Ian, when I was congratulating him, I was like, "Yo, you the feeling that you're feeling right now, I can't describe, but just know

that you are responsible for this this human being coming into this world." Try to be nice. You know what I'm saying?

Shout out to But throw a little pressure on it, too. Yeah. Yeah, I did. Yeah, for sure. You're responsible now for this

individual and their well-being for the rest of their lives. Is Is there a difference? I know. But

for me, there was. No, there isn't. There's not a difference when you have a boy and a girl. I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know.

Meaning when they're born, I wouldn't know. You would know. It was for me. I got girls. My little baby boys, man. As soon as

they came out the sit up, boy. You shook you shook them up like you was there. When the princess came out, man,

it was just a my daughter. You know what I mean? You know, so I'm sure. Yeah, man. Shout out to Ian, man. We

love you. And Jules, for sure. Shout out to Julia. We love you, man. What's popping, y'all? What's good? What's good? What's good? What's good?

You didn't tell what your week was like. You ask everybody else how was your week? Um, my week was You went to the Aderondex or something.

Oh, yeah. You went to go get your to the to the army base and all that. I went to get my um so yesterday I went

to West Point, New York where I was born because, you know, you know, trumping these real IDs. I had to get my birth

certificate. I lost it a long time ago. So, I went to the town to get it. And I

don't know where the [ __ ] I was at. Excuse me. Like, my daughter had to roast me because it said bagel grandma

and caps and pizza. So, I said, "Oh, look, bagel grandma's pizza." My daughter said, "Daddy, it's just called

grandma's and they sell bagels and pizza." I said, "No, it's bagel grandma pizza." Cuz they had it on the left. My

daughter checked me. She right. Um, it was it it was chicken nugget free fries.

I mean I mean it was unique man to to go there to see that where I was born. I drove by the hospital but I was born I

was born in an army base. Uh so West Point flip. Yeah. N that's like the word. That's

what I told him. West Point is the other [ __ ] That's what my daughter was saying. My daughter said I learned about West Point

in my textbook and she started to talk about generals and stuff. I tuned out. I turned up Drake. Um, so no, but it it

felt good to be there with your daughter and show her like this is where I was born and everything. Um, other than that, everything else was well, man.

Everything else was well, just family time. I don't believe that you were listening to Drake either. I think you turned up Papa Roach and uh

No. N Sabrina Carpenter or some [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I listen to Drake.

But yeah, it's it's just taking your children there, man. It's fine. That's fine. I feel lame though, being born up there,

yo. Why little town like a little cool off? Yeah. I be talking bad [ __ ] like Queens

from upstate too. Yeah, but that's Oh, West Point's finest. Yeah, West Point flip.

Shout out to West Point. Shout out to everybody up there. High falls and stuff like that. But yeah, that's that's what that's what I did.

Oh, your man. You got your paper, right? What paper for Investfest? You cleared up. I seen

your name on flyer. So, you cleared all that up, right? Some things have been worked out. Some things been worked out. Yeah. Cory made the call. So, you

officially So, you officially call you officially going to be there. Yeah. I'm going to be there. I'm

crazy. Yo, Cory made the call, bro. Yeah, he took care of you. Cory did it.

Yo, give Yo, Zelum. Yo, you need that 20. You going to do 20% or n cancel out?

Got him. No doubt. There you go. Damn. Got to cash him out on the 20. That didn't seem earnest. No, no. It's a stand up dude though. He

going to sit in the 20. That's crazy. Where do you guys want to go? Where where we going? What's on the What do you mean? Where do you want to

go? where the rest of America went for the last twice this week. Say to Joe, you check check me.

You not like that. Your balls hanging. You

I really don't drag. Where do you want to go? I I stole his exact line knowing that you'll say that

when it come to me. Go ahead. Just check me. Yes, father. We only really have one place to go is Chris Brown.

That's the only place to go. Yes. Okay. Okay. You disagree. Who all went to the show?

I mean, only one of us. I wasn't missing it. I ain't goddamn. I know Joe went, right?

But Joe, you went He ain't here. But here. Yeah. Yeah. Um,

I'm going to make this really easy. I don't want to hear nobody's name with

his anymore. Like, I'm done. Nobody us Nobody currently. Yeah. Got it. Stop. Just leave it alone.

Leave it alone. Only two mention it. I no he has he is clearly in a class by himself.

So where'd you go see him? Where was Metife? Metife. Okay. Went night two. Met life. Um

it was storming pouring like like no thunderstorm pouring down which worked in our favor.

Why? Cuz dealing with women, you run late all the time. Ah. So we running late and I'm telling her I'm like, "Yo, it's lightning." I know

the rules at Metife. As long as it's lightning, they can't they got to clear everybody out. M

any open stadiums if it's lightning that they'll they'll stop a football game. They'll stop anything for lightning. True. We parked the second we got the Amber

Alert [ __ ] on the phone. All Metife guests. It is now safe to return to the venue. Made it.

Miss Bryson because there was a big mix up with security on the floor. Like they closed the gates down. People tried to

rush the gates. They had about 500 people standing online to get your floor wristbands. Oh

[ __ ] But again, because the show was delayed, the second doors opened, they had him ready to go.

So, we missed him. She watched Summer. I I'm I don't I'm not really the biggest

Summer fan, so cool. That wasn't for me. Mhm. But when he hit that stage, he went on

stage at 9:30 roughly. Okay. It was after midnight when we walked

out. How did he did about 50 between 53 and 55

records. M holy [ __ ] And they said the first night it was more he did about between somewhere. I saw

the set list. He added he made some additions and he could have stepped he could have kept Oh no. So he do he do a little outfit

changes and [ __ ] right? And he has a DJ come out and perform. The DJ goes, "Hey, I'm going to play the

records that he not going to do. So we going to turn up here." And he went on a whole set of records that he could have

performed. Uh brought Tiger out. Okay, that's dope. Very dope. Very dope.

Very dope. Um, he hooked up the harness and shot up in

the air like out of a cannon. It looked like about 60 70 ft in the air. I saw that

online too. Yeah. Literally flew around the ar the nose beds. He was in front of the people in the nosebleleed singing to them.

Wow. While flipping on the harness live mic. Everybody going

to get their money's worth. Oh no. Everybody got their money's worth. Everybody in there got I don't care where you sat you like we didn't sit

down the entire show and again it's after midnight and I'm like yo this [ __ ] I saw a TikTok going

around where a girl left the uh she left the spot early. She was like yo I got kids this [ __ ] won't stop singing like

enough. Yeah. The girl was like yo dog dog what are we doing? You killing me. Yeah I said it's too much. Like my girl was like

okay I understand that now. Easily performance-wise one of the best shows I've ever been to in my life. And

you've been to a lot of shows. I go to a lot of shows. You go to a lot of shows. Has this been one continuous tour? Yes. Yes. This is

When did this start? Because it feels like he's been on tour forever. Started overseas. It started overseas. Was that Was that Breezy Bo? Cuz he had

something before this. No. Joint 11. That was last 11 was last year. I felt like that was No,

that's what I was asking cuz it seem That's why I said it seems like he's been on tour forever because it just seems like he one connected to the other

like he never stopped. No, no, no. He tours each album. Mhm. So last year was the 11-11 tour.

This one being that this is 20 years of his career. Mhm. First album was 2005.

We're in 25. So he's celebrating his entire career. All of the videos they played

literally walked you through the career. Mhm. He jumped around with songs, of course. So you know, he came out to run it and

then did some current stuff and then back and forth. But all the videos was just walking you through everything he's

been through. He had a whole set where all the lights look like police lights and it was flashing and of course he go

through all of that. The the the fall he called it. It was just different. Bro,

bro, I have I have not heard I didn't hear something mediocre yet. Me either.

Everything I've heard is a 10 or better. Every single person, man, woman, boy, or girl, [ __ ] was in the show hitting my

phone like, "Yo, you bullshitting. Why you not here?" I'm surprised you didn't go. I I ain't with the New Jersey [ __ ] I'mma

go I'mma go. I wanted to go to London. I wanted to go to uh overseas, but I'm gonna go to somewhere like Phoenix. I'm

gonna go somewhere. Yo, Phoenix. I've never I was supposed to go to this. I mean, Denver. I mean, I was supposed to go to day two and it's

the first time I was like regretted not going to a show. Any other time I miss a show, I'm like, "All right, whatever." I'm seeing the videos come across, the

pictures just it looked like you needed to be there. Hey, let me tell you, if I wasn't going to be out the country, I would go next

week to Connecticut again. I'm going to try to go there. What do you think this tells the world now

though? Again, like you know, cuz we now we know that whatever

hidden thing is was whatever hidden halo was over Chris Brown when it came to whatever he went through, you know,

whatever that was preventing him from going to the next level. What does this say to them? What does this What's the next level? I don't Yeah, about to say

winning the awards, going to the award show, performing, doing the Michael Jackson. If you notice, he's always posting on

his stories. I don't give a [ __ ] about that no more. He keeps reminding people,

hey, and it was one of the videos he was playing. It was like, yo, everybody stopped answering my phone calls.

Like, I couldn't even get [ __ ] on the phone, let alone to try to work with

folks. The only way I made it through was my fans. So, everything he's saying is I only do

this for the fans. I understand. I don't care about the rest of That's why he was mad at the awards. Yo, stop

even calling me. Y'all call me. Y'all get my fans hyped up. Y'all get everybody hyped up to now pull pull the rug at the end and say, "Oh, never mind.

Don't call my phone." Yeah. I'm not doing this for y'all no more. I've accepted what it is. Like everybody

say, "Oh, he was supposed to be the next Michael." Hey, he'll never get there. We already got that. But as his fans,

he's giving us something that nobody else is going to give us. And that's still an argument. But it's not an argument. It's not.

But you said you you said something ill on the side, though. You said when you Oh, my bad. You you you said on the side,

we need to stop having a conversation about someone being better than the person before them. It's literally just

a torch past evolution at this point. James to Michael to Usher now to Chris.

Like my scariest thought is who is he passing that torch to now when it comes to this level of of creativity and all.

They might not be born yet. I mean, or they might be 12 years old. You know what I'm saying? Like they might be out here 13, 14 years old. dog. He is. You

know how Jay-Z be like, "Yo, only two people rested in heaven could be mentioned in the same." You can only

mention people that are dead with this kid. Not kid with this man. Like, he's different, bro. 3 hours, 4

hours of just nonstop bangers. Don't sit down. Dance the whole entire time.

Beyonce. Being on tight ropes in the nose is crazy to me. Yo, fam. You're not sitting on a stool. You're not sitting on a stool singing,

right? Yeah, fam. Yo, he's flipping jumping. When we went to 1111, I was impressed. From what

I've seen online, this [ __ ] makes 111 like this [ __ ] makes every other tour. I

I haven't missed a Chris Brown tour since 2012. You know what you just said? He's celebrating 20 years. It don't seem like

he's slow. Like he seem like he's revving up. Like that is scary. Yo,

real scary. You know, his iTunes is loaded with 7,000 records he ain't even released yet.

Chris is different, man. I I I don't got no more argument about who who to talk. Yeah. I I just don't like hear like at

after what I've seen and and like I said 20 years non-stop. I don't want to hear nobody. I don't

want to hear it, bro. I'm not having a conversation no more. I'm not even That's what you think? Cool. That's peace. Don't talk to me no

more. I'm not even to me. It ain't even close. He might not have the

one album that somebody has as like the Confessions or the, you know, whatever

the Donell Jones joint, whatever the case may be. But even to what we was talking about of off Mike Ice was like,

"Yo, that just goes to the evolution of music." Re, I mean, the evolution of just streaming and all that other [ __ ]

You putting out a ton of songs so that you can get your bread back, whatever the case may be. If he had an album with

a concise 12 songs. Mhm. First off, if he put an album out of 12 songs, his fans going to write.

I'm going to be the first one. You better not. We was Hold on. We was mad when he first said 11-11 was going to be

11 songs. He did. Everybody. Yo. Yo, my [ __ ] I hear all that. I see what you trying to do. But

that that lead that for them, we don't want that. Mhm. He's the one of the only, maybe the only

artist that this has been ever since Heartbreak on a Full Moon that can give you 30 40 records and still shoot 85%.

So imagine if he took the 30 to a hot 14, right? No, I'm just saying no, he could give

you a potential confessions and confessions is a hard plat. I mean, that is not just a easy feat. I'm just saying

if somebody out here could do it, he could do it. Well, shout out shout out to Breezy. Shout out to Chris Brown.

Must see show you pulling up. If you haven't go, please go.

And um shout out to Breezy. Yeah, shout out to Breezy. That sound like a great show. Let's keep it in music, man. Cardi B. Uh

she dropped. Yo, I'm not mad at this. Yo, she came out.

I'm not mad. She came out. I didn't We We talked about it before. We didn't know what she was going to sample.

Mhm. Mhm. you know, it was going to be the beat flow. When I first heard the snippet, I wasn't really I'm like, h

I I didn't like the snippet. Hearing the song in totality. How does this translate to the audience

audience or to the new audience, right? To the people that's buying records. Ain't nobody buying records.

Well, I'm not buying. You know what I'm talking? Is this Is this a great or is this a

good second single? I don't think No, I don't think so. I think well it's an interesting choice

for a second single. I don't think it'll be a hit. So if that's the goal Yeah. If that was the goal with the second single then no.

But I think it's a good record which I think she kind of needed. I think she wanted a record out to get her [ __ ] off on.

Yeah. I don't need a hit. I don't need a hit. I don't need something for the clubs right now. I need to I got some [ __ ] to

talk. The last however many singles from Cardi have been club records or attempts at club records. I like the change of pace

here. Yeah, too. Okay. So, so why why she didn't go I would expect as a second single for her

to go like pop or you know big right with a pop feature or something

cuz it ain't connecting. Say it again. It's not connecting. Yeah, I think that's what she's been trying to do. When she when she popped Bodak was

street it was it was you go back to where you initially popped cuz you tried all that other stuff before and it wasn't connecting.

So hold up. Yo, I disagree. That [ __ ] look like my

twin look like my walking. Hold on. What's happening for you?

People don't know you got a little slight Yeah. I mean, why did stagger? I don't know what you talking about. Oh,

but but why you just Why you limped on camera? Like was I limping? Yeah. Yeah. I got

Oh, my bad. I'm I'm I'm in a little bit of pain. You got a catheter, too? No.

Y'all twizzies. You okay? I'm great. I'm great. Just

overtraining, that's all. I'm fine. Okay. Some exercise stuff. That's all I need to worry about. Um Oh,

she getting her [ __ ] off. Yo, is she Yo, can we just be honest, man? What?

Here comes Wait. Okay, let's go. It's not It's not hate. It's I don't I don't I don't like how she

sounds like she's reading off of something in the record. It doesn't I'm not convinced by the flow. Like when we

talked about Foxy and the people before, rappers, people who can go ahead even if you didn't write it, make you believe

that they wrote it and got the [ __ ] They don't give me that feel for this. The bars are fire. You think that's more You think that's

more accent though? I don't I don't want to say it's with accent cuz she was able to do that with accent on other records and

not in the pocket at all. Like I feel like she was catching like when I when I heard it, I was like I love these

lyrics. I love the track. But I literally said to myself, it almost feel like she read she just learned it last week and went in and

recorded it. That's what I get from it. I'm not It's a good good record. The visual is even more fire when you

attach it with the record, but it don't I don't I'm not convinced by it. And at this point, it just feel like they just reaching for anything to upstart

something for her before the album come out. And I'm just like I don't think nothing's going She's saying some [ __ ]

She's saying some fire [ __ ] That's hard, [ __ ] That's tough. Yo, yo, that's hard. That first verse

killing it. That first verse is fire. And I'm a huge Cardi fan. I just I love y'all.

So, it's the delivery. What is it for y'all? It's the delivery. And listen, I'm nitpicking. I'm nitpicking just my ear to nitpick for stuff like that. So,

maybe this is just personal thing. The truth is you're going to nitpick if you can if if it's come from what Jay did and what she's doing.

I'm not comparing to Jay. Yeah. It's not about comparing to Jay, but she have the same cadence and the

same flow. She emulated. I think subconsciously you're going to like subconsciously you're going to compare it. You know what I mean?

you. To me, I think the accent is a little, you know what I'm saying? Like her um you know,

you have the way she annunciates, you know what I mean? But she's saying some [ __ ] like I

don't I don't You're used to those accents, huh?

What do you think, Shorty sound like $40? How you think her accent sound with the $40 heels?

Cardi don't got no $40. I'm not saying she not $4,000. I said shorty with a 40.

I Anyway, I don't want to be too critical, but like Mark, I I just I'm not convinced by

the delivery of it. But is it a bad record? No, it's not a bad record. I think it's fire. The bars are fire.

Glory [ __ ] don't know who you [ __ ] with, bro. I I love I love the whole song. I love

all the lyrics. And like I said, I'm going listen to it in the car and I listen to it first thing this morning when I woke up and I was like, "Oh, I like this track, but it just don't it

almost sound like I wish you had just laid the vocals down one more time. You got to get a cord instead of the Civic.

Sound better. You know what I mean? You get I'm going give it another try. I'm going to give it another try before I But

first, sis, listen. I'm going support her regard. I like this. I like that [ __ ] I like it. From first time I heard it, I was like, "Huh?"

Yeah. Know, she was talking. Oh, she's saying some [ __ ] I can hear a punch. Yeah, I can hear the punches for sure.

I hit a punch. You hear it? Maybe that's it. Maybe. Yeah. And that's that. Yeah, you can hear the

punch. But for the but for the regular fan don't give a [ __ ] about that. So for them it's like whatever fire bars and

they love I'm just glad to be a good song. Some of the some of the pronunciation is a little that's but when it's faster

you won't hear it as much. Fair. You know what I mean? Like when it and the bop and the bop and the bop like you don't hear it as much. She talking

slower now so you hear it. But how do you feel about this MZY? Um

one to 10. I I think that I think that it's really just a it's a cadence thing. I don't

think that we're used to hearing her cadence like this slow. It almost sounds like it's like below like you know the

1.0 like the speed and it sounds like it's like below that negative a little bit. Yeah, it sounds like a

negative. So that's I don't know. She's she's speaking. She's she's spitting. You know what's so crazy? When you spoke

just now, right? I was I'm I'm maturing in real time. I was going to be funny and say you chose a side because offset was up here. I was

going to do that whole little thing but because You said eh was defending her

last time, but I like that. But I want to respect you. I listen, it's not always just a gender

thing. It's sometimes it's just it the side that I think I'm choosing is the right side and it's not gender specific.

Got it. But um you know like I always thought Cardi's back with power to the people we back to do.

This didn't exactly like move me. There's there's nothing to theorize behind uh Ho clearing a sample for her

or should we kind we brush past that and just leave it be or Yes, please. I think we do. I think I

think those who try to make something out of it I think that's I think that's a reach. Got it. I think it's an interesting story.

If if I'm going to say if if he was one that wasn't really clearing samples like that then Yeah. And he does

but he clearly because he's been clearing samples he's clear whacker [ __ ] than this. Yeah,

for sure. And I'm not calling this wax to be clear. I think this is dope. I'm just saying no, I I I really like this song and I really like I'm a huge Cardi fan.

Like I said, I just wish they had laid the vocals down one more time. You put the You put the er on it though, my [ __ ] What? Whacker. That's my West Coast

real quick. Is there anything else in Music Park? So there's a bunch of Are y'all kidding me? Wait, we just

going to act like Chance didn't come out today. Yo, Chance [ __ ] is It's amazing. Chance is kind of back. This is the best

comeback album I've heard in a long time. Best I'm not being funny. This

[ __ ] is fire. It was with Chance and Denzel.

We want you to be Denzel. Come on.

We got you, bro. We got it. If I met Denzel, too, [ __ ] I'll be the

I want you. Hey, I fellow. You

went great. We love the album. What about

first of all I mean I've listened to it a few times today. It's actually why I haven't listened to the Cardi album more.

This [ __ ] right here. Listen man, I know he made a really bad

album about loving his wife. I understand that. But at one point at one he made a really

bad album about loving his wife. It was really bad. It was like his debut album, like official album, but he had a run of classic mixtapz that

took mixtape to a level that we haven't seen as far as winning a Grammy and [ __ ] being Billboard place and all this [ __ ]

He was at one point going to be the next guy in a lot of people's eyes. He disappeared and fell off the face of

the earth. But this album is really [ __ ] good. It's really It's one of my favorite. It's definitely my favorite. I'm not

saying it's the best. If y'all jump on me, but it's absolutely my favorite. I need to listen to it more. But the

there's a few things I love about it. First of all, it's there's there's some Chance is a reader and he's thoughtful

and so the song titles are like really interesting and complex. It's called Starline, which is after the Black Star

Line, Marcus Garvey. He got songs called The Negro Problem, uh Drop It to Mania, which was a something used against

slaves back in the day as a psychological condition. But it's not a nerdy album. I mean, songs like Gunning

Your Pursifier, um Wayne is on here, Young Thug is on here. The features are

great. The music if you like if you like the chance that you liked when you listening to like

rap and coloring book coloring book and all coloring book there's coloring book moments on here especially on the second

half of the album like he's writing a letter to the church that is just it's called the letter is it's amazing the there's some regular like just club [ __ ]

on there and then there's some like conscious [ __ ] on there. It's like a good mix of stuff. The features are great. J Electronic is back on there. Who else is on there? Um Lil Wayne is on

there. It's a it's it's a great album. It's It's one of the albums I've been most excited about and I wasn't to be honest

I wasn't sure how I was going to feel about it because of the last album which which I didn't hate the way everybody else did but I didn't think it was good.

You said I didn't think it was good but some people were like angry about it. I was I was one of those angels. You said you think this is one of the best

albums of of this year. Oh it's definitely one of the best albums. It's my favorite for sure but I need to

hear it for a while. I don't like to jump to you know what I mean? Like I I heard prison know the moment type stuff. Yeah,

I had her gifts for a while when I said like it's it's up top. Whereas this I'm just hearing today so I don't want to say that but it's I I

don't I don't see how somebody wouldn't like this album. If you like Chance, you'll love this album. Well, that song right there will make me

definitely go. Yeah, I'm going to check it out from off of that one. Off of that one song. I had no intention to play on this album. And you ain't even let Vic rock.

He went crazy. One of my favorite Vic. I know he going to go nuts. No, I [ __ ] with him. I know he going Did y'all see Chance stance on uh his

relationship with Kanye? No. What' he say? uh pretty much he hasn't spoken to him in a while, but you

know they they've they've separated. He's busy, I'm busy, but at some point,

you know, maybe there's a world where they connect or something, but that sounds like a whole lot of nothing.

Well, political correct messy I don't want to be messy and I don't want no clips. That's my way of

saying I'm staying out of it. Did he get asked a direct question? So, what's up with you and Kanye? Oh, you know, we're

Look, he busy. I'm busy. Everybody's busy. Exactly. Get that [ __ ] man.

Glasses got on some [ __ ] I wish him well.

All politically correct sentences. That's funny. Any more any more music?

Uh Juicy J dropped a jazz album that was I I only listened to a couple records off it. There's like in it's a jazz

instrumental jazz album with uh her name is Anda Owens. Did he rap on it?

There's some records with him rapping on it. Uh but what's the rest of it? Jazz music. Jazz instrumental only.

Finally. I just understand when is Juicy J going to drop a jazz album. And I want to see how receptive people

are to this because they gave Andre 3000 [ __ ] [ __ ] Well, the difference is is actually really [ __ ] good.

Musically from the song was cool. Flute. I like the flute album,

but this is actually like these are I don't know who plays. These are musicians, okay, that know how to play their instrument.

Oh god. Like it's it's a little different. The wildest jabs off

like this is good music. Shout out to Juicy J. I haven't listened to the whole thing so I don't have an in-depth review but from the four or five songs I did

hear on it is dope. He's got a record with um Black Thought. That's super dope. Please stop the violence in hip-

hop. It is is a from what I heard is very good. And I can't believe he put out another

album. He had an album like two weeks ago. Say, didn't he just drop an album two weeks ago? That's a rap rapping album. This is He's There's not much rapping on

it from what I have heard. So, Oh, and by the way, I actually listened to the Tyler EP.

It's good. I told the the four song, right? Yeah, it's good. You did say I I hadn't

heard it yet and people cuz you hear 4,000 sales and then people So, what? No, they weren't saying there was bad

music. They were just saying that people are just off her because of, you know, the the comments.

I'm not convinced of that either, by the way. I think they did a shitty job. I I think that they thought the success of the

water was going to carry him and so they ain't ne necessarily put as much behind it cuz nobody knew.

I didn't see anything. I didn't see no interviews, nothing. No single, no video, no nothing went viral. I don't

but I don't think it's necessarily. It might be partially a result of her attitudes and the [ __ ] that she said, but I don't or they're trying to protect her from it

happening again. It could be that. I don't want you to sit with no interviews because they're probably going to try to trip you up. They're

going to probably keep trying to address this. we want to get this behind us. Let's just put this [ __ ] out and let's try to steer the conversation over here.

Even though we forgive, black people ain't going to forget. Meaning like it it's best to address it.

I feel like it should be addressed properly according. She addressed it wrong the first time correctly.

I don't I don't believe that either. I don't believe that either. Cuz when do when do when Doa Cat did that [ __ ] and everybody was calling her out for

the [ __ ] she just came with more hits and everyone [ __ ] forgot. Kanye told [ __ ] slavery was a choice. Like I don't I just think at the end of

the day, if you put out slaps, I think you Kanye Kanye also had about 15 years

of equity with his fans to be able to say some [ __ ] and they'll turn the other way. Tyler is a new act.

I'm just saying I don't think you I I think you can get past him saying some [ __ ] if they [ __ ] with you. And Kanye's from America and said that.

You know what I'm saying? He was born here. Kanye's mother and father are who they are historically.

He has more context than this girl that's from another country. Did I miss something? What did she say that had everybody's panties in a bunch?

I think she says I know that she she made a reference to black people. She referred to them as colored, but she's also South African

where that's like I understand I get the loss in translation and you know maybe people thinking that

it was a misstep or you know a faux paw of hers to say it but it's just like if that's Well, didn't she say she I want to make

sure I say it right. I think it was her not using the word. It was about how she

selfidentified. Okay. It wasn't just that she used the word color. It was it was like how do you call yourself? And if I remember correctly, she was she wasn't

identifying as black per se. And people thought that that was her saying I don't [ __ ] with blackness or black people as opposed to her saying

there are different racial categories. I want to pull it up. But in South America, I mean South

Africa, there were distinctions between and colored was one of the identifiers

in South Africa. So if that's how she grew up and that's saying, "Yo, I identify as colored because for the last

20 years or 19 years, that's how I've been described." I don't think there's nothing wrong with that. It's like when

Mel talks about Canada and how people identify in Canada, they don't necessarily say, "I'm black or I'm

white." They'll say, "Yo, I'm Norwegian or I'm Jamaican or I'm Trinidadian." You go to where your country family origin

from and that's how you identify. It makes She called herself a colored South African. It's not that she doesn't say black, but the identity she was

using at the time was color South African. And then it sparked a controversy. And in South Africa, they don't refer to people as black. If I'm not mistaken,

they don't use that's not the terminology, man. The problem is she ain't got no slaps, man. That's all it is.

And will forget all that [ __ ] Like I said, when do all her stupid [ __ ] she

came out with slaps and everybody shortly forgot about it. I think after that, people just didn't

didn't [ __ ] with her. like it was that when it came to um her um her being on

stage, there was like an award something. She was she was oh hold this while I talk kind of thing. People were

like oh you're making so and so hold your [ __ ] award. Who do you think think you are? And I was just like okay so she's at the point in which she

can't win for losing. Yep. Like everything is going to everything she does is going to be dissected and

people are going to highlight the ne negativity and see it through that. They'll find negativity. Even if it's not negative, they'll make it negative.

When they hate you, you can do no right. She was on that hated side for a minute. And like Imani said,

slaps. We've seen it with everybody. Slaps fix allaps. Slaps everything. They do.

They fix most things. A lot of [ __ ] I was on vacation, so I didn't I don't know the answer to this. Did y'all talk

about MGK's album last week? Who? Machine Gun Kelly. Yeah. After the intro on Today's Pod, I guess

we could, but I haven't listened to it. So, if you have a deep analysis, by all means. I'm I have a shallow analysis. I

want to know if yall he switched up, right? He switched up and went Yeah. Rev pop, right? A little bit more. But I mean, it's still they're still rapping on this. You

know what I mean? The album's called Lost Americana. Uh it's worth it's worth listening to. You know what I mean? It's more alternative than it is like

hip-hop. You find out what's happen you got some scratch.

Well, no. I just knew we were going to be talking about music today and I like to prepare for Hey MG

around listening to MGK.

What? I'm just naming the albums that came out this week that we might have had a dialogue going on. That's I know some nice ones that was up there

that week and I don't know. I didn't see anybody but my wife. I know. Yo, Tony Tony Bennett's greatest

Tony Bennett greatest hits his just dropped. Good. Salute to MGK. It might be good. I don't

listen to it. Yeah, it's worth listening to. That's all I'm going to say. No, I ain't getting no pola.

I'm happy to. No, I'mbody has poliola. Please text me, email me, DM me

something. Oh man, William, that's that's in music. Yeah, I mean um as far as like major

major releases. Yeah. Okay. As far as major releases, I would say so. Yeah. Uh I mean, in music, I

don't know if you guys want to tackle some of this Drake uh lawsuit. It's a na some nasty paragraphs in

there. There really is nasty. There really is. I don't I don't know how to defend this anymore. I'm not going to hold you.

Like I I was with the people that was just like, "Well, they called him that word and he's going scorched earth."

Do we have the uh the actual Well, yeah. There's there's a piece here that I'm reading um certain requests in

within the suit uh that Drake is asking for from January 1, 2014 to the present.

all documents and communications relating to allegations of domestic violence, violence against women, and or

other forms of violence committed by Kendrick Lamar Duckworth. Uh that's document request number 50.

Document request number 51 is from January 2019 to the present. all

documents and communications relating to David Isaac Freely aka Dave Free and his

relationship with Kendrick Lamar Duckworth and Kendrick Lamar Duckworth's children. And then uh document request

number 52 is all documents and communications relating to the rap feud from August 1st, 2023 to the present.

These are all requests that are being made. Uh that's I I don't understand that see

it's nasty and I don't understand what that has to do with whether UMG was boosting

uh not like us. Well what I think I think it's two twofold. One he's trying to prove

that y'all boosted lies. Right. Okay. So now I'm going to prove what I said

was the truth. Okay. So I'm looking for I'm I'm look cuz again part of what he's also trying to do and I think this is like the

second level of his beef is I still want to expose dude as cuz remember Joe read

a message before where he was like I'm going to show you he's not who y'all think he is. Okay. So I think that's still part of it.

Yeah. I think I think he having two fights. Yeah. I think he fighting Kendrick still and I think he fighting UMG. And I think they

two separate fights. They just intertwine. It sounds like he's trying to legally uh uh rap genius.

Yes. Like, yo, I'm I'mma expose you for whatever that I heard was true. Now,

I'mma make y'all prove it's true. Hip-hop is built off lies, too, man. Like, come on. It It's too much. I I

don't I don't even think that they're going to even submit that information to him. You know, you start playing with somebody's family and their kids and all that. What?

Well, Lucian Grange had some [ __ ] to say.

Yeah, he had some thoughts. Did he put in a declaration? Um, no.

[ __ ] out of here. [ __ ] out of here. Yeah, it's it's it's it's not lengthy,

but I mean, we can we can get to it. Uh, let's Yeah. Can you see, [ __ ] Like, zoom in. Where

your readers at? Give them your Here we go. I'm the chairman and CEO of Universal Music

Group, which is indirect parent corporation of defended UMG Recordings, Inc. Plaintiff Orby Drake Graham claims

that I was behind a scheme to devalue his brand through the release and promotion of the Kendrick Lamar

recording Not Like Us. an allegation that makes no sense due to the fact that the company I run, Universal Music

Group, has invested hundreds of millions of dollars in Drake, including

long-standing and critical financial support for his uh recording career, the purchase and ownership of the bulk of

his recording catalog, and the purchase of his music publishing rights. It also

makes no sense whatsoever as I run a publicly traded multi-billion dollar

multinational corporation who operations in over 60 countries covering nearly 200

markets immediately report up to me. Uh that's in short and pretty much he's saying no.

Yeah. No. Dumb. Yeah. It makes no [ __ ] financial or

sense period. You're reaching Yeah. Yo, I don't like the way you read. Yo,

get your glasses, bro. I don't like that. I don't like the way you read. Read the last line. Don't read. Don't read like that again. And let me see if you do better.

Don't read like that again. What's the last line? Now, is this an eye test or a reading test? What's a reading? It's a reading at this point.

Which one? What's the last line? Recorded catalog and the purchase of his music publishing rights.

Read the whole [ __ ] [ __ ] you tell that [ __ ] you big foot from West Point. Read it, man.

Cuz you can't see. Yeah. Glasses, boy. looking about at your filming the Chloe. What you want me to do?

And you sat there right there. You sat right there and let my man do that. Huh? I didn't think you I think you the post.

I thought you going to let it happen. I think you Oh, wait. That sound crazy. No, you sound good at all. You did just

what I expected. Yeah. Oh [ __ ]

Stop playing. Yo, I told y you can't do that, man. Stop playing, yo.

Yo, that's a charge. I

[ __ ] you watching Deadvil or something?

Yo, you just Yo, you just had to get up with your first day on

such a [ __ ] That's why I didn't do that. I didn't need to do that.

She would never do for you, [ __ ] Um She didn't even call you about the

capital. I was just about to go to Mark for his opinion on this whole thing, but my bad is Yo,

right now you good. You over two.

You should You should stop throwing aggressive. You're so angry.

Go back to class. Next time you read, you got I got them

here, right? Okay, I appreciate that. Wait, hold on. First of all, okay, do we need to have an intervention? You

can't see. He's lashing out. You came on the main paw. You doing you okay throwing [ __ ] and breaking [ __ ]

You all right? The [ __ ] hurt. And he's sitting up high now. So

my bad gra. Okay. All right. Let's All right. Come

on. Let's go. Let's grow up, man. Holy [ __ ] You all right, Mark? Yeah. The chair's [ __ ] up, though.

Oh, yeah. No, it's not. No, it's not. Oh, it's it's stained. Yeah, that's going to be high. A

[ __ ] These couches need like a good once over. Anyways, you had your navy blues on the other

day. Yeah, you had navy blue bleach. You had your Yeah, you had your Ford and Ro jeans on there. But listen,

no, but back to the back to the subject at hand. I think that um I think he just fighting two fights. I think one you

embarrassed me nationally, internationally. So now I'm going to I'm going to get you back, right? So I'm

going to spend any expense I can to personally get you back. And then I think he's fighting a totally separate

fight with UMG and I think they just intersect and I think his goal with um Universal is to get my masters

to the point where our settlement going to be my [ __ ] And I was looking at that might be the start of the beef because I

was wondering how cuz his masters were with uh Young Money, right? And Wayne sold Young Money

sold all of their masters to Universal for 100 million. Gotcha. So now it's like, oh wait a minute, you sold my [ __ ] to them. Like I might have

tried to buy my [ __ ] I could have bought my [ __ ] myself. I could have bought my [ __ ] I gave you I have gave you 150 for my [ __ ]

Let me ask you a question about Drake because I'm I'm trying to get into the psychology of Drake. You said there's two fights.

I This is my opinion. I'm I agree with your assessment. The second fight I get,

the first fight against Kendrick, do you think he's consciously doing that? Do you think he thinks Do you think he's sitting in this house like I'm going to get him back?

Yes, [ __ ] Yeah. 100%. Then that's my [ __ ] You broke my spirit. You broke my ego. you broke my

public image that I had in a worldwide sense. Well, why why we act like why we act

like he also doesn't doesn't have the fan base to support that type of thinking. Like it's not like that the whole world is saying you bugging out. A

lot of people think that he's still in the right and should like that. That is true. So when so even while you have the other

people saying [ __ ] you can block that out by your fans standing by you and say, "Nah, [ __ ] that. You were right. Keep killing. Keep killing."

It's just so not hip-hop. Again, it's not hip-hop at all. I have no I don't think he cares about that. This is past hip hop. And it's hard for me to

believe because Drake loves hip-hop. And Drake cares so much about legacy and image. Think he care more about hip-hop.

Stay right there. Stay where you are. [ __ ] with my legacy. [ __ ] with my legacy by calling me a pedophile to the

entire planet Earth. And And it's almost the song is so big that [ __ ] kind of

accepted it. The narrative. Why did I just make another song? Because when I tried to rap it out,

[ __ ] stopped the beef. Said, "No, you lost." That's true. You lost, [ __ ] Do people do people

A minor like yo fam to a [ __ ] with a ego that [ __ ] is something? Do people remember that even in like if

you take the Jay and Nas beef right and after Nas dropped ether it was kind of solidified.

You you lost Jay still dropped some fire bars after that and it was just no one cared over

like at this point the narrative had been formed. The narrative was already formed. That's true. Drake uh uh Jay-Z dropped his most fire

bars on Blueprint 2. Correct. But you know the difference. You know the difference? What? We talking J and Nas

New York. I mean granted the rest of the country hurt pre- internet pre. Right. True.

This was performed at the Grammys won all the awards and the Super Bowl. And my whole argument is

y'all artificially inflated that record to even get to that level. But here's my problem with it. I think

that Drake is single-handedly trying to change the outlook of hip-hop. I mean there's certain principles that you know

is conducted in hip-hop meaning that when there's a battle in this records you say you know Biggie said what he

said you know you let it lie where you where it lies no one and and you I have

to look at how you were raised in in order to even understand what's

being done meaning like people from the hood or from the struggle not saying

Drake wasn't from that but you grew up different so you understand and you value things a little bit different and

you and and the principles and morals even though it's changing now some people still value that. So if you diss

me, I diss you, [ __ ] I go my way. I see you. We going to hop you and flip you. We go our way. We try to figure it out. Drake is taking this to court and

making it seem like, which is I guess he has enough audience to do it. Making it seem like it's cool to do. So it make it

seem like if if I say something to you, you say something back to me. And even if the inflation is going to happen,

[ __ ] you're going to you're going to try any tactic to get your record out there. You're going to try any tactic to

be the winner. True. That's that's what it is. This this hold two things with that.

One, we keep saying hip-hop. Hip-hop. This is much bigger than hip-hop. This is not Drake is much bigger than

hip-hop. So, we comparing hip-hop is still the core. But just just give me a second. We're comparing Drake to other beefs to

artists that's never gotten to this level. We've never seen a artist reach a rap artist

reach where Drake is at. So, I don't even like the trying to box this as a hip-hop thing.

My business, my brand is bigger than this at this point. You are not affecting my hip-hop side.

You are affecting my brand. You are affecting everything.

So yeah, I got to defend this. I mixing this up. Yo, [ __ ] music. This ain't got

nothing to do with music. Like dog, Nike is pausing on my releases right after

this [ __ ] Like c certain [ __ ] like that that we again, this [ __ ] is a international star. You talking about

big? Big wasn't never an international star. Like fifth fifth was big. Fifth sued

people, right? But he's not suing people over hip hop this record. My problem with this is that

you started taking it to a messy place and the mess backfired on you absolutely

horribly. Yeah, I know y we make the joke all the time. But yeah, we know. Yeah. Like fifth suit people fifth suit

people. We talking about fifth suit people. 50 will take you to court, but he's not suing over. Jau didn't sue 50

over and and and and 50 whatever 50 did at the time to Jau put Ja Ru on a pause,

a permanent pause at one point. There's nothing that Ja Ru could do or Kelly, he could have got whoever he want and but

Jau didn't go take 50 to court. But Flip, let me ask you with everything that Drake potentially gets to gain in

this type of a win, none of the other people ever had that type of leverage. Like I understand so

do so do you prioritize hip-hop in that mode or you do look at No you prior you you do prioritize your

business but what is where it stems from it becomes tricky to me like if they had

like if they made AI stuff or stuff where to

sort of add to them calling him a PDF then I'll say no you need to get sued for that. That's what he's saying. That's what he's saying. That's

he's saying they had add in meaning that like a I use the word AI meaning videos or trying to do

something funny to show and if it was spread all over the world and if affected his business I understand that we're just talking about a rap lyric

a bot is AI no you I'm talking about you understand what I'm saying you're talking about

specific there's a difference between just a rap bar yeah that loosely alluded really to your crew

being weirdos and you amongst that and a difference between making some

fabricated videos or documents or something that that's what I'm saying. Yes. Thank you. I feel like Drake's thing is this is the

fight that he's he's had before this whole Kendrick thing even started where he wanted to be in a position of

ownership the the Michael level of I own my public I own my masters and this is a roadblock

to getting to that point. So, I have to deal with it in this manner. Like, there's no other way to get to that

point. And I I think that me personally, I think that at some point he thought I'm

larger than life. Mhm. And my ego is the size of the [ __ ] aquarium. And then you come back in

there and they like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Chill, fam. You're an artist, [ __ ]

You You still an artist. We going to give you 400 million. You thinking on your reup you might get a billion. You might get whatever. You still an

artist." And I think at some point in time, and Joe alluded to this one time, like you sitting on the other side of

the table and after a while, you still feel real realize you sitting on the other side of

that table. You want to be on this side now. What is it going to take for me to get on this side? And they never going to let you get on that side, [ __ ] You

still work for me. You're an artist. What's interesting to me in this, I don't know if anybody, you probably didn't, but uh uh watch the Kelsey's and

Taylor Swift podcast. No, I heard it was amazing. It was really good. I heard it was good. I mean, it was

funny. It's there were some moments where I was like, if we tried to talk about baking bread and liking otter

pictures on Instagram, Joe would absolutely rip our [ __ ] faces off and they could do that, which is funny.

Different uh different cultures, I guess. Anyway, the way that she handled getting her masters back versus what he's doing to get his masters back to me

is very interesting. She talked about um essentially kind of winning with kindness. Like she just had like her mom

and her people go talk to the people that owned her [ __ ] I mean, you haven't seen it. So, I mean, the

approaches versus going scorched earth. I'm suing everybody. She just put her head down and worked

and came up with creative ways. How do we know he didn't do that?

We didn't go re-record a bunch of his albums and go platinum with them again. And he didn't do none of the [ __ ] that

she's been doing for the past 10 years in order to get her [ __ ] Did the previous label try to do anything that she felt was trying to

stifle her? Yes, I'm sure. cuz that's Drake's thing. Like y'all are basically

lowering my value by pumping these narratives. And now, especially if we're in re if

we're in negotiations, oh dog, now we talked about Shannon Sharp, the $100 million.

Then XYZ happens. Let's say that conversation was to continue with ESPN.

We all said it. You ain't looking at the hund no more, right? We see it in sports. So it's it's it's something like that.

Yeah. Sports. We see it in sports. Kaminga. Kaminga. Right now, Golden State didn't want to re-up him allegedly. They tried to sit him.

You know what I'm saying? Then somebody got hurt in the playoffs. They ain't have no choice but to play him. He kicked ass in the playoffs and they

still not trying to really, you know what I'm saying? So they'll sit you to diminish your value so that you can't go nowhere else and get mad bread.

You got to stay here. Yo, if he was if he I don't know. What if he was just if he was just suing UMG

and and and for something else and like it was the artist against the machine and he's big enough to represent

all the artists that was taken advantage of by the machine then I was sold that's how like yeah Drake yeah

Drake the fact that it's on the back of Kendrick and the diss record that's where it becomes a little tricky for me.

Yeah I stood by him when it was like yo he's suing Universal he not necessarily suing Kendrick. Um, so that was one

thing. I think that if you are demanding that they bring somebody's [ __ ] DNA records,

that's nasty. I think that's a little I think it's a little stretch. But but again, if I'm trying to prove

everything, I go through the truth. Yeah. I personally go through what I got to do. But even in proving everything is the truth. What is it? What is going to get

you? What's the angle? That's not going to get you your masters back. Yeah. It's not going to get you your masses back. It's not going to get you a win in the battle.

Y'all cheating. Y'all cheating. Because one of the things that everybody

stood on the Pusher [ __ ] was some of that [ __ ] that Pusher was saying about him personally and y'all was like, "Look

at this piece of [ __ ] [ __ ] Pusher exposed him." So if you got your ass whipped like that before, you think that the way I could get my lick back is to

do what Pusher did to me to Kendrick. I think this [ __ ] has been embarrassed on a worldwide level, my [ __ ] Like I don't

know what that feels like cuz I've never been like him. Yeah, but it's Pat. We pass that. The embarrassment is over. It's to us. It's

it's it's over to us, [ __ ] We didn't feel what he feel. I think that [ __ ] feels like a [ __ ] dodo outside.

All right. So So again, I'm not I wouldn't do that. I think it's corny to bring somebody's children into any of

that [ __ ] I think that's whack. I'm saying from his perspective, he might be like, "I think he just trying to I think

in closing for me, I think he's just trying to prove motive. He's trying to prove that yo, everything this [ __ ] said was a lie,

right? Y'all pumped it." I said that we're on the same label. I everything I said is the truth and I'm

trying to prove that it was the truth and y'all stepped on it. Yeah, I think it's a legal strategy. That's what I think I that's what I was

saying from the beginning. But I think it looks nasty and it makes the It looks nasty. But I got to get nasty to

It makes the ass whooping look even more biblically. We'll never see an ass whooping like this again.

It's been a great talk. Yeah. Yeah, we got it. Godamn. Oh my. I try. Yeah. I see.

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Out of nowhere, man. Yo, how the [ __ ] Ericson just leave? Yo, today's a weird little day.

Yeah, it is. I'm tight. Who's back? What they want, [ __ ] Julian. Hey, don't just be hating

on my man E. E is here at like Groundhog's Day. No, I'm hating on you. [ __ ] I'm hating. I'm hating. [ __ ] He

walked out. Yo, he talking to the deuce. I was like, "Oh, you want to get your food or something?" No backpack. Backpack.

Well, well, he's here a lot, so you know what I mean? All the time. Stop here. And he's here on time. He's very punctual. So, he

deserves a vacation. Oh, so I'm out then. You second. Yeah, you're second.

No, I'm second. I would be first. No. In terms of What day off I ever had?

No, you don't have days off. Ice I mean as far as early days is here the earliest. Yeah, for sure.

But you've never had a day off, right? No. He also doesn't live in Jersey. So, I mean, you've had days off kind of.

There was one actually. There was one at the uh Pream Studio. Yeah. Couple. I think it was just one.

No, I think it was a maiden after your wedding. Yeah. I did I did dude named Charles.

Uh, no. Casey. Casey. Got shout out to Casey. Shout out to Casey.

Shout out to Parks. Word. Well, thank you for shout. Hey yo, don't hate. Shout out to E. I'm hating.

Yeah. I'm still going to hate. [ __ ] that. So, what y'all want to talk about? Um, can't be serious.

I don't serious. We already got people acting crazy when it gets a little serious. Look,

throwing stuff, hitting glasses down. Hey, h I don't care. Yeah, I don't like none of that. By the way, I want to address something

cuz the internet's been mad this week. Oh god. About what now? About I think they're mad at Joe, not

me. Um about about um the collective reaction. I think they're mostly mad at

Joe, but maybe the collective reaction to uh to mentioning uh Al Jazzer in Gaza

last week and your colleague. Yeah. And they say, "You people don't take anything serious." Kind of making it about y'all. And I think it's a

little unfair. And I want to say that. I think it's a little unfair. I think I think part of it is context, you know,

cuz people are like we don't talk about this stuff. I don't come here to talk about global politics. That's not what I

came here for. That's not why I take a job for I think my presence here is helpful. You don't want to share that money.

Night school. Night school every night. But that's what I feel like people like go watch my show. I do it every night and and zero

season starts in two weeks. You can watch me on Fridays. But I don't It's It's Did you just Yeah. Get you good. Good.

Every Friday is good. Let them cook. But the point is like I don't want people to think that I'm being silenced up here. Like I be trying to bring stuff

up and y'all be like, "Don't say that." I've never been edited. I've never been silenced. And they're going to say, "Y'all made me say that too. They're

going to be like, you know, blinks, right?" But like, no, I I can talk about this stuff. It's to me, this isn't the

space to talk about it because we these things deserve um in-depth analysis. They deserve 20

minutes or 30 minutes or 40 minutes. And we can't do that up here. That's not what the job is. If I work for ESPN, they wouldn't expect me to do it cuz

that's not the job. Similarly, if I'm here, that's not the job. You know, people personally hit you up.

Yeah, some people some people it's it's just like when I first came here, like why would you go there? It's the same kind of thought

process. It's like same as the women, right? Basically, you're still waiting for you to respond

as to why the [ __ ] you're here, right? And it's like I'm up here to have to be part of a great conversation, which we are every week. So, I don't I

don't want people to feel like I feel a way about that conversation. Would I have preferred if y'all had said like,

"Sorry to hear that. Rest in peace. Move on. Maybe play some some some gap banding." Yeah. Yes. I'm not going. But that's a

blip. But the actual decision to not talk about it in depth or to not have a reaction in terms of

anal I'm cool with that cuz it's a complicated topic. And if people don't have an analysis of it, I don't want to I don't want

And that's the truth. I think the truth is why we don't talk about it. A lot of us have Well, I have a a a skew. What's

the word? Skew is the right word. I have an ignorance ignorant view on things. I don't want to

mispe right I don't want to say anything that may become insensitive and a lot of times that happens. So and

we're not really familiar with the topics and stuff like that or what's going on. Now maybe we should uh or me

let me speak for myself should read more and and understand what's going on. We all should it's not just you. We all should and opencluded our eyes and stuff

like that. the topics become because we see what happens a lot when you touch on these topics and if you take a stance we

see what happens we see the outcome and I just don't want to misspeak I don't me I can speak for myself I don't want to

say nothing I don't want to just tom I keep myself informed by not enough to talk about it like I'm I'm cool

cuz if you don't know what you're talking about or you do like and this last thing I'll say on this Madonna did this earlier this week where she made an Instagram post where she was kind of

like I don't want to take sides on this but kind of like thoughts and prayers and you know love to the babies and she got blasted for that and I was one of

the people that blasted What did she what she was talking about? Gaza, you know, just Okay. Yeah. But my point is that sometimes if

you don't know anything, you just say I'm here basically like I'm rooting for everybody. That can be bad. Yes, it can. You know what I mean? So like if you

don't know enough to have an opinion on it, we don't have to talk about it. But people may be mad at you because they may feel that Mark, you not mad at him.

Wait, hold on. Listen, you been I'm going to get you in a little bit about about you and this Mark because you

checked on him about his back and then check on my man. Listen. Um,

the people may say, "Well, Mark, why don't you teach them?" Cuz every night on Night School,

YouTube. Yeah. 10 p.m. You get too much money over there. I don't like as opposed to here.

There's money coming out the [ __ ] faucets here. How are you talking about? You get a lot of Yo, I'll be I watch night school. You get a lot of money

over there. I appreciate it. That's all I'm watching though. I'm not watching school. You watch camera? No, I'm watching his I'm only watching.

Look how quiet. Look. Look how quiet how white park gets. You know what I'm saying? Like

this guy has It's wild if nobody looked at parks when you said the way it's but like

why why is it's quiet. Why doesn't it's And it's just is well versed in these things. It's not my platform.

Got it. And again that's not what we do here. And it's okay. Like I think the worst platforms are platforms that try to do everything.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like that's not the job. No. You get tired of that, right? Just everywhere you go, you feel like you

have to be the spokesperson for Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And and and it become when I'm out here, people be like, "Why don't you

show up black [ __ ] more?" Because I'm in, you know, like what the [ __ ] Like watch me on podcast. Watch me on night.

And it's the same thing for all of us up here, you know? I think we all have things that we sent away, [ __ ] Are you Are you going

Are you Are you Are you going to Gaza? Uh no. If I can help it. Um I I I can't

right now. I don't want to right now. It's not It's not safe. And that while I respect people who are going and doing that work,

like I said, every one of my colleagues has been killed. Yes. And he has, you know, young children and he has family.

That's not a choice I can make right now. Right. It's not Thank you. Thank you, Mel.

Yo, let me ask you a question. I First of all, thoughts and praise. You can't just agree. Wait, hold on. Wait, wait. Rest in

peace. No, just like you can't agree with me otherwise you're you're a s and you're pandering. Oh, whoa. Rest in peace to your fallen

colleagues and stuff like that. Rest in peace. We didn't do that last time. Rest in peace. Thoughts and prayers and um

salute to their family. Kill you on Patreon now. Now go ahead.

You think you still going on Patreon? See this after this coffee? You think I'm let you on Patreon? Do it again.

COappy

[ __ ] Okay. I got these. Yo. Yo, I heard after I said it. That sounds crazy broadcast.

Did you say flip? You saying so? So, here's my issue with you today.

I don't really have I'm glad you said today. I'm not going to hyperfocus on you. Okay. I just noticed that you were concerned about one friend and not the other. Like

I hurt my leg the other day. I fell in the hallway. You walked past me and sat

down. You didn't ask me anything, but you asked Mark about his back. You're such a liar. I have a dish. Come

on, man. I did not know you fell in the hallway. That's number one. You made it sound like I just stepped over you and you [ __ ] heard as well.

That's how I heard it happen. [ __ ] I did. I heard he was laying across the hallway and you walked right over.

Daisy and Daisy did a little That's what I heard.

No, it's been an ongoing thing with him. His back has been hurting him for like a really long time and he refuses to do

anything about it. I have tried to push him, you know, in the right direction. I'm like, "Go see my physical

therapist." Yo, how far There's There's a There's another Still too early.

There's There's another double M. There's another M that's around. I should be pushing him to think it's

bad. Everybody up here. There's another M that'll stop that. Everybody M.

Everybody up here has expressed concern about everybody else's wellbeing. It's not that big a deal.

I agree with her. Hold on real quick. I agree with her. We ain't worried about you. I'm good. No. No. And you do take care

of my back. I go to acupuncture. I go to chiropract because you act like you're the superhero of the world. But who's going

to save Superman? Every time outside in the balcony, I pull you to the side. Yo, you all right? Yo, what's good? Are you okay? No. All

the side. No. Look. Look. Look. The haters. Who's going to save Superman? Who is

Why you laughing? Go ahead, [ __ ] Don't ever say who's going to save Superman. Who is the [ __ ] is you talking?

I like this man. Hey yo, listen, Robin. Nothing serious. Hey yo, Robing Lenny Papa Green Arrow.

Chill the [ __ ] out. Stop. Call [ __ ] Rob. I don't care. You can't throw [ __ ] at me. I can stand up. I can stand up,

[ __ ] That I don't like what you did. All right, blob. I take that. I take that. I take that. But what I'm saying,

don't laugh at that. Super. No, I'm laughing at all this stupid [ __ ] that y He said what he said. Let's move on.

Let's move on, please. Can we talk about the Minnesota Vikings making some history here? M

what [ __ ] history? They're having cheerleaders. Male cheerleaders. Oh, it's so dorkers.

Oh [ __ ] Didn't see that calling. Yo,

you would have been genuine in the purple and

I'm a cowboy for real. All right. See you. Yo, you would have had a little Viking suit.

Oh [ __ ] Why you picturing me in a biking suit? Your [ __ ] and he is

walking around documenting [ __ ] too. He's like doing like a documentary. So is that what you're doing

after watching those [ __ ] singing on the internet now? Yeah. Folding jeans.

Let me think about I took a page. I took a page. I took a

page. You got some [ __ ] in the car with you. You standing by the the boy's car in Harlem like what the

going through his life. My favorite [ __ ] was having him having the cameraman with the cameraman following the cameraman. Yeah [ __ ] How about it documents? Nah,

I'm not going to lie. I I'm glad to be where I'm at in life. Sure. Let me just say that.

I'm glad you ain't on that escalator walking up there with the 17 cameramen. Nah, listen. You need the cameraman to follow the

cameraman. I went back to I went back to my old hoods where I lived. Went back to my old hood.

And let me just say yesterday, let me just say it was it was sad. Yo,

it was sad to see some of these buildings from 1983 still looking and

smelling the same like just nasty just documenting your life

and your travels. I've lived in 27 different places in my whole life. Was you working on the biopic?

And it's kind and it's kind of scary. I'm like, "Yo, I'm listen." I checked my text message. I went to the thread with

him. I said, "What is this [ __ ] doing?" Like, why are you why you why you taking us through your life, [ __ ] What are you preparing us for, [ __ ] Stop doing

that, bro. That's why I called you like four times the other day. You ain't pick up [ __ ] like that. Yeah.

Why are you doing that? Why are you walking us through your life, [ __ ] You young, [ __ ] What we You ain't going nowhere.

Still look like B Street. What are you trying to at least at least tell us? I know. At least tell us. At least tell us.

All right. So, so Ford Apache, you said you're taking a page out of somebody's book.

Cuz you you do nice documentation of like certain areas. So I was like, you know, I want to also tie into my life.

But you know, no, no joke, but when you deal with a certain thing, you deal with seeing your friends pass, you deal with

your own level of coming to your own mortality, you kind of like, not saying prep for some of the work, but you want

to go ahead and kind of dissect how far along you come. You don't know how much time you do have around. Yeah.

So for me, that was Father O'Neal was in your [ __ ] Yo, I'm [ __ ] I'm asking. No, you know what's crazy? I went back

there and they they closed down they closed down my first uh Catholic school. Praise the Lord.

They can't hurt you no more. That mean he might be on the list. We don't know. We don't know.

That's funny. You shot a [ __ ] twice today. That's crazy. You shot him twice today.

That's funny. For real. Do you do you feel safer now that it's closed? Like is a is there like a mentally like do you feel like

closure? You got closure. That's the word I was looking for. Thank you, man. No, you think

[ __ ] walking around doing a documentary with two cameramen. I'm looking at this [ __ ] like and I zoomed in too. I see

what type of camera he using. Like he really doing some documentary [ __ ] man. You going to tell that story? That's a story to tell.

Yeah. No, not I don't. There's no story to tell with that. I got the high notes.

You my when they get you going it is all right. I can't do nothing. So the Minnesota Vikings.

All right. I got it. I got it. The Minnesota Vikings have Shut the [ __ ] up.

Talk about something I'm interested in. Um the Minnesota Vikings are You interested in Mel's twerking?

Wait, what? Joe is going to kill you, lady. I'm talking to y'all. Don't worry about me. Okay. The

Minnesota Vikings have introduced Bla1 Chic and Louis Khan as male cheerleaders

for the 202526 NFL season. Sparker sparking a polarizing reaction amongst

fans and commentators. Blaze I can be Oh, the name

they do sound like male strippers. They do a little bit. Blaze chic

like a married American gladiator. What the [ __ ] is yo Louis?

I think it's interesting. Let me ask you as as a heterosexual woman,

does the idea of male cheerleaders appeal at all to you?

No, not really. And I feel like can we can't we just have can we like not have anything like just can we not have like

our own spaces where men don't from this? You don't want no cheerleaders. Okay, listen. If they're going to cuz

they're talking a lot about you know in uh you know inclusion and whatnot in this. I'm just like okay. So when does

that mean that women are going to be quarterbacks? No, [ __ ] [ __ ]

the sack record is broke the first game or or even or even widely or even widely

considered for the coaching staff. That's that's interesting. That's fair. Good job. That's so I'm just We want to talk as it

relates to men occupying the spaces that women have primarily occupied, but I'm I'd like to see that included.

Well, they're working there. They got they got um women referees. Mhm. Which for the I want to say last two

three seasons. Announcers. Announcers. Okay. I noticed that in the new Madden. One of the main announcers is a woman.

Really? Wait, that is Blaze. Let me see. Let me see. Come on. It's a scene.

Why did you search Blaze?

Show us. Yo, they said they saw real. Show us, bro.

[ __ ] Huh? Can you show Can we see this? We're live. He blaze sheet. This is funny, my [ __ ]

I'm not going to hold you. That's funny. This This is Yo, he can get the camera. You good? You

good, man? That's Blaze. You good? What? Just so the audience who can't see this, what's

happening? Eric, put that on. Yeah. Or describe Blaze Chic. Blaze Chic.

Oh, is it is it a fem is it is it a fem like a like a um It's It appears so. Okay, got you.

From what I just saw. Okay, I got you. You know, I don't want to speak out of turn. Leave the cheerleaders alone for the

Leave it for the ladies, man. Why though? Why though? Why not? Cuz this is equal opportunities, equal

rights. Yo, no. All right, listen. They do be having male cheerleaders cheerleaders in high school and stuff like college.

Yeah, they were the ones who were like holding they lift. Yeah, but come on, man. Like like almost like gymnasts almost. Now, what if what if one of the male

cheer cheerleaders don't don't want to lift? They want to be on top of the pyramid. They want to dance. Yeah, say Dons.

I think that's fine. Look, equality. Let me say this. Personally, I don't think we need any cheerleaders in in football. I just don't I I don't think

they add that much to the game. You know what I'm saying? Basketball's a little different. There sports where like baseball we don't cheerleaders. I mean, this isn't a I'm

just saying I don't I don't necessarily think we need cheerleaders in NFL games. That's just my my thought. We need the Cowboys cheerleaders.

Dolphins ones, too. And that's what they said about the Lakers. I mean, there are certain teams that are known for that because of the cities they come from, but in general, I

don't think we need them. But if you're going to have them, that's just my preference. But if you're going to have them, having men and women do it, I

think it's just I think it's fine. I think this is going to be I think this is a solution in search of a problem. I

think 99% of the time, no dude is going out for the the the Green Bay Packer

cheerleader team anyway. And it's not going to be an issue. Pack her. All right. Yo, Packer. That was alley.

You know, I I think that it should be equal opportunity like everything else that people fight for the rights for.

It ain't just there. The Rockets got men there. Yeah. And I think that's fine. The Rockies. I think that's

the Rocks. Rocks. Rockers. Yo, I don't think nothing wrong with that.

I just I I just think sometimes when we talk about opposite sides of the same coin, they don't play out the same. In the same way that some of y'all go to

strip clubs all the time, right? And there's You don't need inclusion there, right? I don't not not in your club, but

I'm saying like I don't think male strippers do the same thing for women that women strippers do for men.

They don't. Yeah. A lot of the women I know hate male strippers. That's what I'm saying. You're wrong. No, they don't. They be wrong. Break it

down for me. Tell me how I'm wrong. Blowing them off at at the parties dancing party, right? In our hood back in the day. That [ __ ]

was What was that? Uh the [ __ ] right down. Sprinkle out cayenne. Wait, how you looked?

I don't know. Is it cold in there, my [ __ ] That [ __ ] I don't know what he's talking about.

Y I wish I wish my brother Joe was here who is not uh he went too phobia. No

dog, them [ __ ] make hella bread hella hella hella

now. Coming to the stage. They call him how much you hit on a good swan. I never

I never Yo, stop. Women don't look at strip clubs the same way. They just That's what I'm saying.

Okay, let's let's use let's use Joe as an example. How often does Joe go to the strip club? Let's just say on average

Joe's Joe's different. No, sat up there and literally talked about stripper

culture and how and how frequent and how common it is for men to go to strip

clubs to watch women strip. Women do not think like that. It's a Vegas event or

it's a bachelorette party or it's it's some it's some other occasion. But trust me, we don't [ __ ] want to go see

[ __ ] [ __ ] derking with a [ __ ] twist [ __ ] you know uh song.

Y'all invite them to the bachelorette party and get real frisky with them. I didn't say that. Not only that.

That's the point though. Like we just they put the foreign objects in there. Like they get crazy at bachelorette party. Okay. Well,

you know what I'm talking about, Mel. I know. Not you doing it, but you know what I'm talking about. I can't really say. I can't really

imagine like what's the last bachelorette party I was at. The last one you was at and the stripper came through, y'all was going crazy.

No, a stripper didn't come through. Okay. You the [ __ ] we wanted. I think women I I would I would say so

I'm just saying like back in the day in our hood like that [ __ ] was popular. Today the women going to see the women

[ __ ] Women like women. That's interesting. Women like women. Today I'm not talking about no male strippers today.

Yeah, I do know that there's male strip clubs that don't stay empty. So obviously there obviously there's women

that go a lot of dudes too. I mean the strip clubs that I know of

usually are gay strip clubs. Those are the ones that are packed and they're packed with men, you know, but the

reality of the situation is it just I say male strippers tend to be very fluid and so a lot of interesting things

happen. Interesting, huh? Yeah, it's what I Yeah, it interest you. Uh, the topic does. Yeah.

Why your next dish? Coming to the stage, miss.

He walking slow. You know I

[ __ ] live to the stage, boy. Oh [ __ ] Am I Have you ever danced? Have you ever

done that? Yeah. Up here? No. No. I mean like in a club. Yeah. Uh Mars 212 when they was open.

Yeah. I've never danced for money. No. I've never something else at you.

Why? You think you'd be good at it? Holy [ __ ] I It seemed like it could have been on his resume.

Have you danced for a woman before? Cuz he's an entertainer. Not a disc. Cuz he's an entertainer. No. Have you dare to take off your clothes slowly and dance for a woman?

I've done I've done that before. He's Yeah. Hey yo, so ancient. What song was playing?

Pony. It's female script song, I'm pretty sure.

Oh man. Yo, y'all disgusting. That [ __ ] that [ __ ] lip was

Father Father Jackson was happy as hell. I told you. I said I'm sorry. That is funny. Yo,

no more Father Jackson. That's hilarious. All right. Y'all want to get into this uh top podcasting list, man?

Let's give a round of applause for a guy. Salute to Joe, man. Number four. No, I'm not saluting Joe. I'm saluting to us. We are the podcast, too.

So what? So what? We all won this [ __ ] too. That's a win for everybody. I didn't say that [ __ ] when they left me off the [ __ ] uh New York Times.

We did. We was in the New York Times. So yeah, we're great. I wasn't mad at that. No

wonder take take your ass to the post.

National Inquirer shoe fly. Yo, that's hilarious.

Oh man. Yo, we we we did defend you, but you wasn't on the No, it's cool. It's cool. But but it's

cool. Hollywood reporter put out the most influential influential

most powerful or powerful players in podcast. Different word. Okay. Well, it's uh whether they're

behind the mic or behind the scenes, these trailblazers are steering the maturing medium through an increasingly

crowded landscape and critical transitions to video and AI.

You need to be on Moana part four. Moana. Moana.

I'm going for it. I believe you. Okay. So, number one is Smart List. It's got Will Arnett, Jason Baitman, and

Shawn Hayes. They started that during the pandemic and ended up with a hund00 million deal at Sirius XM.

Damn. Yeah, I like all of them though. So, I listen to it. It's cool. Yeah. Um, the next one is The Daily and uh

it's the New York Times flagship podcast. News Pod. Yeah. Um, and then the next one is Stuff You

Should Know. It's been around for 17 years. I know this one a little bit. They just they they were the senior editors at how stuffworks.com. So, it's

all the [ __ ] that you didn't know you wanted to know. magazine. And then at number [ __ ] four is the

Joe Buddton podcast. [ __ ] that up again. [ __ ] that.

It's not the podcast. You know what I mean? It ain't the podcast. It's the podcast, [ __ ] It does say the Joe Button podcast.

Oh, look at that. Look at that. It does say talent [ __ ] It don't say Justin Baitman by himself.

What does it say? Okay, so it says, "A decade after Joe Buddton launched his namesake podcast, it remains the most

influential in all of hip hop. The rapper turned media soul recently revealed that his podcast network is

expected to generate more than $20 million in 2025 between subscriptions and ads, making him one of the most

successful podcasters in the industry." When he was asked biggest challenge facing podcasting now, he said it's us

versus algorithms. Fair. Yeah, that is the truth. That's Indie. Yo, shout out to Joe.

Indie. That's Indie. Huh? Say it again. Got to say that. That's Indie. That ain't nobody that nobody that

salute. Salute. Mhm. Damn. They read the Times article, too.

Yeah. Patreon leak changed everything. It really did. I was just talking to my man about that [ __ ] the other day.

Nothing was the same. Mhm. Talking about just bumping into people and seeing tweets and [ __ ] like, "Oh, they read the article."

Yeah, man. They read the article. That should change people's tones like overnight, boy. Right.

Joe Rogan is number 17 on this list. That surprises me. And so I don't know. I'm I'm trying to figure out if this is like in some kind

of like if it is actually in an order cuz it's not saying like one, two, three. It's just

listical, but like if it was, he's number 17. He's like under Call Me Daddy. He's

under Mel Robbins. He's under Michelle Obama's new new podcast. Um, I mean, in fairness, I haven't seen a

whole ton of viral moments from his show in the way that we used to. So, I mean, that's true. There may be some analytics to back.

I mean, but have we seen viral moments from the other ones as well like that? Michelle Obama's. Yes. I mean, hers, but I mean, as far as

Jason Baitman join, I don't even think that that matters. Well, they're not video. As far as I know, they're not video.

They're audio only. Oh, yeah. They listen. Off the audio.

Off the audio. Sick. That [ __ ] is nuts. Well, congratulations.

Shout out to everybody. Congratulations. Shout out to Joe. Shout out to us. Salute, man. We We did it. We did it.

Yeah, we did it. All right. Something we didn't cover in music was uh Lil Yacht. He's got some new music out right now. That's uh

getting people a little ups. A little riled up. Mhm. Uh I guess I'll play. I don't really

want to, but [ __ ] it. Okay. That's enough.

Even before I got to that bar, I don't know what the opposite of a gunshot or air horn is, but I would have hit that.

A fart. Fart. [ __ ] fart. A loud [ __ ] fart. Yeah.

Um, that's horrible. Yeah. You got to read the room. You got to read the country. [ __ ] the

room. You got to read. You know what I'm saying? I think it's a little It's just like politically incorrect and a little bit distasteful.

It's more than a little distasteful putting my knee in her neck. What the [ __ ] are we doing? What are we talking about here?

Am I missing something? I did see a [ __ ] do some wild [ __ ] in one of them videos. He had to

I don't know. Wait, you did it. Your primary put your knee in the neck. Sounds like I I I hear you. Your

frustration about putting your knee on her neck. And I think it's I think much of America all of the above. Like the whole thing

is offensive, but I'm like could we could we just address the fact that this is like a really horrible thing to say?

Yeah. It is. It's terrible. It's disgusting. It's terrible. Yeah. It's horrible. It's terrible. And then to use George Floyd as a

reference, like who the [ __ ] raised this kid? That's why like I I I sound like a little old lady right now. I know I do. No, I I I I feel like a like a old head

now. I have a controversial thought. Something I said the other day that that stuck with me again that I want to pick

up on. Um first, George Floyd using him in that sentence to me is

so representative of where we are as a culture. Mhm. And and that's what's frustrating me. When I was younger, it bothered me.

But now as a old person, it makes me sad. It's like we we marched, we bled, we cried, we struggled because a police

officer killed George Floyd and because black men and women are getting killed around this country. And to mock it to

me is is is distasteful. I think it reminds me of when Lil Wayne had the lyric about imit.

I was going to bring that up. And even in that, not to cut you off, please. The backlash wasn't immediate,

right? It was years later, right? Like that was Karate Chop remix and that that record line, all that [ __ ]

rang off, right? It wasn't The times are different now. So yeah, now you say something like

that. Cuz that's that's the first thing I heard when I heard this. I'm like, "Oh, he doing the same shit." Reason,

you can't do that. Different damn time. Yeah. Different day and time. Read the room. Read the room. But I also

have some common sense. That's the part for some decency. Some decency. That's the point for me is like I want us to be at a place as a culture,

as a community, as a people where we don't want to do [ __ ] like that. I agree. You get what I'm saying? Like like that's all I'm saying. Like I I get read

the room, it's different time, but also it's all true, but like also like I don't want to raise a child. I don't

want to our community raise children that mock our our fallen ancestors that mock our elders that mock people who

died for us or who got killed as as whose lives were like a ransom for our struggle. Like for me that's [ __ ] up

and that's the part that really makes me sad and it make and what I was saying I earlier you mentioned I don't know it

was it was Tuesday you said something about uh with Cedor Tucker. Mhm. And when I look back I remember in the

'9s and even in the early arts we used to talk about Cedor Tucker and Dion Ward like they were hating on hip hop in a bad way.

They were [ __ ] right. They were 100% right. They were. Yes and no.

Yes and no. Yes and no. Because again, there is a part of that first amendment freedom of expression part that is what hip hop was

that point. Can y'all inform me what was said as far as back in the day C. Dolores Tucker she

was Was she in Congress? No, she was um what was her official title? I thought she was Congress.

She used she used they were they were like doing um congressional hearings and

[ __ ] to try and get some of the misogyny and some of the vulgarity out of hip-hop

back in the day. Okay. um activist and former secretary of the Commonwealth for Pennsylvania.

Yeah. Got you. So, so all of the all of the rappers and all of them used to be

kind of dissing them like Pac was dissing them. Other other other rappers used to diss them. I understand now from

a parental standpoint that some of these things are horrible. Some of these things should not be said. But from an

artistic standpoint and if that's how we speak in our day-to-day life and music supposedly mirrors reflects that

our our day-to-day life and our day-to-day struggle, that's how people speak outside. When I come up to you,

what up, my [ __ ] You don't say, "Yo, don't don't call me the n-word because it's not politically correct." That's

not You get what I'm saying? So, so some of

those things are just reflective. We don't do that in movies. We don't tell the movie people, yo, don't do these

things and don't say these things because and again, visual art is more powerful than audio. I

No, that's I don't I do not agree with that at all. I think that this I think that the spoken word when you don't have

a visual and you have to use your imagination can be more powerful than the visual because you can just like

just have like you know glazed eyeballs and well that's where your imagination takes you but somebody else putting it on the

screen is where they're like like Scarface the movie did more than Scarface the rapper to me all day I said like Hob said and I

always say whole barf everything Scarface the movie did more than Scarface the rapper to me that Scarface interview by the way is

absolutely fire. I don't know if y'all watch that same clip. Give an example.

I was going to give the example of like, you know, if I say who's the voice of God, I feel like the whole room will know who I'm talking about.

Morgan Freeman, right? Exactly. Every everybody knows that. Like when you I feel like I just

think that when you get into people's heads through their through your voice and they start to do narration using

your voice, I think that that is like an incredible place of power. Great point. But that came from Morgan Freeman. That came from movies. take

from a movie. Okay. So, just using him as an example, but I um Googled um when I Googled uh C.

Dolores Tucker, this post came up on Instagram says C. Dolores Tucker told us in the '90s that we would be exactly

where we are today. Um rap music has done a number on the black community just like she said it would. I can only

imagine how much more real progress the black community would have made had we listened to her and how much safer and

healthy our communities would be. goes on to say, you know, she made a quote, "You can't listen to all that language and filth without it affecting you."

So, about crack. Like, what the [ __ ] Who wrote that? When that happens, I agree. I here's

here's where I would have a departure from her. First, first, a couple things, right?

One, there's the first amendment question. Yeah. People should have a right to say what they want. This is for me. This isn't a legal question. People

should have a right. As I said, I want people to want different choices. I don't want to restrict people's choices. I just want people to want different

want to say it. You shouldn't want to say that. I remember when when Deion Warick uh spent some time with Suge and Snoop and was it

Dre and Snoop? I believe it was Suge and Snoop, but it was definitely Snoop was there and she was like, "Call me a [ __ ] now."

And they wouldn't do it. They wouldn't do it. Snoop was like, "That's the most gangster." She was the the biggest gangster in the room that day because there is a there's a way

that when you're on the record, you can say certain things that you might not say in your personal interactions, right? Because we've been raised with respect and respected elders.

But Dion still got to hear them songs and those nuances and distinctions are made on the record. So for me, it's about wanting different things. But then

the other piece of this is we do have to we do have to make a distinction between

sort of the structural [ __ ] that happens to us. People aren't selling drugs because they heard a rapper sell drugs.

People are jobless. People have had markets closed on them. I mean schools don't open. I mean there's a million

things. If I'm making a list of reasons why people sell drugs wouldn't make the top 20 make the top 20. So so we're not

going to blame rappers for the conditions. But at the same time, I think

the mirror excuse for me always lets us off the hook a little bit for our behavior. Because when you mirrors do

reflect reality, but when I look in a mirror most days and I see the [ __ ] up [ __ ] I try to fix it. I see my hair is

out of place, I brush it. I see some coal in my eye, I wipe it out. Except that one time, right? There's a way that

like the mirror is supposed to be a corrective. But a lot of times when we look at hip-hop or listen to hip-hop, it

doesn't necessarily the music isn't inspiring us to not call women the B- word. It's not inspire us to not shoot each other. And when I'm walking around

Philly or New York or New Jersey or whatever and I'm here watching just take drill rap for example, we're killing each other and the music isn't inspiring

us to stop killing each other. Whereas a mirror inspires us to look better and act better. This music is not inspiring that. And that's the thing again. I want

us to want something different. We may not it may not be inspiring us to do so, but it's not it's not preventative

in in any way, shape, or form. And also in terms of like music may not make you a you know may not be the reason that

you sold. Well, I don't know if that's necessarily true because of years and years and years of glorifying like drug

dealing and the drug business there. There are there are people who grew up listening to it and aspired to actually

do that. I agree with that, too. And and you said that I listen to that. Well, you said that what about the jobs that

are that the that the youngans or the younger people don't want to take, don't want to do.

That's where culture is important, but I don't want to. Are you making a you finish? I don't Yeah. No, no, no. Cuz that that when you

say that the the jobs may be there, but then some of the people in in our culture may

not want to take the jobs, right? They want they want to follow what they hear or what they see, right? When you go and see the

if your mom don't have it, she's working a 9 to5. You see her sweating all day, coming to work, coming late, and you're

not able to get the stuff that you want, but you watch Tommy over there, he's getting all the money, and he's selling

drugs, right? So, but I can also be a kid to go get a job at a fast food

restaurant, but I want the fast thing because of the culture. So, I would follow in Tommy's footstep. Right. So, it all coincides. You don't think

so? It does. But I and I think as a young person, I would relate to say Jay-Z or

Nas or who Scarface, whoever, more than I would relate to somebody else. So, their stories were were more persuasive

to me than the bigger culture stories. But, but but I don't want to act like this stuff is

indigenous to hip-hop. Everybody in America wants to be rich without working. Everybody in America is

overextended. Everybody spends more spends more than they make. And in every culture on the planet, [ __ ] the bad boy gets woripped.

I was just talking about how Yo, fam, the Italian [ __ ] they wanted to be mobsters coming up. That's not

something that is only Yeah. Like, come on. That's not something that's that's just I hate how hip-hop takes the brunt for a

lot of And be clear, my [ __ ] um prior to somebody rapping about these conditions, the conditions had to exist

for me to be able to write about them. And I was saying when I was in Nashville at the country museum or whatever, they had [ __ ] all types of gun

glorification and there's mad country songs about the same kind of [ __ ] that's happening in rap. But so so my point is, yo, fam, if these

conditions didn't exist, then NWA couldn't have written about them. The conditions had to exist first. Rap

didn't create the conditions that some of these conditions created the rap lyrics. People raped about what they saw, what

they were living their story. Little kids every single day, whether you white, whether you black, whether

you whatever, the little boys in the world want to emulate the people that they see get reverence and praise. So if

it's a pimp in your neighborhood that gets the reverence and praise, guess what you want to do? You want to be a pimp. If it's a doctor in your neighborh

neighborhood that gets reverence and praise, you want to grow up to be a doctor or athlete or whatever the case may be. So, a lot of these things are uh

uh people trying to mimic what they see. They're not mimicking what they hear so much as what they see.

I'm not sure that a song about welding is going to slap that much cuz don't get no [ __ ] It's it's okay to call it's

okay to call this [ __ ] a ignorant [ __ ] who says some ignorant [ __ ] without vilifying hip-hop. Like I think like

that like we we you make it more than what what's needed to be at the moment. There are a lot of moments where yes,

hip-hop does influence some ignorant thoughts, but that's not this ain't one of them. there. I don't think hip- hop I

don't think hip-hop in general mirrors and we're choosing that [ __ ] Like it's rap cities out here, fam. We are

choosing some of the other lyrical [ __ ] that that chance. It's [ __ ] out here that we can

go to if that's what you want to go to. But but if we're talking about systemic [ __ ] it's not the Little Yachty and and

Emit Till references, George Floyd, and I references. Those I think are outliers. But misogyny, homophobia,

that [ __ ] is baked into hip-hop because it's baked into American culture. No, no, that was that was baked into

just just Americ

but here's the I'm just at a stage in life and I don't I agree with everything y'all just said. I'm just at a stage in life where I don't want to stay there.

Like I don't care that everybody else does it. I don't cuz I only care about the fact that black people are killing each other

a whole lot. True. and I'm tired of us killing each other. And so if we keep rapping about killing each other and then I'm watching

these kids kill each other, then I watch them rap about having just killed each other and not just uh fictional [ __ ] They're like, I killed this [ __ ] on

this corner 14th Street and yeah, I want us to stop killing each other. So I get all of America's I could watch

Tarantino and see the same [ __ ] But the difference is I'm not I don't identify with [ __ ] fiction.

That that's all I'm saying. And the misogyny is the same. And I'm just at a point where I don't want to just keep saying white people do it or America

does it even though it's true because we got to be better than that. True. I don't want I don't want them to be our

bar. I agree with you. I'm just saying but when we look at it, we can't blame some of these things on rap. I think

that that that this societal conditions existed pre- rap. Yeah. Cuz

they did. Yeah. But Mark's point was is accurate as to what the current, you know, landscape looks like now. You

know, it's not exactly like, and I don't want to speak to what how I'm sorry. You know why Chants don't rap

about killing [ __ ] Because of how he was raised. He grew up in a family with two parents and Barack Obama knew him when he was a

child. Because he didn't have to kill [ __ ] He didn't have to kill [ __ ] He didn't rap about selling drugs cuz he didn't have to [ __ ] sell.

Can we also talk about hip-hop? Uh uh the the the normal consensus isn't that

everybody in hip-hop is moving and living like this. Like for hip-hop, it's a way out for a lot of people to get

from situations and better their life. That is the majority. There is the the small group of people who do live in

that type of way. But I feel like we focus hyperfocus on that so much instead of speaking about the positive part of what hip-hop does. That's what I get

disappointed about. So yes, you get these moments. You get those moments where we talk about [ __ ] glorifying, but for the majority of what hip-hop has

done for the community, it's not that. We had that conversation when Umar tried to go ahead and and say what he said.

No, stop making hip hop seem like it is the reason for a nation of black people

being down in the dumps. For a large part, it's a big part of why has come out of the [ __ ] And there's a lot like the most

successful hip hop for the most part is not the super violent, super offensive [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? Like

Drake, JCole, most of the people who live off of that, they here today and they gone tomorrow. [ __ ] Jermaine Dri was just here last

week. Yeah, he was he's I'm sure he close to a B. I don't want to count his pockets. My bad [ __ ] JD. But fam, at 17, 18, 19, 21

years old, he was employing tens of people. You know what I'm saying? At a young ass age, and I'm sure hip hop has

transformed the lives of all of those people that he's touched. For sure. Outside of sports, fam, it's hard to

find a vehicle that has made more successful people um

on on a certain scale than hip-hop than hip-hop. Like so so I don't again

it definitely has it bads for sure. We all I think everybody has everything.

Some of our bads are bad bad though. You know what I'm saying? But some of our conditions are bad. True. True. That's all I'm saying. I

just want I just want better. I just want better. And we don't have to use uh white people as our bar or our

reference. I'm just saying in society the bad boy gets woripped. Yeah. You're not wrong.

Um it's beginning to get worse. Worse. Donald Trump is president still.

He here for Yeah, man. And uh he sent in the National Guard to DC. Sent sent the National Guard to Hey, for

the record, Joe, I didn't put that on the board. I'm just transitioning. Yeah, man.

Congratulations. No. Yes. You transition? Yeah. Happy for you. I'll be at that. What's that club you used to go to in

20s? Yo. Uh, no. Cheeto T ain't playing with

these [ __ ] Yo. Yeah. What's What's the story though? Somebody had it. So, supposedly um he is sending the

National Guard into major cities in America, DC being the first one to quote

unquote clean up the city. Mhm. So, um, from what I hear,

actually, we saw clips of them just walking up on kid like people. Yo, you you guys got your ID on you?

Like it's like stop and frisk to the 10th power. You know what I'm saying? Nobody's doing anything. They're literally just existing.

It's being black outside. So if you outside and you smoke, you drinking a beer, you going to jail.

Like now we just finding [ __ ] kind of back in the day. It

prior to um right after slavery, they was just walking around picking [ __ ] up. Yeah. Black codes. Yeah. You you spit on the ground, you

going to jail. Like certain [ __ ] like that. I think they trying to get us to a place where we going to start um

repopulating the prisons. That's my personal opinion. I don't want to make no political stance for us, but I think

we headed there. Well, it's getting wild out there, man. If you in DC, please be careful out there. The curfews are kicking in and

you know what's crazy is the um CBC is happening like in a few weeks. Congressional Black Caucus, y'all.

Yeah. So, I have no idea how that's going to pan out. Damn. It's going to be better than that

Cleveland thing. Yo, the CBC No, it's not. Let me tell you. Yo, you guys really CBC

that [ __ ] serious. I'm trying to to so many calls after that that little discussion happened up here about NABJ.

Like they [ __ ] all over. It was like their 50th year. It's like there was so many reasons to that I wanted to talk

about it. What the NABJ stand for? [ __ ] at the end. I'm playing. I'm playing. I'm playing.

It's a joke. And y'all really be saying I'm the horniest person up your no

that's over. I'm playing, man. But yo, um, but peace. But you can send a

couple of them to the South Bronx. Clean that [ __ ] up. The National Guard.

I told you I was there this week. You better stop. Be careful.

You sounded like the Trumper up here. Trumper. Oh, no. But you know it was me.

Everybody thinks I was pointing to a certain person. cuz I'm not going to say who it was. Okay. To flip. They do think it's you.

They thought you was pointing to me and I wasn't. And you ain't make it clear or go on the internet and make it clear. It's a

disrespect. If I say who it was, it makes it it narrows it down. My mom and everything. I can't say who it was. I can't say who.

I'm narrowing it down in my in my little checklist. But you wrong for that. I didn't say anything. No. The funny part is somebody you know and you know

how passionate. Somebody thought he had some insider information voted for. I knew they told me. Okay.

Hey yo, listen. Listen to me. I'm going to text. I'mma text you. You doing that as a trick. It's no

trick. You know how passion you know how passionate I am. Especially with that, you know, as with my mom, how she feel about Trump and you know that I didn't

even vote. You know what I mean? And that'll show us when I vote for Trump. [ __ ] I didn't vote.

I'm saying, I'm sorry. You can't vote yet. Yo, listen.

I'm working on it. That checklist is getting That's why I don't want you to keep

talking about it cuz people going to find out by by by process of elimination.

Got it. I know it is. Got it. Ain't nobody in here vote for no [ __ ] I'm telling you. I know it is.

I'm not trying. I'm not It's not a theory. I'm telling you. I know it is. You ain't know. Yo,

[ __ ] they can hear you. Y microphone. I don't care. I ain't no goddamn [ __ ] out of here. Stop doing that [ __ ] No, you causing a

lot of havoc up here. We're going to take you to the office. Stop. He is the office. Okay. No, he ain't no [ __ ] office.

Not my office. Some of that Donald Trump [ __ ] man. My mother almost killed me. Sent me a long text. I'm like, "This

[ __ ] mark." Cuz he did that [ __ ] They pointed out that point he did. I'm like, "I wasn't doing you scratching your

nose." But the people did that. They read too much into stuff. Hold up. I said I know you point over

here in this direction. You got doing [ __ ] like this. I don't. But I don't want the elbow.

Yeah, but it's getting nasty and then and you know like it's so nasty with that DC [ __ ] that on

the White House actual Twitter page they got these [ __ ] excuse me they have these people mug shots

the people I'm worried about mug shots for what what did they do that they pick up

that they pick up in DC one person failure to appear for trial on an assault offense

can you imagine the white house doing that on the white of course they're all black possession of firearm another

black person. I just noticed you did something. You you you going to try to stop using that word or something cuz you just

No, I didn't want to call them [ __ ] Oh, got I just I'm never going to stop using an N word. That's not going to

happen. I wasn't calling them. You think they're just running a play action to divert attention from [ __ ] dad [ __ ] and all that other [ __ ]

You got to find a diversion something or unauthorized use of a vehicle. That's crazy. That's that's that's crazy. And I know

you were joking Ammani, but we don't want to send the National Guard nowhere to come. No, I'm talking [ __ ] Yeah, I know. I know. But again, I just

I want I know you're joking, but DC's filed a lawsuit against it, right? And the problem with DC is because it's not a state. It's under

federal it has federal oversight. So stuff becomes federal crimes when they don't have to. If it were in New York or wherever, like ever y'all want to clean up crime,

send jobs, send food, send shelter, that's how you that's how you clean up options, send alternatives, and then

you'll you get a lot less crime. He he mentioned Baltimore, and I want to shout out the mayor of Baltimore again,

who is out there kicking ass. He is down. Crime is down. Yeah. And And down.

Is the crime really bad in DC? It's not. No. That's what's crazy. No, it's not.

Yo, DC used to be horrendous. I remember back in the day. DC was bad bad, bro. Like

way back when was down there. That [ __ ] That's why they chased him out of DC.

That [ __ ] used to be bad. Bad, bro. It's night and day. He was tied up in the basement and I've never had no issues when I was out

there. Yeah. [ __ ] is night and day, bro. It's not that. You know, you be good. Yeah, you know complexion for the

protection shell flow. But uh no, I I just think it's whack. I think it's a diversion and I I don't think I think

it's going to get worse way before it gets better. Okay. Well, thoughts and prayers.

See in peace. Hey yo. Hey yo, Freeze. Yo, I think Doug was talking to you.

Doug put out a tweet and says, "You [ __ ] rat representer, shut up."

Oh [ __ ] You think you He was definitely talking to you. Yo, of all the people, you a rap represent?

I I didn't think so. Why was he talking to me? I mean, because you're strong defense of Gunonna and how

unbothered he is because he's he's succeeding. You were the only one that talked about

Gunonna and took the stance you took that was on the internet as of recent, you know. Oh, damn. Hey, Thug. Um,

yeah, I meant all that. Oh, [ __ ] Um, yeah. everything I said. I

mean, you can call me a rap represent, but I am listening to some good music and you are not putting out good music. So, hey, what do we do? This is rap.

Rap. If you don't want to rap, that's fine. But we're going to me, not them. Yeah. Me Ice for yourself officially. Ice

and only Ice. And only Ice. I like Young Thug. I like Thug, too.

I would love to hear I would love to. Okay. Well, then Yeah, it's over. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah. Gunonna has been delivering great music

since he came home. I am appreciative of that. I am a fan of hip hop. I spend my money on this. I went to Gunter shows. I

bought Gunonna merch. I wish I would have saw that tweet before I came in here. I'd be sitting here with my gunner

shirt on right now. I don't put

in what is she don't agree.

She tried to walk. Wake it up now. No, I don't really I don't really agree

with that. I don't think you said anything wrong. I don't either. But I mean, if the shoe

fits, you know how people get. He might not have been talking to me, but Flip said he was, so he was.

I'm just a girl though, you know? So like I don't have a dog in the rain. You don't agree. I don't really even understand. Like

you got principles and morals, right? Yeah. So I I don't That's what I'm saying. I I don't I don't agree with that. I'm looking forward to the music.

Me, too. I have been looking forward to Young Thug music for a minute now. But not more, right? But not more. Right. I'm still looking forward to it. I don't

give a [ __ ] about that. If it's good, it's good. You gonna go to Young Thug show? I haven't went to a Young Thug show. Young Yeah, I'll go to a Young Thug

show. I would. Me, too. Has Young Thug ever headlined a tour? Oh [ __ ] Oh [ __ ]

I'm just curious. Wake it up. Has he? I don't know. That would normally be a you question.

Well, that's Listen. Listen. This is all cuz I would have went. I would have went. Some of us up here like Thug a lot like

you do and some of us up here just respects his music and respects his opinion on how he feels within his camp.

All of that's fine. Yeah, he can feel. Again, I'm just speaking as a fan. I don't know Thug. I don't know

Gunner. I know the people that I know in Atlanta. I'm just speaking as a fan. And

it seemed, like I said, everybody that has a problem with Gunner, who are

rappers, have been putting out mid since Gunar came home.

That's a fact. We might be putting bad smoke on them. Doug might have not been talking. Doug ain't really put out nothing.

Yeah, Doug. He's been on some ver No, no, he got a couple feature verses out there.

I didn't hear that one. I didn't hear I didn't hear the chance yet. And if it is fire, I will admit it. Again, I'm not a hater,

right? But what I said, Gunner has one of one album. Uh

what's what's the newest album? The newest album is called The Last One. Say all the songs sound alike. They've been saying that about them for

a long time. They were actually playing that that clip you're talking about where they say all the songs sound alike. They were playing clips from the

other albums with this one back and forth. Like it was a song here, song here, song here, and it's like the same

tempo going through. But if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And it's working. Okay. All right. All right.

Freeze. cuz you put uh jeweler's discount questions on the board. Oh yeah, thug. Oh man. So there was um

Speaking of Thug, well it wasn't just Thug. So there was there was a jeweler, the first video went uh viral. It was the jeweler and

lotto. And he said, you know, she was uh purchasing some jewelry. And he said, "I'll give you a discount if you can

answer this riddle." Said the 45th and the 47th president of the United States have the same parents. How is that

possible? Is that a riddle, though? It's not really much of a riddle. It's not a riddle at all. It's It's literally

just a [ __ ] It's Does everybody feel comfortable here? Yeah. It's not even a stable fact. It's just a

regular fact. But it might be a riddle for some [ __ ] for the little little spit

spit. Spit it.

That [ __ ] is the Pythagorean theorem. I don't know what you talking about cuz

guess what? So what was the answer? So So she she she couldn't answer it. Um, she didn't even give a like a she just

couldn't no answer like not even a wrong one. I think one she said was are are they brothers or something like that siblings

and then the guy said no so she couldn't answer. There's so much wrong with this. The internet tore her up.

Yeah. So then same jeweler was there with Young Thug. He asked Young Thug

Oh, same question. And Thug was trying to talk his way through trying to figure out like he's like it don't make sense. It don't make

sense. How? What do you mean? He's like, "The 45th and the 47th president have the same parents."

Are you googling it right now? No, no, no.

This guy about to tell you I was about to tell

No, I was about to say, "Yo, the chicken tenders and the chicken nuggets." I got I got caught with a question like

this in the same a kid named Dre TV caught me with a question. He said that your uncle's your uncle's sister who is

not your aunt, who is she? And I got stuck. It's tricky.

How? I'm joking. No, I was stuck because and I was like, but I got

Did you get it right? No. Chicky

no. But but he asked me a question and you know what it is, right? How did your mom feel about that? Yeah. Word.

Word. What she said? You didn't know. Mel didn't know. How the [ __ ] didn't I know it was your mother? Whoa.

Whoa. You talking about his mom? It's so simple. She's not your aunt. She's your

Okay, there's another one. 2 + 2 * 2 is what? Uhuh.

I'm not a math genius. Sorry, I'm out. Wait, wait, wait. 2+ 2 * 2 is what?

No, it's the math genius part that was throwing me off. I'm not. Okay. I think I seen that one and people were

saying six. Six. Six. Please excuse my aunt, my dead. That's

what I say. You do the I say please order operations. You do the order of operations. You do the multiplication

first exponents. This is American math. Okay. No, math is universal.

Math is universal. We got a quick word. This is American math.

2 plus 2 is the same in Canada. 2 * 2 is 17 in Canada.

What's the chicken nugget in Canada? She didn't know that. French baguette.

Nougat Net just I got to stop that though. That's That's flip. You just ate 30 chicken

nuggets. No, but there's some kids that I ordered 30. We went over there was too

loud. But people People talk like that. You got to stop that. It's true. Stop what? Stop that voice.

What I said? Like you're talking like you can't really pronounce the word. Shaky. Shy. Shaky. Shaky.

Yo, if Johnny had five apples. Chicken nuggets are good.

You ain't see the Hey yo, dog. You ain't see the meme. You a trying to dignify it with I order every week.

You would like to get some money. So, so, so go back. So, Thug Thug and L

failed. Yeah. Uh Thug said they were the bushes. Damn. That was his answer. The guy was like,

"No, not that." And then when they explained it, Donald would be caught off guard. Yo, you know they ain't thinking. Okay. Well, hold on one second here. We

all Hold on. Third defense. He was like, "Oh, yeah. I know that. I just wasn't keeping track of the numbers of the I

didn't know like he's number 4." But the bushes wouldn't have been the right answer. The bushes make sense.

But I can understand the Wait, you said the Bushes doesn't make it wouldn't be the right answer. No, because George Herbert Walker Bush

is No, no, wait, wait. Stop. No, no, no. Paul said something. I was trying to

catch parks or something cuz the parks and the bush made sense. You said it did not make sense. No, he said the bushes don't make sense.

Oh, did I hear you? Cuz father and son. Yeah, I know. I'm I'm familiar.

I thought you said cuz I thought he said you thought he said the opposite. He was going to bus boy, bro.

And the dad might have worked in a fight. I said the Bush's father worked in. Yo,

everybody just calm down. I'll be ready to shoot my hand. Yeah. What's wrong with you? Should we be together next weekend?

In more serious news, guys. What is again? Who ate all the [ __ ] Thank you, man. Wait.

Oh, I'm sorry. It's It's been brought to our attention that the [ __ ] has been eaten up. Walka walka.

What is it? Crunchy munch right there. Am I Can you Can you tell me what this means?

No, I cannot. Come on. Break it down, man. You eating all the [ __ ] You're the munch. Willow Smith posted on

Instagram the other day, "Who ate all the [ __ ] with a selfie of her crying?" Just look at his face real quick. He got that face, too.

He got the munch face. Look at his he

got quiet though. [ __ ] is a [ __ ] Pokemon.

Licky tongue alone. Who are you talking about? Lick a two at once.

Yeah. Yeah. He can eat five at once. That's his name. Oh man.

Uh Willow Smith. Yeah. Willow Smith uh had a had a had a question. Hey yo, dope. So, she posted cuz I don't

I don't know the story at all. She posted she can't find no [ __ ] one time. One time with a picture of herself crying

crying. Okay. Is she saying she can't find no [ __ ] Like I'm confused. I didn't even know she'd

Oh, now we knew the whole family just said

she what? Ma'am, I didn't know she had made any level of declaration as to what

Oh, sometimes you don't have to really I guess I just haven't seen anybody with her either. Yeah, she's a sniper.

Huh? Take your little ass back to LA. She can't go back. Go back. Why can't you go back?

She whip your head back. I'm not sure if this was a reference. There was a Zack Galanaka stand up where he did a who ate all the [ __ ] joke and

I think it was Nam Chomsky was the answer or something like that, which is a great [ __ ] It was a hilarious bit. So, I'm not sure

if she was referencing that, but I sent you a clip. She said she obviously she said she was joking. I

mean, people don't know how to take a joke. Do we want to hear her? I mean, yeah, please. And y'all forgot funny

existing. She's kind of right. She's making me y'all [ __ ] like

molasses. I should have said [ __ ] right

sweet though. Be sweet too. Yeah. But it was I didn't need to.

Okay. Yeah. It goes back to the thing about Oh, go ahead. It goes back to the question Joe said on the last part. I don't know if we

answered it, but what do you say about watching kids grow up to see who they become? Remember that

question? We never was more like uh Thank you, man. Was it to to see like the to see how

they've been raised like the effect like the effects of how who raised them? Yeah. Like seeing them as they grow up.

This fall right there, this fall right there, her brother, you saw they had a shout out to that's the homie. But you saw he

was out. He was outside. Jaden's your homie. No, I just he just lied. Damn, you exposed enough problems.

Listen, she was like on your dick a little bit about that. She was excited for you to be friends with Jaden Smith.

Nah, she was impressed. Yeah. No, I would have been. That's a different type of friend.

That's the next level. That's the next level. Listen, that's like Kat level. Oh [ __ ] Oh [ __ ] See

that's level [ __ ] [ __ ] see now playing with you my K my homie. Shout him out.

Kai's my homie. So is Juski, right? Um I'm not Associates. Yeah, I know who you are.

Of course. I don't know. Duski DM'd him in 2011. He know he dubbed him. He said you're not

wor. Yeah, that was that was bad. But I I don't want to talk about Listen,

because it's a lesson learned. It's it's a lesson learned. Yeah. And I I don't make U-turns. Um,

you should I mean, we can hop behind the Kink.

Last time, last time we talked about, shout out to Drew. I think I'm I'm a fan. I think Last time we talked about that up here,

people were agreeing with you. I think you said that or somebody said up here that it's okay to go back even if you

shun somebody. I'm saying it's embarrassing. If I shun somebody, I don't think that I'll feel embarrassed

to later go back to them and try to work with them. But if he came up to you, you say, "Yes, sir." Maybe

I don't know. I'm just saying likely what you need. In my in my mind, I'mma think that he's

always going to remember that and he's going to try to embarrass. He might not. Well, one thing you could do in all is just apologize if you did something

wrong. He might not even be on that. He like, "Yo, come on, little man. I remember. I got you. Let me hold my hold my boom

mic." Oh [ __ ] His arms are not long enough.

Oh [ __ ] You the new JR. You the new JR.

Oh [ __ ] You're Junior. Oh my god. That was foul.

You want to pass off the foul? That was a foul thing to say. Well, all right. We got a serious piece

of business to cover, though. Um I I think a lot of times in America like lies get told.

Okay. And um we have a duty as journalists. We never figured out who ate all the [ __ ]

We'll get back to this. The person I'm about to bring up is not the answer. Just Smlette. Damn. No, he didn't eat the puss.

Jesse Smlette is releasing his Netflix documentary on what happened.

Oh, he's producing this doc. I don't know if he's producing it, but he's he's certainly promoting it and saying that this is the one where he

tells the tr he tells the whole story about what happened. Um, so I hired the [ __ ]

and I think it's important in a country that often buries lies to have the truth finally told. So I'm and and I'm I'm

happy to see this document. That was your too, right? Uh, yeah, we're we're cool. Let me ask you a question. You're cool with the Smilelets.

You don't think was already told? No, I don't. So you think there's a possibility that

he wasn't lying? No, I don't. Okay.

Oh, so it's like there's a truth. What was it? There's three sides to the truth and the truth. Your side, my side, and the truth.

Oh, no. He's not producing it. It's the same producers that made the Tinder Swindler and Don't [ __ ] with Cats.

Oh, I love them. They're good. Hold on. Yo, listen to these [ __ ] Yo, Tindler

Swindler. Yeah, don't [ __ ] with that [ __ ] But but but Jesse has said that, you

know, he more of his story is told on this uh I think version.

Yeah. Here's here's the thing. I personally never cared whether he was telling the truth or not because I mean

that wasn't the interesting part of the story to in terms of his incarceration. So what's the interesting part?

Um sort of what would make somebody make these choices like did the the documentary the stuff that makes a doc interesting like

like what was going on in his brain to make the choices he made? what was going on in the police departments to my subway to say the top going to subway go

to subway at 4 am in Chicago in the winter is why also what was going on kind of like you

know in the environment like socially what was happening exactly to to say that MAGA people

attacked him for the police to to spend this much time and energy locking somebody up for false for false uh what

was it filing a false police police report which lots of people do and very few people

get prosecuted for. So for me, the story is interesting. I never cared so much about whether he was innocent or guilty.

Not because I believe him or don't believe him, just cuz to me, like I just don't care that much about that part. I think people are right to care about it.

I just don't care that much about it. You know what I mean? Yeah. This is and we never found out why he lied.

Well, this is and let's remember his conviction was overturned. Okay. What were we going to say, Freeze?

Um the His conviction was overturned. [ __ ] we know you cool with Yeah, we not

I'm just telling you his conviction was over. I'm just putting all the facts out. The Netflix Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead.

The Netflix tagline says, "This is a shocking true story of an allegedly fake story that some now might just be a true

story that somehow might just be a true story." Featuring interviews with police,

lawyers, journalists, investigators who claim to have uncovered new evidence about the case. Juicy Smoo. Hold on, let me finish. And with uh

Jesse himself, this compelling documentary invites the audience to decide for themselves who is telling the truth about Jesse Smoo.

Oh, so they're not going to give us the answer? No, no. They want you to come watch. They want us to watch you going to be on their line again.

No, but even in docs sometimes they don't give you the answer at the end of it. That's the most annoying [ __ ] in the world, right? Did he end up telling you the truth,

Mark? Did he tell you what happened? I did do an interview with Justice Small. One of the two interviews I think that he's done. Um, you can check it out on

my channel. Oh [ __ ] if you subscribe. Yeah, if you subscribe. Um, but um I

mean I've talked to him off the record, on the record. I've talked to him, you know, I have a bigger how off picture of the story. Yeah, cuz we went

to that club in Jersey. If you go to 20, Matter of fact, that's where we was at.

[Music] Yizzy. Did he let Did he let you Did he let you

in? Oh, sir. Y'all both got the glizzies with extra

horse. I'm going to play with you. You let him get away. Get Get his ass.

No, don't get his ass. I don't know. We're so far off the rails here.

This is all I'm saying. I I [ __ ] I think that a There's a bigger story here that we don't know yet.

I don't believe everything that Jesse Smlet said. Like what was on the sandwich?

What's the Who tied the news? I don't know the whole story. All I'm saying is like it ain't just one person

lying here is all I'm saying. There's a lot to the story that's more interesting to me than what happened that night in Chicago.

Please tell me what. Watch the documentary. But cool. Are you in the doc? I am not in the dock. It sounds like they should have had you

do. It sounds like you know what's in the interview for the doc? No, no, no. I have nothing to do with this documentary. I I have just spoken

to Jesse and know more details than what he's told the public. When was the last time you spoke to Jesse? Do you believe

what he told you? What he told me I have I have verified. Again, in like knowing all the

information I know, I don't believe his account of what happened in Chicago is accurate. I don't I'm not Again, I started with that.

All I'm saying is there's more to the story than that. That's all I'm saying. There's more to the story than just that part. And I'm It's like most people just

focus on that [ __ ] lying. I'm saying, "Okay, that's a major part. That's a big part of it." And I'm saying, but once we once we

stipulate that, if if you accept that, if you believe that, then I'm saying that doesn't mean we can't talk about this other [ __ ] too. And that's all I'm

saying is the documentary gets at the other [ __ ] too. All right. But just so I'm clear, you do believe that [ __ ] was lying.

I don't believe I don't believe his account was accurate. No. Mark, when's the When's the last time you spoke to him?

Uh, tomorrow. It was a whole ride for sure. Maybe a

year now. It's been like a year. It's been a minute. Who sunk change going? We we we've we've DM'd and stuff since then. Sam,

don't tell me it's another Sam Cook story. It's not another Sam Cook story. Oh, they killed Sam.

No. Rest in peace. But what I'm saying is that don't tell me he was somewhere into some things and then they got No, no, no, no, no. I don't know

anything about anything like that. All I'm saying is is that this story is to me is an interesting story. My question

is cuz that's the only way to me. Is there I feel you. it. Let's say he's lying for a second. Let's just assume

he's lying. We don't He lying. Yeah, we assume that. At this point, At this point, do you just I mean, can Could he uh make a

U-turn? Could he say, "You know what? K. I think you should make the K turn. You don't You don't You don't ride it out. You don't ride it out." Like, "Fuck

it. I'm I'm in too deep to do that." Ride it out. But don't do all this if you going to ride it out.

Or if you going to come clean at the end, shut your ass up, accept your fate, come back, put your head down, do the

hard work, put out an album cuz he just got signed. They said he got signed to uh Dallas Austin's label. So [ __ ] come

out, put your project out. See, money even he got signed. Oh [ __ ] Oh [ __ ]

Damn. Yo. [Laughter]

Oh [ __ ] Yo, stop me. Stop. Give me. No. Yo, fam. We going to go to

That was for the first one. We going to go to Home Depot. We going to get a rope. Oh my god. Subway.

Two lightkinned men. Go to Jersey. Blimpies. Go to Blimpy though. Blimpy.

Yeah. Get that blimpy. It's believable. If you if he was saying Blimpy, I got to believe him. That's crazy, dog. Come on, my [ __ ] Come on. I

Mark, you know D. Yo, fam, put your head down. You you you had a decent career bubbling. That was And

you think you can sing better than Jesse? Uh, yeah. No, he can't. All right. All right. I just wanted to get it on recording.

All right. Hey, I think every time I heard you sing on the internet, you've always had you had you cheated a little bit. Like you had Donnie Hathaway singing with you.

So you were kind of like the backup singer. Nobody can sing. No, he's a great singer. I told you that off off camera. No, no, no. All jokes.

He did. No, you you did have a good [ __ ] How do you have this many things to

throw over there? What are you doing over there? Class.

And I brought I brought you a ball back. Yo. Oh [ __ ] Your family over there with

this my [ __ ] No. Flip. Please explain why you got a globe over there. I don't they

yellow. It's not funny. Y'all donated to the wrong people. Y'all better donate to the to the cause.

You're right. Stop that [ __ ] Enough. Why was the W

Mommy? What? We at the same time,

man. Jesse similar is on some [ __ ] I'm not sitting here listening to He was wrong though by the system. Both

things can be true. I'm not

Let me ask you a question. Hold on, hold on, hold on. If he ain't lying, did the system get a chance to wrong him? If he

didn't go make up this big ass thing that could have potentially sent some innocent [ __ ] to jail,

the system would have never had an opportunity to wrong him. Get the [ __ ] out of here. That's not my point. So So if they give

him electric chair, it would have been okay because he lied. Nobody said that at all. So I said I remember I started with

the the the lie part and I'm saying in addition you can't as a system we can't

leave the system off the hook because personally I'm less interested in in the Jesse story. But I think people have a

right to be outraged. As I said, people have a right to be outraged by it. What I'm saying though is they made a deal with him

and then after they made the deal in exchange for community service, they then prosecuted him again. You can't get

prosecuted twice. Can't. So, which is why they overturned his conviction. Same thing with Bill Cosby. Bill Cosby is guilty as sin,

but they made a they made a deal with him, right? They made a and then he plead guilty and they charged him

anyway. All I'm saying is the system has to play fair. So, I'm I'm agreeing. Yeah. So I have I have I have no

disagreement with you. Justice. I don't feel no sympathy for him. I'm not asking you to. Okay. As I said, I remember I said people have a right to

feel however they feel about justice. Like yo dog, let me tell you something, bro. Again, just just imagine if they would have locked somebody up. Let's

just say those two Africans. No. Or anybody that he cuz he was saying some MAGA people did some other [ __ ]

Any innocent person that could have potentially went to jail. Let's just say hypothetically a father went to jail. Some poor innocent Republican. I was

about to say some some guys wear mega hats at 4 a.m. They probably didn't. Chester and them with two teeth went to jail.

Chester got kids. That's racist. That's crazy. Chester got kids, my [ __ ] And Chester goes to jail. That's some

[ __ ] up [ __ ] And he made up a story. It's no different than what the white people used to be doing to us back in

the day, making up fake stories, [ __ ] like that. He might compare something else. It's a little different. He might

say MT got lied on. Bunch, man. What I'm saying is did get lied on. I know, but you might use that as an example. I'm just saying.

No, no, no. I'm saying like there's degrees to it, but I still think that all of it is [ __ ] up. I don't care if somebody got charged and they got

community service. They didn't go to jail. They still were falsely charged based off a lie that he made up. Get the [ __ ] out.

We're not disagreeing on anything. Let's move on. I I agree with everything you just said. I'm going to watch this doc though. The doc is worth watching.

Thank you. There be some [ __ ] in there. Boy, Netflix got a Charlie Sheen doc coming

too. Watch that too. That tiger blood [ __ ]

Yeah, that's a story. Charlie Sheen is one of them guys crazy little story that I'm fascinated by. Again, like Jesse Smile, I want to know what goes on

in his brain. Well, I mean, there was a lot of like, you know, chemistry alteration by all the [ __ ] drugs.

Yeah. Everything, right? But how do we how do we feel about allowing these people to also benefit? Like, cuz

financially, they they're going to be well off of doing these docks. And Charlie Sheen's story ain't the cleanest. Like, how much money you think they're really

making off these docs? Make a whole lot of money off these docks. I I mean, I think any I don't think Charlie Sheen is going to

consent to a dock without some money. Yeah. I'm not saying that's not getting some money, but like how much money

Charlie Sheen, my [ __ ] He ain't no Charlie Sheen ain't walking to the table and getting no [ __ ] you know. Wait, but is he actually a part?

He's in it. He's in the dock. Yeah, but I guess what I'm saying is if he's not producing it and he's not getting like real money off of it,

right? And I don't know his financial situation. I can't imagine he's the

$10 million to do the dock. That's what I'm saying. Like Charlie Sheen got Charlie Sheen money and I'm just saying because they can't afford that. Yeah,

that doc. Yeah. So, to me, Charlie Sheen is like they don't make a lot don't generate a lot of money. Docs don't make a lot of money and and

and people in docs don't usually get paid anything. So, I I think sometimes these people who just want to get their [ __ ] out. Now, I'm not saying he's not

making any money off of it. But Charlie Sheen don't need the money and he ain't doing it for the money. I think it would be similar to Justice cuz I have a

story. I I have a story that I want the world to to to hear. I want to reframe how the public sees me because right now

Charlie Sheen is seen as a monster to to a lot of people or a crash out or a headcase. All the above. And I'm saying

like he might want to tell a different story about himself just out of ego. You know what I'm saying? But all these I love all these doc I love all these

docs. Is there is there a doc y'all would want to see somebody make? Or rather is there a doc about who like

about whom would you want to see a doc like this? Oh I watch any docs. So it's a long list for me. Got you.

I would I would love to at some point have seen that Prince doc. M if that would have been released, I

would have sat there and not blinked the eye. That's that's that's that would have been the one. That's a good one. I feel the same way

about Michael Jackson doc. Like a real Michael Jackson doc. Not like funded by Michael Jackson, not funded by his

enemies, but like a real Yeah, like a real independent like impartial

you. Go ahead. You think there's an Am I joke coming? No, a Mike joke coming. No. No. No, no, but I think the it would

be hard to do that because to get Mike's okay and get real hard.

No, no, you mean like or information like where he was okay with getting, you

know what I mean? Your man, your man that did the documentary about Malcolm X, he was independent, right? Oh, Abd Rahman Muhammad. Yeah,

that [ __ ] was fire. That's one of the best documentary. One of the best killed Malcolm X. Yeah, I loved it. New York and um you

you close. They come right

to them 10 minutes, one block. They got to stay on one street. They ain't got to turn. They don't got to turn. Straight up.

Facts are facts. Yo, there's a story that came out the last couple days. This is sparking a little bit of a gender war.

Our favorite. Oh, I thought we was going to get through a power without a gender war. We don't got to We don't got to do a gender war. We could just talk about it,

do we? We're responsible people. We're mature and we're thoughtful. Shakari. Oh,

Richardson. We touched on it. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we talked about it. Now, when she got arrested, we talked about it. Yeah. Now, now the video of her actually

being arrested. Um, is there any new information from that video? Does it change how y'all see this?

Anything? I I mean, I I was already like, I ain't want to put

your hands on nobody [ __ ] So, she told them nothing happened. Um, it

was just ver uh just verbal. She told the police nothing happened. It's just verbal. you know, me and him, blah, blah, blah.

They got the files. Yeah. They said, she even told him, "Y'all can look at the tape. It's But they look, they did what they did." What

I don't like is she said, "Why am I getting arrested and he's the man here?"

That's crazy. That's where my problem came right there. I stopped dating her. I would never speak to her again ever

because of that part. Yes. Yes. I It was another thing, too, cuz she was looking at him like, "Really? Really, Christian? Really?"

Like getting mad at him. is like, "Fam, you getting arrested based on you." You I didn't do anything.

He tried everything. He was Yo, bro. He tried everything he could to not

remotely get misconstrued any pu. He didn't push back. He didn't nudge. He didn't do

anything. You don't think there's something a little kind? I mean, let's just say there's nothing he could have done. The cops made up their mind. We're

arresting her. Blah blah blah. Mhm. You you you can just sit there and just say nothing while your girl getting

arrested at least no level of like come on like please like nothing like you just No.

But they showed parts where he was like yo dog I'm not pressing charges. I'm not doing none of that. My thing is this. Do

we compound the problem by now allowing them to jump on him? They not going to treat him like they

treating her. Hey did my girl just get done beating my ass? Cuz in that case I'm like

her lesson. Yo, Friday. Sit down for a little bit.

I feel like, you know, when she spoke, it was already like a volatile situation and you say things when you're upset and

the threat of being arrested and whatnot. Since then, she has apologized for everything. She's apologized for her

behavior. Are you talking about the video or the post? H Yeah. What you say? What you say in the heat of the moment now, bro?

She did a a video apology addressing everything, which I she was kind of smirking in that.

Takes the sincerity out for me. If you sitting here apologizing and accepting accountability, I don't want to see this

family. I call it like I see it. Y'all know that. I call it like it is. And yes, y'all know I ride for her.

Yeah, you do. But even in the apology, you smirking, which now when you doing that, the

sincerity is like, no, fam, it was if you watch it, you can see she's she's damn near smiling. Gotcha.

You don't think you don't think that the smiling was due to, you know, a sense of like embarrassment and her not really

knowing how to react to it and it's just awkwardness? If it was, I would accept that if it was a role, if

it was because guess what? If that shoe was on the other foot and he was sitting there smiling, you would not come in here and

say, "Well, maybe he was a little embarrassed and he felt a little awkward with the camera." You'll be like, "He threw that she threw the boy into a

pole." Like, if it were live if it were live, I'd say, "Fine, she's smart." I mean, just make another video. Like, if if if you

look back at that and you see yourself smirking, make another video, right? Like, where you don't like where it doesn't look like you're smirking. I I

thought I had a little bit of a different take than y'all on this, you'll be shocked to know. Um,

I I think one, I didn't think she should be arrested. You don't think anybody should be arrested, though?

No, no, but even in the Fair, that's a fair point. But I'm saying even in the context of the current laws and rules,

I You don't think she broke the law? Did you see it? I saw the description of it. And when you all you all reenacted it for me

outside on the back. Oh, you didn't see the actual video? I read the I read the news reports and I read the police report

and so I read all the things that she did. Mhm. So, you know, to you that's not enough to be arrested,

but it's contextual cuz you got to see it. I'm I I stand down. So, if if what I'm

saying is nullified by what you saw in the video, then I I I'll concede cuz I didn't see the video. I only read the police report. Okay. But the way you read it,

it sounded like some [ __ ] where if I were a police officer, I would be like, "Yo, y'all need to go your separate ways. Go home." I just don't let

That's all I'm saying. Had it been flipped, you think it's the same thing applies there. Police officer

says, "Okay, it's enough here. It wasn't enough. Don't arrest nobody. Y'all just go your ways and go home?" The short answer is yes.

Absolutely. Let's just Let's just Let's just do this. Let's offer you a view at this moment. Sure. It was one of them pushes. It was two of

the pushes that were really hard. Like one of them she threw him up against a pole, bro. that

one of the one of the pushes she kind of threw him up against a pole a little bit full force both arms full force and he hit the thing like on

some I thought he would have bounced back and bounced back she struggled that was the one that I was like okay

now she's overdoing it her nudging them with her shoulder and all that was something different and my thing is this

if we going to go by fairness if he would have threw her into that poll like that everybody and they mother everybody

and they mother would say he should go to jail but you see it now okay I've now seen it yeah no I don't think anybody Nobody should go to jail

for that. Oh, male in. Yeah, this this is what I'm saying and and just take take believe it.

I'm calling cat. I mean then then there's no point having a discussion I listen it's an unfair

question. If you say well if I say no then you say aha you have a double stand. If I say yes, you say I don't believe you. So I mean I can't

but what I would say is in general um I I don't necessarily accept the

premise that we have to always reverse things because I think size strength all those things matter you know what I mean

physicality and that's not necessarily gendered but it typically becomes gendered in other words if my girlfriend were 300 lb and 6'4

you know what I mean then then yeah I I I think her push is different than my push. So, so for me it's about it's

about the it was about the harm that was caused. But in this case, I think what she did was bad. I think what she did

was unacceptable. I think she should be held accountable for that. And if I were him, I wouldn't [ __ ] with her anymore

either. I think we have to say that nobody should put their hands on anybody. Gender,

regardless of gender, nobody should put their hands on anybody. All I'm saying is as a as a police officer, if I saw

that exchange, and I've done that on the street where I've broken up potential domestic violence and Superman,

no, I mean, I just I wasn't going to let some dude beat some girl ass in front of you. There's two things in that. Hold on.

Let me finish the thought. Let me finish the thought. As a police officer, I didn't think that

that what I saw right there amounted to an assault. And so, I would have sent them home. And if it was the other way

around, I would have done the same thing. That's all I'm saying. You think the airport plays a part in that? For sure. You get what I'm saying? Like

now this this ain't just on the street. That's fair. So in the airport, yeah, we're going to treat this a certain way. No, never mind that. I still understand

the mindset of somebody that feels that comfortable to act like that in the airport. Imagine what you would do in private.

Exactly. Yeah. So I can't I can't police you based on what what I saying if you're thinking if you're thinking as a as a officer or anything

and you want to prevent something happening in the future, you have to sometimes think. But that's not your job to prevent inc.

So that's like me saying, "Well, I saw you stealing candy bar. You probably rob a bank later." So I got, you know, I mean, like I So I see you physically assault someone

even to a minor degree. It's not my job to make sure that it doesn't proceed. I would intervene, but I don't think I

would arrest him for assault. But we can't pick and choose when you doing your job. It's at your discretion then.

No, you absolutely can pick and choose because now I got to follow the letter of the law. We have you on cameras in this big ass airport and you are

assaulting somebody. So my job is to book them, Dano. Yeah. Or we can have discretion,

right? All right. And what I'm saying is discretion is picking and choosing. And people always say you can't pick and choose. I'm saying you absolutely have to pick and choose. We always have to

use our judgment based on context. If if I if I pull you I'm sure as a young boy you got pulled over or stopped by the

police and frisk. If you had a small joint in your pocket, they don't have to lock you up for possession. And and

police officers make those choices all the time. And that's all I'm saying. Technically, did she break the law? Yes. But I'm saying male or female, I would

not have interviewed that woman and locked somebody. You know Mark, you know how many times you know how many times things like that have happened where

people use their discretion to say you know what everybody call

it was just that documentary about the the the creator girl that the boyfriend they they pulled in Utah. I was going to

say that and you know what the police locking you up for those five minutes. No

doesn't stop that [ __ ] from happening. No, the police didn't lock them up but the police sent them separate places and then she end up going to the hotel where

the guy was at when she was told not to. No, what I'm saying is Immani is saying if the police he's saying he's arguing locking them up as a as a way to stop a

bad outcome. I'm saying 90% of the time when you lock people up for that [ __ ] they go back to each other.

True. Again, I'm not saying we shouldn't stop domestic violence. I'm just saying this particular case wouldn't be something

that I would want to intervene the police in. And and I would I would argue that 90% of dudes 99% of dudes, if you

were walking down the street and your girl did that [ __ ] to you, you would not want the police to come in and lock her up for that [ __ ] I wouldn't. He didn't want to lock them. He didn't

want That's what I'm saying. So, I don't know why I wouldn't sit here now and say ask for something different for her than I would want for myself.

And maybe that's the problem. But if the police pulled over and saw it, they're going to act. But that's not fair though cuz we also

speak to the mindset of men just allowing certain things to take place. That's not normal. That's not normal

that she shouldn't feel that comfortable, especially in public doing something like that to

not [ __ ] with her ever again. Again, I'm saying nobody should put their hands on anybody. And if you don't feel cuz at

once they put them cuffs on her. Yeah. It was a whole different tone and she was a canary at that point. She was a

little different. She was way you know what I'm saying? So Oh, hell yeah. That shit's scary. All right, cool. So that now this is your lesson to learn. So the fact that

you got arrested and you know that this is a possible consequence. You might calm down a

little bit. You might need that piece before we close out on it and and that was y'all said that y'all didn't like

the fact that she said why you arrested me and he's the man. the man in this situation. Uhhuh. I heard that differently, too.

I didn't hear y'all heard it like you should be arresting him. No, that's not how I heard it. Okay. I just heard there's a man here. I

shouldn't be arrest be getting arrested either. Even if it's nobody, if somebody's going to be arrested,

you got a man right there. I should not get arrested. That's the way I heard it. Not saying, "Yo, y'all go get him." But

okay, there's a man in y'all coming. Really, Christian? Really? Really, Christian? like she's getting locked up

looking at him like, "Yo, that sounds like this has happened before. This is how I this is how I interact with you and you've been the

guy to walk away and we're going to create this pattern that's going to continue until one of us end up really in jail for some stupid shit."

I'm interested. So, real quick, last question on this. Would any of y'all stay with this person

after could you could you imagine staying with a person after an interaction like this? No. Not at this stage in life.

No. Not back in. I I know you so well. I know that face.

like today. Absolutely not. It's like if she hit me with the ham, I just might stay two more weeks. Yo, listen to this. Is that Is that

right? I ain't got no time to listen. Listen to this. At their age, I was staying with that

girl. I believe her. We was going to have some fun when we got home.

But look, we grew up in different times. That's true, too. We grew up in different times. The fact that she looked at the cops and said,

"Yo, why am I being arrested when he's the man in this situation?" That's a red flag. [ __ ] a red flag. That

is deep, bro. We are minimalizing that. That is not somebody, too. I got [ __ ] to lose. I'm

going to search you up right now. Get the [ __ ] out of here. No, you got big, bro. You have to go. You know, you know how wacky your brain

got to be in that moment to where you're doing that in the airport. I'm way like

never mind just you in a hotel lobby. You're in the And you're metal women star that just

got in trouble for smoking weed a couple years ago and got disqualified. So your your perception ain't the greatest.

She got to be held accountable for just never mind just the action of the the abuse cuz at that it's abuse. I don't

[ __ ] with nobody. Of course it's abuse. Just the thought process that you have as a star at this point. Somebody that's

Come on. You can't do that. No. We need to hold her accountable. Yo, get your [ __ ] together. Whatever y'all

need to separate, separate. But you

can't feel that comfortable to just go out here and to be touching on anybody like that. Let your Let alone your boyfriend. Sounds like she needs some

support. It sounds like she needs some help. If they in a house by themselves, I see her smacking the [ __ ] out of him.

100%. Oh, boy. I see her smacking the [ __ ] out of him. When that's happened to you, how have you responded?

Um, okay. It depends on I've responded different.

It depends on how good the box was. No, no. It depend on my mood. It depend on um why they hitting you. [ __ ] like

that matters. You know what I'm saying? But I've been assaulted by women before. So So dog, but again, if she would do

that, if she would do that in a public airport, my [ __ ] like doing that in Madison Square Garden. All right, we got it.

That's line right there, baby. All right, we did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We did it. We

did it. We did it. This has been a great conversation, guys. We had some other gender warship. Maybe we should leave that alone.

I think we should put it to sleep. Put it to see what you did there. I see what you

did there. You all right, my guy? You all right? Do we do Are we going to sleepers? Do we have friends of the show?

You didn't get You didn't get the joke. No, you ain't. Yeah, I got it. Put it to sleep. I heard pull out the globe again. You really just destroyed his perfect

[ __ ] [ __ ] Are we doing

No, listen. uh listen

y'all playing with me. Y [ __ ] playing with me. It was a great thing that he did, but I

just thought that we had fun in the show. If we don't, if we don't, then good show, y'all.

Yeah, great show. Excellent show. And great, John, Flip,

we're not being sarcastic. Yeah, you be hosted, man. You mean it. We mean it. You sure? Yes. We love when you're a mic.

We do. You talk a lot when it's time to leave. Shut the [ __ ] up. You sound like you. You do sound like Joe right now.

Thank you, B. You know I like my back. Hey yo, man. We did it, y'all. Thank you for tuning in. Um,

what are you guys doing this weekend? Huh? [ __ ] Hey yo, talk. I know. We We We

about to I'm going to go see Eric. Um, no, not not Eric Badu. Eric Robersonson.

Eric Roberson. Fire. He's performing this weekend. So, me and some of the girls are going to go see

him. How many How many of y'all? Um, five of us, I want to say. And then we're going to go to like I know what

type of speak easy. Yeah. Like watching, you know, watching live music and then enjoying each

other's company at a speak easy. That's a vibe. I think that's

fun, man. I hope yall have fun. What you do this weekend, boy, besides switching out the the seat,

you got to switch it every once in a while. What you doing? Now, this is my this is my last uh weekend with it in. So, I'm Yes, I know. I'll be home. Tell him the

Bible. Tell your sister to call me. Yo, I know she tight. Nah, she good. She She good talking [ __ ] No, I'm I'm I'm be chilling. Be

chilling. Take this weekend easy. You have sex again as soon as it come up? Nah. Oh, good. [ __ ] lying his ass, man.

What about you, bro? What? You going to ask me? You know what I mean? Come on. Yo, go. What you doing this weekend?

Roll him up, right? Put a little T. Come on. Yo, what you what you doing?

Um I ain't doing [ __ ] Uh prepping for next week. A little bit of work [ __ ] Yeah.

Oh yeah, you got to do the [ __ ] in the mirror and what I'm going to say. You wearing a suit at Investfest or you

going to wear this? Strongest receiver. That's right. That's [ __ ] right.

What's up, man? Free. What you doing? Um I'm chilling, man. I'll be in the pool or some [ __ ] I a I ain't got no

plans. I'm getting ready for vacation, man. Okay. You going on vacation? Yeah. Jamaica. Jamaica, right? Okay. Okay. God damn

right. miss all all nasty [ __ ] I got to my wife going to be at time most

weekend, so I'm going to be home doing home [ __ ] Uh cleaning deer [ __ ] out the yard, [ __ ] uh and and potty training

my son. I'm doing a 72-hour method. Starting uh no,

no pampering, nothing. Just nature boy all weekend. Let me know if you need the the nanny.

Oh, I think you say if you need I think you going through the diaper

situation that I know you had some tips. Oh [ __ ]

I'm not doing [ __ ] man. I'm chilling. I'm keeping it light. I'm keeping it light. My he on you just now.

Now you crazy. I got something. I got something. Listen y'all. Thank you for tuning in, man. Remember the baddies are insecure.

The broke women want to travel just as much as we got. I got that. Excuse me. Can we talk? I just You want to do it? Do it.

No, you got to play boy. Pardon me, dude. You started off and I'll jump on your back. Think of what you doing this weekend. What you I'm not doing nothing. I'm just being

I got a bad leg already. You can't jump on me. Hopefully, I said hopefully you enjoyed

the show. Um remember the baddies are insecure. The broke women wants to travel and something else want to happen

stagnant women want to travel. The stagnant women. Remember, keep a [ __ ] like Cory off your lord, please.

Cuz that [ __ ] is coming. Seriously. Hey yo, we appreciate y'all. Seriously, man. Joe, we love you. Shout out to Mama

Faith. Shout out to Papa Joe. Shout out to the whole family. Um, yeah, man. Um, I love you guys. Thank you guys for

allowing me to sit here and lead you guys and trust me to do so. It means a lot. It helps with my confidence. As

they say, I'm insecure. Um, congrats to Ian again. Congratulations.

Remember, rock and roll lives on in all of us. You going to get flee. You going to get flee on your chest next.

Yes. We love y'all.

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