Don't Say George Lucas Again
Joe Budden Podcast Episode 853, “Don't Say George Lucas Again,” released August 21, 2025. Joe returns to set following a trip out of town for his family reunion (22:15) before the room discusses Jurnee Smollett’s ex-husband now asking for half of the actress’s retirement (39:39). The JBP then shares their thoughts on the back and forth between Cam’ron & Omar Gooding (58:26), Joe comments on Cardi B’s new single as the crew then speculates what her first week numbers will look like (1:15:25), Chris Brown’s tour continues (1:28:29), plus Joe’s quick review of ‘WEAPONS’ (1:42:02). Also, Marc Lamont Hill shares the latest on Dr. Umar (2:02:44), Ozempic faces $2 billion in lawsuits (2:22:16), Chris Hansen is set to expose Roblox in a new documentary (2:39:33), Candace Owens is being sued for spreading false information (2:53:29), who’s a billionaire in entertainment (3:08:45), and much more! Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

In this episode
- 22:15Joe returns to set following a trip out of town for his family reunion
- 39:39Before the room discusses Jurnee Smollett’s ex-husband now asking for half of the actress’s retirement
- 58:26The JBP then shares their thoughts on the back and forth between Cam’ron & Omar Gooding
- 1:15:25Joe comments on Cardi B’s new single as the crew then speculates what her first week numbers will look like
- 1:28:29Chris Brown’s tour continues
- 1:42:02Joe’s quick review of ‘WEAPONS’
- 2:02:44Marc Lamont Hill shares the latest on Dr. Umar
- 2:22:16Ozempic faces $2 billion in lawsuits
- 2:39:33Chris Hansen is set to expose Roblox in a new documentary
- 2:53:29Candace Owens is being sued for spreading false information
- 3:08:45Who’s a billionaire in entertainment
Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 853 Transcript
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The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast whose bullets hosts are for entertainment purposes
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only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing,
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indicting or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained
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professionals who do not have your best interest at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.
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Microphone check. What is this
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JB? Back to business
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right now. We should start the show. They look right. That's that UPN North
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diddiness. He rich now. Right. That's that private school that got him
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acting all up like that. Exactly. He call Santa. Big mama said, "Just sit him down here for the summer."
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Talk to her about it. He's weak. Act straight up. Right out. He don't act. He don't act like that
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around. Don't act like that. You serious? Oh, that's that that's you the sucker.
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I was in there. That's the first time cuz they usually act, you sweet water.
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Say he trying to snuck the 85. I thought jump was trying to kill him.
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Are you crazy? That's mad funny to me. I'm sorry, son. I will see if I can find a way to
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discuss this with y'all. Okay. You can't discuss more kids and then you say my kid is a menace. Meanwhile, cuz
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you said muffins and he went crazy. He started knocking this down. When you told him no muffins, he he
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slapped. He started flipping tables. Oh, he's a psychopath. Yo, watch your cup, bro.
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Yeah. And he likes to fight now. Yeah. He love to fight. And want to have kids at O8. I'm about
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to get that and little stocky. Yo, he's stocky. Ain't skinny. Not skinny. A little stocky. You
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in uh CVS the cop. Oh yeah, man. It was got me booked. Man, I
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was in the chiropractor this weekend cuz he [ __ ] my neck up cuz he like to do all that wrestling [ __ ] man. He too strong.
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Yeah. But now Joey sound like you learned a lesson, too. I call sin first.
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Yo, what I'm about to do to him is going to happen. He's going to hear about it.
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It's going to happen actually. And that's the calm version cuz I called and just was talking to him.
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Kill you a little bit. Oh, these kids. Am I kid? God.
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Were you like that? No. I understood when to be bad,
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right? I didn't play with adults in a certain way. Mean my parents beat me though adults.
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Yeah. I was about to say you got you got spankings, right? Mine too. Mine's allowed me to get beat by other people. I don't believe in spanking
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kids. Me either. And that's the problem. They can smell that. I went to therapy and it changed my view on on spankings really. So I don't
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believe in putting my hands on kids. We need kids need. But result.
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Yeah. He's he's he's walking all over me. Oh yeah. My son. He's walking all over me. Yeah. I'm
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and it's levels to spankings. It's you can give a stop. You mean like a light a light spanking
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to let them know? You can give them a tap on these kids got phones and feelings. They will call diest the cops. The ambulance
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to go buy me a wooden spoon. Told my daughter, yo, you almost three. Mr. Spoon is coming.
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Bro, my daughter be she don't really do She be Yo, she be running through my girl like it's crazy. No. Yeah, but I'm
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saying you need a disrespect. You need a disrespect. She'll just take some cucumbers and just smush them and throw them on the floor.
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You like, "Yo, what is Yeah, you whing in the house. What are we talking?" Yo, she Yeah, it's
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on. Every phone didn't ring. No matter who it whose phone it is. Yo, who that?
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Yeah. Like, yo, you're minding your business, man. You don't have a phone a
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dollar to get a phone. It's real. I got a bony money out
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you. This kid is playing with me.
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You going through it. A family reunion is all nothing but your family there. We're at the breakfast
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table. I'm like, "Yo, table of 17." Lex, do me a favor. Put that down. No, I
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ain't got to listen to your whole family. Look breakfast. What you What you going to
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do? Yo, about older from the south. Yes. What? Oh my god. He would have became a part of the table
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back in the day. That's why. Did you still have a good time anyway? I had a blast
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on Instagram. Look, you having fun. I had a blast. I had an amazing time. I'm talking I'm talking crap right now. But I I had a I had a
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I had a really amazing time. Overwhelming. Overwhelming. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. How How about y'all
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family dynamic? Did y'all Yeah. Overwhelming. Overwhelming. How about y'all? Did y'all have fun?
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No. Short day. Short day. Yeah. I didn't want to leave.
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Big dog. Big dog. I had to drag us out of here. You have no idea, right?
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They're like [ __ ] I was on the highway already. I got downstairs. Me and Mel got downstairs. Ice was gone.
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Ice was at the GW like, "Yo, damn, fam. That's what you're doing." Putting the content first. Yep.
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Content was done. Quality control. work. When the work is done, then you black. Quality control, boy. I tell you.
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It was It was a good show. It was a good show. We felt good about the work product. I did too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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We had fun seeing the rubber marks on the street. That ice was gone. I'm like, I was going to get in the pool. It was
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nice out, too. I did wasn't ready. I mean, I was ready to leave here, but I was locked in the house all weekend.
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That chair looked That chair looks I don't know what the cleanup job was there. That [ __ ] is worse.
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Absolutely disgusting. It was Amman's responsibility. We need to it'll it'll all be in the paperwork
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some pledge on that or something. He was bringing out all types of everything. So money throws something in
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Mark spills it the coffee spills and now now y'all with white furniture at the
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boy. White furniture is a horrible idea. Yeah. And someone who bought a white couch.
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And some of y'all are a horrible idea. That's true too. Like them jeans that Mel wore.
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That [ __ ] is still blue. It's a blue couch now. Like that was crazy.
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We don't we we don't objectify our colleagues. I don't even know. Neither do I. No. No. You a viewer. You were supposed
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to be I only know from the couch imprint and the blue dye that left.
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I was wearing a new pair of blue jeans and they were dark blue and the transfer and Whoops.
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Oh, I didn't know. Whoops. Sorry. Whoops. Whoops. This is
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Where's the new furniture though? You've been talking about the new furniture that it was custom. It's coming from
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Italy or somewhere. And that's a fair point. 18 months. 15 months ago.
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I feel like it was 18 months ago that he mentioned this. I'm with you. Yeah. Then the numbers went down.
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[ __ ] Then the numbers went down.
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When did the numbers go down? I mean, I checked the Watch your mouth about the numbers and they went down. My bell curve.
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There was a bell curve somewhere I have to get to. But I mean, Mel is right. That's a fair point. We do need new
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couches. And we do. We do. Can't wait for you to get them. Yeah. Be great.
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Bob, can't wait to throw coffee on those. Good old Bob. Oh, no. We'll treat that with respect
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for at least what it'll run right off the vinyl. Oh, okay. Yeah. Word. Keep the plastic on it. Yeah. Yeah.
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Got some grandma. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. That's actually not a bad idea. All right. Little scotch garden.
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That ain't the worst ide.
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You ain't going to be able to outdo Parks and Flip. Uh, why would I have to outdo my teammates?
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Get your face. Why would I have to outdo my teammates? I mean, he he inspire he inspire. We all
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in the same gang is with You need to get out of that thinking. You're too competitive. Yeah, you got
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you too old to still be competing with your friends. Well, he's fresh off investing. I call my brother son cuz he shine like
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one. Like anything they do great is still a reflection on me. You got to cut that out. You're almost 50, man.
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Well, we tried off investment didn't happen yet. Oh, it didn't happen.
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You just saying shows who's going and who's not.
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We another speech you can't give. change is starting early.
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Hello, guys. I'm here to talk about cash flow. I'm about to talk about nothing. I can't
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wait. You going to go body that go? He going to body. You see how you just contradicted
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yourself? What? What? Got him. You just contradicted yourself. You just said Ish ain't going to talk about nothing up there.
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I'm listening. Not you. You also want to see your sun shining. Not you though. Wait, I'm joking. We know it takes
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I don't really believe that [ __ ] when I'm joking. I'm going air. No, you're not. I'm joking too. Stop that.
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You're just contradicting 48 and up. 48 and up. They getting to the joke with
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this sick word. Yo dog
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Samuel that
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look the that you don't want to argue with laughing with you. You don't want to argue with that and you and she don't
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want to argue with you. Look who comes who don't want to argue with who
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you don't argue with that no more after you show man. You don't argue with them no more. And you stop painting this narrative that me and
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Mark is running from the smoke with each other. I'm a grownup. You are I smoke with every
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you tippy toe around that. No, he tipp around you. You just don't
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want to hurt your feelings for you. Wait. Hey, you don't want to catch. I know. I see.
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I watch now. Pardon me for a second. You guys audience. I know there's a lot of y'all
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out there that think I snuck you an investment that this stuff only happens when I'm here and that they get along great when I'm gone.
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No, they had to take some stop down. We had to stop down.
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It was significant. Oh, really? See, I wouldn't have got that part. Remember when the thing happened with the thing? We had to stop down for a
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minute and chill everything out. Had to chill out for a second. It got a little turned up. How y'all turned up on a half day? ain't
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never been. I think that was before we knew we didn't have. That's why just jokes going in too long.
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Look, look at his face. Look at his face. And I mind my own business. I was like,
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I don't repeat. If somebody tell me that you didn't I mean, wait, you knew it was a half day. Why you think I was here? I don't work
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the morning. That's hilarious. Oh. Yeah. He texted me like halfway through
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and I texted Joe and that's how we Yeah. I was like, yo, Yo, I yo something.
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You in the mail. We in the mail room. Oh, look. We in the mail room. You know
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what I'm saying? I watch. You didn't say tell people I watch letters. If nothing else, I don't repeat.
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Anything Anybody who tells me I don't repeat. I would drop the fries. I think it was a secret. I also didn't
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ask everybody. He told me, but I didn't believe him. They told you
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and not because I don't believe you and you feel information. Yo word. Yo, you dead ass. I want to know why you
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miss at this moment was worth intervening with. Who do you think you helped with that piece of information?
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I don't know. You didn't even know. Nobody. You did repeat it, didn't you? Nobody. I told her I told her at the donut thing.
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I didn't The thing is I didn't want to get excited because I felt like he could just change his mind at any time and be like, "No, y
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I didn't want to get excited on the walking." No, the walk. He dropped the donuts on the walk in. No, I sent the donuts before I got here.
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No reason should something was up. I said donuts and I wasn't even here. Got it. For my colleagues. Love that about you. And thank you for
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the muffin today. And thank you for letting everybody know that I told you. Well, I mean,
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yo, bless her heart. That's one thing Mel going to do. That's one thing.
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Just just Mel. It ain't just Mel. Who else? It ain't Oh, you. Oh, she's a
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pack. Rat pack is here. I like this energy
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that y'all on. I was just coming and like getting where I fit in, not disrupt the flow or the energy, whatever you
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guys was doing it. But I like where y'all at with it. Okay, just shoot at everybody.
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Nothing beats a tattoo holiday. And right now
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punching at three girls for a family of four. These are the girls that stole out of Chanel and short. Millions of free child
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place holidays available. Hey y'all keep playing the short that's not the place to play. Wait, did they get away with it?
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No. Evidently not if we know about it. Okay. I didn't know. Yeah. Go up there playing.
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Yeah. They just learn where to play. I think Milburn get half of their income from that. They can't wait. Yeah. They'll lock that [ __ ] down
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immediately, too. I've been there before. Oh, that was crazy.
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[Music] Keep this applause. Going for the best
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crew in the universe. Mic check. Mic check. Mic check. [Music]
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Mel, you've been texting for 45 minutes, bro. No, I was looking for a video.
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[Applause]
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[Music] Uh,
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who was that? Mark [ __ ] New flip and mail. Mel mail. What
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episode is this? 853. Welcome to episode 853 of the Joe Button podcast. I'm your humble, grateful,
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gracious, happy to be here. Host Joe Button here with a few really amazing people. Before I forget, this episode is
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brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Price Fix Price Fix Gang. Yeah. Uh to my
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right, you already know the vibes. Legend, legend, legend, legendary, all that good [ __ ] Big in for Melissa Ford
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in the building. To her right, Queens get the money. Queens Flip in the building. Yo yo yo yo yo yo.
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To his to his right.
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Yo, if you in if you anywhere near Atlanta, [ __ ] Yeah.
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No, no. Let me get Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do that right. Do that right. You don't have to. Just some tea, my [ __ ] Support you,
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[ __ ] Hold up. Yeah, [ __ ] Hold up, man. No. We got to sit. We got to sit on my right. We got to do this the right way.
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Yeah. You don't have to hear of that. It's to his right. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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I'm taking it right here, though. Wait, is you didn't put the the promotion clause in your in your [ __ ] No, cuz I mean you can hit him for
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two. One, two, check me out. Yo, check this out, y'all.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you anywhere near the Atlanta area, huh?
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If you anywhere near Decada and all that. Huh? Oh, no. They got to pay you extra.
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If you anywhere near me a metro or a metro booming
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You know what I mean? If you anywhere near Rick Ross's estate,
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huh? You in for quite a treat.
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Ham. One of my mans is is going down here.
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This is my man's man's, too. My man's man's man's is going down there.
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He don't really stop in the A too much. He's busy busy in Portugal. Uh-huh. You know what I mean? The Cayman
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Islands, you know what I mean? He don't be over here. He be in the [ __ ] mafy coast.
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He be in can and all that. But he he's going to stop down there by y'all real quick.
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Grace you with his presence. Give you a little speech on his way to San Mar.
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Let you know what's on his mind real quick. Show me how to get this money. We call him ish.
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But if you're just meeting them out there, [Applause] it's ought to be in the building next
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week. Let's go out and stop playing around with him.
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Yeah, you know what he's there for. He snuck you, [ __ ] You going to be there, boy.
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[Music] Be right there with you. I dare you, [ __ ] Call Rashad and tell him cut you a
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check. Yeah, I'm not coming down here. I said call Rashad and tell him cut you a check. He should have cut me a check.
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He should. You should come. Oh, this getting clipped up. What? Rashad should come check. What? No, this part. You think Rashad
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won't have this over? Listen, those my peoples, man. Y'all have a blast down there at Investfest and all that. I just
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don't want to hear them come here and talk about it again. Listen, Cory knew not to try it this
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year. I told him those my mans. I want them to flourish, but never will they come sit here and tell me about it
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again. That's all them [ __ ] I do want the recap from is when we get back. We not going to get Guess what you're not going to get.
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You're not going to get the recap. It's Well, you act like that with us. I can give you the issue recap right now. It was cool.
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[ __ ] [ __ ] was dope, man. Nope. Don't go out there and let them tonight's conversation boy. Oh, we going to see it. Yo, represent,
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[ __ ] Hold up. Jokes aside, you been How many years? Mhm. You better give him at least one of
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these. Don't go out there and look stupid after the time [ __ ] [ __ ] Go out there. Yo, you got to give him one of these. Yo, go
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out there and don't get mocked up by them. I'm not playing with him. It's on God. Yo, wrap your hands in the bathroom
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mirror. Have your hands when you make a point like give them something for real.
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How to lose yourself playing in the mirror. Don't go out there and just off the
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cuff. Freestyle all
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the mall. Yo, this morning was Yo, traffic this morning was crazy. Yo, you
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better cuz who going? I don't know which one of them other [ __ ] is going, but I'm going up there.
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My son going out there. Stop playing with me, man. To his right. The freeziest of them all. Mr. Take a first. Ice is in the
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building. Our good brother Dark Lamont Hill, Mark Lamont Hill, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building. Elmyra's finest parks is
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here. Po is here. Cory's here. Ericson is here. Tannon here by remote last. But certainly not least, each and every one
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of you guys are here. What's up? What's popping? How's everybody doing? Good. How's everybody feeling?
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Great. Stupid ass cold trying to sneak up on me. The weather the weather changes doing some dumb [ __ ]
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Yeah, the weather I just told Mel is hitting like 72 this week. For all y'all that was telling me that it'll be 90 up
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until Halloween. It's going to get another surge though, right? I'm sure. Yeah. It ain't going to
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stay straight all the way across, but we we'll get some 80s. A second summer. Mhm. Mhm. a second summer.
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I mean, it's just a terminology for when it gets hell hot, like around the end of September and you're like, "What the [ __ ] happened?" You pull out your summer
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clothes again and then the next week it's 60. That's a baddies phrase.
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She second summer. Yeah, she's a badass. That's what you can say. But people have jobs. So no matter what the weather do,
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people got kids that's going to school and jobs. So the the weather could be Oh
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my lord. I can't wait. I was so excited. I looked up when schools start in every New Jersey district.
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Checking everywhere else. Every Monontlair Clifton Pam is a fool. Right. This morning I was checking all
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them shits. Is it like now? No, not now. The fourth. I'm not going to lie. I need that [ __ ]
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I need that [ __ ] to come back. Someone who's married to someone who works in schools cuz she'd be [ __ ] my schedule up. I look over, she's still asleep. I'm
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like, "Oh, it must not be that late yet." She's still asleep. But she's done summertime. You know what I mean?
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Make some noise for parts getting rim out the house. Thank you. Well done, sir.
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You dressed it up nice, too. You dressed it up nice. No, I'm dead ass. I should just be [ __ ] my schedule up. But she was out of town this weekend. And I will say it
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was nice for the first day cuz like it was some freedom. Ah, I can do whatever I want. But then by the second day, I was like, damn, man. You ready for
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My wife was away all weekend. I was I was I was okay with the distance. Really? Yeah. But you was you were bored by like the
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second day. So my son was potty training this weekend. Oh, you're right. How did that go?
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You did the 72. 72 hours it worked. It worked. It was the worst 72 hours in my life. Like he was he was actually good
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after like 36 hours. Okay. But basically you run around the house naked and just let him, you know, till
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whatever. And but he's a crazy person and we couldn't leave the house cuz he was naked. So he decided to just spend
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the whole weekend punching me in the face and choking and I couldn't do nothing about it. So he used the potty.
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But he used the potty every time. But he used the potty every time. So it was it was it was a victory. Any parents out there, do that [ __ ] It works. Just be
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ready to lose your mind in the house. But I'm ready for school to start. Yeah. Cannot wait. Same. Get these little bad ass these
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little terrorists. Put them back on the teachers, right? Let's get them out of our good homes.
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That's why this why they make so much money. Oh my lord. Shout to the teachers, man.
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Uh anyway. Yo, that's crazy. Where we at? I don't remember nothing. I don't remember nothing. What? What's
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bother? What we doing? What's happening? I'm I still wanted more details from your family reunion because the thing that I kept wondering while I was
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watching your IG is who go well the food looked amazing even though you're bringing them back
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but I want that cake I was looking at them chicken wings that cake that cake looks crazy
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chocolate cake but what does Joe Button do I'm sorry what what does Joe button do at a button family reunion are you just do you
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become regular again do you become little Joe or you big Joe or you like do they treat you like a celebrity do they make you go get go off ice like how do
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you navigate that no there's no celebrity Okay. There's no celebrity none. That's a good question actually.
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Look at you. Start with a great question. No, no, it's no celebrity, none of that.
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You know what it is honestly for me? Like I talk about up here sometimes the
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escalator going up and your turn at each different spot.
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It's just that now really it's my it's my turn the old
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to be this on your uncle Jonah on on the elevator
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like one of my one of my one of my aunts 92 a body 92 my button jeans good but
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one of my aunts is like yeah just continue to take care about you doing a great job
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like [ __ ] like that like it's my turn to make you feel warm as I cried 9 million
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times out there. Cried 9 million times out there. But [ __ ] I never said the word cousin. So I don't even think I
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ever seen so many cousins. Like I said the word cousin like like I was a [ __ ]
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I was about to like it's a lot of Okay, let's see. Let me see how I could
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properly explain this. My granddad, my dad's dad is has 12
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siblings. Oh, wow. Okay. Oh, yeah. That's love.
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Yeah. Each of them, my granddad had six kids. My aunt Catherine has seven kids.
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Okay. [ __ ] this aunt has Hazel has eight
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kids. They all have this type, but they was [ __ ]
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They ain't have nothing. They was They was [ __ ] And let my dad tell it, my my my greatgrandad, no,
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his granddad on the land and the farm. So now you got all these kids and you work. So everybody just got and and then
- 24:40
those kids had kids and some of those kids had kids. Mhm. I never seen so many damn cousins and he
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don't my oldest son don't remember ever. He don't he ain't been he ain't been out here
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since he was like seven or some [ __ ] So he don't really remember nothing that's going on. Lex was just out here being bad now 8 months ago. So everybody know
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him. So it's just overwhelming seeing everybody. My aunt and shout out to
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Listen, let me give shout outs that only matter to the people that was there. Shout out to M Catherine. Who else? M
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Lou. Shout out to Mad Lee. Amazing job putting that together. Cousin Brenda. Shout out to the old just everybody out
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there. Like that was just phenomenal to see like to see this event take place on
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these grounds that you know been here for a hundred years where every generation was like that big shed I put
- 25:34
in my Instagram that was the shed for like 150 years. So it's just like emotional seeing that's so fly
- 25:42
like here where me and Michael Paul on this same rim. I'm telling him crying yo
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we played on this rim when I was three. That rim is still sitting there, right? A triple double.
- 25:54
It was a real rim. I mean, yeah, but it's rusty and crooked and the backboard might be missing
- 26:01
pieces now, but it's still the same. It's right there. It ain't move. It ain't going nowhere. That's That's Yeah, that's
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We went We went I made all them me and Michael Paul take all the a picture in front of like a watermelon stand like
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where me and Michael Paul used to sell watermelon for my granddad. 30 plus years ago.
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So, it's all of these things happening and then I take him to the cemetery. Sunday morning, we go to the cemetery.
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That was my favorite. That's why the Moses Button that Yeah. And that's just cuz them bugs was [ __ ] me up. I ain't feel like walking
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back there where them [ __ ] from the 17s was. But it was 17s out there.
- 26:38
Now, was Moses your grandfather? Great-grandfather? Moses is my grandfather's grandfather.
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Holy [ __ ] Oh, wow. He was born the year slavery ended. Yeah, that's that's it. So, you got my
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dad here explaining who all of these people are
- 26:57
and the relation to and we got all our kids there. Michael Paul's there with his wife, they kid like, so it's real
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emotional. I see him go take the walk to go to go cry. I know that walk, [ __ ] cuz you my come. You came out of my
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dick. Wow. I know that walk. It's crazy. So I see him take the walk. I know why
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you walking. So we get in the car. I try to have the talk. Here he go. Hey, what's going on?
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You all right? He keep crying.
- 27:28
Oh boy, he was a mess. So now I'm thinking we about to add a dad talk like the dad son. Yep. Hey, what's going on?
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How you how you feeling? I hate cemeteries.
- 27:43
He don't He don't get it though. Okay. He don't get it. Who likes cemeteries?
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You don't even realize what you looking at. Who likes cemeteries? Nobody likes the cemeteries.
- 27:55
Well, I'm not talking about those guys that go there. No, we're not talking about that either.
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But I'm just saying, dog. [ __ ] when you even hung out in the cemetery, right? People don't just go to cemeteries and
- 28:07
hang, right? Like my mom my mom's mom is buried in the Bronx. She ain't been there yet.
- 28:13
Wow. People ain't just going to It ain't a thing. Like you could say, "Yo, I'm overwhelmed
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with emotion. I didn't even know that all of this this family was here and I
- 28:27
was deprived for some of this from you and mom. I only know one side. I'm seeing a whole different like you can
- 28:34
say these things." So that's emotional for me now. So I'm watching him cry. I'm crying. Mhm. Question. Do you want
- 28:39
Lex still just bad just legs don't give a [ __ ] about question you want to be buried there
- 28:45
I don't know that would be fly I don't know you know what I thought of just because
- 28:51
if my family had stupid creative brains I'm going there I would want like my feet to get cut off
- 28:57
okay at death and put them in the little chain for for the to walk around and then put the rest
- 29:03
of me uh over there did you say put in starlets
- 29:10
By the fence. By the fence. You broke the
- 29:18
hang your sneakers on the fence. Them soccer you had on. Oh man, that is funny. They could cut
- 29:25
half of me and put me in the chain for the Well, if they cremate you, then you could you don't have to cut anything.
- 29:30
Well, cremate half of me. Oh, yeah. They could just take a scoop and [ __ ]
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What's wrong with you? M I mean if you got enough money you get anything done. Yeah. What are you talking about? So what they going to just have you in a
- 29:41
casket top up? I mean casket. Well I don't necessarily know that I
- 29:46
want people looking at me anyway. I came here and talked about is that open casket [ __ ] some American [ __ ]
- 29:53
I don't know if I want people looking at me like that. I definitely don't close my [ __ ] up. Yeah. Come through. Yeah.
- 29:58
And I don't want to make this morbid here but but no that that that family [ __ ]
- 30:04
is fire. That's super fire. Super fire. Like that's a blessing, my [ __ ] That most people can't
- 30:10
True. Can't can't take What year is that part of? What year is what in terms of it's an annual thing. So
- 30:15
what what year is this? Well, no. Well, this is the first time that we did this on our grounds cuz a
- 30:22
lot of the families in Tampa, so they had a family reunion. They be they be holding a family the real family reunion being in Tampa. I
- 30:27
don't be going that [ __ ] Okay. Cuz they in Florida and I'm like that's not fair. Catherine 90 making her [ __ ] go to Tampa like what are we
- 30:34
doing? Yeah. So this was the first time the cousins got together and was like, "Yo,
- 30:39
less on the grounds. All us come bring our kids, bring our wives, bring your husband, and let's let's do it." So they
- 30:46
was lying dancing. That [ __ ] is uh who's on the
- 30:51
uh one of my c How the Spades game go? Uh Pop and one of my cousins beat up on
- 30:57
two. Now I'm not playing them bums. Not playing them bums. You got to play the fam though.
- 31:03
Beyonce, [ __ ] So they don't treat you like you treat.
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That's all I was thinking. Like I know Joe and Pop down there cleaning [ __ ] up. [ __ ] down south be nice.
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[ __ ] down south be nice. I'm not going to do that to them, man. The people I used to play against, they
- 31:21
not like Gina ain't playing. The cousin Daryl ain't playing. But we had we had a real good time. That's fine though. Yeah. The cousins took over my hotels. It was
- 31:27
just like buttons everywhere I turned. Uh you know what I thought though? This is
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what I thought. If I grew up down there, I'd be a little different. I'm up here perpetrating fraud. All this New York, New Jersey, Joe Button [ __ ] [ __ ]
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country, all that starlet [ __ ] You know how many women out of bag and Buffalo Wild Wings? I took my ass in Buffalo Wild Wings.
- 31:46
Man, we down south, [ __ ] Hey, church. Hey, we got to Buffalo Wild Wings and had a blast. And they was in
- 31:53
there, [ __ ] Clean up. But hey, the [ __ ] grilled chicken with the with the
- 31:58
Buffalo Wild Wings got done some [ __ ] Like you been rich too long. Some of that
- 32:05
poor [ __ ] is delicious. Yo, I can't stop
- 32:11
[ __ ] My girl ordered the grilled chicken with the garlic and something else. Pepper. I ordered some [ __ ]
- 32:17
loaded nachos or something. Oh [ __ ] Shout out to Black Moses out there with the six horses. Uh black uh black
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cowboy. Okay. Mhm. This is just from mingling at the bar.
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Okay. You make small talk people at the bar. You really was good. Yeah. You're in your bag. When I get out when I when I get out of
- 32:34
here and even here sometimes, but when I get out, I talk to people. I talk to people at from different walks of
- 32:41
life. That's the dope part about being away is you can feel you can do that whether it's the south, whether it's a small suburb, you can do that cuz out here you
- 32:47
can't do that. So Moses actually is the second dude I talked to. Long story less long, right?
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I was talking to a older white gentleman named Aaron I want to say is his name
- 32:59
really sweet guy se seated like right next to me and my girl and we get to talking just about we sitting here so
- 33:05
[ __ ] it we this close to each other right and he's a truck driver so he just started telling me about this
- 33:10
little small facts about all of these different states and cities and countries and just places around the
- 33:16
world and we still get to talking he's he's looking to retire soon well actually this his second job do
- 33:22
something else. Retired from that. Now he's doing it just on some passion. I'm free and I'm just driving cuz I love
- 33:29
to do I'm divorced. Yep. I'm divorced. I was married to my wife for 20 years. One another one one day
- 33:36
she woke up and thought the grass would be greener. Wow. I said, "Damn, man. So, what are you
- 33:42
doing?" He said, "I'm dating my first wife." Oh, [ __ ] I said, "Yo, that's
- 33:48
that's kind of flying. That's that's kind of flying. Hell yeah. That is pretty fly to date your
- 33:53
first wife. Also, one of my favorite things I'll share with y'all and then we can move forward. One of my new favorite
- 34:00
things is
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is talking to somebody who has no idea who I am.
- 34:12
I bet. And then someone who knows who I am
- 34:18
comes in it. That's your new favorite thing. Yo, I get to act so fake humble. Yo, it
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is No, I was talking to Aaron. I was talking to Aaron for about 50 minutes
- 34:33
before Black Moses I mean came in and said Joe button.
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Joe button. No way. That's Yeah, man. Nice. Nice to meet you.
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Hey. I'm like, "Yeah, man. I chill." Good to meet you.
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Oh, you want a pick? I think I signed an autograph in Buffalo. I went for real. Oh, they got your picture on. You know
- 34:59
what I mean? They put you on. No, but the black people in there knew I won. So, the lady over there like, "Look,
- 35:06
you got me. It's me
- 35:12
in the flesh. It's me. I'm here. I'm here. Thank you. Thank you. Salute. What you doing here? You know, you know,
- 35:20
you know, you know, being a humble humble servant of whatever whoever you was talking to,
- 35:26
they guaranteed to say, "Hey, what's going
- 35:32
continues?" Well, today I just broadcast. Little broadcasting.
- 35:38
But a long time ago, you know, I used to do music many, many many moons ago. Many moons.
- 35:45
I'm such a [ __ ] That [ __ ] is so fly. That [ __ ] is fly. And one of them white
- 35:51
[ __ ] at that Buffalo Wild Wings bar was pretentious at first. That was just another day. This was another day. He was pretentious. He was
- 35:58
looking like cuz it's still down here something. You either whitey white or blacky black. Not an in between. He was
- 36:04
looking them [ __ ] can't. No. Say words. That's
- 36:09
Joe Butson right there. Say words. Now here you go. What do you do?
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What do you What do you do? I'm a billionaire.
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Investments. Investments. I know it's hard to tell right this
- 36:28
second. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm rich out to watch. I heard a thing called Empire State. Yeah. on that [ __ ]
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you talking. Yeah, the man was just lying. We had a good time. We had a good time.
- 36:41
Had a good time. Shout out to my entire family. We We It was great. That sounds amazing. Look forward to
- 36:47
doing it. Super dope, man. Doing it next year. Chicago Bulls. Yeah. Yeah. I'm part owner. Get your [ __ ] racist ass out
- 36:54
of here. Yeah. I was Oh [ __ ] I got to say bye to
- 36:59
my baby. Look at my baby back in New Jersey. back in New Jersey.
- 37:05
I ain't going to lie. Yo, no. I had to let the audience know. Hold up now. I got to let the N chill. I let the
- 37:10
audience know. Might as well come move up here. Fine. Listen.
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I got to let I can No, I can't play. Better know. Although she nags me
- 37:23
a good place. I ain't letting her go.
- 37:30
N we back back here in New Jersey. They cancel my flight. They cancel my flight. [ __ ] Columbia
- 37:36
airport. I think that they don't send a flight out if if it ain't full. Yeah. So they cancel my flight. Then we
- 37:42
got to drive to Charlotte, take a 9:00. Never that. How far is that?
- 37:48
I would I don't know. I know. I have no idea, [ __ ] I called the jet so fast.
- 37:54
I called the private jet so fast and paid that money and and then I learned
- 38:00
that my mom is scared of private jets. [ __ ] Why? Cuz they so small.
- 38:06
This one was small. Mhm. Because it's only five of us and it's a 90minute trip. There ain't no luggage.
- 38:12
I have read articles recently about the safety issues that may or may not exist.
- 38:18
Me too. I read them. Yeah. Guess what? If it's my time.
- 38:23
Yeah. Okay. We reading about cars, too. What the [ __ ] Train like like
- 38:29
Yeah. Standing on the curb. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to It's going to take a time.
- 38:34
Curves ain't 30,000 ft. I mean, sometimes I feel like it. Yeah. We took a jet back and that was
- 38:40
that. But that's good. Yeah. Go say bye to your lady. Say bye to my baby right there was all
- 38:46
supportive and [ __ ] Loving me. He talking that [ __ ] He looked so exhausted when he got in his voice. He was trying to start the recording at
- 38:51
9:30. You can't hear me, can you? No. Okay, good. Yeah, he was trying to start
- 38:58
beat. Yo, you look beat, too, though. Me? Yeah. Oh, [ __ ] I'm so [ __ ] beat. You look
- 39:04
beat. I need to work. What' you say? Too much parenting. Too much parenting. Yeah, I'm over it.
- 39:10
Parks. Don't ever trade pictures with us. I ain't going to lie, man. I can't wait
- 39:15
for these schools to open back up. Oh, I just I'm looking at the calendar like come on. I'm ready to let anybody watch my kids
- 39:20
right now. You can stay home by yourself. What's your name? Twitter, right? Roffus.
- 39:26
Roffus. You got a degree. Yeah. Go. Agree. Teach him some [ __ ] You got teeth? No. Teach him some [ __ ]
- 39:32
But but when when Joe was talking, he was talking about the dude that's redating his wife. And it made me think about
- 39:37
breakups and this Journey Smlette thing. Okay. Have y'all been following this?
- 39:42
No. No. Oh my god. So, Journey Journey Smlette, the the actress actress and sister of one of the great
- 39:48
thesians of our time. Jesse Smlet. Are you being sar? Oh, yes. He's being sarcastic. She very shout out to Jesse. Um, she
- 39:56
broke up with her husband who's a musician and he has she's getting alimony. He's getting
- 40:01
alimony. He's getting alimony about 7,000 a month maybe. Oh, sure. And now he's coming back for half of her
- 40:06
retirement. Mhm. And I'm like, I don't see the problem. But a lot of people are
- 40:11
a lot of the most of the money that she earned was way before they even got into a relationship with each other.
- 40:17
So So and she's like why do you want a part of this woman's retirement who's been working since she was a [ __ ] baby?
- 40:23
Like that's ser that's that's like sick. I'm sorry. And you're already getting alimony. Do are you good with the alimony?
- 40:30
Hey, if that's what the court ordered, then that's what the court ordered. Follow the court's rules. It was the other way around. But after
- 40:36
he's literally benefiting and that's what I'm saying. If the court ordered it, then pay it. But I think Philip would say that if the
- 40:42
other way was around, you might be less outraged about the the retirement. Not her, just about people in general.
- 40:47
Yeah. Well, let's just stick to this journey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We kept the show going. Um,
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[Laughter] I miss you, man. When you're not here, man. Listen, I'm happy to be here.
- 40:59
Yeah. No, cuz the the thing for me is I'm okay with anybody getting alam. Like you said, if the court orders it, the
- 41:06
court orders it. But beyond that, like who made the most money, whose lifestyle needs to be stable? There's debates
- 41:11
about what enough is, but I'm okay with him getting the alimony. The retirement thing, I'm also I'm not okay with it if
- 41:17
the money is of most of it was made before they met. I think that's not okay. But sometime it gets complicated. You
- 41:24
know what I mean? In terms of when did it mature, how much of your earning potential enhanced by being married, how
- 41:30
like what role did I play in your [ __ ] going up? All those things are factors that we have to look at. So for me, it's never cut and dry. whether and again for
- 41:35
me it doesn't matter whether it's male who who's paying al the gender thing for me is less important than who
- 41:41
needs to be supported but I don't but people to me have been pissed off at him since the the alimony not because of the
- 41:47
retirement they make him seem like a money grubber from the beginning they they're always mad when a guy when a guy
- 41:52
not supposed to get no money from the girl yeah just not you but that's how a lot of people
- 41:57
I'm not taking any of this personal cuz it has nothing to do with me but the reality of that particular circumstance
- 42:02
is that a lot of people feel that feel like she married below her station.
- 42:08
That's a fact. That is what that is what a lot of the what a lot of the frustration and the commentary is about.
- 42:17
What does that mean? What does that mean? It's it's a it's a phrase. You guys know
- 42:22
what it means. Don't play with me right now. Well, it could mean different things. Some people think that uh looks are the
- 42:29
station. Not looks. Got it. I'm talking about I'm talking I'm talking about finances. I'm talking
- 42:35
about what they do professionally because they're both artists. She's better at it. She's more famous.
- 42:41
Yeah. But we don't know what he made. Yeah. He's a musician, but I don't I don't know. I don't know exactly how he kind
- 42:48
of is that nobody really knows anything about his artistry, but we know exactly who she is.
- 42:53
Dude's music. Oh my. Do we know his artist name?
- 42:59
No. We don't know nothing about that, right? No, he might be. He might be lit.
- 43:05
Well, if he's lit, nobody seems to know about that. The actions don't appear that he's lit.
- 43:11
Well, see, this is where I I my advice is go get lit.
- 43:17
Use that 7,000 new budget. That's what he trying to do. That 12 mil, he gonna be lit to the
- 43:23
[ __ ] It's hard being an indie artist, man. Were they married for? Uh, how long were they met? They married October 24th, 2010.
- 43:30
That's a really long time. When did they get divorced? Divorce was finalized August 2021.
- 43:36
Okay. When was it? She's only But she's only 30 something. I mean, she's young. That's a big chunk of her prof of her adult life.
- 43:43
That's what I'm saying. They was married for 6 months. That's a big chunk. Okay. You know what I mean? And she ascended while they were together. That's why I
- 43:49
don't That's why I'm saying it's not as simple as like it's like you marry somebody when you 50 and I want half your retirement.
- 43:54
Mhm. You know what I'm saying? Now, she was a child actress and she did make some money before that. Again, I don't I don't think she should be giving up
- 43:59
everything, but I do think it's too simple sometimes to just look at like start and end dates and say, you know, you get X or you get Y. Everything needs
- 44:05
context. But the below your station thing always bothers me when people say it. Um
- 44:11
because again, like what is what does that mean? Um when we say let's just use somebody like Denzel Washington as a
- 44:17
good example, right? He's married an extraordinary woman who he's been with for decades. Will we say he married below his station because he's more lit?
- 44:24
because he's more right. But but we're doing that. But they were but they were married before he was Denzel Washington.
- 44:30
I mean Jon Smlette isn't No disrespect. She's not Viola Davis. I mean I'm not saying that she's Viola Davis.
- 44:35
And don't and don't make it seem like I'm the one who's making the comment that she married below her station. I'm
- 44:40
just basically stating the facts of what everybody Yeah. I'm responding to the people who say saying that. Yeah. Yeah. And and to
- 44:46
me I just I just think it's sometimes You don't think she married below her station? I'm not making a assessment as to
- 44:52
whether she did. We ain't heard this [ __ ] mixtape. You can say it. She married below a station. This which is
- 44:58
why which is why cuz I'm in the middle. I agree with everything you saying. And in real life, he should get some of the
- 45:05
retirement fund. But as a man, [ __ ] go and put something on Soundcloud.
- 45:12
Get out of here. Kick rocks. You are young and able-bodied and you're an artist, so maybe you should go out
- 45:18
and get a go. He's a composer. Um, it says he's worked on soundtracks for major productions
- 45:25
such as Spider-Man Miles Morales. 9,000 [ __ ] on that.
- 45:32
9,000 [ __ ] did the soundtrack on that. Say he was playing a triangle. Yeah, that's a big That's a big soundtrack. Um, and it says Reasonable
- 45:38
Doubt, showcasing his range as a composer and producer. He's a serious dude. He just doesn't
- 45:43
make a lot of money. He got a million dollars from her and continues to receive $7,000 per month in combined
- 45:50
child support and alimony. And now he's seeking 50% of her rolling her eyes. I love you. Soon as you heard child
- 45:57
support, she rolled your eyes. I did. No, that wasn't even it. It was like you got a million dollar. You get
- 46:03
$7,000 in an alimony and child support. And now you want 50% of her retirement and you were married for how long? And
- 46:10
not only that, we don't know when she filed. We don't know what the state of their marriage was the entire time that
- 46:15
they were married. There could have been like a separation after five, six years. We don't know any of that. We also don't
- 46:21
know. I'd really like to find out from her how much of a contributing factor to her
- 46:26
um professional life being married to him actually was. I'd really like to know that from her.
- 46:32
This is where I have to interject or rebut what you're saying. And I'm on the
- 46:38
same again. And I'm in the middle here because I I'm on the same side when women do it. Like when women do it who
- 46:44
we don't know and we don't know what they did for a living. If you was married, if she was married to her and it's California and then you hit the lick, then she's a
- 46:53
part of that lick. If I get married today, whatever happened in my in my
- 46:58
financial business moving forward, an argument can be made that yeah, that's a
- 47:03
part of my wife or or or Shotti is doing. So I understand that. Uh,
- 47:09
damn. What's the last thing you just said that was said I was responding to? I forgot now. Day marriage could have been in disarray.
- 47:14
Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Wait. None of that matters. The whole whether we were off or on, whether you left, I came back. If
- 47:23
we were married, right, and you succeeded.
- 47:28
I don't give a [ __ ] what we was fighting about at home. The argument can be made that I'm a part of. That's where I jump
- 47:34
off the the bandwagon. Yeah. I think the thing people underestimate, this happens a lot with athletes. Um the
- 47:41
the whole you weren't with you weren't with me shooting in the gym thing, you know, when they said that about uh Kobe.
- 47:47
Um yeah, but she was doing the meal prep. That she was doing the meal prep. Also staying with him after all the
- 47:52
controversies, that [ __ ] might have been worth $30 million in endorsements. You don't get McDonald's back if she leaves.
- 47:57
You look, you know what I mean? I'm just saying like marriage has its own value when you're an entertainer. all the
- 48:04
spreads they did on her on their marriage and their wedding and their all I'm saying is these things are off can be mon and I agree with that. I totally agree
- 48:10
with the fact that um you could see it on Instagram right now. People who get coupled up and married and [ __ ] like
- 48:16
that. People People eat that [ __ ] up. They love it. Yeah. Couple goals and all
- 48:21
that [ __ ] People love that [ __ ] I totally agree with you that it can be perceived as a benefit in that way.
- 48:27
So when you divorce, pay what you owe. I mean, I feel like she did
- 48:34
and and and based on what based on what California law is that's why why she's
- 48:39
got because I all like I said before I would really I think that the that the factors
- 48:44
that I outlined matter. I think that the factors outline in terms of who knows maybe she wanted the divorce and he
- 48:51
wouldn't grant her one in year eight because I know the rule in California after 10 years of being married then
- 48:57
it's really like half of assets it gets it gets real [ __ ] expensive. I totally understand that. But if there
- 49:03
might be factors that are not a part of this story that are relevant to the outcome of him demanding 50% of her
- 49:11
retirement to me, that's just that is excessive by the state by what I've
- 49:16
heard. Just to tie it all up, I I I don't necessarily disagree with that. I I think the the issue for me is that when
- 49:24
there's a divorce and the male is the rich person, our default position is you get half and what this
- 49:29
and nobody will [ __ ] blink an eye to say, "Yo, I wonder what the
- 49:34
the dynamic was in their relationship. Was he happy? Was she happy? Did she cheat on him? Did he cheat on her?"
- 49:41
Nobody says a [ __ ] thing. And then people also say, "Yo, you can't put a price tag on what somebody does in a
- 49:47
relationship and in a marriage." So we going to allow the same criteria to stand for this man. You don't know how
- 49:52
supportive he was in her career. You don't know if he put his career on the sideline to be supportive in her career.
- 49:58
And all of those things that we bring up as as arguments for the woman when she's the benefactor. We going to use them as
- 50:05
for the same [ __ ] for the man. Do they have kids? Yes. Getting child support. And let's be
- 50:10
clear, $7,000 ain't a lot of money for alimony/child support. That's a million dollar a lot. Not a lot
- 50:17
of money. That's a really good point. When I actually think about the amount, I mean, I don't know how much she makes, so but but 7,000 isn't crazy for Chaz.
- 50:24
Jimmy Butler was paying his baby mother like 50 grand and she went back to court and tried to get like 70,000. I'm off in
- 50:31
the numbers, but he was paying some astronomical amount of money. And ain't nobody say a [ __ ] thing to Jimmy
- 50:36
Butler. They said, "Yo, shorty is deserving of that bread." We talked about it in here. And there's and there's an uptick in her
- 50:41
career happening, right? Currently. Yeah. Right. So don't try to get funny
- 50:47
and now take some of the money, move it to your retirement fund and now I want Oh, that's interesting. That could be
- 50:53
part of Yeah, I want in on a lot of those things happen. I just need detail. There's tax benefits to that. So don't
- 50:58
start don't don't play with me. Yeah, they have one child. Just I enough one child um born in
- 51:04
rainy night in Georgia. We'll do it. For me it was Puerto Rico and it was sunny out. But
- 51:10
that'll get it done. I know where yours was too, [ __ ]
- 51:18
Yeah, that'll do it. That'll do it. Yeah. Like I I don't think anything is wrong with the gentleman. I mean,
- 51:24
to your point, as a man, I don't really want your bread. Just as a I promise you, my [ __ ] Like,
- 51:30
I'm not saying you lying. I'm saying I feel different, dog. As a man, when yo, when men break up, man,
- 51:36
I don't want your bread. Are you [ __ ] kidding me? I am not. If the money if the person I'm
- 51:42
with their money relation to me was her relationship to him. Yes, I would want
- 51:47
Yes, I'd want to get paid. They weren't married for 11 years. Yes. So, y dog, what happened to yo, I have
- 51:52
to I have to maintain this. Yes. She only 38. That's what I'm saying. She got she was
- 51:58
21. They got they was in the military when they got married.
- 52:03
Yo, so she so she must have married him in her early 20s. So, they were together a very long time in her professional
- 52:09
career. Homeboy need to kick rocks. Go to dad piff, [ __ ] Put something out. Hit the A. Call Clue
- 52:15
Doo [ __ ] or somebody. Yeah. Get out of here. Call my lawyer.
- 52:20
Here's the thing. You got to remember he's getting child support. That means he's got the primary custody of the kid. If you were married to Rihanna and got
- 52:27
divorced, see your whole face just changed for a second. If you married Rihanna and got divorced and you got to take care of the kid,
- 52:33
you're not exactly and you have been able to grow your career because you were supporting her. You telling me you wouldn't want child support? Listen, whatever whatever they
- 52:39
deem I wouldn't be fighting for more bread. I'm not built like that. I wouldn't be fighting for more money if I was married to Rihanna. Whatever the
- 52:45
court set forth to I'm sure would be more than enough money, my [ __ ] I've lived.
- 52:51
So whatever I understand the court is going to allocate is going to be better than some I'm sorry. Then we on the same page. I
- 52:57
was I wasn't saying I would fight for more. I was saying I would take the child support and all fight. I'm not going to court to get half a
- 53:03
retirement. We saying the same. Yeah. That's all I was saying. Yeah. Yeah, man. That would be No, I ain't taking half.
- 53:08
I'm saying. Okay, I heard y'all.
- 53:14
Retirement is what? Give me that, too. You want half of 50? Come on, please.
- 53:19
Ice is black and white. Ice is like, "Yo, the law the law states this." Hey, if it was the other way around, I'd be [ __ ] And nobody would bat an eye.
- 53:26
Yeah. No. I'm going to play this hand. This wins the hand. I was rich. When dudes be rich, they be like, "Yo,
- 53:32
bro. I'm not No disrespect to anybody." And rest in peace, Kobe. Y'all know her. Yeah, fam. I doubt if Vanessa was meal
- 53:39
prepping. Like they a different type of rich, fam. You have maids, you got chefs, they had
- 53:44
three girls or four girls, fam. They had double nannies. I tell you one thing though, the the embarrassment of the scandal I'm not
- 53:50
disagreeing is worth that much. I'm not cool 100%. That's I'm not I'm talking about like with rich rich people like uh
- 53:57
Mel Gibson when his wife was cracking his head. They like, "Yo, you can't fam." They've been rich a very long
- 54:04
time. They not. It ain't like she cleaning up the house every day. You know who's not rich? Me, Antoine
- 54:10
and Omar Pitting Jr. because [ __ ]
- 54:15
if y'all want to move down south, y'all will be rich. Uh, not no more. The what currency does in Starllet
- 54:23
versus what it do at Buffalo Wild Wings is too Holy. Trust me. Trust me. Listen,
- 54:31
everybody bought my [ __ ] Not to bring it back to Buffalo Wild Wings. Everybody bought my whole tater tot wild nachos
- 54:38
chicken. They paid for my [ __ ] I didn't pay. Who's that? Uh Moses the black cowboy.
- 54:44
Aaron paid for the first round of the drinks everybody got. Like I didn't pay for nothing.
- 54:50
Wow. So when the check came, you know, I put a $100 tip.
- 54:56
And boy, what it did to this white this little white girl who still didn't know who I was.
- 55:02
She was like really ecstatic. Them [ __ ] at Starlet don't give a [ __ ] about your little as $100.
- 55:09
Yo, them [ __ ] be like, "Yo, I thought you was going to show me love." She was so 50. I said, "When you working again back?"
- 55:16
Yeah. No, I went to see her again. I'm like, "You missed that." So y'all should go to South. I'm I'm down there
- 55:21
sometimes. I'm cool, bro. I gave a girl $10 at Starbucks the other day. I might could have got some.
- 55:28
I'm telling you. Yo. Yo, dog. I'm not lying. They look I love when people just be appreciative for
- 55:34
sure. That is true. Yeah, but if if if the [ __ ] I know y'all don't mess with escorts and
- 55:41
neither do I anymore. That's not
- 55:48
Stop. Control yourself. If the head is $10,
- 55:53
I'm cool. Do you want the head? Just checking, bro. Do you want the head? That was a joke like I got crackhead head before.
- 56:01
$10 head come with no teeth. Got crackhead head head, too. She was on crack.
- 56:08
How did we end up here? I tried to go to Omar Goody Jr. Okay, let's do it. I tried to
- 56:14
transition. Oh, wait. Actually, now it's time for my favorite. I didn't know she was looking,
- 56:20
but you be on the phone with them [ __ ] You phone thug with a crackhead.
- 56:25
You know more about their life than me. What's this? What was crackling like
- 56:33
free? I had no idea. She was struggling.
- 56:38
What is that crackling noise? Oh, that's crackish.
- 56:43
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- 58:29
this for half a second in real time as the story broke on Patreon, but I hadn't
- 58:35
seen the video until I got home. It's special. I think that the Cam versus uh
- 58:42
Omar Gooding needs more attention than we gave it.
- 58:47
For sure. This is the This is diabolical if I've ever seen it. Some Evil Genius [ __ ]
- 58:54
Can we give him a little context? Like let's do it. So this all started when Cameron on his
- 59:00
show was shouting out mentioning actors and talking about some of the lesserk known lesser heralded actors and he said
- 59:07
Omar Gooding Jr. Now obviously his name isn't Omar Gooding Jr. It's just Omar
- 59:12
Gooding Cuba Gooding. Honest mistake. It seemed like an honest mistake by all accounts. It wasn't a disc. You could say that the statement
- 59:19
was a diss, but saying his name wasn't a disc. Right. Apparently Omar Gooden
- 59:24
doesn't like being called Omar Gooden Jr. because he responded with a diss tracks.
- 59:31
And I got to say, not the worst diss track I've ever seen from an actor. The best diss track. I mean, it it didn't
- 59:36
sound bad. I mean, Cam said it. Yeah. Cam agreed. Yeah. That's where this gets a little tricky
- 59:42
cuz actor dude can rap. Yeah. Who knew that he could rap, right? So, he was on Cam Ash for a little bit.
- 59:49
Yes. He He's made four of them now, right? and seemingly or at least I thought that Cam was ignoring him and
- 59:57
being the bigger person. Yeah, right. All my time for that.
- 1:00:03
That's his thing. Well, I mean, the streets turned the narrative into Cam is ignoring this cuz homeboy can rap.
- 1:00:09
That's what the streets were saying. Uh, what streets? The streets that heard this guy's disc
- 1:00:17
cuz not a lot of people heard this. It's like a digital thing. Cool. But my question to them to them streets is have y'all heard Cameron this
- 1:00:23
before? Probably not. Okay. All right. Probably not. That's probably I said that was
- 1:00:30
narrative narrative small narrative running around. But anyway, what developed had to be one of the funniest
- 1:00:36
things I've ever seen. Facts. I' I don't think I've ever seen anything like this. Even when Trick Tricking them
- 1:00:42
was doing this [ __ ] and it ending a different way, they wasn't filming it for the world to see.
- 1:00:47
Cam books Omar Gooding
- 1:00:54
for a movie read and a movie a fake movie that's never
- 1:01:00
coming out but it's coming out cuz I didn't know you would do all the stupid [ __ ] that you did on tape so now we got
- 1:01:05
to put it out so I book you for half of 7500
- 1:01:10
which is already this is this is what the [ __ ]
- 1:01:16
so he books him he comes down he's in room surrounded by Cam's people and they
- 1:01:22
filming, but he's also filming him getting ready to film. So that mean he catching him doing
- 1:01:29
push-ups, talking to himself in the mirror like Cam and Cam is on another TV
- 1:01:35
watching and pointing and laughing, hollering. Game over. Yeah, it's over. Yeah, you lost. The game The game was over at that
- 1:01:42
point. Yeah, it is. However, it continued and then there was a trailer for the fake movie.
- 1:01:48
that they dropped and a poster with Cam Face 2 on it. Dog,
- 1:01:56
this is over. Yeah. Yo, make a fourth diss track. That's a fourth diss track. Yo, listen. When you just got money to
- 1:02:01
play with, you got to leave these [ __ ] alone. Yo, [ __ ] be bored. Just You got to leave these [ __ ] alone cuz
- 1:02:07
you got to think about the money that and the time that Cam took to put all of this together. Yeah. The other people,
- 1:02:12
you got to commend them. Yo. Yeah, that [ __ ] is You got to commend the dedication to that level of pettiness. I agree.
- 1:02:20
But Cam is from a different he's a school of it's him and his 50 and maybe
- 1:02:25
one [ __ ] I'm forgetting and Aelia Banks maybe and she ain't even on this level.
- 1:02:30
Yeah. To book you for a movie. That means somebody came up with a script. I seen I seen him do the part [ __ ]
- 1:02:36
Yeah, I watched it. They rented a a place for these [ __ ] to re Yo, you got to think about all of that [ __ ] that
- 1:02:42
went into this. And I'm not going to hurt you. Yeah. No, I'm doing I got you in this compromising situation
- 1:02:50
strictly for laughs and giggles. We don't want to hurt you. Exposing this [ __ ] I was keeping that in the tub.
- 1:02:57
Let you jump out the window. He knew he had to have known. Yo, bro. My thing is whatever disc Omar Gooding
- 1:03:02
put out after that. Keep it. It don't even matter. It was a solid disc. It matter. It matters though. It don't
- 1:03:07
matter. This one is over. What Omar tried to say and he cuz he went on Instagram right after and then he also made the diss track basically
- 1:03:13
saying like on on the on the Instagram he was like I don't care. Basically like you g I got you put money in my pocket.
- 1:03:19
You flew me to Miami. You know whatever. Wrong response. Yeah. Very wrong. I'm with you.
- 1:03:24
Omar goodness is too old to even think that you could get that response off.
- 1:03:31
It's over though. And then the diss track he was like you know you you paying [ __ ] money to watch him get undressed behind the mirror. Yes. It ain't going to work
- 1:03:38
though. Yeah, I did. He did his I'm just saying it. He did the best he could. There's nothing you can do.
- 1:03:43
Tap out. It's over. It's over. Yo, you know what? You got to take your L. Shut the [ __ ] up. Keep on
- 1:03:49
walking. It's CC Penniston time. There's nothing. There's nothing to be done. Even in the video, his response,
- 1:03:54
he's like, "Bro, you trying to clown me?" Oh god, I got paid. I got paid.
- 1:03:59
You don't even hear yourself. All money ain't good money. All money ain't good
- 1:04:05
money. Whatever you did with that 2700, it wasn't worth it.
- 1:04:11
If he hit the [ __ ] with a 50 piece, it's still not good money, but he could
- 1:04:16
take the stance to I don't give a [ __ ] Yo, I went outside for took my shirt off for $50,000. Yeah. For three three hours and got 50
- 1:04:22
grand. My [ __ ] was 3,000. Hey, some [ __ ] is down with the
- 1:04:27
emasculation of themselves. Yeah. Like like like that [ __ ] got some Travis Scott.
- 1:04:33
Oh [ __ ] Yo, he ain't do nothing with that 2700. That that [ __ ] went bought a couple kicks,
- 1:04:39
tank tops, some H. You could look at him and tell typing some Hannes se threeacks. The [ __ ] went to Target or
- 1:04:45
somewhere black joints. Yeah. Some long johns. He ain't buying nothing of importance with that 2700.
- 1:04:52
And you know it's bad cuz on on his reply he said, "Yo, my friends are hitting me." He said that part.
- 1:04:57
Yeah. He said, "My friends are hitting me saying, "Yo, dog, what are you doing?" But I don't care. I got paid.
- 1:05:05
No, you don't. Yo, you know the thing about Yo, let me tell you something about male friends. Mhm. We care about what our friend. That's
- 1:05:12
why he's our friend. And they wasn't what you doing. They was hitting you like, "Yo, what are you doing?
- 1:05:18
Are you all right, my nigga?" Like, we this is a wellness check now. If you yo, as a male friend,
- 1:05:24
if you woke up, if you woke up and 10 of your male friends was on your line at
- 1:05:29
the same time from something they seen on the internet, it's not a good day at all. It's not a good day.
- 1:05:36
It's a It's a bad The thing The thing I didn't understand from the beginning was why he was sniffing out this this this
- 1:05:41
feud in the first place. I mean, you couldn't be that mad that somebody called you. I think he wanted to show the world that he could really rap.
- 1:05:47
It's a good way to let the world know you can rap. And and that's what it feels like. It's like you picked the wrong [ __ ] to do that with. He didn't know.
- 1:05:52
He got to know your opponent though, bro. N. Well, he might have thought to himself,
- 1:05:59
maybe I can rap better than him. There's nothing that could be done here.
- 1:06:04
Right. He not a He's not a a full-time rapper. He's on some fun time. So, he don't know
- 1:06:09
that you could lose the rap battle from something that wasn't rap at all. Yeah.
- 1:06:15
And he also might have thought, if you if you diss me, My bad. If you diss a rapper in my day anyway. All
- 1:06:21
right. You got it off. Oh [ __ ] The bars are hard. And now you go to shot 97
- 1:06:26
and we park the [ __ ] Magnum station wagons across the street and
- 1:06:32
we can miss. No. Guess the headline going to say, "Hey, they shot that bum [ __ ] off the block.
- 1:06:40
Battle was over. Your Hey, you bars was crazy.
- 1:06:46
But yeah. Hey, we caught him on the AB stripped naked
- 1:06:52
2112 and they was coming down.
- 1:06:58
They took it took his chain, melted it down, took his pants off, made him walk back with his on sleep.
- 1:07:05
Hey [ __ ] walk home on sleep. Yo, come on. Jersey City [ __ ] used to cut you a crown. Take it all off and walk home.
- 1:07:13
Like, yeah, I seen some [ __ ] from a different part of the world, right? They strip some [ __ ] negative on some on
- 1:07:18
some video. [ __ ] from the middle of the country talking about, "Oh, y'all gay. Where they do that at?" Hey, Jersey City.
- 1:07:24
Hey, Jersey City. A lot of places. Jersey City, New Jersey. LA. LA. Let me be the first one.
- 1:07:30
Oh, yeah. In LA, they do it. All the hoods. In New York, they do it. All the hoods, [ __ ] And they going to rip your pants pockets
- 1:07:36
off. If you lose the fight and went home dressed, consider it a good day.
- 1:07:42
Yeah. [ __ ] take take all that off, [ __ ] Oh, wow. Anyway, the last piece of this,
- 1:07:49
a lot of people were surprised that he would take that amount of money. I think people don't know how little most actors
- 1:07:54
make for jobs. They don't know. No, they don't know the state of the economy. And I'mma [ __ ] one of y'all [ __ ] up out there talking about Mark
- 1:08:00
working at the Joe Buddton podcast is a clear indicator that a recession is on the way. I'mma [ __ ] y'all up out of
- 1:08:06
here. I don't think y'all [ __ ] is funny, but the state of the economy is [ __ ] up. It is. If I could get 25, 35, $4,500, I
- 1:08:13
ain't gonna act like I'm above for three hours of work. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you're gonna do it. I know actors that do it for I mean, I've produced things where you pay for
- 1:08:18
somebody $500. I was thinking God it was Omar and not my good sis. Oh my god. [ __ ] Cam. We
- 1:08:28
got a free trip to Miami and a movie. They have got my baby.
- 1:08:34
No, they wouldn't. They got my baby, girl. No, they wouldn't. I My biggest question is where is his [ __ ] agent?
- 1:08:40
Where's his agent? Why didn't his agent vet this? Talk about it. But but again, these were real movies don't want to pay their agent.
- 1:08:45
It was a real director. It was real producers. And it sounds like there's at least enough script to be able to say, "Here,
- 1:08:50
here's what he's going to be doing." I mean, and if you're not doing a lot of work right now, yo, he said, "Yo, here, my nigga."
- 1:08:56
He said actors was speaking in Spanish about him while he was
- 1:09:02
He said it was you, [ __ ] Why you doing sitting there doing push-ups? Can you imagine? Right. It was just a read,
- 1:09:09
right? Yeah. On the bright side to Omar, this is the most Omar's probably been talked about in since baby boy.
- 1:09:15
Yeah. In a while. I don't want to be talking about I don't want to be talking about like I don't think I remember a bigger L than
- 1:09:20
than this in recent years. Yeah, dog. Cam Cam is nuts, my [ __ ]
- 1:09:26
Yo, you got a warehouse. You hired other [ __ ] You had a script. You had
- 1:09:32
You had to lay this out, bro. This is diabolical. Y'all do y'all ever have aspirations of [ __ ] I think about petty [ __ ] Did I
- 1:09:38
text you this week about some petty [ __ ] I wanted to do? Dr. Mark Lamont Hill. If I tell these
- 1:09:43
people what you text me, he's not I'm a crazy person. You need a lot of help. You need help.
- 1:09:49
But you agreed with me. He need help, too. That ain't
- 1:09:55
You didn't support it. To be clear, you didn't support it, but you you acknowledged that that would be some elite petty [ __ ] to do.
- 1:10:00
Hey, we're less different than we are alike. I I I identified with the sentiment. Yes. But you was on some uh without
- 1:10:08
sharing too much. Let's make it happen. Yeah. I had my wheels.
- 1:10:13
Yes. That's what I'm saying. He had his wheels turning to figure out how to get this done. Oh yeah, I knew it.
- 1:10:20
Yeah. Mark want about it. I know. You know what he want to do. I want to do nice things for the people.
- 1:10:26
But um do y'all think about like extreme petty [ __ ] to do all the time?
- 1:10:31
Okay. It's not just me. All the time. No. Yes. No, I believe Mel.
- 1:10:38
Why? Because the fact based on what? I don't think Mel thinks that long term about things
- 1:10:45
these days. No, I don't. I don't have the capacity to ruminate like that. I'm talking in terms of I think Mel would respond to some [ __ ] immediately.
- 1:10:51
I don't think Mel is going to plot a two-year plan to destroy somebody. She No, I let karma do its thing.
- 1:10:56
She's clapped back way after the fact plenty of times. Legendary. She hold a grudge. She hate [ __ ] back
- 1:11:01
from 30 years ago. Like she hold a grudge. That's not exactly true. Memory shock, too. But I do hold a grudge.
- 1:11:06
I think the best killer of all that is just is just success. Success. I saw somebody say that sounds I love I
- 1:11:12
love when I love when people learn that I meant what I said. Like I saw somebody say that and was like,
- 1:11:18
"Me, too." That's a good one. Me, too. All I got to do is is say what I'm doing and go and go move and be on
- 1:11:24
that and that's the end of that. Or you don't say anything and just let karma do its thing. And sometimes karma
- 1:11:31
is not like evil, you know, they don't end up with a disease or dead or whatever the case is. They just end up,
- 1:11:37
you know, she them just seeing you.
- 1:11:42
Yeah. And you're doing so much better than they are. I like to give Karma a little affirmative action. I like to just give a little a little extra nudge.
- 1:11:49
Had a [ __ ] doing a warm, you know what I mean? Like sometimes at that moment being sweet and
- 1:11:55
nice and kind twists the knife. It does. Oh, for sure. Yeah, for sure. I get off on it.
- 1:12:00
That is true. And I've had several of those moments in my life. Why I didn't have to do anything.
- 1:12:06
Flip, are you on my side or male's side? Um, neither. You're not really a You're not really a
- 1:12:11
revenge kind of person. No, I am, but different different type of revenge. Yeah, but I understand what you're saying. Yeah,
- 1:12:17
I share that with you. Yeah, I get that. Not petty. Like my revenge is You're hella You're hella reactive. If
- 1:12:23
something happens, you're reacting right away. Yeah. You said what, Joe? If Mayo is around.
- 1:12:28
What do you mean Mayo's around? I said you're hella reactive if Mayo. I'm reactive with anybody with anywhere.
- 1:12:34
Watch your [ __ ] mouth. Mayo is there. [ __ ] watch your [ __ ] mouth. I'm wrong. I'm sorry. Yeah, watch your mouth. Shout out to man. That's my man. Watch your mouth.
- 1:12:40
My man seen him. But yeah, before he stepped up. Stepped before he stepped up. And what did I say?
- 1:12:46
You was mumbling. Watch your show. I'm joking. Chill. I'm joking. I'm
- 1:12:51
joking. What I'm saying? No. No. Listen. I am reactive. Yes. Yes. But I mean
- 1:12:56
reactive people can fall on the other side of somebody being petty to get me back. I could fall on the other side of you
- 1:13:02
see how you said you petty. Yeah. If I reacting instantly somebody could feel like how you feel. I'm going to get
- 1:13:07
him back and you know give me the other side of that coin. Uh not do y'all think y'all could do that to somebody. Do you
- 1:13:13
think that somebody could get something like that off on y'all? No. No. Not with me. Yeah. I think so. I think we all
- 1:13:19
vulnerable to that. It it depend if they find what you if they find what your thing is. Yeah. Yeah. The vulnerability
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if they handle if they carry it right because the way to carry it is to not say [ __ ] to act like everything is cool and then just strike. Yeah. Yeah. That's
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what I'm saying. Yeah. And that's how I move. I don't actually do the petty. I just like to think of it. Oh, that's what I'm saying. I think it I don't act. I ain't trying to do no harm
- 1:13:38
to anybody, but I like to think about it. But um I got some petty [ __ ] in my head right now.
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Right now. 15 years ago, I'd have been petty. I I' I'd have been petty 15 years ago. Now I
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I can't do it today. Time is too valuable. 15 years ago, I'd have bought all our calendars
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the whole ship in gave them out. Oh [ __ ] my [ __ ] is moving off the rack,
- 1:14:02
[ __ ] No, it ain't. That's me. [ __ ] got calendars on the phone. Hello.
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I know. See, it's the same thing. Camp campaign. Hey, to be real, Betty, you're going to spend some.
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Yo, you need research. No, cuz that's the best. You're going to spend some. That's how you That's the best [ __ ] I get it. It's
- 1:14:21
this a little different. If you think your calendar's move, you going to go order mad more calendars,
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dude. Sitting in your house through a whole six boxes in one day.
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Yo, give me 600 boxes, right? We up. That's funny. So, it's just I don't know. There's a way
- 1:14:38
that you can also cuz my wife watched the uh she and I were watching the the recaps of it on YouTube and she had a
- 1:14:43
different take on this. Her take was Cam it made Cam look too bothered like he look like like like like you're too
- 1:14:50
invested in this to do or like 50 buy in the first two rows of of J. For some people
- 1:14:55
it makes it look like you care too much. You should just chalk it up. You too big for that. It's not enough of them. It's more people laughing than there are people
- 1:15:01
saying you you there's more people laughing. There's more immature people like me. Yeah, I think that's right. I think that's right.
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Especially like like Cam is in the content world. So yeah, he is. This is feeding the streets.
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Yeah. You know what I'm saying? and helping and helping my brand at the same time. That was some of the hardest [ __ ] I've ever seen. I ain't going to lie.
- 1:15:17
That [ __ ] was amazing. It was It was It was Shout out Shout out to them. Definitely was. And like we said, and you know,
- 1:15:23
everybody was able to go home to their family. So that part. Yeah. True. Yeah. That's the best part. Mhm. Yeah. What a fun way to
- 1:15:29
That's the best part. What a fun way to be to And it's over. What a fun way to be in the '90s. That's true.
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Yeah. Joe, we gave some music takes up here uh while you were gone. Unfortunately,
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I knew you. Unfortunately, y'all did. What was your take on our takes?
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I mean, the little bit I agree with always get drowned out by just some gibberish.
- 1:15:54
Like, I don't know what y'all be doing to my brother Parks when I'm gone. What happened? Park don't be believing. I don't believe
- 1:16:01
that Parks believes what he says when I'm gone. Maybe that's when the only time he feels free. Cardi was killing.
- 1:16:07
I said killing. I don't think he said that. I don't know if I said killing. I think she did. All right. Me me me me me me me me me me me me me
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me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me and Mmani were basically like good bars, not good delivery. Other people said it's the delivery was good and they
- 1:16:18
thought she they they thought she came strong. I thought you were kind of in the middle of that. Like like I wasn't mad at it. I think Yeah, I'm
- 1:16:23
wasn't mad at the record. What What's Joe Button's take on it? She shouldn't do that again. Which don't do that again.
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Do what? Do the record. Dude, don't take any
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East Coast top three, four rapper
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beat classic song and redo that cuz Ammani was right. Even it's it's given
- 1:16:46
remnants of that because of the flow and the emulation and the pocket and what
- 1:16:51
you what you did. We're going to shout out the writers. The writers killed. This is not about the writers. The writers killed. I agree
- 1:16:58
with y'all that said this is well bars are there that wasn't enough
- 1:17:04
that delivery those punchins the punchins were
- 1:17:11
how choppy that was imaginary player for y'all that wasn't there
- 1:17:17
when that dropped was a much better rapper than that it was just fly because
- 1:17:22
of the cadence and the flow and what he was saying his aura and and voice
- 1:17:28
control and Cardi is in the same pitch, same tone, sounding choppy, not smooth.
- 1:17:36
Bars are there, but this is not the beat for that. And to prove myself,
- 1:17:41
I heard somebody and put it on Get Money. They put it on Get Money. I'm I'm mad at
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Get Money. Much better on Get Money. The Get Money. I wasn't mad at it. And that's because Get Money doesn't come with the flow and
- 1:17:56
the aura and sarcasm. It's It's very different. Uh let me find this thing. Here it is.
- 1:18:03
And take the links out. That's hard. That's hard right there. That's hard. That's hard. That's hard. Yeah.
- 1:18:08
It's only the the imaginary players beat that's making her sound like
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you shouldn't be on here. Yeah. You shouldn't be on here. I used to have a rule when I was rapping. Some beats
- 1:18:20
just they you got it. You got it. We don't need to do that. That's MC like for the culture talk.
- 1:18:27
Like no, this is too classic to touch. I don't think that she's in that ballpark.
- 1:18:33
I think she's in the ballpark of the hitmakers and them that'll take anything. Mhm. I also
- 1:18:39
making a bop if it's going to be I also don't think anybody has so much commentary if this is just released as a
- 1:18:45
freestyle. Okay. Yeah. As the second single album is
- 1:18:51
misjudging. Oh, it's a freestyle. Yeah. If this is a freestyle, but but there's sharks. There's Cardi seems to be
- 1:18:58
swimming in sharkinfested waters is why there's so many eyes and ears and
- 1:19:03
critics on it. Of course, her album is slated to drop next month. We at the end of August,
- 1:19:09
3 weeks from now. Yep. The first record. Yeah.
- 1:19:15
Now, we not hearing anything but this, which should be a freestyle. I'm certain that there'll be another record. There's
- 1:19:21
definitely be another record. I'm certain there'll be another record release before this. But listen, my take on this, I don't think that they'll let
- 1:19:27
Cardi fail because it's a reflection on them. I think they'll she'll win.
- 1:19:34
Absolutely. Because they made her win. I also think she's built up enough equity to get people to come press play
- 1:19:41
regardless. I totally disagree with that. I told not eight years later. Ah, not I disagree with you on I think
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her fans are fairly rabid. Yeah, I think so, too. She's out of here. I think there's 10 people in this room
- 1:19:53
alone that are going to go press play immediately. I'm going to press play immediately. Yeah, I'm going to press play. Second to drop. Yeah.
- 1:19:59
Oh, yeah. We shall see. It It doesn't appear that way. Uh
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longevity is a different question. We not on longevity with somebody that's taken eight years between albums,
- 1:20:10
right? We we dealing with what it is, which is what do y'all see from her
- 1:20:15
that's giving y'all confidence in
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this what she's going to do here. I I think what you'll hear here for me it's a divided response on the internet. Some
- 1:20:26
people there's the people who hate this right just just on this song alone but there's people who are like living and
- 1:20:32
diet by it. People are making uh Instagrams off of it. People who are making Tik Tok. Yeah. I think there's a a core base of
- 1:20:38
people that are going to I I think this is going to move some some solid units. But is the core enough? What does it look like? What is that first See, cuz that's where I'm at. What
- 1:20:44
is that first week look like? What I'm talking about is the difference between 120,000 people. I'm saying eight years
- 1:20:52
on break. You lost 100,000 people. I think Cody's doing two off 250 the
- 1:20:58
first week. Oh, I I I don't see that. I don't Two is a lot. No, I don't. Y'all
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there's nothing that shows that right now. I think that y'all are are
- 1:21:09
you was on your phone. Girls are taking this on. This [ __ ] is all over
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Instagram. This [ __ ] is all on all everybody's memes and reals and all of that. So, I don't know if that's
- 1:21:20
I think you're also uh uh mistaking quality of music and equity and interest from the public. I think that people
- 1:21:27
will go press play just because it's even just the hate on it. I think people will go press even what you saying like
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yo the punches and all of that [ __ ] Y'all heard the punches. I didn't. No, I heard. Yeah.
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You get what I'm saying? Like, yo, the average person didn't hear that. And the average person not looking. They just don't know to call them
- 1:21:44
punches. But when they say it wasn't smooth, they're talking. That's what they're saying. Got you.
- 1:21:50
I don't know. Listen, if I'm wrong, I'll be the first to come here and say it. But y'all, I say for 10 years on this podcast, we
- 1:21:57
sleep on how difficult it is to sell one of something. Agree. Gunner just sold 80,000 with good
- 1:22:03
music with people anticipating good music. The clips rolling out for however many years
- 1:22:09
did a buck 20 something. I mean not rolling out for years but I'm saying Louis Vuitton runway. They was
- 1:22:15
everywhere they needed to be. One of the best rollouts we've seen. Like it's just tough to sell. What did Nikki do last
- 1:22:20
time with that? Everybody. What was that first week? She did. He went crazy. But it was like a buck 78 or something.
- 1:22:28
I'll tell you. I think it was I don't think it was more than that. Yeah. Well, tell me what it is cuz I don't I don't know. But what I'm saying is 8
- 1:22:35
years in between. Your star power is hidden everywhere else outside of music.
- 1:22:42
Y'all are asking a lot to say 250. If she drops a bop right after this, I think she's going to
- 1:22:47
Yeah, her first week was 228. 228. That's about the zone I see Cardi in. I don't see Oh, hell no. Somewhere between 2 and
- 1:22:53
250. I see two things is missing. One, Nikki had a record. I'm not I don't even want to compare them. Let's move Nikki out of this. I don't see any record or anything
- 1:23:02
outside didn't work. We can call it. We can just tell the truth. Agreed. This record here, I think the fact that
- 1:23:09
it's a Jay-Z sample is going to make people rush to hear it, whether you to hate it, like it, see what you did over
- 1:23:15
the Jay-Z sample. Cool. Are there any projections of of what this album what the song is um doing
- 1:23:22
right now? Like, did it debut on the chart? Anyway, I'm not sure. It debuted on the chart at like and I'm freestyling 147
- 1:23:28
and then the second week it dropped out. Yeah. Yeah. See like but you don't think anybody should be tracking chart position.
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I don't I don't you know I don't use that should have been a freestyle. I don't use that for anything. I just I'm just there. I'm saying that because we're having a numbers talk right now,
- 1:23:40
right? There's nothing We're 3 weeks out from this album. There's nothing that they've done so far
- 1:23:46
that's showing that's sticking. Yeah. Let me advance the conversation. Ain't nothing there. I I want to I want to stay where Freeze is and advance this
- 1:23:53
conversation a little bit. If if she's an artist that will sell 250
- 1:23:58
week one, the label would know it at this point and where the clock is. And if they knew that, we would be seeing
- 1:24:06
something different than what we're seeing right now. I still think that's coming. Personally, I think she's getting ready to do I
- 1:24:14
think the roll out all of that. That's what I'm saying. I think all that's happening for her roll out. I just think
- 1:24:19
it's much closer to album. September 12th is fashion week. September 19th is the album.
- 1:24:25
Yeah. So I think I think we got a lot of [ __ ] fashion. I got the last album you have
- 1:24:31
seen your purchasing power was 8 years ago. I'm not talking about your star
- 1:24:37
power and times is different. Eight years ago, the last time you saw your purchasing
- 1:24:43
audience buy I don't care what's going on on TikTok. That's label moving around
- 1:24:49
and and you have to get to the purchasing or streaming fan base.
- 1:24:54
Hold on a minute. You have to get to those people, not the people that want to play you on the Tik Tok. Put your
- 1:25:00
[ __ ] over here. You got to get to the people that's going to be there. I just ain't seen enough to say that she's
- 1:25:05
warranting 250. I don't see 250. What's your projection? What's What's your projection as of now? What would you say
- 1:25:11
off of off just who she be? I give her between 120 and 180.
- 1:25:17
I'm I'm with that. I mean, that ain't that I was saying 150, but if she does 180, my [ __ ] after not having a project
- 1:25:23
come out for eight years, that's a win. Yeah. I don't think that's I don't I don't think the win is in what comes
- 1:25:29
back for her because I think the label has their mind made up made up to distance themselves from her. This is
- 1:25:34
strictly a Joe Button freestyle. I think the label is getting away from her after this no matter what.
- 1:25:39
Are we questioning do that 2 to 250 the first week? If she does 300 the first week, are we questioning the quality of the
- 1:25:45
artist though, Joe? Cuz wouldn't like Frank Ocean or one of them [ __ ] take long breaks like that and then come back and sell.
- 1:25:51
That's different. That's what I'm saying. So we talk about the quality of the artist. Yes. And the narrative about the artist. Some
- 1:25:58
artists are expected to to kind of do that. So but we can't say is when Joe say 8 year break. He's talking about Cardi B
- 1:26:05
the artist. You're not talking cuz people have done that and and Oh, sure.
- 1:26:11
Yes. But I don't think she's in there cooking up a classic what happens with Frank Ocean or someone
- 1:26:17
else like that is sitting for the fact that you got a freestyle 3 weeks from this album should be scary
- 1:26:22
time. Yeah, that's a scary sign. You calling it a freestyle. I think this is a uh an intentional oop.
- 1:26:29
I think this was a the club [ __ ] ain't really working all the way for me. Let me give it one where I'm just talking my [ __ ] off and then I'm going to come back with it.
- 1:26:36
Not off a flop. All right. Not off not off something that the metrics or the label or the people are saying is a flop. I'm not
- 1:26:42
coming off the flop with yo I'm not even this. No. And there's that narrative out there, bro. There's that narrative like that's
- 1:26:48
been said for a minute like yo she won't drop because that [ __ ] was lightning in a bottle
- 1:26:56
jinx conversation hanging in there. There's been that she's afraid to drop conversation. Not saying I agree, but
- 1:27:01
there's been that. So yeah, the freestyle the record. Well, not a freestyle, but I don't think Imaginary Players is the record to do
- 1:27:09
after your first single. Hey, I'm back. I'm finally dropping. Here's my single That Flop. Forget Forget the music and
- 1:27:16
what the numbers look like. And I'll say this somewhat in closing. I just want to see what the press look like that you do that she does.
- 1:27:23
You going to see that she's doing fashion week? I keep telling me about fashion week and hip-hop. I'm not even talking about
- 1:27:29
fashion week. I'm not saying I'm just I don't think she will be visible. I think you're going to see Jimmy Fallon
- 1:27:36
Galifanakis. I think you'll see some they just had her at Summerslam. NFL is about to start. If you think you
- 1:27:43
won't see her somewhere along like they're about to use her and everything major that's happening from here until
- 1:27:49
that album drop. You're going to see her. They're going to put her in in front of your eyes hopefully. And if that happens, I'll
- 1:27:55
come in here and say I'm wrong. But if I'm sticking to my theory, which I am, okay, which is that the label is going to
- 1:28:01
distance themselves from her. Still don't mean you don't want your ROI. Yes, it does. That's exactly what it
- 1:28:07
means. We We're not about to build you up knowing that we're going to create distance for your value to be high going
- 1:28:13
somewhere else. That's just an ancient record label thing. They're not going to do that. But they're not going to let her lose cuz it's a reflection on the
- 1:28:18
new people in the building. So, it's a slippery slope. We will see. I don't have between 2 and 250. If I'm
- 1:28:24
wrong, then please I don't have 200 anything. We'll see. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see. We getting there.
- 1:28:29
Breezy Bowl. Am I the only person that didn't go? I I feel like I'm the only person in the planet that didn't go. You You went I saw again.
- 1:28:37
Would you make it a concert? Um I've I enjoyed the concert. Let me
- 1:28:43
start there. I enjoyed the concert. My main takeaway is cuz I went on the
- 1:28:49
second night. I went on a Wednesday night. He was there Tuesday and Wednesday. I went Wednesday. Went. There was rain. Mhm.
- 1:28:54
So there was a rain delay and that rain delay was over an hour.
- 1:29:00
Yeah. So after that, I'm thankful for that. Then Bryson Tiller hit the stage. Then Summer Walker hit the stage with normal
- 1:29:06
sets. Cuz they kept everybody out of Medife during the rain delay. It was lightning. You can't be in the
- 1:29:12
studio. They cleared that [ __ ] So people would just stand wherever they stand in anywhere on the levels. Back to
- 1:29:18
when they let everybody in. Cool. And Chris Brown went out there and did his entire set, which was 3 hours.
- 1:29:25
So, we're talking about a 4 hour show. My god. He was on stage still at 12:45 a.m.
- 1:29:31
Wow. I'm too old for that. Concert goers got there at 6:00 and 7.
- 1:29:36
Yeah. So, I want to tell Chris Brown, you don't have to do that.
- 1:29:44
You know, Chris Brown has way too many songs
- 1:29:49
and he did all of them with the exception of Autumn Leaves, which I don't understand. I didn't hear Autumn
- 1:29:54
Leaves. I didn't hear Autumn Leaves and I don't get why he wouldn't do Autumn Leaves. Or maybe I missed it cuz he just did so
- 1:30:00
much. He didn't do it. I made I made the playlist of everything he did. I actually have the playlist cuz his set was so long that I was bothering the
- 1:30:07
security girl in front of me saying, "Let me see that set list again so I can see where he is in this threeh hour."
- 1:30:13
Jesus, Chris Brown, we love you. You're the man and we told your man to pre you the man.
- 1:30:19
We ain't got to do that. Hey, that's all I wanted to say. I was so mad I couldn't come to work and
- 1:30:24
say thank you for your service and you don't have to do that. [ __ ] what Joe talking about.
- 1:30:31
Yeah, cuz all us there was out there. We were do that. Continue to do that. If I was
- 1:30:36
here Saturday, I'm going I would go again. Did everybody stay till the end? I didn't. No. Yes. No, they did not. No, they did not.
- 1:30:43
I'm talking about the Wednesday night. I'm talking about the Wednesday night. We was on the same night. Yeah. I'm asking my mom took video cuz
- 1:30:49
my mom is there. She can't stay here till 2:00 in the [ __ ] morning. Your mother and stayed cuz I saw we
- 1:30:55
their section was right behind like I saw them on the walk out. I gave everybody a hug. They left out when no
- 1:31:00
guidance was on. He did two songs after that and then the fireworks went off. That's the end of the show. So people
- 1:31:08
that that last se section people when my mom left she was in her car taping that's when fireworks going off in there
- 1:31:15
but there were other people leaving. I'm not saying it was a bunch because it's met life. No some people left because people was putting it on their gram like yo my
- 1:31:21
[ __ ] he people got to work he's still going. I'm tight but the rain they blame it on the rain delay. Let him [ __ ] go.
- 1:31:27
You got to think the rain delay took people out stayed in for an hour. Well if this was the first night maybe I
- 1:31:33
don't have the problem. No no no. They said the first night he did more songs. Yeah, I don't have time for all this
- 1:31:38
Chris Brown. They said the first night Chris Brown watching Chris Brown perform made me want to leave early and play
- 1:31:45
Chris Brown. I want to go play these songs. You He put on a great show. He flying
- 1:31:51
around. Listen. Yo, my [ __ ] 4 hours of a concert everybody.
- 1:31:57
He gave everybody their money's worth. He played all the hits. He played all the smashers. Everybody that I know for
- 1:32:03
the most part is siding with Ice. You don't have to do all that. I've been to shows where
- 1:32:09
it's like, damn, yo, they ain't do this, they do this, they ain't do this, they do this, they do this, they do this. Like, like the set felt short. I've been
- 1:32:16
to shows where somebody gave you, a half an hour, 40 minutes, an hour set,
- 1:32:22
dog. It's the same thing with this album, Chris. We we're expecting longer than
- 1:32:28
normal because this is a 20 year anniversary. Absolutely. This is a 20 year anniversary in this
- 1:32:34
Breezy Bowl in stadiums. Yeah. You don't have to do that. I don't know where for you.
- 1:32:40
Yo, even in just thinking about the artist, right? Like in normal artist
- 1:32:45
language, you wouldn't do that. He doing some alien [ __ ] Yeah, true. So, he should be credited for that. But
- 1:32:53
most vocalists like I'm in the back. I'm backstage. I'm I'm talking to the people about what he's going through just for
- 1:33:00
his voice with his tea regimen and this and the pro code or whatever he's doing
- 1:33:06
to maintain his voice. I think uh the mic went out or the tea wasn't there the first night he was mad about. So 3 hours
- 1:33:13
and the course of this tour. Somebody would normally advise against this.
- 1:33:19
Against that. That's true. Well, he's doing You think a good show should stop short of three hours? Nah, he he he he's doing it right,
- 1:33:24
though. If you watch If you pay attention, it's it's TV track, but what's like the level of above a TV
- 1:33:31
track? No, TV track is but it's it's it's it's not your usual TV track like it's it's more vocal.
- 1:33:36
It's a TV track with more vocals. Yeah, there we go. What's What's a TV track for the people? Well, they take out uh the leads and you
- 1:33:42
just do that, but the backgrounds are still in there, so it still sounds like the record. Feels like the record. Oh god. He's not for me. He's doing more dancing
- 1:33:48
than singing. Yes, I can go to these because I know these songs and the
- 1:33:55
performance and the dancing is immaculate. So awesome. I'm not knocking it, but it's not what you want.
- 1:34:01
I'm I'm there for the song. The song like the live rendition. He
- 1:34:06
can't he back flipping and flying, but he can't he can't get up there. And you can't do that if you plan on
- 1:34:12
doing a threehour show every night. Every night he picks and choose the records. Not just that, my [ __ ] He put 82,000
- 1:34:19
people in that building two nights in a row. [ __ ] don't want to go there and hear you sit on a [ __ ] stool
- 1:34:24
and sing. [ __ ] want a show. [ __ ] want a show, my [ __ ] Like, so his show is carrying the word for
- 1:34:32
everybody else in the next cities to be like, "Y'all heard the show was amazing. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going." He's self-promoting his own tour.
- 1:34:39
But the show was great. Show was amazing. Show was great. I want to shout out Summer Walker. Her
- 1:34:44
show has dramatically improved. We know about all of the all of the uh critiques
- 1:34:50
that came with her earlier performances live. She did great. Shout out to Bryson. Everybody did great. It was a
- 1:34:56
good energy in the building. Good vibe. Shout out to the DJ. Shout out to Yo, that's the other thing. See, no. Shout
- 1:35:02
out to the DJ. No, no, no. Shout out to the DJ. Chris Brown performed three hours of
- 1:35:08
songs and at some point the DJ came out to and brought him out to do all the
- 1:35:14
songs that wasn't on the list. The DJ The DJ came out and was like,
- 1:35:19
"Yo, I'm going to do a set of records that he's he's not performing." So, he just started doing that.
- 1:35:24
Now, I enjoyed that cuz his new record is there. So, that's my song. So, he did the new record
- 1:35:30
during that DJ set. Oh, yeah. The second during that DJ set is what I'm saying. And these things have to happen cuz he
- 1:35:36
did so many outfit changes. All right. He did so many outfit changes. So, yeah,
- 1:35:41
we got to get this break. But it was a lot. It was a lot. That's a lot of perform 111. You perform you per when
- 1:35:49
you performed, right? Wasn't it you performed for a long time? This is just going to lead to a Joe Button performance jokes.
- 1:35:55
I was going to say how do we get a joke? You know, we say that, but as I was
- 1:36:01
watching the show, I was like, "Yo, I've performed here." Like, and even that
- 1:36:07
15minute set that we had at some of your 10-minute whatever it was, [ __ ] we was a little tired. big ass
- 1:36:12
stage having to control and command that much stage is a little different though.
- 1:36:19
But that's my point. Like Chris Brown is in tremendous shape. Yeah, he is. Chris Brown is in tremendous shape to be
- 1:36:26
able to do the things that he was doing. Also, stupid ass internet fans, I'm at the show. I laughed when uh he did the
- 1:36:33
couch scene on top of the girl and when it got to the kiss party, cut the camera off. Look what y'all did. Internet, you [ __ ] it up. You [ __ ] it up now
- 1:36:39
trying to tape him and make him look like a creep kissing on a girl. You're damn right I'm kissing on the girls and cut the camera off while I get this kiss
- 1:36:44
off. Oh my god. Good show. Good show
- 1:36:50
nonetheless. Good show nonetheless. Shout out to the breezy. Yeah. Now shout out to Chris Brown. I wanted to try and hang out backstage
- 1:36:56
after the show, but I will be 45 years old. [ __ ] I looked at the clock.
- 1:37:03
Be lined out that [ __ ] soon as the show. I'm looking at the set list. I'm like, I want to see fine China. I don't care about the rest, but I want to see FH.
- 1:37:09
This [ __ ] do one verse of F John. I was like, man, baby, we out.
- 1:37:14
And I want to shout out New Jersey. I ain't going to lie. I want to shout out New Jersey.
- 1:37:20
Yeah, that's weird. Seeing it. Seeing it. You could rep it
- 1:37:26
and say I'm from here, so New Jersey. New, but seeing New Jersey pop out top
- 1:37:32
to bottom. Just two nights, all these different hoods. We did it for Tyler. Anytime. Jersey is
- 1:37:39
a nice stop for you artists that's doing that. When Travis came here, it was a movie. Well, well, the thing is they ain't got
- 1:37:46
no Well, they got what? City Field over there, but they ain't doing no concerts there. Yeah, ain't no stadium. If you if you
- 1:37:53
hit stadium status, you got to come to Jersey. Jersey showed up and showed out and [ __ ] ops was up in there. You know
- 1:38:00
what I mean? We going we going to get to Freddy and Benny uh seeing each other at the airport. But the Chris Brown concert
- 1:38:07
is is a essential your op your op was there. Everybody was there.
- 1:38:12
Now what you going to do when [ __ ] Residuals is on sing and he's right next to you just sing in
- 1:38:18
harmony [ __ ] Get boys the midlight. He's singing too. [ __ ] you talking about? Everybody was in there singing
- 1:38:24
micro snuck the [ __ ] out of you but build you up. Here you are this time
- 1:38:30
going all the way. Let me see you [ __ ] Tell me who
- 1:38:36
going to shoot. I'm going to say the shout out to Jersey. The four concerts I've been to
- 1:38:42
Betlight this summer. Maybe it was only three. Whatever it was, it was pretty smooth getting in and out. So, I do want to give y'all props for that.
- 1:38:48
No, you got to shout. I got to shout. Jersey was strong in that building. Shout out to Jersey. Yo,
- 1:38:54
a bunch of M. A lot of fat [ __ ] That's the thing. See, to appeal,
- 1:39:01
you don't think that you're selling out Mad Life without fat [ __ ] do you? I don't think you're a male R&B artist
- 1:39:08
on the planet with that level of accolades. Watch out your [ __ ] mouth, [ __ ] The fat girls is coming outside, [ __ ]
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They and I heavy, [ __ ] Speaking of speaking of But listen, I I was giving you both
- 1:39:20
sides. Hold up. You remember Club Cayenne? Club Cayenne? No. [ __ ]
- 1:39:26
You remember? Yeah. You thought you had a friend? I did. I did.
- 1:39:31
What's the other side of the fat [ __ ] The baddies were there too now. Butt ass. Naked.
- 1:39:36
They they was naked. They didn't open the weather app. Cuz when I was outside waiting on my tickets,
- 1:39:41
Joe, they didn't. They was. They was storming on this [ __ ] Almost like some Nickelodeon [ __ ]
- 1:39:49
Oh my god. Her ass was out. Tit was out. cuz I'm watching from the window but not too much now cuz my baby but yeah dirty
- 1:39:57
foot having [ __ ] wet t-shirt the t-shirt is cool but you a foot guy so you go look at that [ __ ] foot was
- 1:40:03
turning green like the Hulk in the water you know you know [ __ ] start changing color so the baddies fun guy
- 1:40:11
the baddies be lying to I can't get wet my head no you you metamorphosis hoe
- 1:40:19
these [ __ ] get wet and it's not the good wet the other Well, anyway. Oh, man. This guy's a
- 1:40:25
star melting. Anyway, yeah. Did y'all peep that uh Justin Bieber concert?
- 1:40:30
Yes. Concert. Oh, the fake Justin Bieber. Oh, I did see that [ __ ] was I did see that
- 1:40:36
in Vegas, right? Yeah. Dude, just like busted out, scammed the club, right? Got paid.
- 1:40:41
Was doing songs. I don't like that it was only 10 grand. We ain't going to commit you the fake.
- 1:40:46
It's Justin Bieber. Yeah, but he probably Vegas and Junior get five [ __ ]
- 1:40:52
Yeah, exactly. He got three of them Junior. Watch out.
- 1:40:57
They going to give you some bars. You can't rap. Right. True. I'm just joking. Nah, that Justin Bieber [ __ ] was
- 1:41:03
hilarious though. Like he was going crazy up there too. He was doing his thing. Yeah, he was performing.
- 1:41:08
Man, get our [ __ ] 10 bands, man. Yeah, let him go. Fake Elvis, fake Michael, fake everybody else. Get a bag. Let fake Justin get
- 1:41:14
some You should know you're going to see fake Elvis and fake Michael. That is true. They didn't know like he was just in the
- 1:41:20
spot. You think that people not know that the real Justin Bieber don't command more than $10,000.
- 1:41:25
There's that, but also like the entourage of people that he comes with, the people that represent him. It wasn't like he was he had a booked
- 1:41:32
show. The [ __ ] was in the club and you know how some some [ __ ] be in the club and yo, give me the mic.
- 1:41:37
Got it. Got it. It was one of those. And that is different. I could see how he'd get that off. He got them [ __ ] Why they paid them?
- 1:41:45
Tell them [ __ ] I want 10 grand for me to do some performance. I'll go up I'll go up there real quick. Yo give me 10. I'll go do it right now.
- 1:41:51
Yeah, they'll do it. Well, he performed. [ __ ] it, [ __ ] Give him his 10. He earned it.
- 1:41:59
Y'all said he killed [ __ ] Oh [ __ ] I saw a weapon. I was about to say you want to do
- 1:42:05
weapon. We've all seen it. I did go and see weapon. You still ain't see it? Skip. If you didn't, we here.
- 1:42:11
Yeah. Uh Did you
- 1:42:17
or did you watch the whole movie? No, I stayed awake throughout the whole thing. Okay. 1 to 10 cuz your face don't look that promising.
- 1:42:23
I mean, 6 and 1/2. Okay. Six and a half. It was It was white centers.
- 1:42:34
Tell me the difference. I haven't seen it. So, I'm Well, vampires. That's the difference.
- 1:42:40
I mean, that's that was a huge part of Sinners. Yeah. a huge part of sex. And these people were what?
- 1:42:45
We don't [ __ ] know what but they turn but they turn it turn they turned into something, right?
- 1:42:50
Yeah. They turned into something. Yeah. You ever smell white people when it rains?
- 1:42:56
No. Like do you think that what the black what what
- 1:43:01
what the black interpretation interpolation was would uh show the same
- 1:43:06
thing that the white uh exploitation would show. They turned into something is what I'm saying. He did turn into
- 1:43:12
something. We don't know. And you had to let him in. Mhm. Yeah.
- 1:43:17
Am I off? I felt like there was a Stop me when I'm off. You had to let him in. And these white people in this town
- 1:43:23
and these children because in the white version of Sinners, it's going to be kids and there's going to be no music. It's going to be bland. They turned into
- 1:43:29
some [ __ ] Everybody got [ __ ] up. I love the different point of views. I love the different point of views. But
- 1:43:34
the the in Sinners it was the two brothers and this one is my girl from Ozark who I love Julia. Josh Brolan.
- 1:43:42
Yeah, Thanos. Josh Brolan. I'm bad with the names, but I'm telling you, I I it was cool. I loved the
- 1:43:49
different point of view. So, but it was white sinners to me, which explains I didn't get that. I didn't get that at all.
- 1:43:55
I mean, either. Neither did I. Not even girl named aunt. What was her name? Agnes or some whatever. Yeah, whatever name.
- 1:44:02
Glattis. Glattus. Glattis. Yeah, that's a black name.
- 1:44:07
This was just a witch. Yeah, it was a witch. Yeah. I didn't I didn't get black sinners,
- 1:44:13
white centers out of that. Cool flick, man. Cool flick. What is a a eight or nine in
- 1:44:18
your book? Uh, are y'all of the impression that some of the songs are horror?
- 1:44:24
Yes. Yeah, all of them are horror. Some of those songs are amazing. A few of them saws are excellent. Final
- 1:44:31
written the plot. Not for me. I come from Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Return of the Living Dead,
- 1:44:36
some of the Freddy's, some of the Jason's, Pin Head, The Shining. Yo, that Hellraiser Hellrazer.
- 1:44:42
That first Hellraiser. That That first Hellraiser. That's what I'm saying. They don't Children of the
- 1:44:47
They don't make movies like that. That's how I feel about the first song. It was just one for me. That [ __ ] uh what's the [ __ ] I told
- 1:44:53
you I was at a chick house. Hostile. Hell no. And uh Paranormal Activity came
- 1:44:58
on. First one. The rings. Paranormal. I'm going holl at you next. The Conjuring. I don't even want no kind of horror.
- 1:45:03
I don't even want no bottom conjur.
- 1:45:10
That's got the last one. That's the Yeah, there's scary like jump scares and then there's horror where it's gore. It's like a gratuitous
- 1:45:17
warfest. I like weapons. I had a little bit of all of it. Is seven a horror flick? No.
- 1:45:22
No. It's a psychological very good movie. Very good movie. Seven is a good movie. It's more of a thriller is one of the
- 1:45:28
greatest movies ever. It was a very good, very well-written movie. Yeah. I come from real horror, man. This [ __ ] just real movies.
- 1:45:34
These [ __ ] today, they don't know horror. Okay. I have I have a question though about the end of the movie. Uh-huh.
- 1:45:41
So, when she died, the spell broke. Yeah.
- 1:45:46
So to speak, but they said only some of the kids have started talking
- 1:45:53
again. And then the little boy had to go live with another aunt because his parents were stayed catatonic.
- 1:45:59
But Josh Brolan, who was strangling Julia Garner at the time, he immediately
- 1:46:05
snaps out of it. Yeah, that's the part I didn't get. I was like, "So, who stays affected by this
- 1:46:10
shit?" She's dead. The kids been the kids and the parents been under that trance for a long amount of time. Okay.
- 1:46:15
It could be. So, yeah. It also could be that they were standing in front of a ripped apart old lady when they came back to being
- 1:46:21
Yeah, but the end voice made it seem like time goes on. So the little Alex goes and lives with another with his
- 1:46:28
aunt and whatnot. So and some of the kids are starting to talk and I
- 1:46:34
some of that is what made it whack to me. The whole class got missing.
- 1:46:39
Yeah. This one kid that showed up to work. Let's press this [ __ ]
- 1:46:45
They did. They did. They did. Not soon enough. Not soon enough. Because if you press him and just watch him, as it turns out,
- 1:46:53
that's where all the kids is at. We don't need a whole movie. That one house that y'all would that we seen.
- 1:46:59
But you saw what happened. I saw what happened. She was just like she the parents started gouging their faces out with
- 1:47:04
forks and he she was just like I can make them eat each other. Don't say don't work [ __ ] The kids is right
- 1:47:11
there. It took the cops a mighty long time to [ __ ] get to. Let's get to it. We know where the kids is at. Let's go.
- 1:47:16
Let's go. You see what happened in somebody find out?
- 1:47:21
Wrap them up. Poke the finger. Now you under my spell. And as soon as people got in there, then the the the climax
- 1:47:27
was was fast for me at the end. But it was cool because of the different points of views. If they don't if they don't do
- 1:47:32
all those points of views, we wrap this movie up in 30 minutes. Oh, for sure. For sure. Just around here. And it was a long It was kind of a
- 1:47:38
long movie. Two hours change. 2 hours and change. 2 hours like 15 minutes. They don't even make movies like that no
- 1:47:44
more. This long. [ __ ] The gist here was like people saying like seven out of 10, eight out of 10. What was yours? He said he said
- 1:47:51
I didn't I love that [ __ ] Yeah. I like it. I like it a lot, too. I'm also known on this podcast for having the absolute worst movie reviews
- 1:47:58
ever. So, I don't expect the public review to line up with my I'm a weirdo. Got you. You want to get to the smoke room?
- 1:48:03
Let's get I was about to say, let's get right to smoke. We was talking about Journey Smlette. Let's get talking about six and a halfs.
- 1:48:10
It was a six and a half to you. Yeah. Joe likes it. No, no, he's talking about the finale. The finale was I love the show.
- 1:48:16
He's talking about Listen, man. Anytime you go with the Fight Club ending,
- 1:48:22
it's already been done. Fight Club. I hate it when they did 10 movie. That's a 10. Another 10. It might be 12. It might be a 12.
- 1:48:30
I never seen anything. What? Wait, you never saw Fight Club? That's your homework. Yo, that's your homework. Get out. Get out. But he not
- 1:48:36
really the movie dude. I never saw Fight Club. He's never seen a lot of We understand. He's the football dude.
- 1:48:41
He got a lot of football opinions. He never saw Fight Club. You saw Devil's Egg. It's a good book. I saw Devil's.
- 1:48:47
Have you seen Heat? Um, no. Have you seen Casino? Yes. Good Fellas.
- 1:48:52
Of course. Color Purple. That's not Purple Rain. Star Wars.
- 1:48:58
Star Wars. Can get the [ __ ] out. I've never seen Star Wars. I never seen it either.
- 1:49:03
Watch your mother. Get it. Star Trek. Watch. No. No. I didn't. We We not under for 10
- 1:49:10
years. I kicked the back end of some of these people. Star Wars is the movie
- 1:49:15
version of the Beatles. J. No, the Beatles are good. Star Wars was good. Yeah, it worked.
- 1:49:21
Star Wars came out. You think Star Wars? I'm not a Star Wars guy. Star Wars. The first the first two were dope.
- 1:49:27
Star Trek. That's what I seen like the first couple Star Wars in the early8s. That [ __ ] was
- 1:49:32
something fire. Who directed them shits? George. We never heard from him again once.
- 1:49:38
Christopher Nolan turned 18. What you talking about? Once Christopher Nolan turned 18, I
- 1:49:44
ain't heard a peep about George Luc, [ __ ] Phantom of the Menace, all that [ __ ] that came out, [ __ ] That nigga's one
- 1:49:50
of the richest. We understand that. That's not my argument. That's not my argument. You have heard of him.
- 1:49:56
We understand that Jordan Peele is rich. We come in here and kick his movies in the back and all that. Jordan Peele is a welfare case compared
- 1:50:01
to All right, give me some more. Phantom of the Opera. All right. What else he did? What else? All the
- 1:50:07
Star Wars he did. I need more than that. Has a cult. I I need more than that. What else he did? Indiana Jones came up with Indiana Jones.
- 1:50:13
Yo, don't say his name again when I say Christopher Nolan. Oh, another Do me a favor. When I say Christopher Nolan, don't mention George
- 1:50:20
Lucas to me. If y'all saying what did y'all say? Field of Dreams. What did y'all say? I just pulled
- 1:50:25
You better pull up Christopher Nolan. Don't say George Lucas name again. I'mma keep it a buck with you. I did
- 1:50:30
just pull up uh Christopher Nolan. No, no, no. I pulled up Lucas now.
- 1:50:36
Listen, I pull up Christopher Nolan. We ain't got to do that. We ain't got to do that.
- 1:50:41
How come when I keep saying the god Christopher Nolan, they keep telling me about Star Trek.
- 1:50:46
He don't need to make nothing else, [ __ ] Star Wars is what it is, [ __ ] The Enterprise, [ __ ] Billions and billions of dollars. He doesn't need to
- 1:50:53
make anything else. We talking about good movies, though. Not about what they made. Talking about good movies. I don't think and this may
- 1:50:59
be a Joe button hot take when Christopher Nolan name come up George Lucas can go sit down a lot of [ __ ]
- 1:51:04
can go sit down when his name come George sit down I don't give a [ __ ] what moment don't want to tell me Batman
- 1:51:11
begins the prestige the dark knight inception dark knight rises interstellar Dunkirkenheimer
- 1:51:19
I said momento you did stop I started with his first one is followon
- 1:51:25
is lit but leave that [ __ ] alone don't disrespect. Don't say George Lucas name again. Don't say nothing wrong. No, but George Lucas paved the way for
- 1:51:31
these [ __ ] Yo, let me ask you. That's a run right there. Let me ask you a question.
- 1:51:36
I go look up his net worth. I don't care about that. We talking about I don't care about that. Quality work.
- 1:51:42
You always want to get to the I don't care about Lucas is caked up. So what? He's more He's more than caked up.
- 1:51:48
That's still not what we two ways to look at this. You can sit in your room and be the best most lyrical miracle [ __ ] and nobody can out rap
- 1:51:55
you. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's No. Or that's not the That's not That's not the equivalent. No, it isn't.
- 1:52:02
Yes, it is. No, it isn't. What's the difference? George Chris Nolan is not broke.
- 1:52:07
Yeah. And people know it ain't like [ __ ] don't know you 3000. Like you can say, yeah, there's richer rappers, but
- 1:52:14
he's not poor and he has a run of platinum in your in your equation. Nolan has a run of multiplatinum albums over
- 1:52:21
here. Cool. But he's doing classics. George Lucas is worth $5.3 billion
- 1:52:27
and should not be mentioned with Christopher Nolan in life. Based off of what? Based off the movies. Based off your
- 1:52:32
movie, [ __ ] He built an enterprise and he was able to it able to last over 50 [ __ ]
- 1:52:39
He did Indiana Jones and all that [ __ ] Star Wars pretty damn good. Robocop is way more fire than
- 1:52:46
what, bro? I love Robocop. Robocop is fire. I'd rather watch
- 1:52:52
Robocop than Star Wars. Who made Robocop? I don't know. Robocop is has one of the best sequels ever made. Christopher Nolan's net worth is
- 1:52:58
estimated at $250 million and his movies have grossed over $6.6 billion
- 1:53:04
worldwide. However, George Lucas is Let's go, man. Let's go. 5
- 1:53:10
bill. Also, how much has his movies grossed? It I It's probably
- 1:53:16
all jokes aside, you know what happens? It's like the [ __ ] talking here about these old [ __ ] that had it. It's like talking about [ __ ] that love
- 1:53:22
wrestling because old [ __ ] that Star Wars [ __ ] have a cult, bro. For sure. Them [ __ ] come out.
- 1:53:30
They wearing costumes online. I respect it. It's a little you in the head with a lightsaber. I
- 1:53:36
If I could put out a movie every four years and make what y'all putting out busting
- 1:53:41
y'all ass out 17 movies in four years. ish. You holding on to 80s glory
- 1:53:48
today. That's is all that's all he got to do today. Today
- 1:53:54
if if you if you are [ __ ] any of the big big uh production uh homes
- 1:54:01
it's a different reception when Christopher Nolan walks in. I'm also okay with the 250. I'm cool. How old is George Lucas?
- 1:54:07
George Lucas 80 something. 80 old as [ __ ] He's 81.
- 1:54:12
He's 81. So, respectfully, how old is Christopher Nolan? 605. 60 something. Okay. Respectfully,
- 1:54:20
come on. Don't do that again. Don't say nothing about George Lucas when I'm talking about Chris. Smoke, man. Let's get the smoke.
- 1:54:25
I'm I'm a little bit with you. I'm a little bit with you. I still enjoyed it. It was cool. It was cool. I enjoyed the smoke finale, but
- 1:54:33
six and a half. It could They left They left a lot of doors open for season two. That's what
- 1:54:38
I'll say. I thought they would I thought they would close more stories than they did
- 1:54:44
and they kind of robbed us of uh She don't want to hear it. No. What have you been doing with your
- 1:54:50
weekend? Your ears like this so you can hear me, man. What have you been doing with your time? I had high anxiety this weekend. So, I
- 1:54:55
watched [ __ ] that I've already seen before because I can predict the end. You got to smoke me getting
- 1:55:02
Say it again. You might time. He said getting smoked. He said getting smoked.
- 1:55:08
That might have reduced my [ __ ] anxiety. It said I watch your summer is summer in girl. Anyway, Miss Sloan.
- 1:55:13
Miss Sloan. Yep. That's your comfort movie with Jessica Chastain. I've never seen it. That's your That's your comfort room.
- 1:55:18
Good. You guys would love it. You guys would love that. I'm telling you. Baptism. Go ahead.
- 1:55:25
Uh they spent a lot of time with that whole everything is on fire scene. That took away
- 1:55:30
that whole [ __ ] into the woods. Yeah. That took away 25 minutes of this. I'm like, y'all not about to close what
- 1:55:35
y'all need to close. Yeah. At all. Um, shorty and spoiler alert. So, leave
- 1:55:41
or hit the little 15-second skip button. They [ __ ] fight clubbed us, man. Yeah. Yeah, they fight club us. I hate I hate it
- 1:55:47
when Shudder Island fight club us another
- 1:55:52
n what? Nah, I don't like island. 18.
- 1:55:58
I'm not You didn't like Shutter Islands. You're bucking. Oh, you're a bucking. You're out your mind. What?
- 1:56:04
Okay. What were we all about? How many times have you watched it? You're right. I've only seen it once. I'll watch it again. I'll come back with
- 1:56:10
my watch assessment. Watch it again after you watch it the first time. It is a hard movie. It's like watching
- 1:56:17
You got to watch it the second time. It's like watching It's like watching I'm not stupid. I watched the movie. You just Fight Club at the end. I don't
- 1:56:23
care. No, but but you but you're able to identify Fight Club as a tent
- 1:56:28
because that did it first. It was the first one. No, bro. Shutter Island
- 1:56:33
Shudder Island is a very hard movie to really get on one watch. You can't you have to watch it.
- 1:56:40
I watched it more than once, but I'm not stupid. I w got it the first time. Yeah. Did you watch it in theaters or you had the DVD?
- 1:56:46
You had the DVD set the first time? No, I had to watch Inception a bunch of times. That's what I say. Oh, what's Inception?
- 1:56:52
Huh? What do you have in Inception? That's Nolan, right? Ain't that Nolan? Say George Lucas name
- 1:56:57
again. No. Yo, I don't want to hear nothing about a Star Wars stars in the
- 1:57:03
sky, Star Trek, Star Spangle B. That [ __ ] is sitting on a private
- 1:57:08
island that he own with Obi-Wan Kenobi dolls over his mantle and he don't give
- 1:57:13
a [ __ ] about your homeboy. Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. All right. Eight out of 10 is inception to me.
- 1:57:18
Eight out of 10. Anyway, let this podcast be worth $2 billion. You won't breathe on one of these microphones. I
- 1:57:24
don't give a [ __ ] Are you crazy? I clunk you with this fold. Yo, George
- 1:57:29
[ __ ] Lucas. But but you always go straight to who's richer. That's not true. That's what I'm going to quality of the work.
- 1:57:34
I don't feel like arguing with you. Who has better movies? Between who? George Lucas. Who the [ __ ] have we been talking about for hours?
- 1:57:40
Okay, let me ask you. Let me ask you this. [ __ ] Have you been listening? I've been listening. Well, I just want to make sure. But I've been listening.
- 1:57:45
Who do you Who do you flipped out? They just going to answer me. Who has better movies out of the If you're a Star Trek fan, then you're
- 1:57:52
going to talk about he don't even make Star Trek. Star Wars would be Star Wars. Didn't he do Star Trek too?
- 1:57:58
Yo, can we close this? I would just like an answer to my question. We identify who's richer. Who has better movies
- 1:58:05
between the two? Oh boy. Christopher Nolan. Nolan. And it's not close. It's
- 1:58:11
not close. It's nowhere near close. Y'all were scaring me for Star Wars.
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Not really. However, who would you would you choose Nolan over David Fincher?
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Yeah. I need to hear I need to see the seven fight gone girls.
- 1:58:29
Oh, but he just Yeah. Yeah. You guys of Benjamin Button, but he's
- 1:58:34
he's fired. But that his run is more recent. That's a nice he started before. That's a nice little run.
- 1:58:41
Actually, no, it's no is older than Christopher Nolan by like
- 1:58:46
seven years. I just want to talk movies, not age. So, he's he's been directing for longer.
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Give him the movies from back then. Okay. All right. Here we go. His IMDb because he's fired. Gone Girl and
- 1:58:58
Button. You just Groom was in 2002. Uh let's see here. Uh
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chronological Mel. Come on. Fight Club was 90s. Yeah, Fight Club was 90s. It's not doing
- 1:59:09
in his run didn't start at Fight Club was he went on a run. What's his name?
- 1:59:14
David Finchers. I got you right now. You got seven in 1995. Alien 3. Seven was 95. The Game was 97.
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Also a great movie. Fight Club 99. Panic Room 2002. Not great. Zodiac, also a
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great movie. 2007. Benjamin Button 2008. Uh, Social Network 2010. Girl, Dragon
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Tattoo, not as It's trash compared to the original compared to the original. It's [ __ ] trash. Gone Girl 14.
- 1:59:39
Amazing. Uh, M. I didn't see the Killer 2023. And he's got another one.
- 1:59:45
All right. Social network. Don't say his name with Christopher Nolan again. He's got fire. He got some fire, but he can't say with Christopher.
- 1:59:52
I like that match up better than George [ __ ] Lucas. It's a better match up. It's a much better match up.
- 1:59:57
George, y' don't yell, [ __ ] man. Come on. Let's move on. [Music]
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We got to get George Lucas out of here when you talking. George Lucas is in a nursing home somewhere. No, he's not. All right. All right.
- 2:00:09
Enough. Anyway, a nice ass nursing home. Nobody got the nursing. We need We need
- 2:00:15
that new Star Wars heat. Well, they are. That's still going on. The last Star Wars was a fly. Anyway,
- 2:00:21
come on. Well, that's true. You hate it. Yeah, the last Star Wars was a fly. You watch the original.
- 2:00:26
I did, too. Yes, it was. The original was I watched the Swedish trilogy and it was [ __ ] amazing. But like when
- 2:00:31
I've always seen all the movies you don't need a girl to see. Go ahead, man. I'm sorry.
- 2:00:37
No, no, no. I was just asking Parks like you know why he liked the remake was Let me not say it was trash. It It was cool. It was It was a
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six and a half out of 10. Probably the original one's like a nine. That's amazing movie. Yeah. Well, the trilogy. Yeah, it was
- 2:00:50
good. Yeah, the original or the remake was good. I just I was really surprised by how much I liked it.
- 2:00:55
We said all that to say. We said all that to say, yo, hold on. Watch Fight Club. Oh, yeah. And Heat.
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Heat. If you haven't seen it, you have to watch Heat. Watch the comics. Every time you tell me
- 2:01:07
movies, I'm watch jealous that you jealous of you. Fight.
- 2:01:14
I wish I could see Fight Club for the first time. Word. Word. Oh, I know. I'm going to love Fight
- 2:01:19
Club. That's one of the movies that's so good. I said I'm going to wait and I just put it off for like 30 minutes. It's actually a good book, too.
- 2:01:24
Oh, I I'll read the book first. Okay. Yo, don't say Might Shallah. I mean,
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don't say him at all. Said the flop made. Wait, you said you were going to read what book was a flop? Fight Club.
- 2:01:36
He said Fight Club was a great book, too. Chuck Pelaniac. The movie. You watch the Cosby's [ __ ] And then
- 2:01:45
that's a solid. Yo, watch the Cosby show.
- 2:01:50
Please watch. If I watch my club, will you watch show? Yo, no. That's [ __ ] that's season
- 2:01:59
of the show. I'll watch one season at my house on consent. He got VHS's.
- 2:02:05
Hey yo. Hey yo, Mark real quick. It's just the light-skinned [ __ ] in the Cosby show, Theo. Man, it wasn't no
- 2:02:10
lightkinn. No. Yeah, that's the deal. That was in a different world, too. Not his man.
- 2:02:17
No, not now. Conquer with the lightkinned [ __ ] That was in a different world, too. But he popped up. He first he first.
- 2:02:23
You talking about Ron Johnson? Yeah. It's just Ron. You think Timmy's married? Timmy.
- 2:02:28
It's just so many different people. Yo, he's still married to 20 some years. The young man. He's still married.
- 2:02:35
Yo, what else do we have? You want to have the tough talk about the time to have the talk, man. Ish. What we talking
- 2:02:43
about? No, Dr. Umar. What happened to him? We we we have to have the talk. We've
- 2:02:48
been letting a lot of it slide. What you said happened off mic. Crashing out on camera. Yes. That's not That's not what happened.
- 2:02:56
Oh, you playing this [ __ ] [ __ ] sick of hell. Yo, what happened?
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[ __ ] you told me what happened. Relax. You told me I didn't know what happened. I didn't have a clue.
- 2:03:06
Third bag [ __ ] Wow, that was [ __ ] up. Let's go. You under the bus.
- 2:03:12
What? What? What do you want to talk about? Flip just what are we witnessing now?
- 2:03:18
What he did now? Um, so and I don't know the particulars. I have I've been so busy. But
- 2:03:29
I can't I can't be busy. Yo, Mark, I can't be busy. God damn it. You ain't busy. You've been in every
- 2:03:35
spaces way back. You been Yes, Mark is everywhere. I do show I do show promo which is why
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I've been focused on his other things. Um the an announcement came so there's
- 2:03:46
been a couple of events that I think have happened. Uh first Dr. Umar came on uh his own social media platform asking
- 2:03:52
for support. He said that his personal and uh business accounts have been frozen.
- 2:03:58
Um, and he's and for the first time in his life, he's asking for personal support. Not fundraising support, but
- 2:04:03
personal support because his his stuff is frozen. He's trying to take care of Queen Mother Eatundday, his mother uh as
- 2:04:09
well as himself. That that was the first thing. The next beat was that uh an announcement came out from him and from
- 2:04:15
others that the school uh had been um was was facing uh not closing auction. I
- 2:04:22
think that's the word I was looking for. Um because of unpaid debt. Uh Dr. Dr. Umar explained two pieces to this. One
- 2:04:29
is he's saying that the state of Delaware has not given him any notice uh about what was happening that they put
- 2:04:35
uh notices on the door uh but that you know he didn't have access to them and they've basically not communicated and it seems to him that they're trying to
- 2:04:42
uh maybe go behind his back and auction off the school at a moment where he's vulnerable because his accounts have been frozen. Um and so he's been asking
- 2:04:49
for support to make up I think the amount of 72. What the [ __ ] Am I
- 2:04:54
What? $72,000 is the amount that he's that he's looking for. Um or that he needs to
- 2:05:00
pay the state. Um and there's and there's some technicalities there around like you sure know a lot for a [ __ ] that didn't know a lot.
- 2:05:08
No, I sure know a lot. Oh, no. I know the backstory, but he said crashing out. That's the part I
- 2:05:13
don't know anything about. Okay. I'm saying I don't think I'm crashing out. I just know that he's been he's been mistreated. That's That's true.
- 2:05:20
That's real. Why not find so much joy? Okay. No, we're not finding joy. We [ __ ] with him. Go ahead.
- 2:05:25
And giving me a hard time. That's all I was going to say. Yeah. I'm sorry. Um and so and so that's where he is right now. I know I saw an announcement.
- 2:05:31
I I don't have the chronology of it, but I did see I believe some he was doing some fundraising efforts himself, you
- 2:05:36
know, as you know, things from auctioning off lunches to um $500 a lunch. Yeah. To like
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Yeah. to like things. Um and I think that's where he is. I think what's interesting to me is on YouTube there are a lot I mean there's
- 2:05:49
so much content being made about this. It seems like there are people who are like rooting for this to fail. There are people who are like I told you so and
- 2:05:55
then there are people who are trying to help and it seems like that the the helping section is much smaller than the people who are talking [ __ ] Um I'm just
- 2:06:02
kind of witnessing the whole thing trying to make sense of everything. Which side do you follow? Um I don't want anybody to fail. True.
- 2:06:08
You know I I don't want him to lose his buildings. I don't want a school not to get built. Uh, I I I donated to FDMG, so
- 2:06:15
I certainly want FDMG to succeed. I saw a white supremacist make a video saying that he's going to it's being
- 2:06:21
auctioned. He's going to buy it. Exactly. And he's going to bulldoze. You got to clean your algorithm out.
- 2:06:27
Well, YouTube on YouTube that dark web
- 2:06:33
Trump [ __ ] He said he said, "Watch your mouth." Yo, you the one that voted I'm fine talking about vote for Trump. Watch your
- 2:06:40
[ __ ] mouth. Just know I don't let y'all play with Marus watch. I don't
- 2:06:46
know right now, but I believe Mark and when I find out which one of you
- 2:06:52
[ __ ] voted for Trump, I'm on y'all ass. You should be. Oh,
- 2:06:57
it's going to come out. [ __ ] start tagging me. Yo, was you like [ __ ] Hey yo, listen. It's going to come out. And then you keep saying you blowing it
- 2:07:03
off because I keep people I keep I I was a vault. Yeah, I'm a vault. I didn't tell y'all [ __ ] we was get out early. You think
- 2:07:08
I'm a different mail? And I learned a valuable lesson. You told me I kept it in myself.
- 2:07:15
He told me over until we got in front of [ __ ] muffins, [ __ ] Listen,
- 2:07:20
[ __ ] told Pizza Hut. You know, white supremacist said he's going to trophies today.
- 2:07:26
He's going to bulldoze the building, put a big toilet on top of it, and um yeah, like they're just [ __ ] with Doc, not
- 2:07:32
doctor. They [ __ ] with um Yeah, Dr. Sorry. his dissertation leaked this week. They
- 2:07:38
put out his doctoral dissertation and they've been analyzing that on the internet. It's like people have an obsession with him that I think to me it's this story
- 2:07:45
should be less about Dr. Umar and his school although that's important and more about what it all means like like
- 2:07:51
I we need schools for but let's say this I heard at one point there were a lot of celebrities that were interested in
- 2:07:57
helping him but they had questions and he end up disrespecting him on the internet. They said that LeBron inquired
- 2:08:02
one time Oh, really? about Yeah. This what I just saw a report on that and you know he was just cuz he would complain
- 2:08:08
that people wouldn't help donate like a lot of celebrities basketball players that he's trying to make a a all black
- 2:08:14
school. Where you seen a report on that? I just saw it man on the internet.com.
- 2:08:21
No real [ __ ] just did that wrong and friends.
- 2:08:27
I guess before people want to donate they want to know more information. Everybody's not like Mark I'll just donate for black [ __ ] People want to
- 2:08:32
know more information. Listen, I know I know this conversation is compelling. The only part that's confusing me about the Dr. Umar [ __ ] is
- 2:08:40
his earning power is still through the roof. It's a fact. So them telling me that he owes 70 grand
- 2:08:46
here, 60 grand here. Like I know Dr. Umar to post 40 speaking engagements and
- 2:08:53
I be blowing my calculator out. Like his earning power is very much. But a lot of those speaking engagements are for the people at the grassroots.
- 2:08:58
They're not. They're either free or there's no I know what I paid him last time he came here. If he felt like getting up and
- 2:09:04
getting out to it. Yeah. But I think that's why the frozen accounts are important because I think if if his accounts are getting frozen
- 2:09:11
then um you he can make a gajillion dollars. You can't access it. See Dr. Umar. And now we learn the
- 2:09:18
importance of white women. Putting in putting in
- 2:09:26
Marcus G. What's the box name? Mama Johnson.
- 2:09:32
Jack Johnson. They got me. They got me. Jack Johnson over
- 2:09:38
put my name on all your [ __ ] for a second. I don't know. I mean, Jack Johnson had the white woman. That's why he had the Jack Johnson act. Up in jail. That's the
- 2:09:45
man that was Don't Don't do that. Look at him acting like everything is I I hope everything works out. I hope
- 2:09:50
Umar's accounts get un What happened?
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Don't put me in it. Who you talking about? I didn't hear what he said. I said they did.
- 2:10:01
I didn't say that. Don't Don't put words in my mouth. I hope his accounts get unfrozen. I hope the school gets gets open cuz it seems
- 2:10:08
like they were fairly close to opening. And I And I hope that Let's go down there. And I hope you get there and check it.
- 2:10:14
You try that move with Spanish girls, you go to jail, [ __ ] They going to report that car stolen, [ __ ]
- 2:10:19
Go ahead. I wish him nothing but love and support, man. Why don't you [ __ ] reach out and and
- 2:10:25
my support? I did reach out. I reach out. You know what I noticed about Mark reach out in times of turmoil?
- 2:10:33
You want somebody to reach out to you? N helping hands. Nah. Not if I ain't heard. First of all, Peter, he don't need defender. You said
- 2:10:41
second of all, if I ain't heard from you for the rest of the year, don't pop up when I'm sleepwalking. You I read some
- 2:10:47
[ __ ] Pizza. I read some [ __ ] Yo, you good? No, I'm not good, [ __ ]
- 2:10:53
But I didn't do that. I reached out to him to support all the time. I'm looking at my text thread now. Look, look at Mark. Proud of your progress.
- 2:10:59
F the haters. Keep going. Thanks, King. Like, we we exchanged, you know, it's all love. So, what was that? 2023.
- 2:11:04
Uh, actually, yeah, actually. Yeah, but that's that's the top of the thread. If I keep going down the thread, yeah, I
- 2:11:10
always I always send them. And if I, you know, we neutral ops. No, no ops. I love I love Dr. Mark. I
- 2:11:16
want to stop. I want him to win. He ain't send no spanky. enough. Mom, where where would I send it?
- 2:11:23
That's what I reached out to. I literally I literally reached out two weeks ago to ask his last video. He said where he wanted
- 2:11:28
the money. He gave his phone number and he said he's been asking for donations for a
- 2:11:33
little while now. Sell it. I knew where to send the cash app, too. Hit the cash app, Mark. I ain't going to
- 2:11:40
hate on the brother. Anyway, I I want I want I want him to win. I want him to succeed. Um I just I just It's just interesting how like when
- 2:11:46
you're down, everybody pounces. You know what I mean? Yeah, I actually had to I was defending him this weekend because people were trying to people people
- 2:11:53
without doctorates are breaking down and now they breaking down his P his side ID thesis talking about whether he should deserve a doctor or he does deserve a
- 2:11:59
doctorate and it's like who are y'all to judge it's weird to me how everybody's an expert on some [ __ ] you know welcome to the internet yeah
- 2:12:05
yeah but you know what else cuz not to move on from Dr. But I think we've exhausted this. I I think the real
- 2:12:11
question for me is is why Joe doesn't want Palestine to be free. I got to go to the bathroom.
- 2:12:16
Yeah. No, let me sit up for these [ __ ] Yeah. I I want to know Joe. I mean, it's
- 2:12:22
it's Mark. And this is my only problem with Mark working here. Like now I got to throw the Frank at some [ __ ] that I
- 2:12:27
don't really even know. Throw the Frank is crazy. Now I got to send the Brett at some
- 2:12:32
[ __ ] that I ain't never even had like an exchange with before. But no, let me stop. Let me stop joking
- 2:12:38
around for a minute. Yes, I've been seeing you for a week. Kick my
- 2:12:44
back in. Deservedly so. And let me say that I agree with that
- 2:12:50
sentiment. I don't know if you're being funny, but No, I'm not. I do think it's deservedly so. Like, I
- 2:12:56
told that to my mom and my girl and everybody out there. You see what they saying right there? So, yeah. I think
- 2:13:01
that when Mark was expressing his sentiments about the people that he lost, first of all, rest in peace. Uh,
- 2:13:07
some of y'all know where my heart lie. I don't that's not my ministry. I'm not with any death anywhere. So, but how
- 2:13:15
that came off, yeah, it looked really irresponsible. Uh, it looked really immature and it didn't look like it
- 2:13:24
didn't align with how I feel about things. So, I totally understand me getting killed for that. I'm not mad at that. Right. Players [ __ ] up, too.
- 2:13:30
That's on me. If I [ __ ] up, please feel free to kill me. However,
- 2:13:37
however, my problem lie in in it it turning into
- 2:13:43
the phone game where one thing turns into another thing which turns into another thing. So, the headlines I
- 2:13:50
started to see was [ __ ] Joe Button uh free Palestine
- 2:13:56
as if the two contradict. So, don't get to talking like you know my views on this. Don't uh mislead,
- 2:14:05
misrepresent, or misspeak for me. I'm responsible for an illtimed segue. That
- 2:14:13
is the end of it. Y'all don't know how I feel about [ __ ] because I specifically
- 2:14:18
don't really speak much about these things. Nor am I suppressing Mark. If he wants to come in here and talk about it,
- 2:14:23
please feel free. But yeah, my only issue came in them turning my illtime segue into uh pretending to know how I
- 2:14:32
feel about certain matters. That's just that's just not responsible. I'm glad that got brought up cuz this I
- 2:14:37
I did anybody else get the smoke? Cuz I definitely did. I don't think we saw the smoke.
- 2:14:43
I saw a little bit of smoke. We We get it. Okay. I just wonder I mean like No. No, I've had the conversation many times.
- 2:14:49
No, not the conversation like in terms of the response to the clip that went viral.
- 2:14:55
Yeah, people are reaching out to me and I'm sure they reached out to all of us regarding it. Yeah.
- 2:15:01
But I but again my my not on your timeline. No, not at all. Again, your algorithm is probably different. It is we all stand.
- 2:15:08
Yeah. Yeah. I watch I get al
- 2:15:16
but it's your job to come up here and teach teach us. But it's not my job. It is your job because you you you at
- 2:15:21
fault as much as Mr. Rogers. as much you know but at the same time if you if you're familiar with a situation
- 2:15:27
and it's passionate and you know the outcome of it cuz you're more versed into that world than a lot of us are you
- 2:15:33
should inform us I I try to do that in like when I did that little 25 30 seconds of of sort of here's why
- 2:15:40
the world's on fire which I think is an interesting thing we should do regularly just like here's some things going on in the world but there's to me and I said this on
- 2:15:46
Friday when you weren't here I think there are other spaces that are more conducive to that it's the same thing we do here with sports we talk about sports
- 2:15:52
for a minute or two, you know what I mean? But we're not going to do a deep dive on on the NFL preseason because
- 2:15:59
that's what ESPN is for. But somebody who I'm not going to make excuses for my behavior. Y'all can have the conversation. For me,
- 2:16:06
I heard Mark say Gaza and as the a mic here, I immediately tried to get to uh
- 2:16:13
figure out what the next segue would be. It was ill time. Horrible. Horrible. And it came off
- 2:16:19
horribly. So half of the people that's kicking my back in, I totally understand. The rest of you [ __ ] can
- 2:16:24
suck my dick. I don't give a [ __ ] about what you [ __ ] are talking about. The ones that's manipulating this into
- 2:16:30
something else. And then there was question as to why I said, "Well, how do we pivot away from that? Making it seem like I don't have
- 2:16:37
any level of sympathy for what's happening or just the fact that you said that all of your journalist friends are
- 2:16:42
well were murdered." Like that would be ridiculous that I wouldn't feel any level of empathy. People don't understand when we talk about pivot up
- 2:16:49
here, we talk about how do we pivot from one subject to the next especially and the fact is we don't really handle a lot
- 2:16:56
of serious matters. We are trying to be an escape for people you know with this
- 2:17:01
particular podcast. So that's not an excuse for me you
- 2:17:07
provide both provide an out whatsoever. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just adding we should be better in that.
- 2:17:13
Yeah, you handled that poorly but also there's context that I think is important. We make a joke about pivoting from dark [ __ ] all the time. Like that's
- 2:17:19
a running joke here is what do we do now? How do we And that's kind of where I was with it. But there's more people
- 2:17:24
that don't watch this show than there are that do watch this show. Like my mom always said to me, what's
- 2:17:30
easier trying to get the world to understand you or you understanding the world. I'm not I'm not all what y'all
- 2:17:36
saying is true. I'm owning my [ __ ] It horrible. Came out crazy. I'll do
- 2:17:43
better. Yeah. Yeah, but I just wanted to offer the context as to why we say things like pivot away
- 2:17:48
from because that's just that is just the platform that we're on. It has nothing to do with personal
- 2:17:54
feelings like Yeah. Yeah. And hopefully everybody in their respective platforms out there does that
- 2:18:01
cuz there are people who are asking us to carry it here. And I think I agree. I mean I'm willing to talk about it takes
- 2:18:08
into everyone is I'd rather talk about it on night school or alaz just cuz there's more runway for that. But you
- 2:18:13
sports people out there, athletes, all the athletes are being killed in Palestine, in Gaza, the stadiums have
- 2:18:18
been crushed. Talking about gender issues, women issues, pregnant mothers are being killed, babies are being killed. You know, we everybody's domain
- 2:18:24
can cover this issue if they want to. So, we all have a responsibility in the midst of a genocide to talk about it and deal with it. So, I don't think it's
- 2:18:30
anyone's exclusive job, but I do think some spaces are more conducive to it than others. And for me, I'd rather say
- 2:18:35
here here's a here's 30 seconds of what's going on, just like I did with what's going on in DC, or we could talk about what's going on right now with
- 2:18:40
redistricting in Texas, right? I mean, where they're literally trying to undermine democracy by taking away
- 2:18:46
people's votes and people's congressional representation. All of these things are issues that we should talk about here, but I think they're
- 2:18:51
avenues that just do it better. Yeah. That's all. Or or an audience that's more conducive to the conversation.
- 2:18:56
Yes. Yeah. That's just that's just that that's just that's just my take on it. No, I agree with everything you said.
- 2:19:02
Well said. Well put. I'm you when it comes to [ __ ] like the shooting at the hookah spot in Brooklyn. like like
- 2:19:09
I'm you when it come to oh [ __ ] it's crazy [ __ ] going on over here. Uh maybe I need to go get a little more educated
- 2:19:15
and maybe we'll have the conversation one day, but for now I own I own the part that I played and how crazy that
- 2:19:22
looked. I'll do better. And rest in peace to everybody. Everybody. Not just the
- 2:19:28
people that Mark lost, but everybody. Yeah, everybody. But And we should get better with our trauma responses up here.
- 2:19:34
Yes. Yes. Want to add one more quick thing. I agree. I want everyone to rest in peace. I want justice for everybody.
- 2:19:42
But I also want to be very clear that there are oppressors and oppressed in this situation because sometimes it's like when Obama came out after the
- 2:19:48
shooting be like I I understand the policeside and I understand the black young black men side. It's like that frames them as if they're equal people
- 2:19:54
battling over something and there's an actual oppressor in this situation. And so I'm only speaking for myself right
- 2:19:59
now. I I want everyone to survive. I want everyone to thrive. But I'm going to be very clear here. The Palestinians are the ones being genocided right now.
- 2:20:04
A thousand%. Like I just I was just reading this cuz Madonna went off the rails. No, there's a headline right now and this is part of the whole [ __ ]
- 2:20:11
propaganda campaign. Childhood in a war in a war zone after 22 months of the Israel Hamas war. It's not a [ __ ]
- 2:20:17
war, right? It's not a [ __ ] war. It's a genocide and we're watching it and this country is funding it.
- 2:20:22
Right. And those kinds of words are squashed. I'm not. But it's like don't try to come in and do the right thing.
- 2:20:28
It's over, girl. It's fault. It's your fault. I swear to God. You get shot in the head and I get the [ __ ] blowback.
- 2:20:34
I swear it's same [ __ ] Mel is the greatest. Same [ __ ] Speak. Now, I don't want to make awkward
- 2:20:40
pivot here, but I there's something else I want to talk about. Oh. Oh, go ahead. No. No. Go. Please. Please. I just want to say before we leave this
- 2:20:46
type of stuff, I want to say rest in peace to uh Ariel, the bartender that was murdered on uh the cross county uh
- 2:20:53
these last few days. Uh I know she was very popular. A lot of people knew her. Uh the digital media is calling her
- 2:21:00
Tekashi's girl, and that couldn't be further from the truth. But but she was wellknown. She was well-loved. She was
- 2:21:06
very popular. Uh she helped a lot of [ __ ] get through that [ __ ] pandemic at some of the secret strip clubs.
- 2:21:12
Really sweet girl. She was a mother. She was a daughter. She had a family. Like people [ __ ] with her. So
- 2:21:18
rest in peace. And and this is the third, fourth, or fifth bartender to be murdered in the
- 2:21:25
last seven months, I want to say. Really? Yes. totally unrelated,
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but yes, there was the the bartender that was found uh that went to booby
- 2:21:36
trap and she used to work out here. She's a New Yorker. She went to booby trap and was found murdered in a car with her boyfriend. Uh there's I don't
- 2:21:42
want to go down the whole road, but there's been there's been a few now. So, please, if you work in the nightife, be
- 2:21:48
careful. Rest in peace to Ariel, her uh prayers, thoughts to her family, her
- 2:21:53
friends, and her loved ones. Really, really, really horrible story. So, yeah.
- 2:21:59
Now you were saying Mark or should I queue up outstanding? Let's do outstanding. All right. Rest in
- 2:22:05
peace. Prayers to anybody out there fighting a silent battle. Prayers to anybody out
- 2:22:10
there that has lost somebody recently. Our hearts are with you. You were saying Mark.
- 2:22:16
I think the run might be over for Ozic. A lot of y'all out there on Ompic. I see
- 2:22:22
your new bodies. I see your the relationship between your head and your body.
- 2:22:27
I see the changes. You laughing laugh.
- 2:22:33
Mark is you laughing or something? Mark is shrunk, too. [ __ ] you, honey. I shrunk the kids ass [ __ ]
- 2:22:39
Shut up. Beat him ass. Any keep going, Mark. But is getting sued?
- 2:22:45
Yeah. Really? Multiple lawsuits. It's up to $2 billion right now.
- 2:22:51
That came a lot quicker than I thought it would. I'm not going to lie. Not me. No, not me. Not me. We knew this was once the
- 2:22:58
doctor's office started chefing that [ __ ] up like it was uh steak. You going there for anything.
- 2:23:04
They got the [ __ ] posters up for outsiders looking in. This appeared to be the second coming of uh what's
- 2:23:09
that? The dope dope. Yeah. Yeah. Like doctors pushing this. I came in here and told y'all every commercial
- 2:23:15
month after month they added a new thing that this was remedying. Oh, for sure. I came in here and said they were I was
- 2:23:22
reading articles about how it makes your dick bigger. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
- 2:23:27
Your stomach gets strong. But say if you cut your stomach, it had a stomach. Like I've been on this when Mel was on
- 2:23:33
the couch back there. Sick.
- 2:23:38
Telling us that she had a stomach ache. Remember you was telling us you had a stomach ache. It was like it was you was [ __ ] up.
- 2:23:44
Stop it. It was one [ __ ] day where I actually had a [ __ ] stomach ache. Well, had nothing to do I had nothing to do
- 2:23:52
with that. Was it stomach paralysis? Cuz in this suit they're saying the Olympic people are suffering from the people that's
- 2:23:57
falling, they're suffering from blindness and stomach paralysis and you was on the couch holding your stomach.
- 2:24:03
Yeah, I remember that. So I can't I wouldn't listen I don't know why you don't even lie and say yes and get down
- 2:24:09
with this [ __ ] That's funny because I was never on
- 2:24:14
about to take that [ __ ] and get sick. Yeah. [ __ ] they talking about. Yeah. Mel was Mel. In fair in fairness,
- 2:24:21
Mel wasn't actually one of you. Well, it was like a derivative, right? It was something different, right?
- 2:24:26
GLP called semiglutide, but that's basically like the active ingredient. But talking about ampic, I was not
- 2:24:33
I took it for like one. She had no
- 2:24:41
stop it, guys. It's not right. Stop it. the George Lucas version.
- 2:24:47
The George Lucas version would be way different. [ __ ] stop. Oh man. No, no, no. But over 1,800 patients have
- 2:24:52
sued. So, this is a significant thing. The question I have is, and this is where I hate the latigious
- 2:24:58
nature of society. Again, if you took this for a reason, specifically if you had diabetes or something else, I get it.
- 2:25:03
But a whole lot of people take this to lose weight. And I think if you told them ahead of time, look, you're going to lose 300 lb,
- 2:25:09
but you're going to have some tummy aches and your vision going to get blurry. But he still would have took it still took and also when you see the
- 2:25:15
commercial you know when the when the words kind of like you know when the person speeds up side effects including side effects including blah blah blah
- 2:25:21
blah it's all there is it okay not just that these same people bro people ain't going to listen
- 2:25:26
to that when they was trying to give everybody the vaccine [ __ ] was like yo wait let's see what it do you don't know
- 2:25:33
what's going to happen and we didn't give a [ __ ] but that [ __ ] was scary want to get outside I mean people got took the vaccine cuz
- 2:25:38
we saw a lot of people that's not true that's not trueecially I know a lot of people that let's not turn back
- 2:25:46
with the with the Olympic [ __ ] People's vanity um was was at the
- 2:25:53
forefront of them giving the [ __ ] out. Yo dog, you could go in the hospital for a stub toe. They like, "You want some Oz? We got it right here."
- 2:25:58
Oh, your armor. You want some? Selling that [ __ ] on the street. They selling [ __ ] on the street, my [ __ ] It really played into people's vanity more than their their wellness.
- 2:26:06
And it's shoving down obesity ads down people's throats. And then if those people are dog owners, like if you ain't
- 2:26:11
hungry, you ain't gonna think that the [ __ ] that the dog would eat. No, they gave that [ __ ] to my godfather.
- 2:26:17
He's 78 years old and that [ __ ] [ __ ] him up. Like it they was giving that [ __ ] to anybody, my [ __ ] Like all jokes aside, they they was giving that
- 2:26:23
[ __ ] away. But did he have a dog? Yo yo,
- 2:26:28
yo, you're an idiot. Out of sight, out of mind. If you're not Yo, so stupid ass humans. You know what?
- 2:26:33
I want to not have the urge to eat. No, but what happens is you trust these
- 2:26:41
trust in these doctors, Americans, not just you're trusting doctors. You are trusting doctors that sometimes have an
- 2:26:47
ulterior motive to prescribing you some [ __ ] which is their commissions or their come up financially. They you
- 2:26:53
listening to them and thinking that they went to school, they got all the training, they have your well-being at your and that's not the case, dog. They
- 2:27:01
when you start reading the ingredients from the Ompic, that [ __ ] is insane, my [ __ ] regular food.
- 2:27:08
In Ozic's defense, in Ozic's defense, oh bro, people were abusing it. The intent of
- 2:27:14
Ozic and the only thing it's approved for by the FDA is to treat diabetes diabetes. Yeah. To treat diabetes. And
- 2:27:20
it was like, "Oh, wait. This [ __ ] will make you lose a lot of weight." And then people are using it for reasons and purposes other than what it was made to
- 2:27:26
do. So yeah, if you keep using [ __ ] for other reasons, you're going to get other consequences. But the doctor's
- 2:27:32
giving it to you as if it is okay to do so. And you don't have I'm not saying
- 2:27:37
the people. I'm just consumers, doctors, every I'm just saying, oh, the company didn't make this drug for this purpose. True. But now we find out we selling we
- 2:27:43
x amount of billions or whatever. We making all this money over here. Viagra was a heart medication,
- 2:27:49
right? Maybe it's just me. I could tell when the when my primary physician is no
- 2:27:54
longer on my health and he turns into car salesman. That's true. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Like after I go and my checkup and
- 2:28:02
you check this and we kick in and we talk, there's a switch that hits where you start asking me [ __ ] that [ __ ] get
- 2:28:07
the [ __ ] out of here. Like this the oil change. Yes, that's the oil change. Yo yo yo,
- 2:28:14
you need your cabin filter change, too. You need your dog. I'm here for this. Your brakes a little low. You know what
- 2:28:19
I mean? Your rollers look a little Yeah, I'm here for this. I I hate that this society is at this
- 2:28:24
place where and it's always been here, I guess, but where everybody wants something for nothing. Everybody wants to get rich quick. Everybody wants to
- 2:28:30
lose weight without having to diet and exercise. Yeah, but that's that I hate it. I just that's not fair to say. I mean, like the
- 2:28:36
the assumption is that everybody got on it for vanity. There's a significant portion of people who had genetics that
- 2:28:43
just were not on their side, who had other health conditions that prevent them from losing weight. They've struggled with their weight their entire
- 2:28:49
[ __ ] lives, and they've, you know, it's created like other core morbidities. You know what I'm saying?
- 2:28:54
is really it's not fair to place everybody in the same box. Place everybody in that box. Those people aren't used to scale of
- 2:29:00
business. Yes, that's what I'm saying. The scale of business is the people I mean and I'm
- 2:29:05
because you've mentioned that you've used it. Were you using it for because of coorbidities or genetics issues? I was using it just because at the you
- 2:29:11
know when pmenopause sets in weight gets extremely [ __ ] um hard to get rid of.
- 2:29:18
So a [ __ ] you know then I'm not gonna say anything. If you want if you want to
- 2:29:23
like discredit everything that I say as it not being I'm rolling with what she's saying. No, I I'm rolling 100% with what she's saying.
- 2:29:30
The fact of the matter is is that was it. Say it again then. Listen, when Perry menopause kicks in, any woman
- 2:29:35
can attest that there is weight that just it just accumulates on your body that is very stubborn and it won't
- 2:29:41
[ __ ] go anywhere. So, I wanted to try it to see what would happen if I could if I could if I could get the stubborn
- 2:29:48
weight off just a little bit and then with my program that I do diet and exercise
- 2:29:54
be able to maintain which is what I did. Right. I understand that. But now, let me ask you a question though.
- 2:29:59
And it was last year that I used was it was it suggested to you by a doctor
- 2:30:05
or did you say that yourself like, "All right, you know what? Oh, this is happening. Let me seek out. Let's figure out what happens. Let me see if I can
- 2:30:11
get on that." Right. No. [ __ ] said Dr. Dre.
- 2:30:18
Watch your [ __ ] mouth. Yo, I'm tired of you abusing this. Watch your mouth. Yo, I'm tired of you abusing this
- 2:30:24
question. And love is Dr. Dre. I'm tired of this. Yo, not even doctor.
- 2:30:30
No, look, I don't have an issue with people using it for that reason. My point is just that that's still the same
- 2:30:36
reason, right? It's still at the end of the day, that's still a vanity reason, right? I don't say it wasn't for diabetes. And and again, I think people
- 2:30:41
should do that. I have no I'm not taking there's no judgment about it. I'm just saying that plays into and you work hard in diet and exercise, you know what I
- 2:30:48
mean? But like she said, it ain't going nowhere. Let me try something else. And for some people that I don't want to use the word vanity cuz it's going to
- 2:30:53
sound negative, but it was a desire to do something that wasn't medically necessary. Look more beautiful. Yeah. And I take I take drugs that
- 2:30:59
aren't medically necessary. I'm not throwing any shots. I'm just saying like that brings danger that brings risks
- 2:31:04
sometimes. And I feel like we have to be we have to have that conversation as a society partly for why the society makes
- 2:31:10
you feel as a woman approaching that age that you have to do. Well, then don't take ED medication. I don't
- 2:31:15
don't take that. I don't I'm not talking about you. Don't take ED [ __ ] medication. Don't
- 2:31:21
do that. Y'all [ __ ] vain ass [ __ ]
- 2:31:29
out of here. Break it up. No, [ __ ]
- 2:31:34
[ __ ] tripping. Let's go, man. [ __ ] should be sleep. That's right. [ __ ] should be super sleep, right? Drowsy dick [ __ ]
- 2:31:40
That [ __ ] is [ __ ] knock. Millions of free holiday.
- 2:31:51
How long you been holding that in?
- 2:31:58
Yo. Look at me. Look at me face though
- 2:32:03
cuz y'all keep every time we got par. Yeah, it is a constant my [ __ ] life.
- 2:32:11
Yes, it is. Sorry, ma'am. You are able body. That's the thing. I know the [ __ ] that. It's like ice in their wheelchair.
- 2:32:16
I know that I'm able. You [ __ ] be on [ __ ] and we saying it. Oh, I be on [ __ ] at the airport in
- 2:32:22
the wheelchair. I just booked a flight and it was like, "Do you need any special accommodations?" Wheelchair.
- 2:32:27
Mhm. That's crazy ice. That's crazy. Is got off it too. He turned to think it's just male. [ __ ]
- 2:32:32
is that why he left? Who knows? Yeah, when it's started to get skinny for a little bit. Oh my god,
- 2:32:38
that's crazy. Why can't you use the wheelchair? It's there sugar.
- 2:32:44
But anyways, um what I'm surprised by is the fact that there's no other medication started leaving like in the
- 2:32:50
suit. I think that's remember when your [ __ ] Yo, come on.
- 2:32:55
I'm talking about man like his [ __ ] was Hey yo, you about to slide this [ __ ] I hold you.
- 2:33:01
Watch your [ __ ] mouth. His ass started to Yo, come now. He lost mad weight. [ __ ] wasn't sitting no more. He was
- 2:33:07
taking them little Chinese pills. This [ __ ] used to be like a shelf.
- 2:33:16
I'm uncomfortable.
- 2:33:22
I don't give a [ __ ] Yo, you want Buzz? I don't give a [ __ ] You want Buzzby V number?
- 2:33:29
Yo, while we on stupid [ __ ] that members of the cast did uh Freeze, there's a film out called
- 2:33:37
Broken Eyes about the dangers. Uh yeah. Uh on
- 2:33:42
Pioneer PBS uh about the dangers of Lasix and what it what that does to you
- 2:33:49
years after uh you get the uh procedure. I've I've seen I've heard certain people have um like they lost their sight, dry
- 2:33:56
eyes. I've seen people certain I've seen No, no, no. I've seen probably just certain people,
- 2:34:02
[ __ ] That happens. The [ __ ] your ass start to leave a little bit, too.
- 2:34:07
You [ __ ] got Yo, what's up with you in [ __ ] asses? You good?
- 2:34:14
Am I missing your Did you do LASIC? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But you didn't have any bad side effects? No. No, I haven't. I did LASIC uh about
- 2:34:21
five years ago now. Okay. Yeah. I' I've read the horror stories. Would you tell us? Some people have actually um
- 2:34:28
like self transition because they're they're they they just lost their sight.
- 2:34:34
It's gotten that bad. They all horror stories. So you never woke up in sweats and your girl had to go get a cold rag?
- 2:34:41
No. No, she didn't. [ __ ] wipe you down. No, she get a rag wipe down for something else. Hey, big freeze. Back on
- 2:34:49
them EDS. What? We back on that ED, man. Want us to stop
- 2:34:54
taking ED so bad you need or that you think?
- 2:35:00
No, we take Especially for your girl. I eat coogi. That fix it. Let's go.
- 2:35:05
Freeze. Oh, he one of those. The juices. The juices to my body.
- 2:35:11
That's not right. Hold on. Mark is confused. You got to break that. Did you bring that to me? Freeze down. Freeze.
- 2:35:17
Eat coochie. It It get you right up there. Let's go. Freeze.
- 2:35:23
Freeze don't need that. Yeah, [ __ ] I don't need no need medicine. God bless. Why are you confusing what he's saying?
- 2:35:28
I just That sounds If I'm ever facing that dilemma, I have to try it. But that doesn't seem like that would work. I
- 2:35:33
don't think everybody whose dick don't work just has to consider eating [ __ ] There's some men that really really like
- 2:35:38
to eat it and they get off on it. Uh, and that make that Yeah, that's what he's saying.
- 2:35:43
That's their thing. All right. and and Puerto Ricans. What? What? You about to ask all pizza?
- 2:35:49
I wasn't about to ask [ __ ] We was about to ask Pizza Hut something that didn't have nothing to do with Pizza. It was off the menu. And I said, "You
- 2:35:54
know what? Yeah. I just have a salad.
- 2:36:01
I'm going to be in that court. I'm going to be in that trial in the galley. Not in what I take is for PD.
- 2:36:06
It's not for ED. It's for powerful dick. It's not cuz it's not for erectile dysfunction. This
- 2:36:13
when I need, you know what I mean? This when I want to see her.
- 2:36:19
It's the reminder. And this when I got to look up humble. Yo, you good? Are you okay? You Why you cool? Do I need to relax? Slow down.
- 2:36:28
Look, you old as hell. She old as hell. I not
- 2:36:34
a little bit PD. You know what I mean? Sometime need that extra oomph in it. Sometimes I don't know. We saw we saw
- 2:36:40
that camera that that was that ring camera preschool day.
- 2:36:57
[Music] Oh man, that is funny.
- 2:37:05
Oh, they growing out of shore.
- 2:37:10
So, hey, as soon as I say, "Hey, I'm going to run to the bathroom for you." Some growing
- 2:37:18
take place. I'll give a [ __ ] As soon as I say, "Yeah, let me go piss real quick. Let me
- 2:37:25
just get away for Tuesday when I come back." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's up? You want to pop in?
- 2:37:31
Yeah. Yeah. You were saying we in here. What's up? Oh Jesus.
- 2:37:37
Yo, this podcast is sick. Yo, and you know you need more than 2 minutes, right?
- 2:37:44
Well, no. Four flip. Oh, that's your 20. That's your 20. Four flip. That's your 20. You just need to get to the bathroom for
- 2:37:50
a second. Popeye only need to need the spinach. Yeah. Little little hot water. Yeah, that's it. Well, papa ate that
- 2:37:57
[ __ ] homeboy. Bam. Some hot water.
- 2:38:02
A little bit of foreplay. Remember foreplay.
- 2:38:08
This [ __ ] hot water. [ __ ] is off. I know. I know what you was talking about.
- 2:38:14
Feel in the face. You don't enjoy eating [ __ ]
- 2:38:19
I love eating [ __ ] Oh man. I was just saying I didn't need it to get erect. No, that's not what I was. Okay, big dog. No, no. People talk about
- 2:38:28
response to ED. Whoa. If eating [ __ ] solved ED, right?
- 2:38:35
[ __ ] be walking around. What are you talking about? Right. That's what I'm saying. Those legs are small.
- 2:38:42
I mean, you can only imagine. God don't make mistakes. Exactly. I got I got a third one.
- 2:38:50
If those legs are like that, then I mean, oh [ __ ] idiot.
- 2:38:55
Say God don't make mistakes. Yo, can someone here segue us into
- 2:39:03
something mature? No. No. Why we got to be mature? Perry menopause. I [ __ ] you up there.
- 2:39:11
I know the per menopause. Unsafe subject up here. Mhm. Kind of like Palestine. Got it. Anyways,
- 2:39:18
what the boom? She got you [ __ ] Stop. Me too. She's not allowed to express herself.
- 2:39:23
that [ __ ] Stop it. Okay, I got a great segue. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. See, I tried to be I tried to behave
- 2:39:30
today. Can y'all stop talking over Mel? Who has a great segue? Chris Hansen is back to Catch a
- 2:39:35
Predator. Only now it's on Roblox. This Roblox [ __ ] is sick. It is. And you [ __ ] that Chris Hansen caught
- 2:39:41
in that little two family. Y'all [ __ ] I just think about y'all over the weekend. Yo,
- 2:39:47
where can I go back and watch every episode of To Catch a Predator? That's like boondock. That [ __ ] was the best.
- 2:39:53
That's like boondocks to me. No, the TCAP Sundays was the best [ __ ] ever. Yeah. Oh my god. Whole timeline.
- 2:39:59
No. U Sundays. Tap Sundays to catch a park. Tac,
- 2:40:05
that [ __ ] was religious. Stopping to watch you [ __ ] that they used to catch parking like sometimes they come.
- 2:40:12
No, the [ __ ] be funny. Yo, you bought boon farm and condoms.
- 2:40:18
It's lube. Well, it's children that they're trying to No, I know. Just the thought of watches.
- 2:40:25
Yo, you stopped at the store and boy now ladies and vodka.
- 2:40:30
That's a crazy. Yo, yeah, he had a Why are you here? [ __ ] be like, I don't know. I don't I
- 2:40:38
I don't know why. I have a friend in the area. Chris Hansen should have got slid more than he did.
- 2:40:44
Predators. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, if it was some black cuz some of them episodes
- 2:40:49
No, there been some black people there to beat his ass. Some of them episodes the cops was slow to act, right? Cuz in the episode they wait till you come outside and the cops
- 2:40:55
right you think you can leave dog in in the house. I beat the
- 2:41:01
I beat the dog [ __ ] out of kids Chris Hansen. If you catch me on some Demon He was tall, man. Remember?
- 2:41:08
Oh yeah, we interviewed Chris. We had friend of the show. He's like 66. I did. One of you [ __ ] touched Chris Hans
- 2:41:16
y'all [ __ ] slide you [ __ ] for Chris Chris Hans would have got his anyway on Roblox there was
- 2:41:22
on Roblox there's a there was a person that was identifying the pedophiles and sexual predators and people that were
- 2:41:29
targeting children. I think the the the viewing audience was shocked at Roblox's response to this
- 2:41:36
which was to demonize him and ban him and sue him. So that made the audience
- 2:41:42
be like, "Well, what is y'all position on sexual predators and pedophiles?" Y'all should have gave him a job.
- 2:41:49
That's what I would have think. They should have gave the guy a job. Oh, the reporting guy. Yeah. The guy that's finding all
- 2:41:55
I was confused. The guy that's finding the predators and reporting them. They should have gave him a job. Like, "Yo, dog, you want to
- 2:42:00
work in sec?" You know what I'm saying? For sure. Instead of [ __ ] banning them and suing them. I thought you were saying something else. My bad.
- 2:42:06
Like, yo, that And I'm glad Chris Hansen is I I like Chris Hansen. He was This is fire. I I
- 2:42:12
can't understand Roblox's position on this one. This is when you got suits in charge that just they they they don't
- 2:42:18
have the pulse on. Yeah, I didn't I didn't get it. Sometimes they could throw sometimes a problem could get thrown over your plate
- 2:42:25
and you can turn that into a net positive. A home run for sure. Yeah, you can hit that [ __ ] out of the park, but their handling of this is a
- 2:42:32
little confusing. I haven't seen if any Roblox spokesperson has released a statement or something. [ __ ] start coming out with the
- 2:42:37
liability issue. So immediately we won't want to accept liability for the this being uh
- 2:42:44
almost like a gateway to that. Exactly. To vigilanteism.
- 2:42:50
No. Being a gateway to pedophilia or to some predatory [ __ ] They don't want to
- 2:42:55
admit that. Got it. You get what I'm saying? So now we going to cut ties to everything so we can reduce our liability. I think it's a bad
- 2:43:02
move. I think they should have got out in front of it to be like, "Yo, we accept what you did. we're thankful for
- 2:43:07
what you did and we're offering you a position because this has no place and we don't want it to do that. I think
- 2:43:12
that would have been there. I think a lot of parents a lot of parents would have felt that. Me as a parent with a kid that's on
- 2:43:18
Roblox often would have would have really appreciated that sentiment instead of cuz now I got to do Roblox's job. And I was just going to say I mean we
- 2:43:25
shouldn't have to but we have to anyway. Like I'm like that on top of all of that
- 2:43:30
[ __ ] I I'm saying this to all the parents out there. Yo, go through those parental settings,
- 2:43:36
adjust them accordingly. I was talking to Mark um last week. Yo, everything, all of your devices,
- 2:43:42
your iPad, all of this [ __ ] has the settings there. A lot of people just don't know. And these, not for nothing, these kids
- 2:43:48
are more technologically advanced than a lot of parents today. So, you hand them a device, what you
- 2:43:54
think they doing and what they're actually doing be two different things. So, you have to look into these settings
- 2:43:59
all the way down to give a kid an iPad. Hey, open it, go into screen time, set
- 2:44:04
parameters. Yeah, I guess you should do videos on that. Like all the ways to help parents like
- 2:44:10
all this, you know, do the settings, adjust the settings. You should do that. You should post that on your page or
- 2:44:15
something because you've been very helpful with, you know, anytime. I don't know what the [ __ ] going on with my phone. I got you. That's actually great.
- 2:44:22
That [ __ ] is scary. But yeah, it's it's it's it's real scary. is these apps like Roblox. Um, even with the VR shits, V VR
- 2:44:31
chat, the other one, Minecraft, where adults, you you you get to create an avatar pretty much. So, you don't
- 2:44:39
know who you're talking to. Oh, yeah. That's not about That's not funny.
- 2:44:44
But you really have no idea who you talking to and what they're saying to your kids. That's what happened when them little I won't say no companies but
- 2:44:51
them little virtual world [ __ ] with your avatars and they was running around breaking the law and then the company
- 2:44:58
had to figure out what to do now because your avatar is running around graping
- 2:45:03
like yeah we they'll just end it. They'll just end it because Yeah. That's a lot to that's a lot to have to deal
- 2:45:09
with as a company. Yeah. Like I understand what the Roblox people think and what it's just wrong. They just handle it wrong.
- 2:45:16
hundreds of millions of dollars. Deal with it. They might give a [ __ ] to deal with as a company. Deal with it.
- 2:45:22
The company might have looked at it as, yo, it's bringing too much negative attention, so let's just move that and make may they might be
- 2:45:28
trying to do something on the on the back end on their own we don't know about. You handled it wrong publicly no matter what.
- 2:45:34
What's up? Totally irrelevant. Okay. Do y'all trust Mr. Beast's smile?
- 2:45:41
I got a list of them. I'm not going to hold you. I'm just asking I ask the tough questions here today. Hey, how
- 2:45:47
does this panel feel about when Mr. Beast is smiling? Hey, what do y'all think?
- 2:45:53
I did not see that coming. I'm about to Google this [ __ ] I'm what you smile look like. It looks a little maniacal.
- 2:45:58
Uh-huh. Just slightly. Oh, they've been attacking him online. Oh, he on the list with Blippy. I mean, he
- 2:46:05
you know, he raised he just look him up. Blippy. He raised $12 million either.
- 2:46:10
Nah, he don't look like Mr. Beast. He raised 12 million to give people water that doesn't have clean water
- 2:46:16
and they've been attacking work. Yeah. Moving on. Yeah. It's it's a it's a
- 2:46:23
we just we can move on. Yeah. Let's move on, please. I'm sorry. Thank you. Give y'all some age perspective. Uh John
- 2:46:29
Wall has retired from the NBA. It made me feel a little bit old cuz I remember
- 2:46:34
when he was in college. Remember when he was drafted? He's played a full NBA career. Wasn't like an early injury situation. Has he retired from [ __ ] [ __ ]
- 2:46:41
Nah, I think he's doing that full time now. Hey, I can care less about the sports aspect of things. That [ __ ] had
- 2:46:49
Tommy John and was still out there causing a
- 2:46:55
sticking Tommy James.
- 2:47:00
Shout out to John Wall, man. Shout out to John Wall. Kentucky legend, Washington DC legend, one of the fastest
- 2:47:07
with the ball in his hand. Baseline to baseline crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Sh. Damn. I didn't real dude too.
- 2:47:12
I didn't understand all that douge [ __ ] when he was doing it, but I gained understanding and real cool dude. Real
- 2:47:18
cool dude. You know what I mean? When I was broke in the DC clubs, man. I think he let me [ __ ] pour some mo or some
- 2:47:24
[ __ ] when I hear that over here. That's back when I was creeping in [ __ ] sections.
- 2:47:32
Make it look like we here together. Hey [ __ ] take the Come on, Johnny Nunes. Hurry up. Take take the pick. Yo, you
- 2:47:39
remember that time we went to stadium, bro? Yes. Yeah. Yo,
- 2:47:44
I remember everywhere I went broke. Yo, that was na. We we we that was nasty. Whatever.
- 2:47:50
He You remember? Yeah. That was nasty. Went to stadium with no money, dog. Not just that stadium accommodated
- 2:47:56
[ __ ] and let [ __ ] sit on the like it was the VIP owned the stage or some [ __ ] too.
- 2:48:02
Y'all borrow money from the strip club. It was bad. It was bad.
- 2:48:09
It's just flabbergast. [Laughter]
- 2:48:15
Oh [ __ ] You gave [ __ ] a performance. You a perform at the Marriott afterward.
- 2:48:23
That little cheap [ __ ] right there on New York Avenue. M. Yo,
- 2:48:29
the [ __ ] you talking about? We in that little Marriott DC. Yeah. Yes, sir. Hello.
- 2:48:36
I'll be back in 2 minutes. The stadium still open? No. Right. No. The funny [ __ ] about stadium is crazy.
- 2:48:42
That was a That was a worldass steakhouse next door. Oh [ __ ] I mean,
- 2:48:48
cuz they had a restaurant next door. That That restaurant was one of the best steakouses around. [ __ ]
- 2:48:54
And they would bring the food over to you while you [ __ ] with the [ __ ] Anyway, forget it, man. Cool. Forget it. Look at
- 2:49:01
I randomly thought about that [ __ ] We look terrible in there that night. Come out with me one night, man. Come
- 2:49:06
out with me. Come out with me one night. Steak sausage. It's a me.
- 2:49:13
Went to starless with Jermaine Depri. How was it? Oh, how was it? Fun. It was a fun time.
- 2:49:18
It was a good night or a bad night there. Bad night is what made it a good night. Okay. Like it was a just us.
- 2:49:25
And then just came. Justice [ __ ] scissor and [ __ ] black justice. And he came
- 2:49:31
summer. Yeah. Summer. Yeah. Summer. I'm sorry. And uh my man Chad was there, who apparently is JD's
- 2:49:38
best friend. Chad used to be a producer. I don't know what he's doing now, but he looks amazing. Okay. Still looks amazing. We had a really good time in
- 2:49:43
there. Uh but JD is from Atlanta, so I mean I'm coming here to sit at Holly Bar cuz
- 2:49:48
that's the homie, right?
- 2:49:54
Holly was in there. Yeah, Holly working. There's nobody in there. So I'm sitting there cuz that's the homie.
- 2:49:59
Mhm. But now you're out of town, [ __ ] It is. Mhm. Oh, I'm here for you.
- 2:50:08
We had a good time. She walked over there with that soft skin. We had We had a good time in there that night. She always got to touch your hand. She
- 2:50:13
give you a Red Bull. She touch your hand. She know the game. What? She had to give him a lot. She know She know the game.
- 2:50:19
Uhhuh. She know the game. She was She was She was walking down to have a conversation at the other end of the bar and J,
- 2:50:27
[Music] I know that's on. Go ahead. Go ahead. Live, [ __ ] We We can't be in
- 2:50:32
here together too long. Uh, but we had a good time. You sit back watching [ __ ]
- 2:50:39
Mhm. Yeah, we had too much fun. I had tape some [ __ ] and put it out. I was like, man, I'm going to delete that before people
- 2:50:44
wake up. Um, let me see what else is important. What is on my list? Uh, Freddy and Benny
- 2:50:51
squashing in the airport or or not. Or maybe. Yeah, I don't know. I
- 2:50:56
hope so. Or not. It it looked dope. The airport is another one of those
- 2:51:01
places, man, where play around. Play around, [ __ ] They got you [ __ ] at the airport. Dungeon
- 2:51:08
play that [ __ ] at the airport. Yeah. No, somebody might dungeon you in the airport. Yeah. Gatwick or the
- 2:51:14
You said, I want to have beef with somebody that know we shouldn't fight in the airport or Mhm.
- 2:51:20
For real. Good. You got hope. Yeah. I don't have any faith in society.
- 2:51:26
there. He probably looking for us. We're going on a side mission.
- 2:51:31
We got to wait and see. Real time reporting here from Benny and Freddy at the airport.
- 2:51:41
Westside at some point started commentating. I thought that this was that's what this was here. Taking a while. Let's see.
- 2:51:47
No, you might have got that might be the other video. N this ain't the one. That's the other. Where's the one of my man commentating
- 2:51:52
this [ __ ] Man, I like what he said. Me, too. We ain't going to keep Yo, look. Either it's all out or nothing.
- 2:51:58
Like, what we doing? What are we doing? We're not going to keep doing this. Either y'all going to go all out war or we Y'all can this [ __ ] now.
- 2:52:05
Yo, I don't I don't support that [ __ ] This platform is too big. So, let me not even play around. I don't support none
- 2:52:10
of that beef [ __ ] It happened already. Y'all did what y'all did. Y'all both are putting projects out. You both two of
- 2:52:16
our better rappers. I [ __ ] with both of y'all. I can't I can't sit here and make jokes about the [ __ ] So, I hope that
- 2:52:23
it's over. I hope that it's squashed. I hope y'all came to some type of understanding. It ain't worth nothing.
- 2:52:29
It ain't worth nothing. That's that's my real opinion on the matter. That's real. But boy, it was funny to see that. And
- 2:52:34
I've been in that situation before. You see somebody [ __ ] at gate 49. It's right your gate right there. Now
- 2:52:40
it's like, all right, we here. [ __ ] [ __ ] I was beefing with was smart enough to have security with him in the
- 2:52:46
airport. That's when I knew it was levels. My security meet me outside at the parking lot. my man.
- 2:52:52
That's when I learned my man is my security. That's a mistake. It cost a little more
- 2:52:58
for them to come to the gate. Make sure you get on the plane. Shout out to both of those brothers, man. We We not with
- 2:53:03
none of that. Not at all. No. Uh what else? What else? What else? What else? What else is important?
- 2:53:08
Unimportant? Uh I love this part. Everybody shut up. Everybody don't say a word.
- 2:53:15
Mel. Mhm. I think this is a great time to get to that topic that you were so well verssed
- 2:53:20
on. Nah. Am I though? I'll just say the the the broad strokes. None of us wanted to talk about it.
- 2:53:26
Really? Well, we didn't bring it up. Like I saw him out. Okay. Well, Candace Owens is being sued
- 2:53:32
right now. Um she's being sued because she has doubled down or repeatedly said
- 2:53:39
and then doubled down that the um president of France's wife is a man and
- 2:53:46
they are now suing her for defamation. And she is well there's actually a video
- 2:53:51
of her talking about this and she's wondering where President Trump and JD Vance are now that she's being sued.
- 2:53:58
Yep. You got it queued up. I got queued up. What do you know? I mean there you go. Right there. Ready? That is not it.
- 2:54:05
There you go. Right. What's your screen saver? What's that? It's me and my mom. Oh, okay. That's beautiful. Like it just look
- 2:54:13
trickling. Oh, that's the best picture. Right out of there. If it was your dad, it'd be
- 2:54:18
okay. Okay, here we go. No, that's not the one. Yeah,
- 2:54:23
it's fine. Okay, I'll find it. Yeah, but what do you think about it? Um well, also what she's also doing is
- 2:54:29
um selling t-shirts um to, you know, try and raise funds for, you know, her her
- 2:54:35
legal fees, which she says are going to be really really high. And um well, I mean, like that's I mean, that's kind of
- 2:54:41
like what you get. You can't walk around [ __ ] defaming people. You can't It's called liel. You can't do that. And a
- 2:54:48
lot of opinion is spoken as if it's fact and there's a consequence for that. And
- 2:54:54
that's that's the take. Yeah. It's it's interesting to watch this play out. Uh one of the things
- 2:55:00
Candace Owens does is traffic and conspiracies and conspiracy theories. And the internet is filled with right-wing conspiracy theories, whether
- 2:55:07
it's pizzagate, whether all these things, right? And one of the ones that was circulating is and they did this
- 2:55:13
with Michelle Obama too to some extent is that Breijit Mcronone, the wife of
- 2:55:18
Emanuel Mcronone, president of France, um was born a was born a male at birth and has been masquerading as a woman
- 2:55:25
ever since. And they start showing pictures and try to pull up her family tree and they try to do all these things to make you believe it's true. The
- 2:55:31
evidence isn't good, right? Because it's I don't it's not true. Let me be clear. It's not true. Got it. Us here, we here at the Joe Bton podcast
- 2:55:37
saying it's not true. Got it. But even if you were inclined to believe her, she hasn't made a good case for it. I think part of why they do that
- 2:55:45
is because they assume that this person is so big and so famous and in another country that I can make all this money
- 2:55:51
with conspiracy theories and they're not going to do [ __ ] If I say the prime minister of I don't know, wherever Uganda, whatever, like Germany.
- 2:55:57
Yeah. Done some [ __ ] Yeah. If I they're not thinking about me on over here. But Kansas Owens has a huge platform and
- 2:56:04
sometimes they have they have time today. That's actually where the phrase comes from today.
- 2:56:09
And they repeatedly asked her to stop. She was repeatedly asked to stop. So then they went to hire they went and
- 2:56:15
hired a PI to try to figure out um just how deep the rabbit hole went on this particular subject to find out who
- 2:56:22
she might be aligned with and they discovered a lot of stuff as to who she's aligned with that are their
- 2:56:28
enemies from like other countries, right? So and sometimes you become and I don't mean this to disrespect Candace, but you
- 2:56:34
become a useful idiot for people, right? like she might actually believe I I don't think Candace is necessarily lying. I think she might actually
- 2:56:40
believe this conspiracy theory because these people are in her ear feeding her information that may or may not be true cuz I've heard again I've watched this
- 2:56:46
play out before. But she's going to take the brunt of the heat for it, not these people behind the scenes. She's the one who's going to she
- 2:56:52
could lose all of her money and reaching out to Trump and them. For me, it reminds me of what's the point guard New York that just got
- 2:56:57
locked up? Um Sebastian. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. uh
- 2:57:03
uh when he he got caught in caught up in his NBA healthc care scam um sentenced
- 2:57:09
to some you know some a small stretch in prison. He's about to go off now. He's on camera asking Donald Trump for a
- 2:57:15
pardon. That's the same as Joe Exotic asking for. Exactly. Everybody thinks Donald Trump, especially these negroes, think Donald
- 2:57:21
Trump is going to save them and he's not at all at all. Right. That's the other thing.
- 2:57:26
Trump actually told her to stop cuz Trump doesn't want smoke with France. He got enough enemies in Europe. He don't
- 2:57:32
need another one, right? Not not based on Candace Owens or any other, you know, right-wing commentator. So, Trump ain't
- 2:57:38
going to save you. But there's a lesson out there for for all y'all celebrities out there, especially you black right leaning ones. Trump is not your savior.
- 2:57:43
He's not your messiah. He not. Well, and this lesson we've talked about here with just much smaller bloggers
- 2:57:50
that just say [ __ ] about people and then end up getting sued. We we've been saying that you cannot
- 2:57:55
I know we in the what what it push [ __ ] uh saying uh they content create
- 2:58:01
I despise that like I know we in that era now. Yeah. So you called it [ __ ] uh meddling
- 2:58:08
peddling conspiracy theory. [ __ ] are just saying [ __ ] and you can't
- 2:58:13
we do need to get back to some type of checks and balance checks and balance absolutely something.
- 2:58:20
Yeah. You can't just say that [ __ ] is a dude, right?
- 2:58:25
No, but the funny part is they were doing that [ __ ] to Michelle Obama and Sierra.
- 2:58:31
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Back in the day. I still would like to know how that started.
- 2:58:38
Some hater in their house talking [ __ ] No, but that was like that's it. Yeah, but that was like pre- internet
- 2:58:44
and that [ __ ] still went everywhere. That [ __ ] flew. Yeah. That's I'm like, how did that I get how something could
- 2:58:49
could phone today. The phone game again, man. Because it wasn't pre- internet, but it was pre-ocial media. I'm sorry. Sorry.
- 2:58:57
Social media. So So, but you know, back in the day, the bulletin boards, the chat groups plus gossip radio. I mean, there was a time where all you had to do
- 2:59:03
is hit the power stations or the hot stations and you get if you get one radio dish. I mean, think about what Wendy the Power Wendy Williams had to
- 2:59:09
spread rumors about people. That's all it takes. That's true. That makes sense. Yeah. And unfortunately, yeah,
- 2:59:14
but you can't just run around saying [ __ ] turn around and find out. I ain't got no sympathy.
- 2:59:19
Especially for a civil suit. You deserve it. Especially in this instance because hey, the person you're looking up to to save
- 2:59:25
you said, "Hey, stop." Right. Like the people that's suing you said, "Hey, stop." Oh, you ain't listening to
- 2:59:32
nobody. All right. Well, here you go. Yeah. Deal with it. Don't come crying now.
- 2:59:37
I concur. You'all going to donate to her GoFundMe? Absolutely not.
- 2:59:44
Are you going to donate Mark to her GoFundMe? Uh, I am not. Candace got more money than me.
- 2:59:50
So, Candace is killing it. You killing it. I am not. Does she have more money than you
- 2:59:56
combined? Yes. Yeah. Is that why you two seem to have extra work?
- 3:00:02
I love uh free dialogue. I appreciate her platform. I want Candace to to thrive. Yeah. I'm going to let Mark speak for me
- 3:00:08
on this one. Why do Why do you have an extra grind? I just let Mark speak for me on this one. I concur. We have no access to grind on
- 3:00:13
Ken. Look at him. Ken Ken's been on Night School Pizza Hut spokesman.
- 3:00:22
In this instance, I will be Pizza Hut. What else? Uh, what else is important or unimportant to you guys? Know it.
- 3:00:28
Yo, tell us y'all you you and Ish had a beef with the out of state contractors. Man, it's don't have to be for nobody. Um,
- 3:00:33
y'all was talking about them. We was talking about topics to go on the board, so I tossed one out there, which was how
- 3:00:40
the contractors act when you live in a whole another state and you done paid them some money to do a job and then they ain't finished in 14 months.
- 3:00:47
Jesus. And they just standing there. They take their time. They started Yeah. He wrote some [ __ ] on
- 3:00:53
some walls with a He wrote some X's like a X here, a T over here, a I here. The
- 3:00:59
cabinet is down. He was writing exit. The crib ain't but [ __ ] 600 square
- 3:01:05
ft. Oh man. They've been [ __ ] mad long, dog. That's your family. I mean, I don't want
- 3:01:11
to say where it is, but or what it is cuz it's known, but yeah, these [ __ ] are crazy.
- 3:01:18
I tell people, and then I show up. I'm trying to have a serious conversation. Mad as could be talking about I'm sitting like you going
- 3:01:24
to smile in my face. Money talking now. I just try to keep a smile on every day because life can get rough, [ __ ] I'mma kill you. Oh, it's about to get rough
- 3:01:30
right now, [ __ ] Life is about to get rough in two seconds. You better leave that [ __ ] alone. That
- 3:01:36
That sound like the reply of a nutcase. I'm smiling, [ __ ] I'm smiling because in my head,
- 3:01:43
I done killed all you. You better leave a [ __ ] I mean, I don't really have much to say.
- 3:01:48
These contractors are nothing. Contracts are trash when you when they instate. Yeah. Yeah. I like they come every day. They might
- 3:01:54
take twice as long. I tell [ __ ] all the time like, "Stop playing with that out of state property [ __ ] Everybody think that's the move.
- 3:02:00
Could just go to Detroit. Yo, they giving classes away for a dollar. I know. Go ahead. Keep playing down.
- 3:02:05
Oh, yes. That Angela Ye portfolio. What? Yo, don't don't say that.
- 3:02:13
No, she did go down there. She documented it. It was a thing. I'm not being funny. She went down there when
- 3:02:18
[ __ ] was reportedly low and and caked up. I think she built some housing for women, too, right? Mhm.
- 3:02:23
Yeah. Actually, I think I'm joking around. It just does sound funny. I was about to Say Mel did where that little town Mel
- 3:02:30
went to and bought some houses. Jersey City. Pittsburgh. Where you went? Jersey City. Mel been
- 3:02:37
having a time too. They've been on kicking your ass. You don't never come talk about it. What are you talking about? Remember you wanted to get some [ __ ]
- 3:02:42
out of there. You had some real estate problems. You was having stressing. Oh, no. Insurance. It was insurance. The
- 3:02:51
insurance was playing with me. Did you settle trade? You had a claim. No, it's not that. like the the
- 3:02:57
insurance companies suddenly don't want to insure homes that have flat roofs. And I was like, you know what has flat
- 3:03:03
roofs? [ __ ] brownstones. You know what has a lot of brownstones? Jersey and [ __ ] New York. So, how are you
- 3:03:08
going to say that we don't want to like insure? That was the issue. It was like it was ridiculous. So, you only have a brownstone.
- 3:03:14
Yes. Is it brown? Like, it's the building is brown. Yes, it is.
- 3:03:20
All right. This is Mel doing her thing again. All right. How many people believe it's a brownstone? I see. Cuz if it's a brown Is it a
- 3:03:26
brownstone? I've seen it. Is it a brownstone? Is it a brownstone? Mhm. Never mind.
- 3:03:31
That was not convincing it. What you want me to say? I said I've seen it. I said yes. Like like that was on the Cosby Show.
- 3:03:38
Similar way. My [ __ ] you're from Jersey City. You
- 3:03:45
know, Jersey City certain areas got mad brownstones. That is true. They they do. I also know that those may be different
- 3:03:52
than the ones that are in Brooklyn. I mean, no, they're comparable, are they? Yes. Yeah.
- 3:03:57
Over there. Jersey A. All by that little parking show. And you don't want a [ __ ] with a hat. Come right over there.
- 3:04:05
Girl, go. I got cameras. Leave my [ __ ] alone. He going to come over there. Offer you a nice alarm systems and [ __ ] I don't live
- 3:04:11
over there. Yo, why you ain't just ask for an insurance company? I I got it worked out. I promise.
- 3:04:17
I'm tenacious. I'm resilient. before like if [ __ ] falls apart, I'll ask you.
- 3:04:23
Gotcha. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that though. Anyhoos, how do you pick and choose what to ask
- 3:04:30
is and what to ask Mark and what to ask like your your network.
- 3:04:36
I think about what everybody's strengths are. Can you tell us what our strengths are? No, not right now.
- 3:04:43
[ __ ] What are what are our We don't even know. No.
- 3:04:48
Uh, let's see. Let's see. Let's see what else. What else? What else? What else is important? Unimportant. I did bump into
- 3:04:53
Murder Mook at the airport when I landed in Columbia. Oh. Uh, you see the face off?
- 3:04:58
I saw parts of it, but I didn't need to. I seen Hitman Holler freestyle.
- 3:05:05
I saw Murder Moo in the airport down there. Oh, they had it already. The face off. Face off. Not the battle.
- 3:05:10
The battle was next month. I'm just saying I landed and saw Murder MOO face to face. I saw
- 3:05:17
How'd that go? Yeah, he was very sober. He was headed out
- 3:05:22
there for the face off. He looked very focused. That's all I took from He looked like he ain't even remember
- 3:05:28
none of them jokes. I said, "Joe, what up? Love you. Good to see you. I'm out here. My daughter's in college. Got to
- 3:05:34
make a run. Get with you. Yeah, we got the face off." Now, he remember he ain't want to have the frivolous rap.
- 3:05:40
He's over that [ __ ] I'm I'm talking [ __ ] But I'm just saying he looked focused and sober. I'mma keep it a buck. I watch the face
- 3:05:45
off. I ain't never seen that focused of a MOO. Like he looked like
- 3:05:53
I don't think it bolds well for Hitman. Yo dog, when Murder Moo is on his agame, I don't think we've seen his agame.
- 3:06:00
No, no, we've seen his game. No, no, no. I say that we've seen we've seen his agame. Changes. Let me Let me finish. I don't
- 3:06:06
think we've seen the agame he's coming with because I've never seen him look this focused prior to a battle.
- 3:06:12
That's what I'm Did you see him prior to uh what's the [ __ ] you was at? Total Slaughter. Yes. I saw him and his peoples when they
- 3:06:19
walked in and he didn't look like that. Two one Moo. I don't know if I don't want to write
- 3:06:25
Hitman off. It's It's I can't do that. But I'm I'm not about to be stupid. I'm going to one Moo. I'm not betting
- 3:06:30
against Moo ever. Not as focused as he was. Yeah. All of the performative Excuse me.
- 3:06:37
All of the performative [ __ ] that Hitman was doing, the jokes and all that, Moo was just sitting there like, "Bro, listen. Let's go. Yeah. And that level
- 3:06:45
of it was like a cerebral cerebral game he was playing with him where I'm not even Let's go. I I will battle you now.
- 3:06:54
My segue that has nothing to do with battle rap. So now all y'all [ __ ] out there want to [ __ ] Jamie Lee Curtis.
- 3:06:59
Huh? Hardy ass. Yeah. I did I miss this? Why? Because of Freaky Friday.
- 3:07:05
No, she got promo. She got a little cleavage out. Mhm. Jamie Lee Kurt like
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Yeah. Yes. The Jamie Lee Curtis. Another Jamie Lee Curtis. No, no, it's that one. No. The Jamie Lee Curtis cut a promo for
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some Disney [ __ ] she's doing. They did freak Friday, which is freaky like the movie Friday. Freak
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Freakier Friday. Yeah. And she had some cleavage out and
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everybody got [ __ ] started to hear me out. Got horny. Jamie say she mad. Oh word.
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And she's been nude in movies before. I'm pretty sure. Now I would have knocked her head off in that Arma Wilson [ __ ] [ __ ] You would
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have knocked her head off yesterday. No, True Lies. She looked amazing in True Lies. But you said you would [ __ ] Jeie, but
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we've named when we did the white milk list. But have you seen
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Have I seen what? Look at a picture of Genie Bus. All I'm saying is that Ish is said on
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his pod that I mean, oh yeah, if you look Who cares how old you are? Jamie Lee Curtis don't look like Genie
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Bus. Yeah. So you would not [ __ ] Jamie Lee Curts? No. Did you see the the picture? No.
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Oh, okay. I've seen her. I told y'all I'll pop Martha Stewart and I wouldn't pop Jamie Lee Curtis.
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Whatever y'all cooking over there, I'm eating some of it. Yeah, [ __ ] Y'all doing a lot of movement. I'm
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smelling ribs. Whatever's going on over there, I'm eating some of it. So, I'm just telling
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y'all, these [ __ ] doing a lot before sleepers. Where was sleeper?
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He said, "Fuck now. We taking lunch now." Um, let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Uh, Chance album is crazy.
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Uh, new kin the man. We'll get to that. Gunels 80k. Uh,
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oh yeah. Okay. I have down here. Let's play. Who's a billionaire only cuz I listened to y'all the last episode and
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we do that a lot. We do that a lot. We got to We have to stop doing that. What?
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Well, I think it was you that said that JD's a billionaire last episode. I said he probably knocking on it. And I
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think that what we don't do is everybody don't be wanting the um the public notoriety of everybody being in their
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business. Like it's a bunch of billionaires that Forbes have not acknowledged cuz they don't want to play that game.
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I don't even want to throw Forbes in cuz then that blurs the line. No, I'm just giving you an example cuz a lot of people take the billionaire thing
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only from Forbes. How many billionaires you think there are in the world? No, not in the world cuz But in our
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entertainment circle, in our entertainment world. Our entertainment. I don't believe there's as many as
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20. We say maybe 10 20 20. I don't think it's 20. I don't even think it's Yeah.
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Uh Tyler, Perry, Jay-Z, Oprah, Rihanna.
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That's four. Beyonce. Braun. Beyonce. Is she official by herself?
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I think so. She's knocking. If she's not there, she was knocking on the door. Like I'm saying J D has had a high level of
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success for the last 30 plus years in the music industry as a writer, as a
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producer, as a choreographer, label owner, all of that [ __ ] He was doing that [ __ ] at a high level when [ __ ]
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was interns. So if Puff is potentially knocking on the door to a billion dollars, which people say he is,
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not through music. Yeah, that's it. You get what I'm saying? A lot of the entertainers that
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got to the beat left music and did something else. They did other [ __ ] But a lot of people that were
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entertainers weren't as hands-on as him. Like that nigga's writing for Mariah.
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That [ __ ] is writing for he's writing platinum and diamond albums, bro. He his
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his his involvement in music and I'm sure what his royalties look like. You don't believe Mariah's a billionaire?
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No. And you don't believe Usher's a billionaire? No. Then why? I think I think he's worth
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like a quart of a bill. A quarter of a billion. I don't think he's particularly close, but and that ain't nothing to sneeze at.
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But a billion. No. And again, I don't know if he's a billionaire. I'm saying I think he's he's closer than what we might give him
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credit for. I really enjoyed our Jermaine Debree interview. Amazing. It was great. It was great.
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I really really really enjoyed our Jermaine Debree interview. It was really really great. It was it was I really enjoyed it. Um, I don't have
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anything else that is super uber. Well, you got Nick Canon. Nick,
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I don't have him at a billion. 300 million. No, I don't have it close to a billion.
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I think we getting I've met 300. I bet Nick is worth $100 million. Between 75 and $100 million tops,
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right? If I were just guessing. Yeah, right. You said 175 tops. No, between like 75 and 100. A billion
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dollars. A lot of [ __ ] millions. You got them at a lot. A half. A half a billion.
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From where though? Nick Cannon. From where? 50 million. Half the talk. It's an interesting talk. From where? Let me see. Um.
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Yeah. 50 million. Nick Cannon owns Wild Out. Whing out. He's owned Wilding Out 100% for over a
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decade before MTV got wind of him owning it 100%. He came up here and said that. Whether he's
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lying or telling the truth, we don't know. And Canon has had mad all of the [ __ ] that we don't take stake in like
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that. uh mass singer and all that stupid [ __ ] Bro, those are hit shows. We don't
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watch them. Old people, them shirts are hit hit shows that we don't be giving [ __ ] credit for. Some of these people
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be behind the scenes and be the executive producer on the show or the creator of those shows that be getting
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pitched to networks. That [ __ ] said, "Yo, my [ __ ] I was 17 years old. I had an office. I was the president of
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[ __ ] Def Jam Kids and was the vice president of Nickelodeon at 17 years
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old. These [ __ ] be having a lot of executive money that be coming in the door that we don't know about. They be
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creating mad [ __ ] I remember Nick Cannon bought [ __ ] what was the clothing line? PNB.
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I don't know. Back in the day. Yeah. PNB Nation. Like he bought that [ __ ] 20 years ago. Like [ __ ] was doing a bunch
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of [ __ ] I don't know. I'm Cuz we pocket watching. We just assuming. I'm just saying I think a lot of [ __ ] It's interesting that you have him where
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you have him in Namariah. When [ __ ] always said that he said when he first my money my money and her money ain't
- 3:13:14
when he first met her. He said he said yo when I first met her it was a
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different animal. But when I walked out the door when we was finished it wasn't a different animal no more. That's what
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he said. What does the internet have Nick Cannon's worth at? 50 million. 50 million. 50 million. Mariah network is 350 million.
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That's what I'm saying. And I think that can't worth 50 million. Even if you were worth five times that, that's still Yeah, I'm with Mark. Even
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if I gave him the 50 might be wrong. Cool. The 50 might be under selling it. I Whatever it is, I don't have them at
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close to uh I don't have close to half a billion. Billion. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of [ __ ] money. It's hard
- 3:13:50
to be worth a billion dollars. If anything, I think more people are over inflating their their they're inflating
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their net worth. Not I don't think it's too big. [ __ ] just read while y'all was talking what what the internet got Jermaine Dupri at and I was like this can't be
- 3:14:02
right cannot be right million huh 3 million 3 million 3 million
- 3:14:07
that's wrong 3 million said it said it said he peaked in the mid 2000s at 60 million but due
- 3:14:14
to bad business deals tax leans and foreclosures his net worth has dramatically decreased
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I don't care how much it decreased it ain't million of course I'm not rolling with that I'm saying like that but that
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proves your point yeah Well, it's I I I think some people Yeah. I I think some people don't
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report, but this to think that he was somehow now worth a bill, particularly given one, he doesn't claim to be. Um,
- 3:14:37
and given how much he's committed to showing that he's a peer of Dre and Puff
- 3:14:44
and all these people. It seems hard to me that he would all let all these people claim billionaire status or near billionaire status
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and and he's so far from it. I think if anything, it'd be the opposite. All of them that you've mentioned, the Dres, the Puffs, they all kind of
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did the same thing. They built something up and sold it off. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? Headphones alcohol.
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Yeah. Closed. And he's not doing That's a billion. Yeah. Any of those avenues
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or half, you know, they got they got Joe net worth at $6 million as of April.
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And it said that when Joe's net worth was $2. See what I'm saying? Well, no, it's at four.
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4 million. It's at 4 million when it was $2. Yeah. I I'm not saying the internet is accurate, you know? I don't
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We know the internet's not accurate. Yeah. Especially like the AI searches, but I'm saying some things are just based on my own calculations of what
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people of what's possible. Has to come from somewhere. Yeah. Like I I could imagine where
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certain things come from. Other, you know, you know, like I said, if you're not selling a business off, if you're not having these ancillary things, it's
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hard to imagine a That's a lot of money. Billion dollar. Now I see he go and sell back to Nick
- 3:15:48
Cannon. He go and sell Wall and Out to Viacom for boom. Now we got Now we now
- 3:15:54
now I see where it comes from. Yeah. How much you think a TV show is worth? Watch the TV show. Yeah. L Out.
- 3:16:00
Oh, his TV show you saying? Or just something of of that nature? You think it's worth a billion dollars?
- 3:16:05
No. No. Think it's worth $500 million? No. I don't think it's worth $50 million. No, it depends on the show.
- 3:16:11
It depends on the show. I don't think that Wing Out is worth $100 million. If if academics said that
- 3:16:18
he they he got offered 35 or $40 million for half of his catalog, that's what academics came up here and said, "We
- 3:16:24
don't know if it's accurate. We don't know if he's telling the truth. But if academics half of academics catalog is
- 3:16:30
worth 35 to $40 million while and out is worth $100 million and that's our problem right there. I
- 3:16:36
don't apples and oranges and it's also listen to this. All right, cool. We had a great I mean I
- 3:16:43
don't know anything about streaming but I know a decent amount about how a TV show. I I I can't think of any syndicated show of wild and out sort the
- 3:16:50
kind that when you look at what it was rating even on MTV and its prime I can't see anybody paying $100 million for that
- 3:16:56
or 50 or I mean you got it. I don't want to drop it too much. I could count four to five shows that
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are worth a billion dollars. Yeah. I didn't say boondocks. I don't think the Boondock's not worth a
- 3:17:09
million. You got to go to Wheel of Fortune. You can go to like the need.
- 3:17:15
This is a quick South Park just got 1.5. This is a quick two months ago. A quick 1.5. What? This is a quick Oh, then that's what I
- 3:17:21
was talking about. I'm sorry. AI search Seinfeld is worth three billion. Last next the last deal with it was 500
- 3:17:29
million for Netflix. This is Seinfeld. The office. The office is in that stratosphere. I'm
- 3:17:34
sure Cheers maybe is in there. Frasier. He said Seinfeld. That's That's what we That's
- 3:17:40
Simpson probably. I didn't say I didn't say a billion. I didn't say a billion dollars. That's where that stops. He has 20 seasons of a show. That's what
- 3:17:47
you need. The back catalog. The the the 20. He has 20 seasons of a show that have mad replay value. We've been watching
- 3:17:53
[ __ ] Wilding Out for the last 20 years on TV. No, we have not. No, we have not. No, we haven't.
- 3:17:59
That's the thing. Okay. I mean, the ratings don't suggest that. Yeah. No, we haven't. I [ __ ] with Nick and support him and
- 3:18:05
everything. Of course, I don't I don't want to sound like Nick. Yeah, it's not a knock cuz there I think it's a billion.
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I think you said it was a billion. Nick, I said $100 million. Nobody said a billion. I said, "Yo, if academics could
- 3:18:17
get half of his catalog is worth 75 or $80 million." But when you say that, what what is academic catalog? Catalog of what?
- 3:18:25
Whatever he's done. See, that's not a catalog.
- 3:18:30
Now we getting into some [ __ ] that No, I just wanted to understand cuz I don't remember him saying that.
- 3:18:36
Hey, y'all said that. Hey y'all. Said Wallow as a brand is reportedly worth $500 million.
- 3:18:42
No, if it says that Nick claims that it's worth 500, but as a brand, right, that's different than selling shows. And
- 3:18:49
again, I still don't even think that that's true. But even if I were to accept that premise, if it's if it's worth aund, I said 100.
- 3:18:55
Yeah. I don't I don't think I just I don't want to go in circles, but I I based on any show that's ever been sold
- 3:19:01
in the history of TV, I just that doesn't seem that doesn't seem like a accurate number to me, but I could be wrong. I could be wrong, but I if you
- 3:19:08
look at the again, I don't know if any show on MTV is worth that. Any any sort of I'm just thinking about what the numbers do.
- 3:19:13
The home. Yeah. It's just not a platform that has those that kind of replay. I don't think that there's many shows in
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the history of television that are worth that. Yeah. Or in the future of Yeah. I think a lot
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of money. There might be maybe 20 shows maybe. Gotcha. That are in that. Maybe I'm wrong, but
- 3:19:31
and if I were to pretend that it was a $500 million thing, then I would assume that that's a 10 time multiple.
- 3:19:37
Like right now they said uh Mr. Beast Games through the deal with Amazon is worth $100 million.
- 3:19:43
But right and again, what does it mean to be worth that? Are we talking about licensing or are we talking about
- 3:19:48
ownership? Ownership like I mean net worth goes into whatever your quote unquote assets
- 3:19:54
are. I'm going to say this. If Nick Cannon could sell out right now for $500 million, I guarantee he would have sold it. Nope. I'll tell you that.
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But bro, y'all put in a number that I didn't say. I didn't say $500 million. I'm not responding to you. I'm
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responding to the A. So, he did a he did a Los Angeles Times articles and they had him at $50 million net worth. And he told the Los Angeles
- 3:20:11
Times whether he's telling the truth or he's not, that he makes $100 million a year. This is what he said. So, I don't
- 3:20:16
know if he's telling the truth, but if you give him half of that, he at $50 million a year. Got it. Yeah.
- 3:20:22
If he's lying and saying I make a hundred, I'm going to assume he makes 50. So, let's let's let's play that out. And
- 3:20:28
we think of everybody you know who makes $50 million a year. How many of them are billionaires? I don't know that many people that make
- 3:20:34
Just look at look at sports. I mean, there's a lot of people that make $50 million a year now and none of them are billionaires.
- 3:20:39
Um, they they haven't made $50 million for a long time. I don't know how long they $50 million.
- 3:20:44
I mean, if you think about See, that's the thing because if somebody hit 50 million one year, the
- 3:20:50
general public assumed that they hit that every year. True. because three years ago Nick was scrambling to recover after
- 3:20:57
the the the controversy he had from this stuff he said on his internet show. So I don't So brand deals were going up and down. He's had I'm just saying he's had
- 3:21:05
up and downs and I love and support. I'm just saying he's had ups and downs like everybody else. I don't know. I just I do think that we put the long story
- 3:21:11
short, we put the billion dollars on a lot of Yeah. It's not that many billionaires in the world. And I also don't think it's
- 3:21:18
[ __ ] right to shame or discredit even $50 million. You are rich as [ __ ]
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You are [ __ ] loaded. If you had $50 million even Joe's little 20.
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Yeah. You know, [ __ ] it. You doing a little 20? It's a little 20.
- 3:21:39
Little you. Got a little. I'm just saying that 20 will be 100 before you know it. There you go. Hey, we all
- 3:21:46
we all going to benefit from just keep doing what y'all supposed
- 3:21:52
get the real workers. If y'all keep working hard at 20, we going to be good, y'all.
- 3:21:58
We going to be good. We going to fix all that. Uh, was it par what? Yeah.
- 3:22:04
Periwinkle. Par. Yeah, periscope. Mel got four tricks when she get into
- 3:22:10
buying. Mel got four. You want sleepers? Sleepers.
- 3:22:18
It's about that time. Crazy. Before Before we get out of here, we want to salute our friend of the show,
- 3:22:24
Vince Staples. Season two of the Vince Staples show has a date. November 6th on
- 3:22:29
Netflix. Let's go. We did get that date and we got season two. Salute for that. We waiting for
- 3:22:36
that, Vince. Mhm. Go Netflix for doing the right thing with black content.
- 3:22:41
For real. For real. Round of applause for that. Um, I don't think I have anything else.
- 3:22:48
Did you guys see the uh that content creator couple that was eating doing a restaurant review and then the car crashed
- 3:22:54
and then the glass just shattered and all of their faces? Yeah. Oh my lord. I wish that on no one.
- 3:23:00
I wish that on absolutely no one. Homeboy didn't even have enough time to close his eyes. Like he was his eyes was
- 3:23:07
open during most of that [ __ ] Know how to react to that. They sound good. Yeah. You don't even you don't expect the car to run into you while
- 3:23:12
you're at the restaurant. That's a case and shatter glass case. [ __ ]
- 3:23:19
Guys are gone. Islugas. Well, we figured that about you when you said that you would definitely take your
- 3:23:25
wife to court for her retirement fund. Ex-wife.
- 3:23:30
We We made some judgments. Ex-wife. True. True. True. True. True. True. Uh is there anything else that's weighing
- 3:23:37
on anybody's mind, body, heart, spirit, soul? Come on now. Come on now.
- 3:23:42
Just want to I just want to tell y'all hold it down cuz I'm out of here. Oh, sure. Yeah. Enjoy your vacation.
- 3:23:48
Yeah. Yeah. For sure. For sure. Where you going? Jamaica. Enjoy. Hey, Jamaica. Jamaica. Hey, who you
- 3:23:55
going with? Moms. No, I'm going with my lady. With moms, [ __ ] [ __ ] is you talking about? Yo,
- 3:24:01
this [ __ ] always playing. Yo, what's wrong with you to see ex? Shut the [ __ ] up, [ __ ] To see his pops, right, man?
- 3:24:07
He going to take his mom to see his pops. What the [ __ ] is wrong with you, man? Stop.
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