A Spirited Conversation

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Y'all know, of all people, I'm down to lie on this. But not

today. Not on his birthday? 364 days of the year. Maybe and a half, depending

what time we get out of here. How y'all doing, man? Good, man. Should we

sing happy birthday to Ash? Is the man even looking a little older today? Nah,

for real. Why you looking a little more mature? I hear you, yo. You stupid.

Like on some of your demure levels, it's like... On a thousand right now with

the all black, too, on some 50 humble. Quarter zip hoodie. Combine them,

still young. Old, but I'm young. Young at

heart. This guy's nuts. What up, man? Nothing, man. Good to see you. Happy birthday.

Happy birthday. Happy birthday, man. Happy birthday. Wow. How you feeling,

man? I don't know many. You know, you're officially eligible for AARP now. He was

probably already getting it. Scamming ass. Scamming ass. You been getting on the bus for

half price? He definitely was getting it all. Since 24. Getting his Grand Slam breakfast.

24-year-olds. Get your Grand Slam breakfast. Is this count? At Denny's? Yeah, it's that time,

dog. You get on the bus for half price now, right? You look like a

Denny's ass. Not me. Yeah, you're a fool, bro. What's up, man? Start us

off, man. Start us off in prayer or some shit. What old s*** do? I

don't know. I wasn't up. Set us off with how you feel. How you feel

today? I'm cool. Nah, not at 50. I

waited 40 hours. Don't stop cutting me off, bro. It's the elder in the room.

It's like the eldest being. Yeah, nah. He never even said that to me before.

Right. On some old school shit. You're a fool, yo. Nah, again, yo, coming from

where we from, you blessed. I lost people, a bunch of people this year in

the last couple years, so, you know, that was in their 40s. So for all

of us to be up here is a blessing, but to reach 50 years, it's

an accomplishment. Nah, it's basic. You know what I'm saying? You and Corey are the

oldest I know. Shut your dumb ass. Yo, you a fool, yo. Oh,

shit. You're an idiot, bro. I know we're getting old. My barber said some shit

the other day. He was like, yeah, hove almost 60, right? I was like, no,

shut up. I said, wait. Hold on. I said, wait a second. We had to

Google it. Mm-hmm. How was it? 56, 57? Yeah, it'd be 57 in December. Puff.

That's almost 60. All the niggas is up there. Yeah. Damn, that's crazy. No more

Puff's name in the first 90 minutes of the podcast. I'm just saying, they was

running around when we was kids. They older. Yeah. It was popping 30 years ago,

right? Yeah. Yeah. That 50 and 60 is dangerous. Your hard knock life was 97,

bro. You get home and start doing math. It's not for all? I got 11

more summers in this mother. I got to turn it up. I got to live.

Got to. And your girl in the background running up. Why are you

on the board? Your girl don't even know that you stressed about dying.

What shirt do you like better? I don't care. They talking about laundry, dishes, errands.

Shut up. I'm telling you. All right, man. That shit different. Good to be here

with y'all. If I ain't do this for a living, well, boy, I'll be one

angry mailman. You're on your 49th album. Boy, I

ain't going front. I'll be the mailman with the blicky on me, man. Stolen that

shit. Oh my God. Cause where you gonna been about your fucking shit? Where you

gonna been? I'm telling you. You pumped it up, pumped it

down, sideways. Oh man. Yeah, that don't get said enough up here. I

appreciate you brothers for giving me the ability to just talk shit. Likewise.

I'd be alcoholic if I didn't get to talk for a living. Oh my God.

Word. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, probably so. For sure. Ish, what would you do if you

wasn't? Some bottom shelf s*** too sister. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bacardi. Mark could be

an alkyo of the Bacardi. Yo, I drank McAllister. Yo, I went to the bar

last night at like 2 a.m. by myself. 1.15. In Knoxville. By yourself. I landed

at 11. I got back home at midnight. Hey, freeze. I was at St. James

Gate in Maplewood. Yo, you can talk into the mic, my brother. My bad. You

ain't got to tell Ish. What time she thought you landed? Oh, no, I went

home first. My wife went to bed. Oh, okay. We had a spirited discussion. So

you hit the bar. We had a spirited discussion, and I went out to get

a... Oh, that's some old school shit right there. The old ball and

chain got me tight. We had a spirited conversation. I was like, we're going to

take a drive. I need a scotch. Well, I went to the bar, and I

was... First of all, I played myself because I was wearing a JVP hoodie. Oh,

shit. What a jerk. I wasn't thinking. I got nothing. It's like fraternity stuff. I

don't wear it because I don't want people... People will walk up to me and

have a conversation about it. I can at least pretend I'm, because people ask me,

I don't know, JB, no, I just look like him, right? It's all the time.

Sky on TV, you have a haircut. You know what I mean? So I get

there, and I was about to order my Bacardi and coke, and I had your

voice in my head. Time out, time out. You went and gave a speech in

Knoxville with no haircut? They don't pay you more for a haircut? Give them niggas

their money back. Oh, well, no way. You know what I'm saying?

That's his big educator look on some Eric Benet shit. Yo, Jesus. When Hobs don't

get a haircut, he said, I'm in my album mode. All y'all be on his

dick. But when I go outside. He's in the studio. You outside.

Wow. Yo, that's crazy. I couldn't get my

haircut on Monday because something happened with my barber or something. I don't know. Some

shit happened. You and Ice be having all types of barber issues. My barber just

plans late. That's plan B, bro. You could have called me. I know you know

plan B. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. You should have stocked them motherfuckers.

Oh, oh. I ain't slept in three days, dog. All I got love is being

an asshole. Just mean vibes. Oh, man, you went to the bar and made for

one. No, so I was like, if I order Bacardi right now, I was embarrassed.

Y'all embarrassed me. You should be. I ordered McAllen's 12. Bullion works? Yeah, bullion works.

I ordered McAllen's 12. Wait. What the hell? 12? 12's not bad, Mark.

It was what was right in front of me. Yo, fam, you cannot order a

12. Did they have anything else? No, 12's not bad, man. When I walked in,

I saw Bacardi. It's better like Dewar's or some shit. Right. And I looked right

in front of me and it said... McAllen's 12, I didn't ask for nothing else.

I mean, I actually have a decent collection of liquor. When you looked to the

left or right of the bottle. All of it. Did you see some other numbers?

Did you see any other numbers? 12 was in front of me, it was 1.26

AM, I wasn't really worried about the flavor. And that spirited conversation was whipping your

ass still. Oh, that's it. I mean, the chokehold. What was up there? I just

got an MD 2020 right there. You got the 18, mama? Man, give me some

unleaded. It don't matter. Do it really matter that much to y'all? Yeah, a little

bit, but it's fine. Maybe coming off a spirited conversation? Yeah. Maybe not. At the

house? Yes. I wouldn't serve nothing that I... You know what I mean? But at

the... I'm just proud of you for not getting the McCarty personally. Thank you. It's

growth. It's growth. It's growth. It's a step in the right direction. That's it. And

you had just... Because I'm... Pardon me. I got to catch up. I'm slow this

morning. You had just landed and then had the spirit of conversation? Oh, yeah. I

landed at 11, got home at 1140. Educator beef. Educator beef.

Your data set is not correct. Two PhDs, little 14-letter words just flying. Yo, once

you was out there, you was out there educating? Ooh, I love to hear that

spirit conversation. Yeah, no, it wasn't the educated of the conversation. It wasn't like no

big deal. We good. It just was one of them spirited convos you have sometimes.

I get it. You know? Sure, sure. Well, I'm glad you made it. Tennessee volunteered.

You didn't cut the camera on for that one? No. You know what? That won't

make the pod, no. Oh, darn it. You know what, though? I just subbed. Right.

That's what it was going to take. So you were in Tennessee, and off my

issue with saying you were in Tennessee at some point? I wasn't listening. Yeah, I

was. Yeah. for a week somehow even though we see him last year. Look at

y'all. It's a regular old arrested development.

How you end up in Tennessee for Knoxville for a week? I went out there

looking at some property shit. The answer's in the question.

I must have missed it. No, I was out there on some looking for scouting.

Talking to Mike? Looking at some shit. You went to Knoxville

to interview people? No, looking for some property. I was looking at some shit to

buy. Oh, like you need to see it in person? Like you've seen it on

show already? You fucking ain't right. How long did that take? Two hours. Couple days.

Did you make the purchase? No. Still thinking, right? Mm-mm. The shit was... Probably got

to see it again. Numbers ain't make sense. At least two more times. Just make

sure it was right. Probably got to get out there. Yeah. A couple of times.

All right, my question. Get a different assessment. My question to anybody who wants to

answer, is bitches out there? There's bitches everywhere, Joe. There's bitches everywhere, nigga. It's a

major city in the United States. You ain't seen that, right? Your brain don't register

all those chromosomal differences. Yo, that spirit combo was within his hands. He's got to

be careful. He's got him shell shocked. Deadass, I didn't. I flew out at 6

a.m., got there. I spoke at noon, and I was on a 5 o'clock flight

back. I literally went nowhere but the airport, the campus. That don't sound like the

first time you said no. How long did you speak? It started a little iffy,

but he cleared it up. How long did you speak? About... About 35 minutes. It

went well. Oh, that's where the trouble lies. It went well. About 500 people showed

up. It was a great speech. Shout out to University of Tennessee, Knoxville. Great time.

Get it right, buddy. And all the people out there, apparently there were men and

women. I don't even see gender. So it's a construct. So I don't know who

was in the line. I don't know who asked for pictures. It's a construct. I

don't know none of that. Yeah. What up?

There's that silence. What the fuck? You had a meet and greet? Yeah,

I had a meet and greet. Yo, one woman did walk up. Yeah, she's mad

as shit. She walked up to me and said, give me your car. I said,

I don't have a car. She said, give me your phone number. I was like,

no. She got mad as shit and stormed off. People be bold in meet and

greets now. Yeah, but you know. That's all she asked for? I don't even remember,

man. I was so busy. I'm with you. No doubt. Yeah, man. You was teaching.

Yeah, but something woke the spirits. Yeah, you was teaching. Had to go find some

spirits. Something woke the spirits up. It's okay. It's okay. I'll wait. I subbed, so

I'll see you whenever. Did you? No, I didn't subbed. I was about to say.

That's for the show. I only got like six subscribers. I noticed what people were

asking. Oh, buddy. Buddy. In fact, I don't think anybody in here is subscribed. Is

no one up here subscribed? I use my alias. This isn't the most... John Sneederman.

That's a good answer. That's the great answer. Joe Pacheco.

Nice. Yeah. Appreciate y'all. Well, I look forward to having an amazing show with you

brothers. Likewise. It's going to be great. We off to a good start. We are?

Yes. You're an idiot. You're a silent

strike. Mona's silent. Listen, Mona has the room and the space... to be

Mona. And sometimes that me.

That's my girl, bro. I can't wait to have that

space. You won't have that space.

Oh man.

Who is that? Is Mark

Lamar Hill puzzling,

puzzling,

puzzling?

Okay, what episode is this? 895. Welcome to episode 895 of the

Bong. There you go. Welcome to episode 895 of the Joe Budden podcast brought to

you by a few by power by prize picks prize picks gang. I'm your humble

grateful gracious happy to be here host Joe Budden here with some really amazing people

to my right our good brother Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building to

his right the birthday boy himself ish is in the building next to him the

freeziest of them all ice is in the building next to him big parks is

in the building pardon me my Gerd Poe is here Corey is here Eric is

here. Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Mona will be with us shortly, I'm

sure. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you guys out there

are here. What's poppin' though? Hey, shit. What's going on? Yo, Ish, I added your

name, just so you know, to the famous people's birthdays today. There was...

I'm not being funny. I did. Because Sade was like the famous person today. I

looked it up to see if you were in there. And it was Sade, the

singer. And... Now it's you. I know he talking about you asshole. You're an

idiot. People be clipping out of context. But it's now you. All right. That's what's

up. I hear you. You dumb ass. Shut up, man. I'm serious. Bro, that's good

looking out. That's friend shit. Try to be a friend of this old ass nigga,

man. Listen, the old niggas be stuck setting their ways and stuck with their ass.

Listen, man, what we on today, man? Let me know what the vibe is. It's

all love. Yeah, nah. Where are the pogs at? Let me know if I need

to get a lie together real quick. What's up? What's up? You need to get

a lie. Keep wanting to talk. Do I need to get a lie together real

quick? I might got one too tonight. Hey. I carry the spirit of conversation in

the Saturday. Ooh, isn't that the best? Oh, my God. I ain't even mad no

more. You want to have this talk on a third with the weekend?

All right, all right. All right. No, I'm joking, of course. I'm joking, I'm joking,

I'm joking, I'm joking. What we on tonight, though? We good? We're chilling, bro. What

that means? You spending the night with your girl? You spending with, you know what

I mean? Us. Yo, shut up. What type of night? What type of night we

doing? You want to work late? I think he gets to work late, yeah. You

know, Joe be keeping us going to midnight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes, too. We have

a bunch of more. We have seven guests. Right. What'd they clip? Yo, Parks lost

it. Right. I ain't never seen the episodes come out, you know, Parks fucked up.

Yeah, we had to start again. We had to start over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You

lost all the footage. That's funny, yo. We lost the fouls. Yeah. We had to

do the whole thing over. We didn't start the morning guy here. Knock on wood,

though. Our girls would kick our ass. We had Janet Jackson up here. Parks lost

it. Yeah. Fucked up. Great interview. Somebody said,

somebody said, Janet Jackson look like Tyler Perry, and I can't unsee it.

Oh, shit. Nah. Yes. Oh, fuck. Hell no. Why'd you do that to me?

Yo, what's wrong with you? Yo, somebody said that. They did the split screen? They

said, no, no, they just said it. And it was like, yeah, I finally got

it off my chest. And I was like, oh, fuck, I read it. Damn. I

read it. That's the worst thing I've ever heard. It is a little... And the

best thing. That's one of those Takashi, Erika Mena things. Oh, shit. Why'd you just

do that? You tried to ruin my life. This nigga's crazy. I had to think

for Takashi. Now I know he's like Erika Mena, I don't want to fuck no

more. What's wrong with this girl? I haven't slept. That's

what I thought about. When they said Takashi was going to jail, I said, oh,

man. Oh. You hear a little Eric with me in the face? Boy, you better

buckle up. And take

them pretty colors out of that hair, too. Oh, my God. Back to happy birthday.

That's real. That's crazy, y'all. I wish everybody well.

Most of y'all. Okay. Let me cue this up.

Let me cue this up so we can get right into the... So you ain't

got no birthday plans, man? Nah. At all, my nigga? No. So when you leave

here, you're going to drive to your house like normal. Mm-hmm. And then what happens?

Go home and watch some Netflix or something? Go in the house, kiss my baby,

and call it a night. Yeah. Just watch Matlock. What's the weekend plans? Because maybe

you one of them like I'm celebrating. You know what I'm saying? Probably celebrated in

Tennessee probably. Knoxville. Knoxville. Knocked it out in Knoxville. You're an

idiot, bro. It sounds like you need something to do tonight. Yeah, got you. I'm

going to open. Let's have a, yeah, we'll have a spirit. Don't play. Some of

them Reddit girls is like, ooh, he is aging like wine. Don't play.

You want me to hit the Reddit girls? The Reddit girls. The Reddit girls. Oh,

man. I always love finding out a podcaster, fuck the Redditor. Or somebody in that

ilk. I don't know why I do nothing with the information, but I store it.

So I love knowing that stuff, too. It's good to know, right? I'll be in

the DMs now. They be sending me DMs telling me all the business. Oh, my

Lord, man. Y'all messy as hell. Word. Fan engagement. Fan engagement.

Market research? Market research. Got it. Like Knoxville. Got you. All right, with no further

ado. Yeah, man, let's get into it. Yeah. With no further ado. It's not time

to play. All right.

All right, first thoughts. Come on. I'm not just going to let it play. I'll

start it over. I'm going to start it over. New Cold, this came out the

other day, the other night on the promo. The promo was different. Then this came

out. Yeah. Either way, disc two, track two, sounds like a double

disc. Yeah. Unless he's just the biggest troll ever. Could be, but I doubt it.

I doubt it. I doubt it. I think he's doing double disc. I do too.

First thoughts when you guys heard this. Um, Up to this point? Yeah, up to

this point. Not that whole breakdown. Just up to this point. Up to this point,

I said, okay, oh, he's doing a rewind. That was it. I didn't have no,

let me see how he do it. So you picked that up in the first

reverse. Because he says I start from the reverse. Yeah, you can hear from there.

Got it, got it, got it. See, I was thinking about the, I was like,

all right, he's not trying to make a single. Like, I was thinking like he's

just rapping. Like, as a Cole fan, this is what you want to hear. He's

not chasing a hit. He's not trying to, you know what I mean? This is

just vintage Cole, and I loved it. That's what I was thinking, actually. Just from

the flow and from the production.

Same rhyme scheme, the whole record with the story. That's the first thing I heard

was the rhyme scheme. I didn't catch that until. I walked away from the phone

and went to like my closet or something. And when I came back, he was

still on the rhyme. I said, no, he did not. This guy's fucking ignorant. Yeah.

That's tough to do. Yeah, the first thought I heard, we were in the studio,

we stopped to play, and it was, oh, we got to listen to that again.

Because it was clearly a story I didn't pick up on the rewind shit on

the first listen. I didn't either. Really? Yeah. I didn't either. Not right off the

rip. I was just vibing. I wasn't analyzing right off the rip. When I first

listened to a record, I'm not thinking about what's happening. I'm just vibing. See, it

depends on who it is. Like, with him, I know he's usually talking in his

songs, so I'm listening. I can dig it. And I was like, yeah, I do

that with everybody. This is... And I'm a nerd, so I was looking at the

video, and he had the ASR drum machine in there, and that's pretty fly. And

signed the kids, what happened? I didn't see the entire, I don't think I saw

the video. I didn't see it. Oh, that's how it was released, so I was

watching it. I may have seen the promo. The car wash one? Yeah,

that's the promo one. I smiled, because I always hate those fucking South Carolina car

washes. I hate that shit. You gotta wash your shit by yourself. I hate that

shit. Be wet as fuck when you leave out of there. I hate them. I

hate them. Wait, y'all go to the drive-thru shit? I wash my shit with the

gun. Nah, I go to the hand wash. There's not too many drive-thru, at least

in my neighborhood, there's not too many in New York. I told you. So you

got to take it somewhere. Or y'all don't even have gas stations. Y'all are just

getting used to cars. We have gas stations. That's where my car wash is at

the gas station. In New York, they just started buying cars a couple years ago.

Right. Yeah, and they about to ban the horse and carriages because the horse got

loose on Fifth Avenue. Not because of the animal cruelty. Right, no. Because you're fucking

up traffic. When has that ever stopped you guys? Cruelty. You guys.

Don't lump me in with those monsters. I'm sorry. Cruelty. All right, back to him.

Oh, my God. I had a good time with this, too. I stopped to wonder

what J. Cole flirting was like.

No. Because he's such a visual artist. So when he's saying this, and I

remember going to his show in Brooklyn. You rapping niggas. They were all there. Oh,

yeah. They were all. Don't think I'm making a joke. They were all absolutely there.

Yeah. Yeah. But cold flirting is hilarious. It's kind of funny. I didn't think about

it that way, but it's kind of funny. Yeah. Hmm. Nah,

never mind. It's really hard to do. No, I'm wondering if after the encore, the

chick's wearing his merch. I'm just still trying to figure out if he's still

going off the flirt. No, no, no, no, no. He left the show. He go

into the new spot thinking, I wonder if it's going to be some girls there.

Then he gets to the new spot. He sees the chick across the room. They

exchange a little smirky smile, and then he keeps going. Bingo. That shit

is really hard to do. That's some... You Dreamville niggas ain't fooling me. I'm back

to the song. Am I overreacting? No, you're not.

Nope, you're not. I didn't think I was either. You're not so-called. Yeah. Yeah. You

put that in there for a reason. Parks, tell us we're wrong. What's the reason?

Bring that back. I missed it. Gotcha. I'm signing my hero.

Y'all think that's a shot? One of them so-called kings that I'm going to usurp?

The so-called part. I don't know. I feel like that's a rhyme scheme thing. No,

you got to find two other syllables. There's a play on his words because ain't

no other kings in his rap thing, them siblings. It's a biggie line. But he...

It's a play. Okay. Tying it with that. Where did that come from? I don't

get it. Okay. He's used that as well. Find two other syllables. Right. He know

a lot of words. He can pick something different. So if I'm repeating that, I'm

tying it to that. Yeah. Yeah. All right, now I got you. You can't talk

about usurping kings. If you are gifted enough to do what he just did, you

can find two other words instead of so-called. In what world is so-called not a

shot? I'm down to be reaching. You so-called engineer. Let's not forget the word

usurp. Yeah. To me, it's the so-called and the usurp together. See, usurp, I didn't

pay no mind because on some rapper shit. Yes. We all have to. You should

usurp. We should usurp. Yeah, the combination, right?

Yeah, I'm rolling. So you didn't have to so-called. You didn't have to. You didn't

have to so-called. And wait, before we do this, let me let y'all know that

for me, in my head, top of the conspiracy list is I wish I knew

what was going on between J. Cole and Jay-Z. I've been saying that forever. These

are two brothers that are holding it down in terms of whatever happened. Yeah, solid

to solid. It could be nothing happened, but boy, are they holding it down. Boy,

do I wish they would stop. But that's the dope shit. Let's say nothing happened.

You wouldn't know. And that's how it's supposed to be. I don't know if anything

happened. It might just be, you know, every rapper starts off wanting to be signed

to someone. And then once they start getting a lot of money and accolades and

all that shit, they no longer want to be there. the guy that signed the

dude don't want to let you go because you're making me a lot of fucking

money. I don't think it's really that deep. I don't think it's probably Venom, but

they probably had a butting of heads at some level. I wouldn't be surprised if

they did anyway. It happens every single time. I agree with

that part, but I also look at just the lack of them doing shit together.

I think that could play into it. If I'm Cole, I'm signed to you, I'm

your understudy, I'm XYZ, and come on, nothing really? They did. They did. When he

was still signed to him, but they haven't since he hasn't been signed to him.

So at that point... Very minimal. Very minimal. But even back then, it was very

minimal. He had him on... Hope had him on his album. That's a big deal.

And he was on fucking his first single. That's a big deal. They did work.

Yeah, but so even when he was signed to him... What song are you talking

about? You talking about Back in the Day? Yes. Oh, nigga. He's saying that they

never did know. No, I didn't say never. I did not say that. Minimal shit.

But it's not minimal if you're... Hov don't have many features on his albums, really.

I'm not saying that those earlier features were minimal. They were very important in whatever

plan that they had gone. And it worked. I just feel like if you saw

the backstage shit or whatever doc that was where Hov was like the boy eating

the cereal, like if your story starts from there and then you find this dope-ass

kid from North Carolina, y'all break all types of boundaries. Y'all sell all of these.

Y'all do it. Y'all do it. Even if mutually

beneficial is what I'm saying to both of them. Whenever it ends, that's what I

be saying, yo. When any business relationship ends, if it was mutually beneficial and we

all happy, let's go our separate ways. But yo, let me buy you a drink

when I see you in the club. Let me put an ad lib on something.

Send me a record. Let me hear it. You don't seem closer to Pusha T.

It don't work that way very often. We don't. I know. And I guess I'm

just disappointed. That's all. But bigger than that, they both are so quiet and mysterious

that that could be happening and we would still be none the wiser. He might

have sent this nigga the whole album like, yo, I'll honor your opinion. Let me

know what you think. We would never know because they both carry it like that.

That's about it. Very true. Until they hit a booth. Well, not Cole. Cole be

holding it down. Cole be holding it down. Jay-Z... If this is something. We'll know.

We won't. This will not be the last time we've heard about so-called. Now I'm

thinking about this again. When he's telling us. This is going to be like when

he did that. I'm sorry, Mark. This is going to be like when he did

that. What was that? Birdman or somebody said some shit. And then he starts talking

about the art in the house. And you got repoed. And nobody knew nothing. It's

like. Yeah. It's good. Maybe I'm doing some fan obsessive shit right now. I'm thinking

about this thing also. He's telling the story backwards, right? So what life stages is

when he's saying so-called kings? He said, I'm assigned to my hero. I'm assigned to

my hero. So I mean, so is he just saying, I'm trying to look at

it more generously now. No, if he was already a hero, then he was not

so-called. No, no, what I'm saying is, though, is he's just saying as a young,

hungry rapper, I was trying to take everybody down. There's no point in J. Cole's

rap life that... Hove was so-called. I mean, Hove ain't so-called to know, but I'm

just saying like... Well, he might know. He was so-called in the 90s. In the

97, 98, 98. When he said Biggie, Jay-Z, or Nas, it was so-called. It was

a fight going on. Yeah, but that was where I'm from. That's like, you said,

that's the 90s. But I'm talking about when Cole came out. I'm just saying, is

he being self-critical? Like, yeah, I was a young, cocky dude that thought I was

calling him so-called back then. That's what I'm saying. That's nice. That's a nice angle

that my brain would have never came up with. But no, but you can't say

that and say he's already my hero. If he's already a hero, he's no longer

so-called. Well, unless you think you the king. See what I'm saying? I'm about to

etch his name out, taking it back to the Where I'm From reference, right? I'm

not mad at that. I'm just saying it's another way to think about it. I

don't know if that's what it was, but... I don't know. I know Cole's smart

enough to know that so-called is going to have people take it. He's too smart.

Yeah, I agree with that. Of course, I agree with that. I'm just saying it

might not be as ill as when I first heard it. And you know what?

I'm going to give Jermaine Cole the benefit of the doubt because I have to

factor in his last year and a half and his apology and how he feels

about grief. He's one of the more mature people. guys out there. I'm not going

to put that on him. That's for us sleazeballs. That's what I'm saying. I think

he might be self-critical with that line. He's not the one coming out after that.

To throw a shot at J.D. That's what I'm saying. I think he might be

being self-critical right now. I take it back. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah,

I'm on bullshit. Alright. Fuck off. And

you ain't even about to throw a shot on the rewind story track. Yeah, not

at all. Your brain is so gone on some deep, my kids, my life and

reflection. Strictly runs. The summation of shit. Yeah, I'm just nice. Like, I'm not doing

this in the rewind track. Yeah. No. Hey, Mona. Hey, guys. Hi, Joe. How are

you? What's up, Mona? I'm good. How are y'all? We good. We good. We just

going over J. Cole's song. That's the first thing on the board right there. You

look great. I see. I'm not a big J. Cole fan. Okay.

That is absolutely ridiculous. That's what got Jesus. Yeah. That was

nuts. And that goes to my dead president's loop thing. Why keep reusing the same

piano loop when there's another perfectly fire, sad, melancholy piano loop that you could use?

And he did it here. Can't wait to hear whatever disc and track number that

is. I like anybody that's showing their appreciation to all that Memphis gets you rowdy

shit. And J. Cole does it a lot. Mixed with some mob. Yeah. Yeah. Mixed

with some mob. Question. As serious as cancer. Double disc.

I think J. Cole is capable as anybody of making an amazing album, and I

think he will. I'm looking forward to this based on what I heard. But when

you start talking about double discs, you raise the degree of difficulty considerably. I mean,

I don't know. And I feel like every major rapper who wants to be in

an all-timer does a double disc at least once. Hov did it, Nas did it,

Pac did it, so forth, and so on. Biggie did it. Wu-Tang. Wu-Tang. That's actually

one of the ones that I think worked. There's only a few that I feel

like are really classics. Double discs. Biggie Pocket Woo. Yeah,

that's it. Y'all got Woo forever as a classic?

Although I don't think it's perfect by any sense of the imagination, yes. It's an

elite double disc. It's an elite double disc. It ain't classic for me, but it's

not for me. Could they have trimmed three or four songs off it and it

would have been a more concise, better project? Absolutely. But I think it's impacting time.

It's four and a half mics, for sure. Yo, don't mic system me. That's just

how my brain works. Oh, my Lord. That was horrible, man. I'm old. Yeah. But

the company excluded. For me, it's like a four and a half range. Most people,

again, like Blueprint 2 wasn't that. No. You know, Nas didn't have that. Blueprint 2

could have been an EP. They actually went and did it. Blueprint 2.1 was fly.

He said EP. I think it was 10 songs. But anyway, like 2.1. The first

five songs are cover songs. Anyway, I'm not getting new people to you. A lot

of trash in it, but at least 10 good songs. Definitely a hove text. But...

I mean, he knows that he put out Blueprint 2.1 to fix it. Anyway, point

being, like most elite rappers have tried it. Most don't make it there. So I'm

just saying, does that scare y'all in terms of the fact that it's a double

disc? No, no. No, I think if it's done right, and I would say leaning

towards concise, if it's double disc, like 12 songs on each thing, I think it's

fine. If you give me 20 songs on each disc, I feel like that you

might be doing a lot. Not just that, he hasn't been out in two years.

Mad shit has happened. I think he got a lot to talk about. He also

said in some of the promo that he's been working on this album for 10

years. So he's been putting some shit to the side. And it's been teased as

his final album. So if I'm going out, I think Cole could do it. Swing

for the fences. Yeah, I think he could do it. I don't believe it. But

I'm taking that as word for now. Sure. I'll take it. I'm assuming the best.

He's the one you could do. He might be the one that might. He's the

one that seemed like. He just want to go mow lawn somewhere.

I did all I needed to do in here. I wouldn't be surprised if a

nigga could be in a Peace Corps somewhere in Tanzania. That's just what... You wouldn't

be shocked. What else does he need to accomplish in hip-hop? You just expect him

to be on a bicycle down the highway. He's on a bike now. On

his Andre 3000 shit. You just see him just pop up somewhere, just move around,

out like it's nothing. And I'm telling you, yo, this music business... Fame shit is

really overrated when you're a part of it. Yeah, I can see it, yeah. And

you just look at it from J. Cole's point. What else does he need to

do in hip-hop? Yeah, with, and, and, if he feel like being

sassy with how y'all spoke to me this past year and a half, two years.

Y'all think Drake is on some sassy. I'm going to show you guys. I'm going

to remove myself from the scene and then watch how it is. What if J.

Cole don't like how y'all was talking? It's possible. But he was teasing this before

the Battle Royale. Bet he wouldn't add to some songs.

I'm sure. That's how it became a double disc. Yeah, word.

You know what? So what's the date on this? It's 2-6. 2-6. February

6th. Three weeks. Three weeks away. New J. Cole.

First quarter. I want to shout out Nas and Large Pro 2 for the original

Rewind. Made on the same drum machine. In the video. Small nugget there. You

know fans like nuggets, man. Probably unintentional, but...

Nah. You think it was unintentional? Probably. It's his first drum machine. He's talked about

it in interviews and showed it in other shit, so... I want to hear the

snippet again. I think everything with Cole is intentional, man. Me too. I think he

just wanted him. I think so, too. Shout out to Havoc, man.

I want to be sitting... Yeah, shout out to Havoc. I need that record, man.

I want to be sitting in front of some big-ass speakers when that comes on.

I'm not going to lie. It's going to make February the 6th, podcast day. I'm

going to start a little late. Double disc? At midnight? That sounds like a Thursday

night party, buddy. Going to bed at 3 a.m.? Yeah, thanks. Sounds like one of

those, or waking up at 3 a.m. Or waking up. I want to hear this

at night, loud. Midnight. The album is in Bacardi, I'm good.

There was a lot of talk online. A lot of talk online. I feel like

with every J. Cole release, every Hive kind of stands up, but his Hive is

cool. I feel like he drop and then people come fuck with them. You used

to be part of that fuck with J. Cole Hive. I got a text from

his fan club, so I think I'm in the J. Cole Hive still. No, no,

no, no, no. Ice used to be the fuck with J. Cole. Oh, oh, oh.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Every Friday. You remember him? Every Friday. Yeah, you're right. He

was the worst. I wasn't the worst. Oh, damn, I forgot about that. You were

one of the worst. I was bad. Break it down. Why? Was it just more

of the troll shit? Ice used to be such a shithead, yo, online anyway. His

digital footprint, nasty, covered in shit. Did you delete a lot of it?

Yeah, of course. A lot. Respect. Respect. Not to get off topic. It's just you're

such a great person. You're one of the best people I know in real life.

I mean, genuinely, and I've said that before. I appreciate that. But he grew into

that. Oh. No, he was always a good person. That's not true, though. Tell Mark

what you used to do to J. Cole. It's Friday. It wasn't my tweet. Someone

else had tweeted, it's Friday. Ain't nobody trying to hit no J. Cole. So for

like every Friday. For 10 years. Yes. For like three years or so. Every Friday?

every Friday. Like 150 Fridays. You just wake up and retweet it.

Like, you know what? Like, why would you do that? Why would you do that?

What would you say, Mona? Nothing. Mona Kosa today. No, this

is what I want to know. When he says, like, you're a bad person online,

right, you think you could separate that, like, be a bad person online, but be

a good person in real life? He did. That exists? He was a good dude.

He was just a menace on the internet. No. No. Growth, it

affects you everywhere, but there's no way you're this great person in real life and

online. You're just a nasty troll, and if you're that person, you shouldn't be that

person. You're the first person I've ever met who's not a piece of shit. I

had a guy work for me in my bookstore. I won't say his name because

I don't want to embarrass Isaiah. He was a troll, and he would like...

steal people's tweets and write them as his own. Oh, shit. Those are both character

things to me. Yeah, stealing is... Yeah, but he would be like, I just do

it for fun, and I troll for fun, and da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Eventually, he stole money from

the store. Yeah. He's stealing. Talk about this nigga ten times. If I see Isaiah,

I'm going to fuck him up. That's why. We're going to fuck you up, Isaiah.

Remember? Same thing I said about finesse in that Monopoly game. Shout out to finesse.

Ish thought I was so crazy. My man did some slimy shit in the Monopoly

game. That shit don't... Yeah. And I was like, that's the character thing. That's what

I'm saying. I don't like that. I don't like to see a game shouldn't bring

that side out of you. Right. They joke. Ish thought I was nuts. There's some

slimy shit in Monopoly games. Does that support his theory? I don't really.

No. I don't know what happened in that game. That's what I'm saying. And I

don't really remember, but I'm not against slime. Whatever he did, it was grimy, grimy

slime. Out of bounds. Ish probably remembers. You remember? I knew he would.

What happened? What'd he do? Y'all would like to know what the way we play

Monopoly, you co-op, right? And then

it's terms to the co-op. Of course. And when the game got thick, I'm

betting those terms. Oh, he did that? Yeah, he got out of the terms. This

nigga's bad as hell. He did this in like 09. Isn't that how the

co-op always goes in Monopoly? No, no, no. Not in Monopoly, no. When does the

terms end? When we get up to a certain point, we can disband the co-op.

I'm just not going to rob you of, you know what I mean? If I'm

holding a problem and I got to pay you your bread, I ain't just going

to say you dead on that either. It's still ours, even though only one person

can hold it. And he was at that point too much of my man and

we was in my house. I'm not hitting somebody in my house. Me and

him, we had too good of a friendship. But anybody else, that was... Anyway, back

to whatever we were talking about. I believe that. Some of this shit is character

shit. Ice used to be a minister to society and he's matured a lot and

he's gotten a lot better and he's a hell of a person and a hell

of a dad. And to Mona's point, you don't see those things. You don't see

those tweets. Does he listen to J. Cole on Fridays now, though? No, he fucks

with Cole. He loves Cole now. He loves Cole now. That's why it's tricky to

fucking with artists. Oh, no, it's even worse than that tweet. I remember a long

time ago. I mean, this might be when him and J. Elect had just

signed the Roc Nation or something. And I swore neither one of them was putting

the album out. And I'm like, yo, they ain't never dropping an album. I just

didn't believe in Roc Nation at that time. A lot of people didn't. I'm not

the only one, but I was very vocal about it. I've been blocked by Roc

Nation. They didn't fuck with me for a long time. We cool now, but it

was a long time when Roc Nation didn't fuck with me. I was like, yo,

remember that tweet I told y'all that J. Cole and J.E.L.E.C. would never put an

album out? I'm right. That tweet was like three years after I said it. Cole

favorited the tweet and the whole shit and then threw some shot. I've learned that,

yo, we see the shit you be saying. Especially the hate. Yeah, we'll address it.

You got a real Hall of Fame tweet resume. No, I don't. Honestly. Any positive?

Seriously. Yes. And it's so funny. Yes. It's so funny when you think about it.

It's a balance. It's so funny when you think about it because how you deal

with trolls. Because you don't even engage with shit. Like, Ice Black shit, Mute shit,

you don't engage at all. You kind of know what trolls want. Right. I tell

everybody. I don't know why it's just like a mind fuck to me. Probably because

I'm trolled so much. I've been online so long. But I just can't believe. Well,

it's that and he's really sensitive. No, he's not. Are you sensitive? Who are you

asking? Why men hate that? Why do men hate that so much? I don't know

why. I think that's a sign thing. Certain signs y'all just think. What's your sign

again? Gemini. Yeah. What's that mean? I don't know. Y'all got

two sides. It means two sides. The nigga that got dropped off to school and

the nigga that's firing from his Wi-Fi in the house. I don't think I've ever

met a Gemini that wasn't two people. Not too much on my man, too. Back

up off ice now. Ice my nigga. Yo, Mona, did you wish Ish happy birthday,

though? No, but I've been sitting here thinking, yo, is it this nigga's birthday? Happy

birthday, boy. Thank you. Happy birthday. What you doing? Shit.

You got your head shit on. Yo, just check the stories tonight. I mean, check

them IG stories. Are we hanging out, guys? We might be. That's what I do.

Hopefully. That's the plan. You got to do it on your birthday. We can at

least get a drink together. We can I don't drink. But put IG stories on

for my birthday? I can get some pills. Yeah. Holy shit. Some hookah, yo. That's

your shit. I'm saying pills. I'm sorry, that's my fill. Pills, not pills. Oh. Orange

pills. Orange pills. Yeah. Is you never going to drink? I hear how that sounds.

Having a birthday hookah at 50 is, no, I'm not letting them do it. Yeah,

no. Cigar or something. Get some head, nigga. Do something. You got to do something.

Well, we won't be there for that. A hookah? Who? Who? Who

won't? I'm not beating the wise old ass gets dicks up, man. If I pay

for it to get done, I'm staying. You sure you get your money's

worth? Bye-bye, I

spy. It's a joke, man. Stupid ass fans take me too serious. All right. Shouts

to cold, man. Looking forward to that. Shouts to cold. Shouts to cold. Some other

music came out. Y'all heard that ASAP? I did. I got halfway through. Listen, there's

a few albums that came out. Yeah, there's a lot of shit. But what'd you

think? So far, what I heard, I like. I had low expectations for this album.

I'll be honest. Same. He shocked the shit out of me. Yeah, I was like,

oh, shit. He shocked the shit out of me. Wow. It's a good album. From

what I heard, I didn't make it all the way through. But I am not.

I ain't knocking this. No, there's some real good records on it. How many tracks?

I don't know, 17, maybe something like that. 18, I think, yeah. I think 18.

It's like a weird double disc situation, too, where there's like two songs on disc

two. Yeah, and that's what I mean. That ain't no double. That's a bonus. It's

like a video and like a, what was it? I know you're right. It's 15,

and then it's 18 total. Yeah. But there was some tracks on here. The two

lead singles were good. What else was here? They called the Drake Dis. Play the

Drake Dis. Come on. Let's just get to it, right? Unpack the Drake Dis. Drake

this, Drake this, Drake this. There's a couple of them. Was that stole your flow?

Yeah, stole your flow. You stole my flow, so I stole your B. You know

what I mean? Do you want me to play it? Yes. Not because I hate

Drake, y'all. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all

right, all right. This album is very abrasive. It was not my cup of tea

first thing in the morning. I do want to listen to it again in a

different atmosphere. It's a lot like this, a lot of punk, punkish vibes. This is

an album that's meant to be performed off. Yeah, definitely. That's all I heard. I'm

like, I'm at the show. Why don't y'all get some man speakers and shut up?

Why don't y'all get some speakers with some umph on it? I have a studio.

Certain shit is energy-based. I just don't want to hear this level of abrasion first

thing in the morning. No, I agree with you there. But give it a go.

Give it a go later. I'm definitely going to. I'm definitely going to. It's well-produced

and all that shit. First thing, 6, 7 o'clock in the morning. It's a lot.

I like that shit. I thought you want to hear shit like that in the

morning. I like that. No. You said you don't want to hear the soft shit

in the morning. He wants to boom bap though, not like punk. Yeah, not punk.

There's levels. There's levels. First blind of the day. Yeah, no, the ASAP shit exceeded

my expectations. And granted, I didn't expect much because who knew what to expect, but

pardon me. Yeah, some of the reviews haven't been that strong. You know, I read

some of the reviews after I listened to it. I mean, you may not care

about it. How many mics? Like the Guardian gave it three. The Guardian gave it

three out of five. They said it was kind of meandering a little bit. Almost

like there was some really good shit and some shit that felt a little lost,

like sonically. I didn't necessarily agree with that review, and I read a few more

reviews anyway. Don't repeat another Guardian review up here. Especially saying that,

that's my thing, fuck who reviews it. Why am I looking at a review?

Same day of the old school. I assume they got it early. I assume they

got it early. Sometimes. Unless I give all the credit in the world. Sometimes motherfuckers

do one listen. For sure. Oh, yeah. Again, I thought it was first listen. I

liked it. You know what I mean? Not to use mics, but I'd give it

four out of five something. Three and a half out of something. You know what

I'm saying? I thought it was solid, good production. I need to hear it again.

I need to hear it again. I need to hear it again also. I like

the Dochi record, Not For Nothing. Oh, that? Yes. Yes. He took other shots on

the record, too. That BBL shit was the one I for the street. He shot

a couple times. It wasn't just that. He shot about the move to Texas shit.

He shot that one, the BBL. And another one, take care of your kids, all

that. I have one woman that's a player. Shots on the player record. He's shooting.

Yeah, for real. Do you want to hear the Doji record? Yeah. Go ahead and

give it a go. For sure. Why not? Very different production style this one. This

is crazy. This is amazing. They snapped on that. That's crazy. This is fire. The

perfect person for that. They snapped on that. Oh, my bad. Thelonious.

Snitching, but whatever. That shit is hard. Crazy. And she probably is the only person

that could have pulled that off. Yeah, I don't think nobody could do that. Her,

maybe Lady London, might have got it. I love her. Other than them. Like the

sexy lyrics and then that little beat thing when she started. Like how the old

school Vixen shit was. Like that's how it sounded when she started. I like that.

That's the original. And Duke Ellington. Wait a minute. Wait a

minute. This is hard. I'm such a music geek. Yeah, we've

heard this. Yeah, it's just in it. I feel like fucking... Ricky Ricardo or

some shit was dancing this way. Hey. Hey. All right, I'm cool. I'm cool. I'm

cool. I'm cool. That sounds great, man. Shout out to ASAP. Shout out to ASAP

Rocky, man. Hell of a project to be gone for so long and kind of

gone for so long because you've popped up here and there, but. As far as

releasing music itself, it's been a while, yeah. Yeah, this has been a minute, bro.

This is solid. This is solid. 2018, that's almost 10 years, damn near. Eight years.

2016. 2016. 2016. He's happy. He's

being loved well. You see Rihanna was saying how she got that Clarissa, that Clarissa

energy. Pap upstairs shit. Yeah, but I love it. I mean, she love me and

he being loved right now. I'm happy for them. And he be upstairs. Real shit.

He be upstairs. That's the whole thing. You gotta come on. She had enough of

y'all on the internet. She took the phone upstairs. Yeah, I like that. And he

was right there in the dark watching cartoons and shit. I love the videos too,

actually. Now we're talking ASAP Rocky. The helicopter video and the punk Rocky, those are

fire videos. I don't watch videos. Me neither. I watch a lot of videos. I

love videos. Especially when it's by someone that puts time into it. Like he's got

art direction, brain. Yeah, artistic. Really, really, really hard to do.

One more album? Can we do one more album? Mark Mead up, nigga. Okay. What

do you got? I was going to say Wiz Khalifa's new album, but Joe don't

fuck with him. No, I absolutely love Wiz Khalifa. I'm being an asshole. That's the

one. I actually think that album was really... Did y'all hear Chaotic? I listened to

a little bit of it. I did not. I didn't. I didn't. I see high

praise for it online. That shit is fire. It is a fire album. I have

one little critique, but in general, there's a couple of guest appearances I didn't love.

But Wiz is rapping his ass off. The production is great. Great songs. It feels

good. That's a car. That's a song. That's an album you want to be driving

down the street listening to. This is, I feel like there's two Wiz's. There's like

fun stoner Wiz. And then there's like, I'm going to show you I can really

rap and I get with it. Wiz. And this was the latter. There's only one

feature on this album that I've been saying since he came home I wanted Wiz

and Max. Yep. But this was not the Wiz and Max I wanted. Oh, I

like that record. Do you like that? I wanted. Let me hear it. Oh, good.

Joe. Load it up. This is not what I wanted. Great song. Two of the

three verses are great. That's all I'm going to say. It ain't even that for

me. It's just when I wanted Wiz and Max, I wanted melodic. I wanted. That's

what I want to hear. I want to hear. This is hot. Kind of a

lot. Okay, let the verses come in. Yeah, I hear what you're saying. I mean,

Max still just don't sound like Max yet, but... That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's

fine. Hey, wait a minute, wait a... I wonder why he chose not to

sing. If he would have sang here, I wonder why he chose not to. Maybe

he's just not there yet. He's been in the closet for 20 years, okay? Get

the nigga... I'm giving him grace. I'm not... I don't like the way they're mixing

them right now either. Let the nigga thaw out. His voice is already raspy, but

the double is not. It's the double. It's clashing. It is. It's not sounding great.

It is. That's one of the big things that changed while he was gone. His

voice. Well, not just that. People doubled the first when he went

away. Always. Yeah. Now, that's not really how they get jiggy with it. That

was a messy era. If you weren't tight with your doubles. Yeah, and there's a

lot more... tech out. There's a lot more amps and voice shit.

Like, he should be able to just get a clean lead. Yeah, clean lead. He

sound like an old nigga on that. And some of that is the production. That's

what I'm saying. I like this. I love this song. I think I would like

to hear him melodic. Yes. I just didn't like the way he sounded on the

song and I'm a Max fan so I want him to... Anyway, I wish that

wasn't where he was. It could have been so much better because we had snapped.

Well, shout out to Wiz. I do plan on listening to this album. That Juicy

J record? Load it up. That's the other one. Let me hear it. Yeah,

man. I need to hear music. Here we go. If you

know, you know. Yeah. All right, you can cut that off. You can cut that

off. That one right there, though? That's one of the ones, yeah. Yes. Yo, if

that come on for my man's birthday, I swear for God. What? I'm gonna lie

to y'all. Yo, DJ, New Jersey and New York DJs, get my man birthday playlist

ready when we walk in. You're an idiot, bro. How you want to shout you

out when you walk in tonight? Just Antoine? Don't. It's your birthday, though. It's that

ish. It's not my thing. That was crazy. That

was absolutely crazy. She get a couple singles. That song, come on. Right there.

Right there. As soon as it came on. I was like, oh, you just reach

it. I got some money with it. And you're going to throw $2, a couple

singles. You're going to look like Adam 22 and Starry. Played a lot of music,

Joe. Hear the Wally and Don Cannon freestyle? Yes. Want to hear any of it

or no? I want all of y'all to mute up is what I want. He

got this one. I want all y'all to mute up. Yep. I know y'all don't

really get around. No, no, no. I know y'all don't really be outside like that.

Hold up for a minute. Yo, cut this off, man. Yo, dawg.

Nothing needs to be said. Yo, they don't feel me, though, man. Honestly, I wish

I partied with niggas that felt me. This is what I'm saying. Pause. It's crazy.

Oh, my God. This is what I'm saying, man. You've been out in the last

five, six months, but because of fucking Folded and some other songs, like... We

ain't really talked about what this song does, but real niggas know. You know Breezy

was going to find out. Breezy, no. He be out. He be out. And he

be in. The kickback be right there. And when it comes on, all you got

to look at is every girl around when this song is on. I'm in a

relationship. I don't play like that. You don't look, right? You didn't even see it.

I look, but you can't lock eyes. Got you. Because if you lock eyes while

this song is on, y'all got to fuck. She pregnant. She pregnant. She pregnant.

Y'all not understanding because girls know what lyrics to songs now.

For real. So they staring at you. They like, we're going to fuck tonight. Girls

know lyrics to the song now. They start sticking their tongue out. Nah, they start

doing wild shit. We always knew lyrics. They start showing you all their piercings. It's

like, oh shit, wow. Those are the whores. Yes. Those are just the whores, fellas.

No, no. If you working in a song. Bitches that's fucking right

now, all right? Oh shit. Hey!

Damn, I ain't gonna lie to y'all. Just the record we needed a remix for.

With the person we needed a remix. With the person, yes, honestly. I hate doing

this because the fans already got me and you ice as being the Breezy stans.

Okay. Breezy's the shit. But listen to this, man.

Get Mona. Wait, Mona. I was in there breezy. She said they hate that on

the internet. We love Chris Brown. When you say you like Chris Brown, they go

right to 2008. It's like, girl, I don't give a fuck about none of

that. I like Chris

Brown, babe. Fuck. I like Chris. How could you not go outside tonight? And it's

my man's birthday. Yo, your cousin did this on your birthday? Oh my God.

Oh my god, yo! I didn't even think about this. I didn't even say no

place for you. Oh my god. Holak. Happy birthday, cuz-o. Where's the name of this?

I got you, Holak. Is the name Emerald Eyes? Oh my god. You're an

idiot yo.

Nah, this is crazy, man. This is great. We'll talk about this tonight, man. Don't

worry about it. Yo, new Gunna Chris Brown remix. In your phone right now. Don't

worry. We're going to talk about it, boy. God damn.

They must have known bitties was going to be on the show. They

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Let's get football picks. Worst take. Worst take. Yo, please, can we keep worst take

short, quick, and concise? Please, yo. The audience is large, and there's people out there

that actually know sports listening to us. We sound dumb as hell. Let's just keep

the 10 seconds. I'm going to – I'm picking the Texans. Same.

I'm picking the Texans. I am. Same. I have Patriots. Seahawks. The Pats got to

show me. I had the Pats coming out the AFC. Now, Sam Darnold, they say

is – Oblique is strange or something. They say he's going to play, I think.

At least if that's going to – If he plays in the Seahawks – If

you are the Seahawks, then they should beat the Niners. Yeah. If he don't play,

then I might. If he don't play, I'm picking the Niners. Yeah. Definitely. But I

think he's playing. The Niners are one of them teams that even though they got

100 injuries, it's not going to happen. They're going to play tough. Play hard. I'm

going Buffalo. I'm picking with my Super Bowl matchup of Buffalo versus the Rams. I'm

going Buffalo. You going Rams too? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm going Rams. And I'm

going Rams. And if I wasn't going Rams before – It's been

announced that Sean McVay, head coach of the Los Angeles Rams, is really, really, really,

really, really, really, really good friends with Matt LaFleur of the Packers. They're all the

Shanahan tree. Okay, but there clearly was Ben Johnson, Matt LaFleur beef

at the end of the Packers game that was highlighted. Okay, so he's inheriting the

beef. He's inheriting the beef. There was Ben Johnson saying, yo, there was a lot

of chirping from that side of that other locker room over there. Players heard it.

Coaches heard it. Talking about the Packers. Yeah. Players heard it. Coaches heard it. We

didn't take, we didn't take kindly to it. We let the game do the talking.

I like that. He went right immediately after the win. He went in there and

said, fuck the Packers. I like it. And I like the Packers. And he did

that sassy handshake. I fuck with Ben Johnson a lot, but he did the handshake.

So for Sean McVay to sit at the podium and say, me and Matt LaFleur,

he's a real, real, real, real good friend of mine. Yeah. Yeah. You know what

time it is. You know what I mean? That's an interesting point. Real beef is

back. I'm rooting for the Bears. Real beef is back. How big of a factor

do you have weather being in Chicago? I know they're making a big deal about

it. It's huge. Yeah. Warm weather teams do not typically, as a fan of a

warm weather team, they do not typically fare well in conditions. Dog, they said it

might be the coldest day. The Dolphins are soft, too. The Dolphins are soft. Joe,

they said it might be the coldest day in 50 years. They talking about potentially

canceling the game. They can't make it warm off the NFL for them niggas.

I got a team, too, that I think will win. Who that? San Francisco. One

of my niggas from San Francisco. That's all chicks. That's the only way they pick.

Well, it's the Eagles first, but we lost. We didn't do well this year. I

know that. That's true. And fire A.J. Brown. I know that, too. Y'all know Matt

Stafford played in Detroit all them years. He did, but it's a dome. It's a

dome, but he went home to Detroit. And that's only one person. And you know

Matt Stafford is like a – I'm about to glaze. But Matt Stafford is one

of them. He's different. He is. He is. Y'all heard the whole team talk about

Matt Stafford on the sideline when they was down with like 40 seconds left? When

the whole team was like, none of us was worried. We got the MVP over

there. He don't run the ball, throw the ball, catch the ball, block. He don't

do all that. Okay, but it's one thing you're forgetting, too. The Bears ain't never

played in January. They practice, Joe. The Bears ain't never played in no January with

the lights bright. They'd be calling Chicago in December, November. They practice. That ain't January

football. That ain't January football. The Rams are a team that is built to withstand

the cold. I will say that. They run the ball up. They run the ball

up. They play defense. They got two running backs. Trenches are good. That's true. You

ever just watch Puka Nakua? You think he give a fuck about snow? No, I

don't. No, you probably don't. I don't. He might not. Yeah, play with a broken

leg. I'm picking the Rams. Go Rams. And is there one more game I'm forgetting

or did I do one? Which one? Denver. The Denver game. Who plays Denver? Denver

Bills. Oh, Denver Bills. No, bye Denver. Buffalo. Bye Bo Nix. Enough of him. Enough

of Bo Nix. Our defense is tough, but I think that I'm not betting against

Josh Hill. Sports shows. Highlight reels from sports shows in the last two weeks of

January. We don't. Bo Nix enough now. Enough of you. You did it. 14 and

2, whatever your record is. Yeah, yeah. Enough of him. Seriously. What's the game I'm

forgetting? Past Texans. We picked the Texans. We picked the Seahawks game.

You got them all? Four games. I'm getting that mention. It's creeping up on me,

boy. That mention. Take your hardball. Oh, round of

applause. Come on. Come on. Round of applause. I like it. Round of applause. What's

not to like? They gave him the bag. Yeah, they did. What is not to

like about this? Harbaugh. How many years he got? Five. You think he'll be there

for five years? Has that been announced? Maybe not officially, but it's rumored to be

five years, $100 million. Yeah. You think he'll be there for five? Yeah. Yeah.

New York media is tough, but... No, the Giants' ownership is tough. Yeah.

I don't think they're that tough. Okay. I don't think they're that tough. Seriously. I

don't. Like, they've kept... coaches during bad seasons. And the people they let go

was every reason in the world to let by Joe. Sorry, Joe Judge. Sorry, we're

not loyal to you, buddy. Not Kaufman. Kaufman was there forever. When they fired him,

it was some bullshit, but it's cool. But he was there forever. He was there

for a lot of us. He was successful. He was cool. Yo, you talk about

what? Yo. Don't play. Talk about y'all, all right? This is a giant segment. We

Hottest coach out there, best coach out there. They targeted somebody. They didn't let them

leave the building without having something done. It is to be applauded when an organization

does that, especially when it's your team. Yeah, for sure. And I think it was

more of a situation. That's where Harbaugh wanted it. He had the power. He had

all the bargaining chips. He wanted to be there. Which makes sense because they have

a great wide receiver, great running back, a potentially good quarterback. Everyone's young. Pulled out

the checkbook. Yeah. Didn't seem to... As of today, hasn't had to fire the

Joe Schoen, the GM. He's going to have to just take a little back seat.

Yeah. Also, there's rumors of Todd Monken coming over. So, I mean. I'm sure. I

like it. What's not to like? I like it. Go Giants. Yeah. Go Giants. Good

for y'all. Ice, you got anybody you hope that y'all get? We didn't really get

a lot from you and the Steelers for you to be such a big fan

and for Tomlin to be there so long. I feel like we didn't ISO you

enough. Is there any? It came at the end of the pod anyway. That's why.

I like y'all coach. Mike? Yeah, I like Mike. I think we're going to regret

letting Mike go, but that's a different story. Nah, I just, I ain't like the

celebration. Like, people, good, we got rid of, it wasn't that. Like, Mike Tomlin still

did what he did. Thank you, Mike Tomlin. I think everybody should be saying thank

you to Mike Tomlin. It's just, it's time for something different. Everybody keeps telling me,

yo, you're going to see now when your team is the bottom of the barrel.

I'm fine with that. I just, I'm tired of the mediocrity. Same thing I've been

preaching, so I just want to see what's next. That's it. And they say that

Mike Tomlin stepped, that was his decision. Yeah. I had that wrong last time we

reported this, but there was no info out. Yeah, Mike Tomlin's decision to step away.

I did it. Enough is enough. Yeah, ownership was trying to keep him. Y'all go

rock out. Yeah. And then, so first it was rumored that he'll step away for

the year, do like broadcasting or something. And then if he decides to coach next

year, Pittsburgh will still have his rights and would have to trade him. Yeah. But

Dan was reported that he said, no, I'm done. I'm done, done, done. Oh, he

doesn't want to coach again. I'm not coaching. He said 19 years enough. Yeah. Yeah.

He said, I'm done. Yeah. We'll see how that. Yeah. It's emotional. I do have

one final sports, but kind of not sports question for y'all. I don't know if

y'all were able to see the, the presser that the Ravens owner, Steve Biscayati gave

a lot of, a lot of clips to come from it. Uh, one where they

asked him if the field goal kicker made that kick, would Harbo still be coaching?

And he was like, for a week? For a week. Oh, shit. Yo, that NFL

owner swag is a different. It's different. Assholes. It's on some. No, he was up

there on some. Bro, they come from old money. It's very, very different. Yeah, they

come from some other shit. He was fly, though, up there. He was fly. But

anyway, what I wanted to ask you guys about was he said that when he

leaves the earth, he has no plan on leaving the team to his children.

He says he has seen that bring nothing but turmoil to

siblings, nothing but beef over money. He said he heard Jerry Jones the

other day say that he would give a limb for a Super Bowl. And he

said when he's that age, he does not wish to feel that at all.

What do y'all feel about him saying I'm not leaving my team to my kids.

Bro, a lot of billionaires say the same shit. But what do you think about

the thought? Like, what do you think about that train of thought? I think it's

whack, but a lot of them had the same sentiment. So maybe they get to

something when you get that. I've never sniffed that level of money, but a lot

of them say that. Bill Gates, all them niggas be like, yo, I'm not leaving

my kids with shit. I think it's crazy. And maybe because we're black, we're going

to definitely think that that's crazy because... We so far behind the bus that we

want our lineage to catch up. I think it's asinine. But for this dude here,

though, I'm sorry. I ain't really mad at it because, one, he gave his reasons.

Like, I've seen it tear families up, this, that, and the third one. Two, that's

not my only source of money. I can still leave them some bread. I can

still leave them other things. It's just the team. Just not the team. Yeah, the

team. I've seen this happen and this fuck the family up. I don't want to

fuck the family up. Y'all do that. with whatever else we got going on in

the team, I do something else with it. I could sell the team for $4

billion and leave them that, but now I'm one through four. He's not saying I'm

clipping y'all. And you know which one of your kids are dumb. He might have

said all that, but he might know he got some dumbass, junky-ass kids. It's like,

you know, you can try your best with your children, but they gonna turn out

how they turn out. I mean, how many times do people do their best by

their kids and they still go the way they want to go? Or the first

half of their life is horrible and then they get it together in the end.

If anybody knows they got some dumbass kids, it's the motherfuckers that made them. I'm

not giving these dumbass kids this so they can fuck this up. Yeah, I think

you... Oh, go ahead. I mean, I would just set them up. You just set

them up for them to be okay. Like, every kid is not a business person.

That's true. I've seen some of them media moguls leave the station to the kid

and they fighting because dad's a Republican. He only, you know, like that kind of

shit. Now the kid's all liberal, got two niggas kissing on the commercial. You don't

even want that. You owe these two niggas kissing on the shit you built. I

told these motherfuckers don't go that route. They don't listen. Fuck that. It's true,

though. So you're right. I didn't see that term. You just do some crazy shit

with it. Now you old and mad. You know you won't care. It's true.

That's funny. I agree with you, Mike. Mark, you were saying. I got nothing to

add. I was waiting for her to end just to toss it to you after

that. Oh, my God. I will say this. I think we all have a duty

to make sure our kids are okay. billionaires' kids tend to turn out just fine

no matter what. Is that a fact? Financially. Financially, I'm saying

very few billionaires leave their kids with nothing. Their idea of I'm not leaving you

with much is I'm leaving you with just $20 million. You know what I mean?

You with just $200 million and that's all you're going to get. Yeah, literally. That's

how it be. So I'm not leaving no sleepover. What was interesting to me was

the second part of it. Because the first part is these kids fighting over cool.

But he also said... I don't want to be in that Jerry Jones mentality of

like, I'll cut my limb to win a Superbowl. Like almost like, I don't want

the last days of my life to be spent stressing about this thing just so

that I can give it to them. You know what I mean? I'm going to

do his best for me. Like my dad went before he died, he had properties.

He sold them. We encouraged him to sell them all so that he could enjoy

that money and he could live with it. Right. Cause he didn't, and not be

stressed about managing it. Um, everybody's life is different and we turned out fine. If

we were a different life situation, I would say something different. But the point is

it's okay to make choices about your life. make you okay and not always think

about the kids as long as the kids are going to be okay that's my

question to y'all to close this topic out that was interesting you just said that

mark because i've had these talks with my mom and with my parents as you

age dipping into your savings to live for yourself

versus right leaving it all to the kids like what do you what do y'all

what do y'all think y'all will be Spin that shit For me it's a little

bit of both For me it's a little bit of both I don't want you

to be In poverty I don't want you to be

Lacking or going through a season of lack For me But I also

I just think that it's important We talk about some of this stuff And how

it affects our communities I think it's important to build our communities up by leaving

some shit for the legacy. But I do want you to enjoy yourself. I don't

want you to be going, like, you out here on some bullshit. No, enjoy your

money, live, you know what I'm saying? I just think it's 50-50. It's a nightmare

of mine to be 70, 80-something, balling out of control on the money that I

worked so hard for, and then some of my kids or my wife or somebody

come whack me over the head. That's a nightmare, man. Yo, and

just out the blue yesterday on the ID channel. Just

yesterday on the ID channel was the story of Lorenzo Wright from the Memphis Grizzlies,

who, oh my God, rest in peace to Lorenzo Wright. Are you kidding me?

He had just told his man, yo, man, enough of these girls. I think I'm

about to settle down, get back with my wife, do this thing right. She in

Memphis setting up to murder him. with the gardener that she was fucking.

That's one of them stories I forgot about. Like I knew about it. But as

you watch it, yeah, nah, don't kill me while I'm fucking, fuck you. I'll shoot

a relative, nigga. You can't ball too hard. That's why you got to watch that

stuff. If your family look at you, not your family, but people generally look at

you like they can't, the only way they can get it is by getting rid

of you. Nigga, the wolf started off. The wolf, my lord. But that's why you're

going to be on point. You're going to see it coming because you watch Docs.

Kill the shit out of one of these. Listen, I'm waiting for you to play

with me like that. Are you crazy? Y'all better wait until I'm gone. I'm going

to be fighting the case. Oh, my God. Anywho.

Mark's man, Mark's man, Anton Daniels, seemed to get into a...

get into something with Corey Holcomb. He went on his podcast and boy,

that was a lot of fun. So I'm gonna play some clips from it because

it was interesting. I'm gonna answer your question. Okay. I'm gonna answer your question.

It depends on the circumstance. And the interesting thing about it is this, the

majority of the people, because you like to use a blanket statement, that's like me

saying all black people are stupid. Well, have you said all white people stupid? No,

I'm talking about cops. You should say that one time. I'm talking about cops. Because

it's easy to say all black people are stupid as an example. Say something about

the white people. No, no, no, no, no. I don't think you got to. I

talk about white people all the time. Well, I didn't hear you. Can you tell

me? I'm talking about liberal. Why are you talking about? Literally being the biggest enemy

of the United States of America. That's the thing I say. Every single day. Caucasian

female, the biggest enemy. Literally white, liberal women. I started it from earlier in the

fight, but I think it's all important to hear. What about their men? Facts. We

going to get there because you keep trying to get me to qualify it by

participating and joining in on the court. I think you're doing what's easy. No, no,

no, no, no. I'm doing what's real. I think you don't want to go against

them. Somewhere in there, it seemed like there was a conversation that they were trying

to have. Don't talk about your boss. I don't have a boss. We say that.

We say that, but here's the truth. I don't have a boss. It's a reason

you go after black males or black people quicker than you will go after

white males. What are white males responsible for? This country has the downfall of it.

I'm an equal accountability smoke giver. I talk about everybody. I'm just saying, I ain't

heard you talk about white men since you've been up here. You ain't been listening.

You ain't been listening. I've been listening to you. You don't have the capacity to

be able to listen because you're too busy. No, no, no, no, no, you got

me wrong. My capacity that you just criticized, that's an opinion.

Here's the fact. Have you said something about Caucasian males and how they destroyed this

nation? Let's slow down because you're talking loud, but you're not saying a lot.

No, you talking loud and you still talking around what you trying to do

to America to bring it down. I'm not getting into that. You dancing around it.

And that's why I lose respect for you when you start dancing and kissing Caucasian

males ass. Don't do that in front of me because I'm not an ass kisser

of nobody. Yes, you are. You suck the dick of black people right now. You

doing it easy. What you do, let me tell you what you do. Welcome to

the French now. I don't suck dick. I don't suck dick. Yeah, you do. Here

we go. You doing it right now. Believe me when I tell you. I don't

do that. I don't do that. Listen, listen. So don't come at me with no

dick sucking shit. I'm going to give you the same energy you give me. Let's

do a six. Let's do a six. Now he's switching seats with his co-hosts so

they could be face to face. They're right next to each other. Furniture movement. That's

right. Uh-oh. I don't give a fuck about none of that shit. Well, I tell

you what. Watch that dick sucking shit, because that'll go bad. Call it what you

want. I don't do no dick sucking, homie. You say a lot of shit that

I don't fuck with either. Okay, but that gay shit. Hey, homie, I'll tell you

what.

At this point, Corey is all in Anton's face. They're like doing like a zoo's

face off. We good. We good. I did

already. I don't do dick sucking shit.

I don't give a fuck about this shit. I don't give a fuck about this

shit. I don't give a fuck about this shit. I'm not running my mouth. You're

running your mouth. I don't do no shit. You doing this shit for the internet.

Yeah, he's going for the rumble. Now, if you want to save your time. No,

no. Hold on, hold on. I'll pause it, dear. They knows, knows like they're about

to start breaking this. Caucasian man tearing families apart, man. I have a question, fellas.

Again. Again. Who is this nigga? This guy? Okay, so Anton Daniels

is a popular, especially on YouTube, like commentator, right wing got a lot of

critical stuff said about black people he's the one who interviewed Brian McKnight that called

me out okay but he's also like some may say he is a rage

baiter right is he one of them where it's like he say shit cause he

know we gonna get upset and then we push I don't think he's a rage

baiter I think he believes that shit oh he really does I do I don't

I don't like what he says but I think he believes it oh okay that

makes me think differently about the argument but whatever go ahead what was y'all about

to say before I say something so I went so when I saw the headlines

it was like Corey Holcomb checks Anton Daniels. Corey Holcomb, you know, was about

to whoop Anton Daniels' ass. And as somebody who hasn't been a fan of Anton

Daniels, I pleasantly hit click. We can see that. But honestly, Anton didn't

come off bad to me. He stood his ground. Like, he didn't look like no

nuts. He didn't seem like no bitch. That's what I'm saying. Like, I personally, and

I don't know Corey Holcomb either, but it looked like Corey thought he had an

easy one. He was just going to go chump him and kick him off the

stage. And when dude was like, nah. Like, you know what I mean? He was

calm. But... He didn't back down. I actually thought it made Corey look bad. Yeah,

because he says we can go out back to fight. The only thing after that

is, okay, come on, nigga. If somebody, first of all. It don't take that long

to fight. He says to him, oh, you suck the dick of black people. I

wouldn't give a fuck if he said you suck the dick of a person that

doesn't even have a penis. You suck the dick of an orange. You can't say

to a black man, you suck a dick. You know what I mean? Or anything.

See, that's where I don't... You can't... I'm talking about me, a person, a shit

talker. I'm getting in an argument. I watch that because somebody will clear you for

that, like punch you or get really aggressive. Philadelphia, you can't call a man a

pussy. Sometimes you can't call a man a bitch. You can't say kiss my ass

to certain kind of men and you cannot say suck my dick. I know certain

men that no matter what you say that, they're going to put their hands on

you. That's what I'm saying. But, Mo, this is what I'm saying. If you tell

somebody you kissed their ass and he responded, well, you sucked their dick. I'm saying

y'all in the same conversation. That's all I'm saying. But then you trump ass with

dick? No. See, that's why I think... That's why I think it was it was

a disconnect I think everything was cool at first until he said yo you be

so you be kissing these white men's asses Yeah, which is an insult right for

now for so I could say no, but you suck black men dick I think

depending on where you from We don't look at them like they equal and some

niggas do look at it like it's equal like oh you disrespecting me now Let

me throw a jab back at you. I don't think he would have told him

you suck dick If he would have said K-San. That's what I'm saying. So I

think they are equivalent depending on who you're talking to. The bad part, not the

bad part, but once he said the suck dick shit, now your ego and your

pride get into it, you got to get up. You got to walk over there.

And surprisingly, homeboy was like, yo, my nigga. He turned his whole chair, bro. He

spent his whole chair on you, boy. What are you doing? He was like, yo,

dog, like, I'm not... I'm not scared of you at all. And as somebody, like,

I'm not, I don't watch Corey Holcomb stuff. Corey Holcomb comes off harsh to me.

So I don't, and I like dark humor. I like shit like that. But some

of that is too rough. When he was like going, him and Jess had a

thing, Jess Hilarious, and he was going real hard on her. It just turned me

off. I stopped really watching after that. But I will say that, For me, as

a black person, especially an angry Negro like myself, when I see stuff like that

the same way I was real impressed by Glasses Malone, with him having this debate

with this guy that says all shit that I hate, I'm expecting for you to

whoop his ass. If it get that far, I'm expecting for you to beat him

up. Or you to at least look like the tougher guy. You see those kind

of guys on the internet and they talking all that shit and they have all

this vitriol for us and then they might say certain things about white people. You

inadvertently start to hate them. I hate people like that. I don't care. I feel

like... Certain conversations with black people when we pull each other up needs to be

done in certain spaces. I don't think that that's a place that you do that

at. I've never agreed with that. You'll never see a post of mine from 10

years ago saying, oh, I hate when we do this or black people so dumb.

I don't even talk like that. I don't think it's progressive to our movement and

the shit we go through. And I think that we supposed to pull each other

up in certain spaces. You can't do that in front of white people. That's why

I hate shit like that. You understand what I'm saying? Go ahead, Ish. I've seen...

I've only seen the dude Anton a couple times. He mentioned me in a couple

of his shits. Did he like you? Was he positive? Yeah. I mean, he ain't...

When he went at you, niggas were sending it to me. And he said some

shit like, yo, Ish, yo, Ish, I fuck with you. I don't know. How'd that

make you feel? That's a bad... I ain't this nigga

fuck with you. No, no, it's... When I went to go defend Mark, he was

like, yo, dog, dog, chill. Like, sit this one out. I fuck with you type

shit. But... I only heard him a couple. You went to go defend Mark? Where

was this? On one of the pods. I went to defend Mark in one of

the pods and he was like, yo, chill. Oh, nigga, I thought she finally was

sliding. This nigga still won't slide. Nah, he was in Knoxville that week. God, man.

I thought he slid for Mark. Oh, you mean you said the DM? You wrote

a strongly word of the belt? Yo, but, um, no, and

then, um, I said some real estate shit up here or some finance shit up

here one time, and he took it and clipped it and expounded on it, but

those are the only two things I've ever seen of his. Outside of that, I'm

unaware of his content. Freeze, who won this exchange? I don't think neither one of

them won. Honestly. Oh, I disagree. I disagree. I don't think nobody won. If somebody

get up to chump you and it don't work, then you up. You got still

the funniest shit. But see, the reason why, because that clip continued. Me too.

And he kept telling them, like, all right, say it again then. Yeah. Say it

again. He did say it again. He didn't say it again.

Nobody wants to really take it. The whole thing is

juvenile. The whole thing is juvenile, bro. It is. That's what I'm saying. Nobody won.

I disagree. Let me tell you why. You got out your chair. You walked over

to this man. And you started to attempt to chump him off. As if we

switched seats. And every time he said, say it again, say it again, that nigga

still said, we could go outside right now. He didn't mutter the, when he said,

say it again. He like, yo, nigga, we could get up and take this shit

off and go right outside. That was his reply. So it wasn't like, yo, say

it again, I dare you, and then he cowered. He didn't cower. He's like, yo,

let's get up and go outside. But he's not going to say it again. Excuse

me, man, real quick. To me... This is part of being mature. If I just

said to you. If I know all these cameras, it was like the camera. But

not just the camera. Nothing mature happened. No, I don't know. I don't think Anton

was immature here. And again. Me either. Telling somebody to kiss they ain't. Well, you're

only saying that because he just slid you a couple months ago. You watching your

commentary. You almost had to.

Listen, do I got to show you how this is done when you don't fuck

with the niggas that you talk about? Because I don't fuck with either one of

these niggas. But I'm objective and I'm going to say, like, like I said, I

wanted this to go a different way. But it didn't go that way. And I

don't want no violence. I just thought after hitting play it was going to be

something else. Shut up. I don't want real life violence. And yo, if Corey Holcomb

would have knocked that nigga dick loose, you would have been like, yay! Why does

it always go there? How do you always end up with dick? That's an old

Virginia thing. It's an old man's dick. Knock your dick loose. I

knocked your dick loose. Don't say that again. I knocked your dicks loose myself. Oh,

okay. See, now look what you did. But I was making a point, right? My

point was, I think the mature thing of Anton was, look, you obviously feel disrespected

by this. I'm not going to just say it again to antagonize you. To me,

that would be rage bait. Like, look, if you feel like I disrespect you on

your platform, I'm not going to say it again, but you're also not going to

treat me like a pussy, is what he basically said. I respect that. And then

when dude kept talking, like, say it again, he was like, well, we can step

outside if that's really what you want. What does a loose dick even look

or feel like? All I know is... It don't seem like neither of them was

particularly interested in fighting, but Anton never said he was. He was just defending himself,

and Corey could have followed him. He was moving slower than the groomsmen when it

was time to actually do that shit. That says something. It looked so stupid enough,

too. I feel bad for that girl on there because every time Corey go too

far, she just deer in the head like, oh, like she don't know what to

do. You don't know your partner. And I think it's funny that I don't care

where nigga from. It's always the end of the scene. I'm from Detroit. Like, I'm

from Jersey City. I'm from the Bronx. Like, everybody think they hood. I don't like

that part. Yeah, he from Detroit. Should I continue the clip? Please, just a little

more. There's another clip I want to play, too. Let's see. I'll show you I

ain't doing it for the internet. I'm saying. Yeah, let me ask you, before I

play this, does it matter at all to anybody that this is content on Corey's

show? Because I'm conflicted, right? Like, if it's my show and

we turning up, then no matter what you think, ultimately, I win no matter what.

Yeah. Also, because it's my show, if I buck up, and you don't

cower, then I got a punch in your face. No, nigga, outside of it

being your show. Now, Anton has security there. They both alluded to... Don't disrespect me

like that. If you want to say, Anton, don't disrespect me like that, I'll respect

you. But don't boss up on me because you said a lot of shit to

me today that I don't fuck with either. But I let that shit ride because

you don't know me. You don't know me. So I'm gonna extend the same respect

to you. You called me out of my name, you said some wild shit, especially

with regard to how would they call this nigga out of this? Nigga, I'm telling

you that you did. You can't tell me how I get to get infected. I

got a question from bro. Okay. No, no, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold

on, hold on. How I get to get infected? Hold on one second. Hold on.

We just getting loud. I ain't getting loud. Then don't switch seats. No, I... This

is my show. That's what I'm saying. This is my show. But I take that

shit as a threat. Okay, well, it is a threat. It's supposed to be a

threat. And I understand that. It was meant to be a threat. It's a threat.

Right. Now, fuck what you talking about. I don't dick talk. All right, Anton's winning

me over in this. That's what I'm saying. Fuck that shit. Nigga, I said it

already. And he said you not going to do shit. Right. And he didn't. Look,

he got up to go... See, I like that. That's what I'm saying. Anton won.

Anton fucking won. What are you talking about? I don't fuck with all that. Anton

said I'm with you. Yo, let me tell you. This sucks, Corey. Real nigga shit.

Nigga like, yo, we don't got to do this for the cameras. We doing this

inside your studio. It's camera base. We going outside putting our dick beaters up like

men. That's the last one. That's the last one. That's the last one for you.

I know it's your birthday. You say hands. My hands is shorter. Dick, dick, dick.

I love it, itch. Yeah, you getting carried away today. Yo, fam, what I'm saying

is this one 50 is like running our dick suckers. God damn. Yo, dawg. If

you throw up your dick suckers, it knock his dick loose. I said dick beaters,

nigga. No, and then before you said knock his dick loose. Yo, but anyway, yo,

a lot of niggas would be like, nah, it's too much crowd. Let's walk around

the corner. Of course. Like, old-head niggas be like, yo, dog, let's go around the

corner. We don't got to do this right here. You making a scene. You having

all this commotion. Let's walk down the block. Plus, they both thinking shit. They can't

fight back there. Ain't enough room. Well, now, see, that's where I want to jump

in here. Last week, we was talking about whatever we was talking about, and Ice

was on his fucking, I hate when he get all kumbaya when it's two niggas

that we love beefing. He was like, yo, man, just don't want to see nobody

fight. And I was like, well, sometimes I do. And he said, name something. This

is another example of two niggas. I would have loved for them to fight. I

would have absolutely loved for these two niggas to fight. Because Anton was tough, but

his arms is about short. It's like this. He's got the T-Rex shirt. Yeah.

square up. And then Corey Holcomb seemed like at some point in his life he

was tough, but he's older now, so he's working from his brain. I want to

see these two niggas fight. I don't. I didn't need to fight. They wasn't about

to slide nothing. If they would have went in the backyard, I would have appreciated

it. don't want to see them fight because it makes us collectively look stupid in

my opinion. Corey, you wasn't sliding nothing, nigga. No, no, no. I hate when we

do that. Why two niggas podcast and fight and make us look dumb? We the

Joe Budden show. You know why? Because people from outside look at us collectively. They

don't look at them. You're talking about them white people and I don't care what

they think. I'm talking about whoever. If you got to go sit in somebody's room

for a contract and you're in the middle of a contract negotiation or dispute and

they looking at you like, eh. No. They're looking at you like, yo, Corey Holcomb

and Anton. Yeah, cool. They did. We fucked it up for you, yo. Yeah, sorry.

Get out. I was just about to give you that deal. Get out of my

office. I'm going to give you a podcast 360, but... Yeah, just because of Anton.

Them two niggas wrestling. But we do look stupid out there. I mean, especially the

shit we argued over. I mean, at some point, and it's myself included, right? We

who? We all... Those of us who engage in these type of dumbass arguments. That's

what I'm saying, myself included, right? You get in an argument over words at 40,

50, it's stupid. And we end up ultimately looking stupid. It's not worth fighting over.

You know, somebody... I mean, even my argument with Flip, like honestly, I wasn't, my

mind didn't go to fight until he stood up. Really shed a bad light on

the company. Totally made your button podcast look different. That made us look bad. No,

that made us look bad. Who us? Seriously. Us. Ain't that what you say? Who

us? Yeah, like dog. But I'm saying, even that day, I wasn't feeling anything. It

wasn't until he stood up that a different switch went off for me. What I'm

saying is. Nigga had to hold him on a belt loop. No, I'm not saying

I didn't. You went in third with the sucker. You was driving normal, and then

you got it up to about 30. Yeah, and I'm not saying I wasn't mad,

but I wasn't thinking, like, actual, like, throwing hands from words. I was there. Even

if I wanted to. But my point is, words shouldn't be setting us off, and

I think... at an age now where he said suck his dick or he said

you suck dick that's some dumb shit to be fighting rolling around on the ground

moving furniture for myself and Clis is dumb that's the first thing that stood out

it's like it's so stupid because it's not like they're don't get the argument doesn't

get to the height of it they're about to rumble over what they're really here

for why the fuck are you right came in for the white man y'all getting

you suck dick it's like it's stupid but I don't know I would appreciate it

if he would have punched him. They didn't have to fight, but they could have

moved around a little furniture, a little sweat for me. You know what I mean?

Because this is the thing. And no shade to y'all, but I hate when some

of us sit up here and it's like, oh, I don't want to see any

violence. It's like motherfuckers pod like that. You don't have to pod to have an

argument. I podded for two, three years. I never argued in front of the camera.

You don't have to pod and disagree and get to that point. Certain people pod

that way. And then it's like when shit gets, that's where the fuck it leads

to when you do it that way. It's like your opinion could be yours, mine

could be mine. We don't have to. But a nigga stick you and fuck with

you and play you know what I mean so it's like you know I don't

know I know what you mean you can't at home talk shit about it because

y'all watch it If you didn't watch it, motherfuckers wouldn't do it. People are at

that point now where they setting up the rumble. They setting up shit like that.

Because people like it. I think it's corny. I feel like I could be entertaining

just popping my shit. I ain't really got to disrespect nobody, for real. I'm very

good at disrespecting niggas. And niggas is making too much money now to hit you

when the camera is rolling. Oh, my gosh. He is, for sure. Sorry. Well, I

don't know how much these two niggas are making. They might still be broke enough

to scrap. My laptop was $100.00. I ain't, nah, with a camera on? Sorry. Sorry,

buddy. Sorry. So a nigga run over the camera, punch you in your face, you

walking off? Oh, no, he initiated the fight. Oh, okay. Okay. Is that how that

go? Yeah. Right that down, Juice. Yeah, he initiated the fight. I'm talking about me

hitting somebody while a camera is rolling, so that could be a battle for the

next two years. I agree with you. So that when you go in Amazon's

office or when you walk in whomever's office and they looking at you like the

nigga that was punching somebody on camera. Okay. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? When

you go to... I'm assuming that both of these guys are trying to increase their

media presence in their empires, I'm sure. So why the fuck would I do that

on somebody's camera? So now it's footage that's going to live on the internet forever.

Yeah. I don't want to do that. Corey Coffman has no reason to type. He

already the rawest, the dirtiest, the nastiest you can get. So if he going to

get a deal, he going to get it. Type a nigga like that type of

shit he do and say, he has to fund his own shit because people don't

stand, a lot of people don't want to stand behind and sponsor his shit. No,

that little folding target table and chairs is his peak. Yeah, like... I mean, really,

it's his subject matter. What Corey got going is what the fuck he going to

have going. That's not hating on a nigga. He doesn't put out shit like he

wanted to be no better. He does the Corey Holcomb thing. He going to say

some nasty shit. Because recently, the long folding tables come 16 inch. They long now.

You can get them in any size. Bro, that nigga was like, fuck my daughter

and her mom. Like, niggas like that, yeah. No Dove commercial for you, Pop Pop.

You don't ever even see Corey with his shape up no more.

He don't look like he'd pick a cologne before he leave the house.

I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just saying, look at this. I'm not trying

to be funny at all. I know it's thinking there. I don't have a horse

in the race. I think the fight would have been a draw. And it was

going to smell like feet in the beginning of the fight.

But, Anton, you do get respect for standing up and trying to take it outside.

Not for me, Anton. You do. You do. It's still fuck you, niggas. Fuck you

and your brain, nigga. It's still fuck both of y'all. Fuck all of y'all. That

wouldn't happen with me. It's so hard to watch from up here. Well, I wouldn't

have been around no nigga like that. I wouldn't have. My thing is, and lastly,

in closing, is that one person flew to the other person to have a talk.

And this is what it. Right. Yeah. And he said that, too. He's like, fam,

you brought me here to discuss certain shit on your platform. That's what I came

here for. So, cool, you've been saying disrespect. I ain't see the interview. But he

said, yo, you've been disrespecting me all day, and I've been letting it rock. And

Cory tried to talk crazy after homeboy left too. Let me see him. Did he?

Oh, he did. Oh, that's funny. This is a fact. I like this chat. Let

me tell y'all why I like the chat. No, no, no. I'm fast forwarding you.

Hold up. Because he did kick him out. Hold up. Oh, he kicks him out?

Well, he walks off. He walked up. Anton walks up. I tell you what I

said. You felt offended by it. So I apologize. Tricky word. All I'm doing is

rehashing the conversation that happened. Why you so easily offended? You still don't talk about

me? It sounds like I'm arguing. Because I'm right. I'll be around bitches and they

tell me about myself all the time. Be down. That shit don't hurt no feelings.

It's probably better this way. Because I just proved my point. Be down. So you

proved the point. Homie, just go on, man. Just go on, man. You

hypocrite. I'm not the judge. He's hypocritical. And I... You

can't say that once a nigga leaving.

Ooh. I just slay them. That's crazy. Dog,

he said that about that lady? If you got a bitch with you, explain the

bitch. No answer to be on my show, nigga. Can she be on the show?

I don't know that bitch, nigga. Ooh. Now get your whole ass the fuck on

and pay for your pussy like you got to. Cake ass nigga. Sweet ass nigga.

You can't do that. Come on, come on, come on. And the boys

going by there. That's what I'm saying. To me, It's a lot of wolfin', man.

It's a lot of wolfin'. If I had never heard of Anton Daniels before and

Corey Holcomb, I'd say I'd fuck with Anton based on that video. Just based on

how he carried it. Man, fuck that. You know what I'm saying? But we did

and we don't. So fuck both of you. Facts and facts. But that shit was

corny. What else? What else? What else? What else? What else? I was watching this

interview. I think y'all saw Jay Prince put it up. It was an old interview

with Hov and Tere. Did y'all see this? I did see that. Yeah, I think

I did. And Tere... is basically, Jay-Z was shouting out Scarface, showing love to

Scarface, and Tere was like, Scarface? He only got one flow. And then Jay-Z proceeded

to explain to him why that was the dumbest take in the history of the

world. He's like, do you hear what he's saying in that flow? Do you hear

what he's doing? Even if he had one flow, that's enough. But also, like, you're

wrong. He don't got one flow. And I saw Tere in the comments, like, you

know, when somebody was like, this is a terrible-ass take, and he was like, yeah,

it was. Like, I mean, he owned it, because how could you not? Because they

was killing him on that shit. But what made me think is, like, for y'all,

what is the worst take y'all have ever had? Not necessarily on music or anything,

especially as public people. What's the dumbest shit you've ever said that when somebody 10

years from now pulls it up, you're gonna be as embarrassed as he was about

that Scarface shit? I said a lot of stupid shit. One that comes to mind

is that Scoot Henderson should be considered as the number one pick before Victor

Wiminyama. I said that, that was bad. That was real bad. I had

a real bad one recently. was real bad. It'll come back. Your views take was

bad. Huh? I said your views take was bad. But um. I don't think that's

the worst. That was bad, Joe. Oh, go ahead. I'm talking about like egregious takes.

Like I said, Chance is going to be the next Drake. Like that's a bad

take as it ages. I just told y'all mine earlier in the pod. That shit

I said, I said J. Cole's never dropping an album. Oh, yeah. That might be.

It's got a lot of these. Seriously. I know. Your bold, bold take. It wasn't

bad. It's atrocious. It's not. What's your Bull Bull take? Bruh, I ain't doing this

with you. That's the point of the segment. No, because y'all niggas are spending 37

minutes on it, and I don't feel like doing this. It's your birthday. We would

not do that on your birthday. I said that Bull Bull has similar skills, if

not better, than Wimbanyama. He just ain't been used in the way that Wimbanyama has

been used. Withdrawing, Your Honor. Yeah, that was terrible. And a week later, guess who

said it? Shaq and all the rest of them said the same thing. They got

some of the skill sets. I get what you're saying. He doesn't think it's a

bad take. He got a pick who he thinks is a bad take, not y'all.

Boom, Mona. That's true. What's the take that you think was trash? I got a

bunch. I think that when you sit up here and talk for 20 hours a

week, you're going to say some shit. Which one was the example that? I don't

know off the top of my head, but it's a bunch. I got a lot

of them. Okay. I got a bunch of them. Fair enough. Just give us one.

I think it's cool. I know this nigga. This my nigga. He's not doing that.

I... He's not doing that. The racism one was bad, too. What racism one?

That's actually, that's what it was. What racism? It's my man's birthday, so I'm not

doing that. But that was another one. Because he can't seem to think of any.

That was real bad, too. What did you have, Mark? You said you had two

of them. Yeah, that draft with Wiggins, Jabari Parker, and Embiid, I was

really strong Andrew Wiggins. As the number one. I was worried about Embiid's injuries. I

thought Embiid would be number one. I thought Wiggins was going to be an all-star.

I thought he was going to be a consistent all-star player. It's not a bad

take. In retrospect, it wasn't like a stupid take, but it's one I regret. I

also thought that Jason Tatum was going to be only slightly above average. Because I

was following that trend of Duke players that turn out to be really good college

players and complete NBA players, but not elite. Oh, y'all got to give me your

shoe sizes so I can give to Jason Tatum. I feel like he said this

six months ago. That nigga said this about a year ago. Yeah, it changed, though.

Shit changed. He fucking with us again. No, seriously. He sent me a DM like

seven months ago. We know. All right, sorry. Them shoes is gone. First of all,

y'all said bad takes. Nah, T-Man ain't gonna do us like that. Y'all started a

topic about bad takes. Everybody talked about sports. Boo. No, I mentioned some of my

hip-hop takes. My one sports. Bad hip-hop take is harder for me to think about.

Not because I don't have them, just like I'm trying. Well, it's because every new

hip-hop album that drops, you call it album of the year and cover yourself for

the last bullshit you sing. Or new albums come out and they get better. Yeah,

I know. This was a good year. Yeah. This was a good year, so I'm

not jumping on that. That's what happened. Clips came out, and I said, this might

be album of the year, and then I really fell in love with Chance's album,

and I thought that was album of the year because it came after. Here's a

good take. Why don't all the men get together

and carry Gervonta Davis to prison? What's the

latest? What'd he do now? He's horrible. What did he do now? In general. They've

issued a warrant for his arrest because they got him on film going in the

strip club, grabbing somebody by the neck and head, pulling them out.

and her out. This is on video. They waiting for him to turn himself in.

They got the marshals out. His main problem is Park's I feel like is his

hands are bisexual. Like, you know. It's a problem. He don't got a problem hitting

the bitch in the morning or the night. You know. You come alive in them

topics. I don't know about that. Do you notice that about yourself? No, I don't.

And I disagree. I had a take. Y'all just skipped me. I mean, you said

it earlier. What was your bad take? I'm sorry. You're right. We skipped you. What

was your bad take? Because you kind of said like we had so many, but

you did the itch thing. I thought you weren't going to give one. I didn't

really, like, probably my worst take is I had to apologize for it. I watched

a documentary, I mean, a comedy special by David Chappelle, and then I got on

my podcast and said I don't feel supported by gay people as a black woman.

And I met white gay people, and they dragged me for four days. And I

lost 20,000 followers. But I apologize because I was wrong. Not because of the followers,

gays. Love you guys. That's a good beef to piece up. I mean, but this

is the thing about it. I was wrong. That's not even what I was, you

know what I mean? How many homes did you have at the time? Just wrong.

Probably like 180, something like that. And 20,000 were gay people? I mean, I have

a lot of big, huge gay followers. Like, seriously. And just because you get into

it with the gays, that's not only gays that are going to unfollow you. So

straights are disgusted by that. My mother called me about that shit. My mom. My

mom has never even came to a show. My mom called like, bitch, them people

set you up. Like, you know, they call you mother and shit like that. You

got to correct that. If you make white gays say it and stand on it.

And I did. I did an emergency episode. I apologize. And that's the thing about

having a platform. I think people don't understand why gay. It is important to apologize

when you're wrong. It is important to read and find out, oh, I was wrong

about that. It doesn't make you less of a woman or less of a man.

It makes you intelligent. Intelligent people make mistakes and learn. Idiots stand on it. I

don't give a fuck. That's how I feel. You sound dumb. Like, I feel like

I'm blessed with it, so. Well, you killed that, and I agree. Parks, you got

one? A bad take? Yeah. I didn't like Dan when it came out. My bad.

My bad. How could you? I don't know. Damn. Damn. All right, so

y'all don't want to help carry Tank Davis to the jail. Oh, no, yeah, I'm

saying. Listen, someone will get hit. That is necessary. He's not going down without a

fight. But he has to go now. So you're going to go in the room

first? I have zero problem going in the room first. You know, in the jail?

In the jail? They send, you know what I mean? Bro, can I tell y'all

something? I don't want to say the girlfriend, but he was dating his girl at

the time, right? And they were live, and he had scratches all over him, like

all over him. And then they were like, it was tension in there. But I

knew then, oh, he really hit bitches. Because, like, you know what I mean? When

you got scratches like that, y'all in there fighting. She's not just attacking you. Y'all

fist fighting. And being that he has licensed hands, I always looked at him funny

then, and that was years ago. Like, he'll hit you. He's known for that. Like,

you don't even have to be his girl. You can just stay the night. He

will smack you. Well, if he's innocent, I take it all back. But I think

they got enough footage of him. Somebody help him. Where's his old heads? Where's his

like people? Is he on drugs? What's wrong with that brother? Speaking of where is

your people? Actually, that's a great segue. Jay Leno

recently opened up that his wife is struggling with dementia. Which is horrible. And we're

praying for her. We are. Of course we are. Of course. And they've been together

for 45 years. They seem to have a beautiful relationship. He's taking care of her

24-7 now, he sort of opened up and he said, like, look, you know, my,

you know, I've had a great life. If this is the worst thing I've had

to encounter, you know what I mean, I still had a good life. He has

perspective on it. He was talking to Maria Shriver. When he did the interview, though,

he said that, like, the thing that shocked him the most was that people have

been walking up to him saying, like, you know, so are you going to get

a girlfriend now? Oh, shit. Because his wife is... It doesn't seem right. Well, that's

what I said. And then I had a spirited conversation with my wife last night

and I rethought this. Yeah. Is this what drove you to the McAllens?

What, Jay Leno? No, I actually was reading that in the bar. But it made

me think, like, how does your partner have to be

before you start to get another partner? they still living bro that's touchy with the

dementia because it's so many different levels of it and i've seen people that have

dementia and they still want to kiss from their husband or they still embrace you

know like i've seen people that are totally out of it but when they see

their significant other they hug they kiss and everything but will she remember what i

did yesterday she probably wouldn't but i just feel like if you really love her

and she going out that way i don't think that you would even be fast

to go get somebody else you really love her if depending on how bad dementia

is She could be a new person every time.

Facts. You could be the new person to her. You could just, you know what

I mean? You could role play this and turn it into something else. You could.

I mean. All right. And if I'm taking care of her, who's taking care of

me? God. Who else? Does anybody else matter?

Bro, it's sickness and health. If this nigga gets dementia and she's not dead yet,

no, you can't get another bitch. Well, that's what Jay Leno said. He said we

took a vow. I don't understand why people are so upset or so shocked that

I would honor my vows. And I support that. And if my wife, just to

be clear, wife, if you get Alzheimer's or dementia or any other thing where you

don't know where I am or who I am and you can't track me and

you don't remember what just happened, I will be 100% without a girlfriend because that's

how I roll. Facts. However, you can't track me. You hear what they said? She

don't know. They got married in 1980. Yeah. Back when vows meant something. Yeah, and

I think you got to honor those vows. I'm just saying, there is another way

to look at this. And I saw this with B. Smith up in New York

before she passed away, rest in peace. Some people feel like if I am so

out of it that I don't know where I am, I don't want you to

be without companionship. I don't want you to be alone. So if I got dementia

and Alzheimer's, I'm telling you, my wife can have a boyfriend. I don't care. I

don't know where I am. Oh, she really got the best of that spirit of

conversation. Oh, yeah. She whooped your ass. But that's a real mature way to look

at it. I agree with that. Me too. I agree with that. Bro, the thought

of getting dementia and Alzheimer's, all of that, it scares the fuck out of me.

And I really feel like if you really love me, take me out back like

a dog and just get rid of me. Don't have me wandering around the fucking

cul-de-sac, asking for shit, talking to neighbors. I don't even fucking like it. She said

wandering around the cul-de-sac. I got my motherfucking house dress on backwards, titties out, in

the fucking cul-de-sac. Get rid of me. Oh, they ain't seen nothing. Nigga. Oh, shit.

This is his birthday.

When you don't think about the worst ways to go, those are one of the

worst ways to go for me. Like, bro, literally you just doing your regular, you

go to Target, you Mr. Wild Wild, you go every weekend, then you have Royal

Farms just confused. You don't know what the fuck going on. You know what I

mean? Looking for the person now. You can't figure out why they don't have a

coffee you love. But look, outside looking in, it might be the worst, but to

the person, they don't even know. How's it that bad? They don't know what the

fuck it is. It's bad because I've watched so many documentaries. There's levels of it.

Everybody's not totally zooted. You might lose a day a week and then lose a

couple days. People in my family have had it and it starts to weigh on

the family because think about somebody that you love that you would die for and

now they don't know who you are. That shit is crazy. It's hard. Yo, they

start calling you your brother name. They start calling you other people's names. That shit

is rough. But you're speaking from the, I'm talking about the person. Cool. Now the

person, you wake up You looking at all these strangers. You don't know who the

fuck these people are, some of them? All right, you guys, this was just supposed

to be fun. Yeah, I wanted a little like that. Like, we don't care about.

Like, I just want to have some fun with. I was trying to be in

the show. You want to run a little bit? He got real dark. In that

in a fun way. God damn. Yo, yo, it never fails, though. Anytime I'm trying

to have fun, somebody says, yo, my family got that. And then you got to

shut up. Everybody got somebody with a nigga, can't we? It

don't matter. Them niggas on Dateline, them white people on Dateline, when they partner dying,

they go crush some pills up, drug them. Yo, take this. On Dateline, them white

people, I just thought about that when Mark was like, yo, people believe in their

vows, and the vows mean something. On Dateline, them vows mean so much that they

will kill you before they divorce you. Let's move that death date up a little

bit. Oh, my Lord. Till death do us part. But that's commendable from Jay Leno.

I mean, I also think you could get her a new boyfriend slash caretaker. So

we're even Steven. Yeah, but that's a lot of first dates. Man, listen.

Sick of him, bro.

That's funny. Sick of him, it's crazy. Hey, we're going to get her some motherfucking

fucking Chippendale hospice. Oh, shit. Chippendale Hospice. She's

some sexy hospice worker. I'm in the streets. You hear me? And I'm

joking. I don't know if I would be in the streets. I don't know if

I would either. But if I would, I'd still come home at the end of

the night. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Chase Swifts. It shifts. You know what I

mean? I'm right there with you. Yeah, that's true, too. But like, Chippendale's doing things

for holding me down. I'm back. Right. Parks, so you would be okay having a

girlfriend? I would get her a boyfriend, too, though. Slash caretaker. Because for married people,

you took vows and shit. We did. We did. I'm still there. Yeah, that's what

I feel. Just not like all day. It's a lot. In 26, are y'all still

honoring all the shit y'all said at the wedding? Yeah. Like every part of it?

Nah, in 26, the married people in 26 that I see getting divorced are getting

divorced over... Bullshit. I'm

just tired of this nigga. That's the only reason I ask. It's like, it seems

like today's married couples. Till death. Well, the love died. There's the death. We out

of here. That's how they be. Yeah, I'm good. All jokes aside, I can't see

me leaving. I can't see me leaving, bae. Me

either. Off camera, Manny offered a different take, which explains a great deal.

Jay Leno, we praying for you and your wife. We hope that she gets better.

We hope that you are all right in dealing with that because that's got to

be heavy as well. What else? Kai Sinat announced

that he's taking a break from streaming and he's venturing off into fashion. Yep. Oh.

And he talked to Laura Roach, fashion god. What do you say? He talked to

a lot of Roach about it. Y'all know who a lot of Roach is, right?

Yeah. Yeah. He spoke to a lot of people. He's doing a vlog. He's doing

vlogs. They following him. He seems to be doing his due

diligence and learning about the fashion. Smart. Textures and materials and all this

fashion shit. And he says that he doesn't want to use his clout to... influence

whatever he's got going on now he wants to really be a student of possible

yeah it may not be possible but it's cute to say yeah honorable to to

say it and have thought thoughts on kai sanat stopping streaming

learning how to read there's a lot of clips sam i'm not trying to be

funny no no yes yes i think it's very dope yeah i think it's fucked

up they're killing him for reading the dictionary Like, looking up words is not a

bad thing. That's a great thing. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, but I think it's the

timing of it. Excuse me, guys? It's after the breakup. Hold on. I need to

talk. I'm confused about that. About what? He can't read. He's trying to read better.

He's trying to learn how to read better. So he's reading, and then in certain

words, he'll stop and grab the dictionary to look up to see exactly so I

know what this word means. Okay. I love that. Yeah, I think that's great. And,

I mean, the joke of it for the people online is... Right after the breakup.

Yeah. Now you learn how to read. That might not be an old joke. Nigga,

it tracks. When you go through one of them breakups like we discussed, you start

finding ways to better yourself. Like, niggas start going to the gym. Niggas start jogging.

Niggas start doing mad shit. Yeah, you start trying to better yourself. Like, yo, wait

till she see me next time. With all these books. With all these books. I

just think that it'll sit you down and give you perspective. start doing the self-reflection

and it's good for we live in a copycat society if we're gonna copy all

the dumb shit maybe now he'll set an example for people to read and learn

how do y'all what do y'all think about his uh fashion decision i think it's

dope i don't know where it came from like i like usually when somebody says

they want to get in the fashion usually that's kind of represented by their fashion

where at least they was fly or they had a different look or whatever i

just didn't see that coming i feel like He could do whatever he wants, though.

You know what I mean? The way he stayed there. I remember bumping into him

on Clubhouse because he was jumping on Clubhouse first way before the streaming thing got

big or whatever. He really stayed down and made it happen. So I think a

person like that could be successful in anything. You know what I mean? I agree

with you, Mona. I didn't think of him in the fashion world. Yeah, me neither.

That doesn't mean he can't do it. But is there any indication from you, Joe,

as somebody who knows fashion, was that intuitive to you when you heard him say

it? It was cool he talked to La Roche. It was

really cool he talked to La Roche. He just not a fly

nigga. There's no disrespect to him. He's not a fly nigga, so I didn't see

him. Oh, that's what we're getting there. One day Joe's gonna punch me in the

face, man. Yo, this guy, yo. He's not so intuitive to you. That's someone in

nose fashion. I think he'll do well. I'm all for...

Let me start with, I think there's more to this story. Everything I say is

based on my belief that there's more to this cause and that stuff.

Just the timeline for me with the streamer awards,

homeboy getting accused of all that shit, her looking a little

off kilter. Don't forget the mental health conversation.

Right after the mental health conversation, just a cold retirement from

streaming. That seems weird because a lot of people, including whoever he's partnered with on

the streaming end and people that he works with on the production end for his

streaming, that's a lot of money allegedly being made over there. That's what I'm saying.

Even if he wanted to, normally when we see a pivot, it's because somebody read

their contract And now has a way to funnel things back to them the right

way. Accordingly, they've learned from whatever just happened. And typically, whoever you assigned to

don't really jive with that, especially when you're a cash cow. So even if he

wanted to do that, I would imagine somebody from AMP or whoever he was affiliated

with would be like angry or have some emotions about it. They might be. Or

we could really look at this like he's really going through some mental health shit.

And I don't. have the emotional capacity to sit in front of this fucking microphone

and stream. Oh, then it's the breakup. I forgot the breakup. I don't feel like

doing that shit. But usually corporations, large media corporations, don't give a fuck about your

mental health at all. And it depends on how much leverage he may have. Yo,

the young people, I'm with the young people prioritizing their mental health. They drinking less.

They selling less drugs. They fucking and getting married less. They just fucking, they just...

I mean, if they're doing it their own way. They're doing it. Yeah, I'm happy

for them. I'm happy for them. Go Kaisenat. For sure. I think he'll be great

in the fashion world. Can't wait to see what else he's got coming. And that

fashion money is insane, bro. For sure. It's definitely, definitely understated. It's a lot of

money. Like if you have your own line? Yeah. Like, I'm talking about, like, your

own line. Yeah. That's that ish. Like, different colors, cups. Different items, all that. Yeah.

For real, it's crazy. And if something new happen, you could jump right on it

right away with your line. Is it crazy like that? It's crazy? Ralph Lauren, bro.

Ralph Lauren. Get the fuck out of here. That's that ish. I need my that's

that ish quarter. Quarter. Quarter. Quarter. Yeah, come on. Quarter zip. Well, I can't get

the quarter shit. That shit hard. No, I'm lost. Wait, give me the quarter shit

in a small. Get the fuck out of here.

Look, they hating. He did. Look, look, look at the hate. They hating now. When

the hate don't work, they start telling you. He might need an extra small by

something. Yo, let me get down to small, yo, for real. When you get free.

What else? What else? What else? Yo, did y'all hear we going

back to the moon next month? I did not hear that. Well, first man mission.

They're sending humans back. And I'm saying back with air quotes because, yes, I'm sorry,

I don't believe it. But, yeah, we're going back to the moon. Well, you don't

believe that we've ever been to the moon. That's why I'm saying back like that.

I'm sorry. I don't want to relitigate this. We're not doing it. No, just to

be clear. Do you think it's fine? You're not just saying we didn't do it

when we initially said it. You're saying never in history have we been to the

moon. I don't think we put men on the moon. Ever. Oh, my God. I

think that moon landing was fake. It's been on television. Yo, some of the contrarian

shit I feel like niggas just hold on to. Why I got to be contrarian?

I just might not believe it. That's all? That's contrarian, I think. No, no. Contrarian

is, okay, y'all all do this. I'm doing the opposite of what y'all are doing

just because y'all are doing it. We all believe we believe. That's not what I'm

saying. You're basing it on the evidence. I'm saying I don't believe this. So if

I play Neil deGrasse breaking down us on the moon for Mad Lord, you still

wouldn't give up. Or the people like Buzz Aldrin who's been on the moon who

came back and gave the interviews and talked about being on the moon. Or all

the other countries. I also watched the movie where... Oh, right. I forget. It's all...

I could believe either... I believe either way. I feel like some conspiracy theories we

gotta grow out of. Yes. I'm as big a conspiracy theorist as they come, but

some of them, I also just think they're fun, not necessarily to be taken serious

in a lot of times. But that's why they're not fun, because people take them

serious. Yeah. Like, none of us really think Stevie Wonder can see, right? Like, we

joke about it. It's fun. It makes for great stories. But, like, we don't really

think he'd be driving cars and shit. You ain't going to walk this nigga to

the steps and leave him. I don't think he could drive a car. I don't

think he'd drive him. But, yeah, I think he could see. Because he's rich. Not

because he spent too much time playing instruments. Not because he's blind. I think I'm

going to leave. You going to leave? You... Before you said that, I said we

play around about Stevie being able to see, but nobody would walk his blind ass

to the steps and walk away. And you saying you do think he can see.

So you would walk his blind ass down the steps and just let him fall

down the steps? I don't think you'd fall. Dreads first. Dread. Well, they walk him

to every piano with the watch, yo. That nigga got one dread left. Yeah.

I do think Steve can see a little bit. Oh my gosh. And

I don't think that's as wild as we've never been to the moon. It's not.

It's not as concerning. Well, congratulations, I guess,

to the people that are going to the moon. Would you be down to go?

Interesting. I would. That's how, oh, OK, I believe it now. I would be down

to go. Would you think you were the first person? Once you got there, would

you be like, yo, I'm the first person on the moon? Oh, yeah, I did.

Yo, yo, it's real. It's real. It's real. The whole time he only seen us

and get it right up there. It's real. He trying to go. Do you think

it's flat? Yo, man, we're not doing that. OK. We're not. We've done that a

million times. Gail King went to the moon, right? Allegedly. No. They just

went right up there. They went up and came back. Gail King here was a

mess when she left the moon. Bro, why? She went to camera on the way

back. Yeah. Congrats. What else? Congrats to

Kaisinad or anybody. And the moon. Buzz Aldrin, whatever you like.

Buzz Lightyear. If anybody was ever there. Well, congrats to them. Would you go

even if your girl couldn't go with you? Yes, bro. I would go to the

moon. You think your girl let you go to the moon? Yeah. Without her. Yeah.

All right, nigga. He had a tracker. He ain't going to the moon. You look

a little closer to Saturn. You said the moon. That big

booty bitch in the background on the... All right. Elliot got long hair. What else?

What else? What else? What else? What else? What else is important? How are we

out in New York? I didn't experience that. No, that's for y'all Verizon people. Yeah,

I didn't experience that. Verizon sold y'all data again. For sure. Yo, it happened.

We're so desensitized to it now that when the news break of the data leaks,

I'll be like, damn, and just keep scrolling. Yep, yep. They made off, made a

whole bunch of money from our shit. Verizon, y'all couldn't use the phone for hours.

Hours. 19 hours. No, it was a long time. I don't know. I'm not. Me

either. I'm not Verizon gang. And I don't call people. Likewise. At first when it

went out, they thought it was all of the companies. But then I like the

other phone companies shooting back. Like T-Mobile was like, hey, we good. That's just them.

AT&T was all like, no, no, no, no. The reason why it's not working is

because you're calling a Verizon phone. We straight over here. And if you want to

come over here, here's the link. Can T-Mobile join the phone wars? Of course. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Oh, because y'all merged. Yeah. Now, right? I'm so old. I still

remember when they was body cells. 15 years ago. Oh, man. Who they merged with

again? Sprint. Oh, yeah, they're big dog now. Big dog now. They're spending big money.

God damn. Singular. Wait till I make a phone.

I'm telling you, I'm going to make something. That Mint Mobile and all that shit

made a... Mint Mobile? Maybe when Ish was the last one with a BlackBerry holding

on because he thought the feds was tracking him. Ish was the last one with

the BlackBerry. I remember you, dog.

I'm sorry. He was in corporate. A lot of the corporate people used BlackBerry Subway.

Yeah, fucking corporate Subway again. We had like a BlackBerry pen and all that. Fucking

corporate Subway. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I ain't going to say that. We

all had a BlackBerry pen. Tell me something that was better than BBM. I didn't

have a BlackBerry pen. It did not exist. love the trio the palm trio I

had one that was my shit but yeah no we all have you yeah I'm

with you the days

let's see let's see let's see let's see we did Kai speaking of outages oh

there we go thanks Mark speaking of outages I see on the board and I

know nothing about this it says power goes out at Jim Jones' studio can somebody

help us help me understand what happened um Yeah, apparently. I mean, I saw 50

Cent Post-it. I don't know how. I have no clue. But 50 Cent Post-it would

look like someone standing behind like a curtain or some shit recording

inside Jim Jones' studio. And they were asking like, hey, I mean, there were flashlights

and they're asking, you know, if we call Con Ed, can we get the power

back on? And he's been making jokes nonstop since he's put the clip up there

with turn off the lights and the background. Oh, shit. Teddy P? Yeah, Teddy P.

He with Teddy P on. Wow. But it's just more... For the people that

don't live in New York, it was 15 degrees at 4.30. 4.30 a.m.

It's been cold as a bitch. Winter's back. Arctic cold out. It was about 19

degrees around 5. Good time to add some heat. Yeah. Yeah. It was cold.

And then Jim is online leaning into it. He's sitting in the darkness surrounded by

candles. Same way he was doing the construction himself. That's the thing about

Jim. Jim said it. He was like, yo, anytime y'all talk about me, I'm going

to play the algorithm. Y'all going to talk about me and I'm going to play

along with it. That's a good way to lean in so that whether it's true

or not, you got the out. I'm sure he can afford to pay the electric

bill. It probably was either a power allergy he couldn't control or it didn't happen.

But either way, it's funny. Man, the realists of niggas done had their fucking lights

What the concern needed to be is who the fuck was behind that curtain. That's

what I wanted to know. That's what I wanted to know. Probably the same person

that was on the phone with 50 giving him all of his lease information. That's

crazy. That was crazy. But with that type of footage, you can kind of figure

it out. Especially if you're on camera, you can figure out who the fuck that

is. Unless you have like an open door where everybody can just come whenever. You

know what I mean? As long as you know who being your shit, you can

figure it out. You can figure out who that was. You're getting your ass with

for doing that to me. Oh, no. discussion. I'm going to act like everything cool

you're going to get in here, we're going to cut the lights out on you.

You're going to get your ass wet. Because you know what you did, nigga. We

ain't going to ask no questions. That's just some grimy, cool shit. You're going to

turn the lights off on them? Yeah, we're going to jump this nigga. You're going

to have a lock in the sock? Maybe, nigga. That's exactly what used to happen

in boarding school. You come in somebody's room, there's all the niggas from that floor

in there that cut the lights out and they start to commence to beating your

ass. That's how I was in boarding school. Oh my God. Boarding school, it's like

Yeah, board school tough. Did they ever beat you up? In board in school, yeah.

In the room in the dark? No, in class. Oh. Damn. That was like a

one-on-one, though. Yeah, you got beat up in geometry? Jonathan Isaacs. Fuck you, Jonathan.

Look who on top now, bitch. Jonathan Isaacs. Yo, you see how niggas carry their

trauma with them? I know the name of anybody that would beat me up. Jonathan

Isaacs was the 6'9 freshman that...

Is that what they called him? Well, he was on the basketball team, on the

freshman team, and they were looking to see if he could develop and make varsity.

And you started to fight with him? He's better at boxing. Yeah, we were in

class, and yeah, I said something. I knew it. Say it again. You said it

again. I said it again. Probably worse, too. He got up first. I didn't have

all the fighting tools and knowledge and... Oh, no, now when he got up, that

was... Oh, what's he coming over here for? The six-time guy.

Oh, shit. Yo, dog. That nigga dunks your dumb ass. Now that I think about

it, anytime I ever got beat up, I got dunked like that. The funny shit,

I was sitting in the desk, and the desk at the time... It was the,

oh man, this is so old school. It was the desk that was attached to

it. The one piece? You can't get out them shit. Nah, you did that. When

I tell you Jonathan picked the whole desk

up in the air. Boom, say it again. Just went back to his seat. And

you got up and they say nothing. Did you say it again? Joe said it

again. That's why he fucking anti-crack. He got up and moved with that

desk back and said to fuck there. I'm sorry that

happened to you. I can honestly say I have never been in a fight where

I didn't hit back. That's some pussy ass shit. Thanks. I'm

hitting you back. Fuck that. You're going to have to kill me up here. Sometimes

you make a business decision. That's a fact. Don't make it worse. As a man,

sometimes you make a business decision. Numbers start falling like fuck this up.

Stand up, pick you in your chair up and throw you. I guess that would

be best to dissipate that. No, he was a real 6'9", 6'10", arms down to

his knees. And now he's using long arms to panhandle. Likeskin, freckled nigga with red

hair with anger issues, I found out. It's hard being licekin with red hair. Yo,

what school is that? Lauren Berg in North Carolina. This nigga trying to find out.

We gonna find him. I'm gonna find him. Stop it or you get mad again.

I'm interviewing him for my Patreon. Throw that whole couch off the balcony. What that

guy doing to me? Oh my God. That is crazy. That's funny, yo. What do

you mean? Because if he slid me, he could slide you. We different slots. No,

same part. Now y'all both slots. Same part.

Y'all both slots. Let me see what else, what else, what else, what else, what

else. His and hers. His and hers. Let's go. Let's break this bullshit down. I've

been waiting to talk to y'all about his and hers since way before y'all was

waiting for me to talk about his and hers. But last few pods, the whole

crew I was like, oh, I'm on episode one. Yo, I just started. I'm on

episode three. And I'm like, all right, y'all watch it so we can talk about

it. Because if there were ever a show made for a podcast to discuss,

it's this one. Six episodes, his and hers, married couple

whodunit. They open with somebody dead. You got five episodes to figure out who did

it. and they throw you 90 million curveballs. That's what I hated about it. And

I guess that's jumping ahead, but whatever. When they do the twist at the end

and be like, psych, it wasn't that the whole time. It's like, why did I

just watch six hours of this bullshit? I hate twists like that. I hate twists

like that. Couple your ears, Antoine or Ice. Go to Starbucks if you want. I'm

on episode two. And on episode two... This is about to get spoiled for you

now. Yeah, the first... I'm about to spoil it. Like, use the bathroom. Go pee

or do something. Yeah, go ahead, man. I'm going to spoil it. I'm telling you.

But I'll tell you where I left off. At the end of episode one, you

knew who did it. Like, you just knew. You thought you knew who did it.

Yeah, that's typically how this goes. Then at the end of episode two, you were

like, eh. So, so far, this shit is fire because the shit that is

predictable be ass to me. The shit that really puts your mind... to twit, that

shit is fire. So I'm on episode two. It was something. Yeah, step off. You're

one yourself. This shit got an M. Night Shyamalan. That's what I took from it.

Like I said, I kept trying. I haven't made it past one. I just be

like, all right, I'm out. Listen, the show's been out long enough. Listen, even if

I don't spoil it by telling you who did it, because maybe some of y'all

still need to see it, I'm definitely going to talk about who didn't do it.

Sure. Um... I was intrigued off the bat by the

cast. I love dude from Walking Dead and Punisher and all that shit. He's great

all the time. Tessa is also great in everything. And the cop dude was in

Orange is the New Black and a bunch of other shit. He's good. He plays

kind of the same character, but he's a good dickhead dude. The cameraman dude. Yeah.

And Rem had read the book, which also kind of ruined it for me, too,

because like. of the whodunit fun in a relationship is both guessing whodunit. Oh,

yeah. But she knows the whole time, so it's kind of like... She's just watching

you guess. Yeah, she's watching me guess. I don't care for that. Do she do

to try to play along with you? Yes! Yeah, that pissed me off. Stop. Don't

be little me in this way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. By episode... By the end of

episode two, I thought that it could still be Anna. I thought it might be

one of those whodunits where the suspect is the one who's right there in front

of your face. I thought it could still be Anna. By episode three, I was

off of that. When I learned that Duffy was

fucking his wife and Helen, I said, okay,

it's Duffy. Then I thought it was...

homeboy's sister for a second. Okay. For two seconds. She got that little, she was

a little off kind of vibe. Yeah. And then she had the shit in the

drawer that was coming up. Like somebody had to have the little friendship bracelet. Yeah.

And then by the time they kept going on with this friendship bracelet story and

they made it seem like it had to be one of the girls in the

crew. Right. I immediately guessed who I won't say, which ended up being the

person before the person. Yeah. Like I guessed her. And I did,

by episode, by the end of four, I figured out who it was. Really? Yeah.

He was right? Yeah. I guessed the last two people. I guessed the fat girl.

I'm just talking about it. I guessed the fat girl from the friend group, and

I guessed the mom. Okay. I did not see the mom coming. Nobody seemed to

see the mom coming. I hated the way they revealed it. a fucking stupid lettered

monologue at the end. Come on, man. Kaiser Sose. Yeah. They were doing their Kaiser

Sose style. That shit is pretty. It was entertaining still. Oh, super entertaining. Listen, the

first time that they showed the mom just walking through highways, I was like, okay,

something's odd about you. Right. Gotcha. Gotcha. But listen, really good entertaining show. I

can't lie. Yeah, it was entertaining. And it's quick. It's quick. It keeps you in

it. Like, I don't know how these guys are... I don't know.

I'll try. I mean, I'll try it. Do you and Gish get to control the

remote in y'all's house? Yes. Or do y'all's girl control the remote? Like y'all take

a long time for certain like dude shit. Says the person that you can't finish

a show if your girl ain't there. Cool. You. Well, I like watching shows. Oh,

OK. All right. All right. But yeah, but now I don't know. Just this one

didn't do it for me. That's it. I'm watching and I'm getting like, next to

you, I'm distracted and I'm not paying attention no more. I got to go back

again. I just, I have not made it past one. I gave up. You know

what I was pretty good with A Crazy Sister, too? I mentioned it briefly. The

Jon Hamm show on Apple, your friends, your neighbors or whatever. That's a good show.

It's only one season. I cut that off after. Yeah, rightfully so, too. I cut

it off after episode seven. Really? You didn't like it? By episode seven, they annoyed

me. Okay, fair enough. By episode seven, he done met the girl. He's

starting a robbery business. He keeps going to the pawn shop. It's like, yo, dog,

get to what we're getting to. And then he's escalating. He starts with the watches.

Then he gets to the art. Then he gets to... Now he's just breaking in

everybody's house. It's like, all right, buddy. All right. Where are we going with this?

I never finished it. I liked the show. It was good. You finished the whole

thing? I did. I did. Was it a good finale? Yeah. It wasn't... And they're

setting up season two. It's happening. Oh, it is happening. Yeah, it's happening. It wasn't

amazing. It was kind of... a little bit better than his and hers to me.

It's like entertaining. It's not amazing, gripping television, but it's an entertaining show. If it

were done in six episodes, I would agree. Okay. How many episodes was it?

Nine? It might have been ten. It might have been nine. Yeah, they wasn't getting

ten out of me. Did you get into Hunting Party back yet? Not yet. And

I ain't gonna lie, I turned on the first episode of Hijack and cut that

motherfucker off. I cut that off. Oh, really? I cut it off? Yeah. I saw

it sitting there by the way. I might have made it about 15 minutes in.

I was like, eh. I cut it right off. You just got off the plane,

survived. Now you on the train looking dumb in the face. I'm not doing this.

Wait, so they're just going to make the hijack in the train now? Yes, the

train. Oh, God. From the same people. But you can see the suspicious dude getting

on the train. You see it all already. And I'm like, eh. Yeah, I'm not

letting them do that to me this year. I mean, I'll get to it, but

it wasn't a... At some point. I'm going to watch this right now. I'm going

to watch it, but I'm not rushing to it either. And since we're on TV...

They're also ain't really shit out. I'm not going to spoil it because it probably

just aired today or so. But they aired the series finale of

Power Force. Oh, you can take this one away. Let's take it

away. We don't care. I'm going to ice on this. We done, yo. You watching

it to work? So I can't let anything go. Oh, you guys. Same. I watched

Empire to the last episode. Oh, shit. Same. Same. So I haven't finished Force, but

I will because I started it. But I was going to ask y'all if y'all

have watched Heated Rivalry. What's that? No. What's that? It's the newest rage. It's

all over the internet. People are talking about it. It's a series. I think it's

streaming on HBO Max. It's about two gay hockey players. I did not watch that

one. Damn, Ice put his phone away quick. No, I found it. Oh. You said

HBO Max. I was trying to see where it was at. Oh, okay. I saw

them on the Golden Globes, but yeah, I didn't. Women are going crazy. Women are

really into it. They're watching it. They say it's amazing. They're into the dudes that

are playing the protagonists or whatever, but also I hear it's just good writing and

a good show. Okay. Yeah, so I think we should all as a group outing

watch it. What's the name of it? Heated Rivalry. I don't like the group outing

part of that. Oh, that's layers to that. I didn't mean it like that, but

that's good. Mark, you have to be joking, yo. I heard it's an amazing show.

I don't care about the show. Five minutes ago, you joined the 2016 challenge?

You think I did it myself? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I had auto-timing.

I didn't know I was sitting here, but yes, I picked the photos and the

text, yeah. So then you did it. You did it. I thought you were talking

about me doing it on the show. I don't know. It's just the fact that

you joined this 2016 challenge. Somebody help me. I'm lost, too. Everybody's 2016, 2016, 2016,

2016. I woke up and Roxy Diaz was doing 2016. Mark, you were in that

one, too. What am I missing? I think for a lot of people, 2016, well,

one, we know it's 10 years ago, but why? Like, they didn't do it last

year for 2015. But for 2016, that was like the last...

summer that a lot of motherfuckers. Yo, yo, yo. I apologize. Mark. Mark. Can you

get a paper towel, please? Mark just spit Gatorade all over my white couch. Oh,

even worse. It all hit me. I wish it hit the couch. It's crazy. It's

just a child. That's what I'm talking about. Well, it's on you and the couch.

Can you learn how to keep liquids in your mouth, please, Paul? Oh, all right.

That was crazy. What happened? What did you say that was funny? I didn't say

two words to this nigga, bro. I didn't say nothing. that's his game. He

doesn't say anything. You know what he does. It's a face. Yeah. All right, well,

this is an audio adventure. No, like I was saying, for a lot of people,

2016 was the last, like, amazing summer. Amazing year. Pre-Trump, right? Yeah, it was pre-Trump

war. Yeah, so it was like, that was the good, the good times, damn near,

before shit went and got fucked up. Before the pandemic. We're here now. So, I

could see why some people would want to remember 2016. Those were good times. 2016

was amazing. It was amazing. I mean, 2016 deserves to be, have a tribute. Yeah,

that's how I feel about it. I mean, it's been 10 years, so I get

why people are just marking 10 years. But I'm just saying, like, I don't remember

last year, people doing the- They didn't. They didn't. That's what I'm saying. 2014. So

now you say, why 2016? And you start to think, what 2016 meant? It was

a very special year. 2016 may have been the best year of my life. For

a lot of people. Not judging by these picks. Let me see. All right, you

met the RZA in 2016. No, no, these are jobs I had. This was like

when my career took a whole different turn. Don't try to clean it up. You

met the RZA. That was big. You met Patti LaBelle. That was big. You met

Jesse Powell. That's Jesse Williams, and that's me co-hosting Harry Belafonte's Music Festival. Wait, Jesse

Powell. Wait, you met Jesse Williams. Why the Jesses? You met Carlos

Santana. We were working with, yeah. You met Donald Glover. Danny

Glover. You're saying everybody you met. It's Danny Glover. It's Danny Glover. These aren't people

I met. These are me. This is me at major events that I was doing.

I was hosting a BET special, MTV special. You met Harry Belafonte. His last major

interview. That's huge. You met Belbiv Duvall. On my late night talk show that launched.

You keep making it sound like I'm just meeting people. It just sound like you

collected all your meet and meet picks. I wasn't going

to say that. I ain't seen the pictures, but the way he making it sound.

Look at these pictures, yo. They look like groupie pictures. Those are we working pictures.

Yeah. No. Exactly. Thank you. No, no. I'm talking. No. I'm talking about when niggas

take a picture. Yes. That's what it is. We working. We working.

These are definitely we working. Because if you was just big enough like your show,

where are some of the people that work your show from behind the scenes? Like,

oh, we're the people that help keep the show running. There's the whole power cast

right there. I see why you still watch it. That was the first power cast.

You're right. Yeah. You're right. But yeah, that's when power was popping. They all did

a surprise visit on the set of VH1 Live, which was my show. So that

was the point. Like, in 2016, it was the big year. And then I realized,

like, oh, that was the big year. That's before I started talking about certain things.

Yo, you was Photoshopping your face on the promo for this tonight, this VH1 Live

show? That's my real face. Mark. It's 10 years ago. I was 35, 36. No,

buddy. You're Photoshopping your face. I didn't. VH1 launched that. Anyway, I agree with y'all.