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>> [music]

>> Microphone check. What is this?

JB [music]

back to business.

I guess right now we should start the

show.

>> Yo, salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. You

know what it is. We in the building. We

talking. Look at Mark. Yo, Mark. It was

It was Martin Luther King Day uh a few

days ago.

>> Oh, that's okay. Yeah, this makes sense.

>> And that's when Mark goes and does 20

speaking engagements. He woke up,

started posting all his old pastor

clips.

>> That's true.

>> I was up at 5 in the morning on his

Insta story and seen he was up posting.

I'm [laughter] like, "Yo, Mark, my

brother, look at you, man. Now you're

sitting there miniature."

>> Yes. You like when you don't sleep, you

look more miniature than you nor

[laughter] you know. Like you shrink in

the chair. You got your coffee like

that's going to help. You didn't The

hoodie shrunk somehow. The jeans.

>> Everything is tinier. Pause.

>> Yo, not everything, man. You know the

the the bills are getting paid.

>> No shape up. Look at your mustache.

>> No, you got a haircut.

>> I got a haircut.

>> I got a haircut.

>> You got a cut?

>> Well, dude, did they skip your face? I'm

talking about your face. [laughter] Look

at your beard. Did they not do Look at

you. Wow.

Thank you for coming in to work, Mark.

That's what [laughter] I expected. God.

Madison, Wisconsin. Negative7 this

morning.

>> Oh god.

>> I got up at 5:00 a.m. Flew here.

>> You sound like [ __ ]

>> Made it on time. I had no voice. I would

have called out, but I didn't know who

else. You know I mean I wanted to make

sure everybody, you know, there's enough

people here. You know what I mean? Cuz

it's six season. So I thought, you know,

>> we show up

>> unless people get sick. You know what I

mean?

>> Well, yeah. If you hop from airport to

dirty ass airport speaking at gate B52,

we can't all afford to find private.

Joseph,

>> no, I'm not flying. I ain't been

nowhere. I'm not flying. Man, I don't

have a trip booked.

>> It is stay in season for sure.

>> Word.

>> Oh, I The phone this morning said 17,

but it feels like three.

>> Yeah, I'm tired of that. Feels like Tell

me what the

>> I'm not going nowhere. I woke up ate

some tuna fish the other night.

[laughter]

>> Like when you plan to be in that's some

black people bunker [ __ ] Like you smoke

this tuna some old

days.

>> Look, you look at the weather and you

see all right, it's going to snow or

it's going to be cold and [ __ ] You

stock up. You ain't going to win. No,

I'm not leaving tuna.

>> I made some tuna

salt crackers.

>> Tuna hell crackers. And my girl was

like, "Yo, you on your you on your Let's

do the lettuce wraps on them." I said,

"Woo!" [laughter] She upgrading the

lettuce cups with the tuna smoked.

>> I'm not a big fan of the lettuce wrap.

>> It's good.

>> I love a good lettuce wrap.

>> Good. She slice some tomatoes, put them

on. It was good. It was good.

>> Joe, I knew you was on that on Saturday.

That's why I didn't call you. We

supposed to We talking about going to uh

truck out to Simona in in New Brunswick.

My girl, ain't you going out with Joe? I

was like, "Is he on call?" I'm not

calling him cuz it was cold and it was

snowing. Yeah. But the funny thing about

that like we should we should have

communicated cuz I think you got it in

reverse. Like Mona's thing was Sunday.

>> Oh, was it a Sunday? I'm sorry. I said I

meant Sunday. I'm sorry.

>> It was a long weekend. Sorry.

>> When when Mona was here, it was you you

prompted you was like, "Yo, Mona, I'm

going to see you Sunday." Yeah.

>> And then I said, "If you go,

>> I'll go." So it's not, "If I call you,

that's backwards."

>> It is backwards.

>> Oh, no. It's totally

>> He was trying not to go. He was just

like, "As long as Joe call, I call."

>> I know it's going to happen. That's the

move.

>> Joe's a team player. Joe be like, "Oh,

yeah, let's roll." And then I'd be like,

"No,

>> and I want to see Mona." I just It was

It was snowing outside and cold as And I

couldn't get off.

>> Yeah. The weather was The weather was It

was bad. It was bad.

>> That's how I ended up in the Toro Loco.

>> When it's cold like that, you look for

any reason to not go. I said that's how

I ended up in the Toro Loco. The Hunawa.

What is that? It's a local bar. It's a

little local bar around our You back at

the bar.

>> You're back at the bar.

>> What's up with you? [laughter]

>> Oh, that was a real spirit.

>> The spirit lingers. [laughter]

>> No, Christmas.

>> I have been in a bar five days in a row.

It's just coincidence.

>> Are you okay?

>> I'm not even drink. I I have I order one

drink.

>> All right, man.

>> And I nurse it the whole time.

>> Lying. I'm dead. I keep cuz it's whiskey

and I don't really love whiskey like

that. So I I can just I can just sit

with it the whole time.

>> That Mallen six.

>> Yo, [laughter]

that Mallen Mallen 3.

>> The Doritos Locos does not have Mallen.

>> They did not. They did not. But the

other spot I did has some fly. I was at

two bars that night. But

>> wait wait wait.

[laughter]

>> That said the Doritos loc.

>> So you bar hopping?

>> I was bar hopping. I was meeting two

sets of friends that were

>> just two different bars. Well, how you

got big? It's too cold for this

behavior. [laughter]

>> I go out like five times a day.

>> You don't have the coats to do this.

>> I even have a coat on this.

>> Time out. So you can't go see Mona, but

you can go bar hop.

>> The to loco was a block away. She was in

New Brunswick. That's was once you in

the car, you were in the car. [laughter]

>> To loco crazy.

>> Why you didn't answer flip? I didn't

hear the question cuz I thought

>> you heard what I said.

>> I really didn't, bro.

>> What time did you get back in the house?

>> Oh yeah, I didn't hear you. I'm sorry.

>> Oh yeah, you outside.

>> No, everything good, man. This video is

great. HYPE IS GREAT. WE ALL GO THROUGH

THE SAME TYPE OF [ __ ] AT THE SAME TIME.

[laughter] EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING I

>> NO, WE DO. NO, WE DON'T. WE DO. WE GET

TRICKY when you start doing that content

[ __ ] [laughter]

>> You bought hot. YOU WAS YOU AIN'T WANT

TO LEAVE THE HOUSE BEFORE, [ __ ]

>> I hate leaving the house, but I I had

friends in town. We went to work out. We

just end up invite them over. You could

have just invite them over

>> cuz my my wife had her girlfriends over

>> and you have the whole gym. There you

go. What?

>> That's even better.

>> Your friends get with my friends and we

can be friends. [laughter] Uh, did he

reference a side? I decided that

How'd that work out for him? [laughter]

>> That was a good one.

>> That was a good one.

>> That was good. That was I I needed some

time and space. You know what I'm

saying? You need time and space for your

significant just to clear your mind,

right? Clear your thoughts. I know what

that is. Yeah, exactly. You don't know

what time and space is. [laughter]

We know how you use it.

>> Love our space.

>> I'M GOING DOWN TO THE BASEMENT. NO ONE

COMES DOWN HERE. THIS TRUCK OUT WITH US

ON FRIDAY NIGHT though for A MINUTE. HE

WHAT? YEAH. OH, YOU [ __ ] ASS [ __ ]

[laughter] YOU GOT THE HOUSE, TOO.

>> I DIDN'T.

>> HUH? NO.

>> When light-skinned [ __ ] pop up wearing

[laughter] ALL THIS. WELL,

>> LOOK. I WAS THERE. I WENT, the fella

said, "Yo, let's go across the street

and get a drink." I said, "I don't

drink." They said, "Well, [ __ ] come

get a ginger for your birthday."

>> Yeah. Ginger beer. He went across the

street and got a drink.

>> How you feel? Show an hour after we did.

I'm like, "Nigga, it's across the

street." [laughter]

>> An hour. Yo, [ __ ] just

>> It was a solid 4 hours.

>> It was at least 45 minutes,

>> right? I was like, "How did he get lost?

Ice melted in my

>> He had a phone call. Yo, the pie just

lying. [laughter]

>> Yo, the eyes have rubbed OFF ON

>> HOW DO YOU FEEL, [ __ ]

>> I'm good, [ __ ] What you mean?

50,

>> man. You was looking spry, though. You

was in there looking. I

>> was looking spry. This [ __ ] trying to

wear the You know, I see I see you.

>> He had his all black on. I see. Yeah,

he's looking fresh.

>> Yeah, but it's good to hang out with

you man.

>> We got the toasting for his birthday.

>> He held up the orange pills while we

held up the the drinks.

>> It was too cold. Sorry, y'all. No, we

was like 10 minutes. No, we wasn't.

That's [laughter] his point. That is my

point. WE WERE THERE FOR A LONG TIME.

>> We had two trays of [laughter]

THREE TRAYS OF NACHOS before this

[ __ ] got here.

>> And we love you, gang.

>> Oh, man. Thank you.

>> Love us.

>> Sure.

>> Slap the [ __ ] out of you.

>> You need your ass whooped.

>> You can't You can't I'm glad to see

everybody's in a great mood.

>> Yeah, man.

>> What's up with you, man?

>> I'm good, man. I'm good.

>> How's your weekend?

>> It was reflective. You know how you Oh,

[laughter]

>> it's good. Yo, look at my man. Hey,

>> my [ __ ] right here.

>> Yo, you know

[snorts]

>> I love you, bro.

>> And I love you, too.

>> I love you, man. You when you calm and

mellow means, you know, you things was

just going smooth. You know, yeah, he

could he can't go outside, you know. He

can't go outside. [laughter]

>> Seriously, you ain't going outside.

>> He can't go outside, [ __ ]

>> Going to win.

>> Yeah, I stay right for a hot second.

That's what I said. Actually, we went

out and saw it. I thought you meant like

for the weekend.

>> We went and saw Marty Supreme. It was

actually really good.

>> Really?

>> Yeah.

>> Definitely recommend it.

>> Go check it out there.

>> Yeah. No, it was in the crew.

>> Joe, I saw you.

>> So, you posting your 2016 reflections,

you [ __ ] ass [ __ ] [laughter]

>> He fried me up last week on it and they

posted the exact same pictures.

>> 2016 # working. [laughter]

>> Now, you know what happened when I fried

you up about that 2016 post? I had so

much fun doing that. [laughter]

That's true.

>> I don't know why people think cuz I'm

frying them up about something that I

won't turn around and do it.

>> Oh, no. We expect that.

>> I do that [laughter] often.

>> But then when I type 2016 in my phone

and looked at the pictures,

>> [ __ ] was awesome, right?

>> I'm like, damn, I'm so old. I thought my

2013 was like 2016. 2016 was a It

started to come back to me.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> It started to come back. So I'm like,

you know what, man?

And then my phone started showing me how

some of my 2016 went.

And because I have a healthy respect for

my relationship and a lot of y'alls,

[laughter]

>> I just kept it cute.

>> Gave him a couple of tour photos,

me, my cousin,

my son. It was a lot of fun with y'all.

Yo, and y'all [ __ ] with that on

Instagram, but be clear.

There was another side to 2016

[laughter]

and I took all the pictures of it.

They all still in there. [laughter]

>> She deleted everything else, but

somehow that's still there. [laughter]

>> Yo, real rap. When I looked through the

2016 photos, the ones I didn't put in,

>> boy. [ __ ]

>> I had some [ __ ] going on in 2016. Yo, to

any man over 40, just go on your phone

or your little Apple if you got Apple

and just type 2016 in your photos.

>> Oh my lord.

>> And just spend like 15 minutes missing

your pass.

>> I don't miss it. I'm very happy with

where I am.

>> I don't miss it either. Shout out to the

Toro Loco. I uh [laughter]

>> Everything's great. Everything's fine at

home.

>> Oh man.

>> Flip, how you feel? You good?

>> I feel great.

>> What's popping, Flip?

>> I'm all right, man.

>> Miss you, man.

>> Miss y'all, too. What y'all did Friday

for my man is?

>> Just what he wanted. Talked.

>> Exactly what he wanted. Talked. [ __ ]

ass [ __ ] Yo,

>> it's his favorite pastime.

>> What do I got to do with that,

>> [ __ ] Cuz come on, bro. It's your

birthday. You should have asked for

something.

>> I don't have nothing to do with that,

bro.

>> I'mma celebrate you, bro.

>> Thank you, brother. Thank you. You're

welcome.

>> You saw Danny this weekend?

>> I did not.

>> All right, good.

>> What that got to do with you?

>> Just nothing at all, man. I'm just

trying to have a good time. [laughter]

>> I'm just trying to have a smooth

>> How many you got? A lot.

>> How many what?

>> You got a lot of calls and stuff like

that.

>> That's true.

>> We got yours.

>> I appreciate You guys, you guys know we

chill out, [ __ ]

>> Okay, good. I'm just

>> I'm just saying we chill out.

>> I'm saying we 30 minutes in.

>> Yeah, get [laughter] your [ __ ] We

ready. We ready. I'm sorry. We ready.

Let's get it.

>> Oh my god.

>> Nah, I don't got nothing. Are we ready?

Let's get it. God, man.

>> Let's get to it, baby.

>> Oh, I don't want to smoke with you, man.

>> Please. I know you dropping.

>> Smoke is already in the air. Yo,

>> I see you dropping your tracks.

>> Smoke is already in the air, gang.

>> That was dope. Soon as dudes become a

rapper, they start looking for rap beef

immediately.

I'm not your rap beef dog

can't attach the movie to the [ __ ]

YOUR

DADDY.

What's that?

Who is that?

>> Pussing. Pussing. Pussing. [ __ ]

>> All right. Uh, what episode is this? 96.

Flip. Flip. Flip. Big Flip is in the

building. Welcome to episode 896 of the

Joe Button podcast brought to you by

Fueled by Powered by Price Pitch Price

Pitch Gang. I'm your humble, gracious,

grateful, extremely happy to be here.

Host Joe Button here with some very

important people in my life. To my

right, Queens get the money. Queens Flip

is in the building. Next to him, our

good brother Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in

the building. Next to him, Big is Mr.

Thousand Doors and Up is here. Next to

him, the freeziest of them all, Alo

Down. Stop playing with him. Big Ice is

in the building next to him. Elmyra's

finest Parks is here. Po is here. Cory

is here. Erikson is here. Tanner Savani

here by remote. Last but certainly not

least, each and every one of you guys is

here. What's popping y'all?

>> Man, what's popping gang? Wake it up in

here. Get the energy high in here.

Please wake it up in here.

>> What's up, New York? I hate [ __ ] New.

Can I tell you I hate Newark?

>> Oh [ __ ] That's a That's a start.

>> This weekend and I don't know if I

handled this wrong.

>> Yo, dog. I'll be keeping them off you.

>> Yeah, you gotta go through North. Let

the man tell you.

>> I don't have to go through north.

>> Oh, good. Keep through Moody East

handover.

>> All right. Well, go ahead, [laughter]

>> [ __ ] Man, I So, I'm taking my

mother-in-law to church. Every Sunday I

take my mother-in-law to church, right?

>> I drop her and then I wait for her.

>> Damn. This [ __ ]

>> what?

>> He worked more. God damn. Get a break,

[laughter] [ __ ]

>> I take your grandmother the

mother-in-law to church. Then

>> you wait for

>> what? I leave her.

>> Go ahead.

>> Nah, [laughter] I'm good. Oh, you said

the call.

>> YEAH. YEAH. I don't go to church. Yeah.

It's a black church.

>> No.

>> Oh, okay.

>> Well, it's it's a it's a mixed. It's

like uh black people and and some um uh

uh Spanish speakers.

>> It's a Catholic church in in Newark. So,

it's they they they punctual

>> anyway. That ain't the point, right?

Yeah. Yeah. They super punctual. You get

that 11 yard out of 12. So, I went to

get a pizza

>> cuz I was hungry and I went to get a

little bit of food. So, I go to the the

uh the the Blaze Pizza on on Broad

Street

>> and I know the people in there cuz I go

there pretty regularly, you know? So, I

pull up. I'm there about 10 minutes

early for my food cuz I ordered it

through the app. And I'm waiting and

then suddenly I see two brothers come in

who frankly didn't look like they should

be in Blaze Pizza.

>> What What was that mean?

>> Um they didn't look like they were there

to buy and they didn't look like

employees. I know you rolling your eyes,

but some I know we shouldn't make

judgments about each other.

>> You sure?

>> But I waited.

>> Okay, Tim.

>> Now, you a pro in a judgment game if

you're doing that in a pizza place.

>> Well,

>> this guy look like he should have

ordered pizza.

>> Blaze pizza at

>> that

>> at 11:30 in the morning. So I So, so I

don't go in to get my pizza and I have

my son with me. He's in he's in the

child seat. So So I wait to do

>> he could have took them.

>> Well, so I wait I wait like a couple

minutes and then they make a right and

I'm like they don't work here and they

didn't wait get in line. I said, "I

think they're stealing my pizza." Now, I

could be wrong, but this is just what

came to my mind. About 30 seconds later,

they come, they go out the store holding

a pizza that looked mysteriously like my

large plain tomato pie.

>> How could you tell in a box?

>> You need some sleep.

>> Why is this crazy?

>> Yes.

>> Yes. So far,

>> it's 11:30 in the morning. These [ __ ]

did not have A APP. NOTHING ABOUT THEIR

attire [laughter]

or the seven bags they had on them said

that they know how to use a app or have

the ability to pay through a app.

>> It's crazy talking.

>> So I'm like I think they have my pizza.

>> So I get out the car. Not cuz of that.

Cuz they're going now. I can go get my

food.

>> They left them. I wasn't scared but I'm

[laughter]

of course

>> before I go out get my son out the car.

And before I can even get to the door,

the two girls who work there are at the

door of the joint. And I before I they

were looking left and right said, "Did

he just steal my pizza?" They said,

"Yeah."

So then and this girl had to be from New

York.

>> She said he went that way.

>> So okay.

>> And you said you go that way back to the

kitchen.

>> This is where the wrong instincts kick

in. This is where Joe might have been

right. One time on the on the phone. You

told me that

>> I might overreact to things.

>> So my first instinct kicked in. So I

start going up the street. No.

>> Oh my.

>> Cuz he has my pizza.

>> YOU CAN'T FIGHT for a pizza.

>> I DIDN'T WANT TO FIGHT FOR A PIZZA. I

JUST HE HAD MY PIZZA.

>> [ __ ] would have turned you into

mozzarella.

Been tossing you off.

>> So I get to THE CORNER AND THERE'S LIKE

FIVE POLICE officers there and AND AND

THEY SAW WHAT THEY THEY CLEARLY SAW YOU

HAD A PIZZA CUZ THEY SAID, "YO, he went

that way." And at that point it hit me

like I'm not following no police

directions. I go back to the store and

say, "Well, you know, since my pizza was

stolen, can I have another one?" And she

said, "Well, you couldn't catch him."

And I said, "Well, that's not my job.

>> I just ordered a pizza. I just want my

pizza. And then I got my pizza. But that

whole ordeal reminded me told me that I

needed to get a little bit of therapy.

>> Yeah.

>> Um maybe some anger management.

>> They needed the pizza more than you.

>> Yeah. YEAH.

>> I DIDN'T CARE. That's what I'm saying.

>> It was freezing, too. Like they want

pizza man.

>> But my first instinct was to go after

when I thought it was mine. And that's

the [ __ ] that I got to work through.

>> I agree with you.

>> But that only happens no nowhere else

but a New York Pizzeria where they tell

me to go catch the ball. That's all I'm

saying.

>> Got you.

>> Yep. That's all. You're welcome.

I [laughter] feel like every week I

learn like a few of y'all are ghetto

than I thought.

>> Like just buy another pizza, man.

>> No, let them have it. Evidently, they

need the [ __ ]

>> They'll make you a new pizza. Their

pizza would have

>> I am not doing this with with Mark. Tell

me about the internet argument.

[laughter]

>> Let tell me about the internet argument

that a few of you are attempting to

bring to real life. Let's do it.

>> It's a good old MC MC ranking.

>> Oh, okay. We'll start with this. Let's

do it.

>> Yeah, let's do it.

>> I mean,

you're right. It ain't too much going

on. Come on.

>> So, somebody tell me about this.

>> The the the trending has been J the kids

verse comment.

>> Where did this come from?

>> I don't know. That's what I was

>> The internet.

>> The internet.

>> The internet. There was a reason why it

came up on people's lists, but I don't

it took a life of his own and then it

didn't was no longer about lists or the

origin of it. It just became about

>> Jakus versus comment. Who's higher on

the alltime MC list? And people had

strong feelings on each side. And I

think it's a crazy argument because

there's only one right answer

>> and that is

>> I think we all know on the count of

three we can all just say it. One, two,

three.

>> Jakus.

>> I love how you anticipate.

>> I [laughter] was just listening to your

[ __ ]

>> Lay out the arguments here. Let me

>> Here's the argument. These are two names

that I would have never even thought to

pair up pair or

>> so if I'm like cuz when we start ranking

all time, everybody's in the mix, right?

So the different genres, different

styles, all that. But if we rank at all

time, common to me is higher than Jada

Kissus. It's not a tough argument.

Here's the argument for me.

>> Well, where where do both of them sit on

your alltime list? Start. Start. Give me

that.

>> Neither is in my top 10,

but anywhere under that, I wouldn't

fight nobody for it. On my list, they're

probably around somewhere between 15 and

20.

>> Both.

>> So, they're about five spots apart.

>> Yeah. The most?

>> Yeah. The most.

>> I think they're both in the 20s

regardless for me.

>> Okay. Yeah, that's probably more if I

thought about it more now with more

rappers, but I'm just saying they're

they're definitely top 25. I think

everybody would agree with that,

>> but and they're toward the bottom half

of my top 25, but I think Common is a

very strong case of being above JD Kiss.

>> Uh, one, it's if you talk about

>> uh classic albums, which I do think

should matter.

>> Yeah. Discography albumwise,

>> it's not even close.

>> It's not close.

>> It's not even close.

>> Solos.

>> Solo.

>> Yeah. Common has three

indisputable to me classic albums.

But at least two, right? Resurrection

literally changed the way hip-hop people

thought about hip-hop. It marked a major

turn in hip-hop for classic. I'm with

you on that.

>> You're all about to be me to death, huh?

>> B is to me is is one of the

>> I just knew it was coming. B is

incredible.

>> B is incredible.

>> I'm agreeing with you guys on

Resurrection for sure and be is great.

>> Those are two those are both I know

y'all hate mics, but those are the five

mic albums for me. And then for me like

water for chocolate for chocolate which

is amazing which album one of my

favorite albums of all time and finding

forever one wasn't weak. It just wasn't

beat.

>> Yeah that's four.

>> I don't know what's on that one.

>> You when you hear it you know you would

know

>> which one is finding forever.

>> It was one right after

knock it off.

>> Knock it off.

>> It wasn't B but it was still

>> I'm not doing this with y'all.

>> Then then you got the you got the battle

resume right? He was because when you

think about his battle versus Ice Cube.

This battle for his Ice Cube was

important. It was important to hip-hop.

I mean, Minister Farrakhan intervened. I

mean, it wasn't just a small battle. It

was a huge battle that affected black

culture, hip-hop culture again. And you

[clears throat] can make the case he

won. You might not say think that. Some

people say, "No, Vaseline, some say

they're bitching you." Whatever. It was

a major battle. I'm not going to put the

Drake battle as a major battle. Although

he held his own, he's battle tested.

>> So, he was tough. Yeah.

>> Yeah. And and he's been in a he's he's

had a great features, great possibility.

>> Yeah. Slow down before you rush to the

features. So on the battle front,

>> he did that versus Ice Cube. One of the

greatest battles of all time

>> against Ice Cube, right? One of the

greatest rappers of all time.

>> One man.

>> I mean, you could say against Yeah,

sure.

>> Just one person, right?

>> Uh-huh.

>> Mark, you need some sleep. I'm telling

you, [laughter] you spilling coffee all

over yourself. You got the jitters.

>> Was hot.

>> This [ __ ] was hot. And the Drake, if you

want to count the Drake battle, that

would have to be a loss, right?

>> No.

>> Yeah, he lost that. Canada Dry. You

think he lost that?

>> Yeah, he lost. He lost it.

>> He lost that mark. So, all right. So,

>> Sweet was fire. It wasn't like a

blowout.

>> I'm not saying it was, but he lost that

one, right? All right. So, go ahead to

the future.

>> Uh, you think about some of the greatest

posy cuts of all time like Respiration.

>> Oh, no. Stop. This is where he loses

like [laughter]

let him go. [laughter]

>> Respiration is amazing, but please

I think every vers of Restoration was

dope, but I'll take Respiration off. My

point is he's been in multiple moments

of hip hop. He's lasted through the '9s.

>> Oh, he left. He left. He left.

[laughter]

The only person S and [ __ ] up. If the

only PERSON ON MY SIDE is saying don't

go res [laughter]

>> I love that record but features he's not

winning against Jakus.

>> No I'm not saying he's winning against

Jakus on features. I'm saying I'm

talking about this comm's resume. Take

Jissus off the table for a second. I'm

saying he's he's battle tested elite

albums been on classic songs great

features has one has one of maybe the

greatest hip-hop love song of all time

to light. So you talking about you

talking about classic tracks too. I mean

also I used to love her. They make

movies after that [ __ ] Using hip-hop as

a metaphor for woman comes from comedy.

So his long-lasting impact on hip hop is

also cemented. I And he's part of the

Soul Aquarians, which is one of the

greatest hip-hop collectors of all time.

>> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I mean, you're

>> I'm just saying I [laughter] think I

think Thomas is a hip-hop legend and I

think

Soulquaria [laughter]

>> and he's in cocaine 80s.

>> Fire. But he is in cocaine 80s.

Soulquarius. I love music. I thought one

of the greatest hip-hop collectors ever.

What' you say Parks?

>> I love Soul Aquarius but I'm not putting

them in one of the greatest hip. And I

might shout out to Quest Love is his

birthday today. But

>> happy birthday.

>> Happy birthday Quest Love

>> and rest in peace dealer.

>> But I'm not doing that. And [ __ ]

>> Yeah.

>> Damn. These are all the people yall

saying are part of the greatest hip

music collective, right? D'Angelo.

>> There's just not enough uh

>> do work.

>> There's not enough work.

>> There's not enough work.

>> There's only like three or four maybe

tops albums. I don't want to go down

this rabbit hole, but we always say they

ain't got enough work when we don't want

to choose them because when we get to

Biggie, all of a sudden he's he's in

goat conversation.

>> I stay in the same I I say the same

thing. He's in that same conversation.

>> Same thing with Jimmy Hendricks. I mean,

there's people who are goated without a

whole lot of material. But let's argue.

>> Yeah, but Biggiey's short list of

material is way bigger than Soulquarius

respectfully cuz I love Soulquar. Unless

you talk about Erica Badu's mom's gun.

Unless you talk about unless you talk

about D'Angelo. Unless I mean you got to

throw in Circus Electric or whatever

that [ __ ] was too. So

>> which I think

>> Don't do it. Don't do IT ON YOUR SIDE.

[laughter]

>> I WILL DIE ALONE.

>> HE WILL.

>> ELECTRIC Circus was ahead of his time.

That's all of you now. Where's the

>> once we get to Electric Circus?

>> I'm not I'm not repping Electric Circus,

but it wasn't a terrible album. That's

all I'm saying.

>> It wasn't good.

>> Let's do it now. I bet you

>> I have recently actually that and the uh

Comet has a pretty interesting

discoraphy in that he has multiple

albums produced by No ID. He has an

album produced by Pete Rock. He has an

album produced by uh Kanye. He has an

album produced by the Neptunes. The

Neptune one was horrible.

>> Beyond horrible. I don't know what the

[ __ ] they was thinking on that [ __ ]

>> After find I'm like that's the end of

his run for me.

>> Yeah. That's why it's cheating for me to

be in these cuz my views are not my

views are unique to me and me. What

y'all talking about is is one of the

reasons that I probably am not going to

rank common above Jedakus is Common wins

the relationships battle by far. And

that matter,

>> huh?

>> Common wins was the corporate

relationships, but I think Jedakus,

everyone loves Jedakus.

>> Not what I'm saying.

>> No, I know what you're talking about.

>> Yeah, it's different.

>> Not what I'm saying.

>> Media darling [ __ ]

>> Yes.

>> I'm saying

>> I'm thinking ignorant.

>> I'm saying Jedakus came in on a on a

[ __ ] deal. He did on a [ __ ] deal. Had to

fight to get off that deal. Then paid to

get to be a part of his next run, which

was the Rough Riders run. That's when

we've got the real real music.

>> And then from there, he's just been him

coasting

>> like relying on his skill set and what

other MC's think of him. There's been no

comment. And a large part of and he wins

the longevity battle, but a large part

of that is his relationships and his

label situations. I know that the masses

will never count that stuff.

>> I think that's a fair point.

>> The masses will never, but

>> yeah, come on.

>> But that to me, that's just why Common

is ranked high.

>> I was on Def Jam when Common B came out.

>> And we [snorts] know what time it was

with getting one Kanye beat at that

time.

>> Yeah. So for him to pop up with a album

>> and it be fire and Kanye's piping

[ __ ] hot, he was out of here. Colin

was gone, man. And again, one of the

greatest MC's, so please don't get but

I'm just not sure if I personally, but

I'm from New York, too. Like I'm I'm

sure

>> Jedakus features Jedakus appears on more

songs that are important to my hip-hop

lineage

>> than Comet.

>> Yeah. the B the banger list common

loses.

>> Yes.

>> Like the bangers that Jedica is on is

it's not even close.

>> But I think if if I had to

if you left me with five common songs

and five Jedus songs,

>> right?

Or three or two or one or whatever. For

me, the common ones are a little more

important. Like like to me there are

very few songs in in hip-hop that are

more important than The Light. There are

very few songs important. I used to love

her. I mean I'm just going that would be

number one. They're not [laughter] not

in that order. I used to love her to me

is top top top top. The light for me is

the hip-hop's greatest love song along

with maybe like Renee and a couple other

but very very small. All of that [ __ ] is

100 slots behind Benjamin's

>> and

>> I'm not Yeah, I don't

>> all that [ __ ] about that.

>> The light is 100 slots behind Benjamin.

>> You can't put the Benjamins in the same

conversation.

>> That's just different genres to me.

>> That's a posi cut with

>> I think they're both puff.

>> I think they're both different genres.

>> And I think that's fair. And I think

that's why

>> that's why I would have never thought to

even to do this. It's interesting

headto-head. Yeah.

>> And I think they're very close, by the

way. I think they're within two or

three. I think Red Man's probably in

that same kind of stratosphere.

>> Yes. But I got them both above Red Man,

>> but not by much.

>> Okay.

>> Again, I don't think you're wrong if you

have Red Man higher. I think they're all

in the same conversation. There's not a

wrong answer. But I haven't heard what's

hell no, man. I'm from New Jersey. I

can't sit here. [laughter] I can't

say.

>> There's no way I can sit here quietly

and let y'all say don't say y'all.

>> Even if y'all are right. Even if y'all

are right, cuz I'm not going to argue

it. But I'm from New Jersey. I can't let

y'all do that for red man. No way.

>> No, y'all.

>> You don't think common is better than

red man, my [ __ ]

>> All right. So, there's also a different

conversation.

>> And even if you say common is better

than red man. I'm just not going to do

that while sitting in [laughter]

hold.

I didn't say

y'all changed the conversation. I didn't

say better.

>> Sure.

>> When we when we talk about great like on

MC list, we're not we're not talking

about skill. We're not talking about

who's a better rapper. We're talking

about to me greater involves the whole

career.

>> The whole collective.

>> Let me ask you, let me ask you this.

>> I think Red Band comment. Sorry to

interrupt. I think that that's a pretty

fun argument because they both went into

film and you know the later part of

their careers

>> and they're both in the same peer group

and the same era.

>> Yeah, it's the same era.

>> They both didn't go into film. And I was

about to ask that question. If you pull

Common's filmography with IMDb, whatever

you want to call it, away from this,

Common's public persona definitely

diminishes by some.

>> For sure. Yeah.

>> Okay. So, it's it's kind of unfair at

that point.

>> But that's I'm going I'm going just by

the music. A lot of people can't you

can't separate what Come in the sphere

versus what he's done in the music.

[ __ ] was in John Wick, bro.

>> Like that [ __ ] is has

>> a [ __ ] on his on his resume.

>> I'm with you. And that's the same

argument for L. We can say about LL,

Latifah, all the people who are great

anyway. We can't separate them, but I

still want to be able to have them high

on the great list. But what is the J?

>> They have common high and most deaf.

>> Yes.

>> Yes. But but but most is a better much

to me a better rapper, a better MC, but

just when we talk about body of work and

impact and all the other things we just

talked about, as much as I love Most

Deaf when he's rapping, it's just not

enough of it.

>> There's not enough material.

>> If a track comes on, if a track if a

track comes on and common and kiss are

on the track,

>> who who does what? Depends on who what

track it is.

>> No. No, it don't. It does a little bit.

It does. Absolutely does. Ain't going to

just get smoked though. I ain't going to

get smoked.

>> I mean, you think he did a restoration,

but like

>> No, he didn't get smoking restoration.

That was what I was saying.

>> I was just So, don't put posy cuts in

this conversation cuz Benjamins exists

and major look remix exist. There's too

much reservoir.

Hold up.

>> Hold up you guys cuz I'm taking this

call.

>> Hello.

>> What up, bro?

>> All right. There we go. I'm live on air,

so don't say anything that'll get either

one of us in trouble. Sean Stark, man,

how you doing, man? [laughter]

>> I'm good, man. Happy New Year to all

y'all man.

>> Happy New Year.

>> Happy New Year, bro. Happy New Year. We

were in the middle of a spirited hiphop

uh hiphop discussion, but I did want to

answer your call because uh I need a lot

of tickets to [laughter] that that Boys

to M New Edition [ __ ] I'm not going to

lie to you. My mom won eight. I need

about nine. So, this is more tickets

than I have ever asked for in my life.

And I'm going to buy some, but I'm still

going to come to you for some, too.

[laughter]

>> Okay. That's a lot to unpack. Um,

[laughter]

uh, I'm assuming I'm I I heard that you

guys had a conversation and I want to

say that Parks mentioned about uh the

post that I I I I put up on my page.

>> Indeed.

uh know that these tickets that you're

asking for, you know, I have to pay for

>> Oh, no. I'll pay for them. We're

comfortable with that. I'll pay for

them. [laughter]

>> I I'll pay for mine.

>> Okay. So, realistically, how many

tickets do you really need?

>> Oh, I don't know. I'm talking [ __ ] Uh

Sean, I'll figure it out in real life

and text you in real life [laughter]

about it.

>> Okay.

>> But are are you all right?

>> I'm good, man. I I didn't know you

called. I was probably right in the

middle of rehearsal when you called me.

>> Oh, okay. Cool. Cool. Y'all are kicking

ass. But you're kicking ass on that

podcast.

>> Podcast is great.

>> Thank you, brother. I appreciate it. And

and and Mark, man, thank you for the for

the shout. Thank all thank all y'all,

man. For real, though. Like, I I

appreciate you guys even mentioning it,

man, on y'all big big big platform. I I

it helps a lot. So, I I I thank y'all so

much for that, man.

>> Anytime. Anytime. And um and yo Joe, I

if I'm if I'm in town, I I would love to

stop by if you guys are filming around

the time that

>> Oh, yeah.

>> Well, I would absolutely love that. I

would absolutely love that.

>> I would love to pull up. Say say hello

to the folks.

>> So, please please do. My my door is

always open. Please.

>> I I appreciate you. But yeah, but but

hit me later, man. and we'll we'll talk

about, you know, tickets and everything

and and anybody else that's, you know,

on the team that wants to, you know, uh,

pull up.

>> Yeah, it's probably just going to be me.

[laughter]

>> It's probably just going to be me. I'll

text you, Sean. Thank you.

[laughter] Terrible.

>> All right, Sean. Your man.

>> All right, y'all. Love, man. Take care.

[laughter]

>> Yeah, you terrible.

>> Yeah, bro. Y'all don't [ __ ] with that

[ __ ] right?

>> Shut up.

>> I'm definitely going to that one.

>> I am there. Got my tickets two months

ago. [laughter]

>> Y'all lying. Man, you vicious, bro.

>> Give me the first two sentences on

Benjamin.

That's what I mean about you. Yo, you're

[laughter] not See, that's what I mean.

Look, stuck them. Stumped them real. You

still talking. I

>> I got to just

>> Just give me the first two on Bend.

>> Give me the chorus. The Four Seasons,

you [ __ ] ass [ __ ] [laughter]

>> Reverse. But you didn't answer mine.

>> I'm trying TO REVERSE.

>> I HEAR IT. I'MMA SAY IT.

>> I reverse the four.

[laughter]

That's what [ __ ] do.

[laughter]

>> That's it, you [ __ ]

>> Oh, man. All right. Uh, back to

>> What is I need to hear the Jakus

argument BECAUSE I WANT ALL I'M GETTING

IS I'm going just throw I'm going just

throw a few jabs out.

>> Oh, wait. I thought I started that

already.

>> No. You think you think the You think

the common ice cube battle was bigger

for hip hop and than Jay and Beans?

>> Kiss and beans.

>> Yes.

>> Uh, no.

>> Yeah, I think so.

>> Hell no.

>> I think it's it's it's apples and

oranges.

>> It is. It's apples and oranges.

>> The best battles.

>> That was the best battle ever.

>> What

>> to me? Well, one of the best battles

ever.

>> Which one? Kiss.

>> Kiss be

win that.

>> And this is the problem. This is why

they don't. This is why they're not

paired. Well, I'm not asking. Nobody

near Ice Cube battle was bigger in

commercialized [ __ ] The Kiss, but the

Kiss and Jada battle was some

underground. Let's get these lyrics out.

>> I think that's fair [ __ ] If you saying

again, if you say I wouldn't die on the

and I would say Comm's battle was

bigger, but I also think

>> I'm not I don't think Jedus won that

battle.

>> It don't matter. It was a tie.

>> But you saying

like Yeah. He didn't lose. He

>> didn't lose. I just

>> cuz you're from Philly.

>> I'm from Philly. So I'll take that as a

bias. Just like y'all from New York.

>> That's part of why that battle was so

great because who knows who won.

>> No, I didn't give a like it ain't just

us. There's a lot of [ __ ]

outside of both of these cities that'll

say, "Damn, I really can't call that

one."

>> Yeah, it's it's it's

>> one some years I say kids, some years I

say beans. I change my mind all the

time. [laughter]

>> Every day I say beans.

>> Of course you would.

>> See, but still all y'all still doing is

is chipping away at the

>> common cube to me was so big because was

already dissing them [ __ ] on. I used

to love her so

>> Yeah. Well, sort of. I think

Yeah. Who won that battle?

You think? Yeah, a little bit.

>> I don't think he was dissing the West

Coast. I don't think that was his

intention.

>> Yo, this is one of my favorite hip-hop

songs of all time. If I heard that, what

he was saying, that was a West Coast

disc.

>> It was thousand%.

>> A thousand%.

>> I get what you say. I know. I know why

people say that.

>> Now she popping tops and hitting

switches. Now she's a gangster hanging

with G. I think he was I don't think

that was about

>> I don't think that's a myth at all.

>> I don't think so either. I think he's

more just talking about the the twists

and turns of hip-hop.

He might not like all them, but I don't

think he was saying like [ __ ] the

Westside Connection, which is basically

how they took it. I don't think he was

saying [ __ ] Ice Cube.

>> No, he said hip hop used to be this pure

beautiful uh to you

went over there and now that [ __ ] is

cheap selling [ __ ] It's it's whack.

It's

>> But he said that about everybody. He

said y'all slamming and taking it to the

sewer. That wasn't about the West Coast.

was about. I mean, I'm just saying

there's a there's a

>> that that's a metaphor.

>> So,

>> one one was a whole verse. It was a

whole story in the song.

>> I'm with you. I I saw it as a conscious

hip hop head saying it's not pure no

more and everywhere and everywhere but

this pure thing. Pure. Why is it not

pure?

>> Well, not pure. Why though?

>> Because of commercialization. Cuz all

the things he's talking about. I'm just

saying I don't think he was trying to

diss West Coast rapper. I get why it's

pure and now you over here and you not

pure.

>> I don't think he thinks it's pure over

here either. That's I don't think he

thought the East Coast kept it pure.

That's what I'm I think he's I think

it's an elitist hip-hop position more

than it is an anti-W coast position.

>> Well, after that song, I just don't

think it's such a big coincidence that

they started beefing.

>> No, that's what they took it personally.

>> They took it personally. [laughter] If

you from the West Coast rapper like

that,

>> I'm saying if I was from the West, I

would have took that person. I get that.

I I ain't mad at that. But that made a

great to me that was to me that is one

of hip- hop's greatest battles. Maybe

the best. You know, certainly top three

for me.

>> Yeah. That was the [ __ ] in you was a

shock. It was like, oh [ __ ] coming

>> and that's part of it too is people

didn't know Common could do that.

>> Yeah. And they because they forgot about

can I borrow a dollar. They forgot about

the original comment.

>> We didn't listen to that.

>> The album wasn't great. But [laughter]

the persona was great and then yeah, you

remember you was in the Jeep then.

[laughter]

>> But tell me just before we wrap this.

Can somebody tell me why JD make the

case for JD? Not just the case of guest

>> the locks. Very simple. The locks the

guest features the uh the his discoraphy

ain't bad. It ain't ch. You just don't

really have the classic album like

that's all he's miss.

>> Yeah. has him wiped down on the albums.

>> Yeah, that's it.

>> And you think everything else Jed has

got him wiped down

>> personally? Yes.

>> Or wiped down?

>> I'm not going to say wiped down.

>> It's higher. He's higher.

>> I have Jakus ranked higher on my alltime

list. Fair enough.

>> You can just go to Jakus, you know,

whatever wherever you listen to your

music and just hit shuffle.

>> Yeah.

>> And it'll it'll answer the question for

you.

>> Yeah. And I think that uh back in the

height of verses, I was saying that I

don't I don't know if there's too many

people that can beat Jay Kiss in verses.

>> That also is true. He literally has

songs for any situation.

>> Anything.

>> Come on. I want to get to this other

argument we was about to have.

>> Oh, I was going to stay in the 20s

rappers cuz we got some new TI for me.

He's in my 20s. Uh, we got we got a new

record.

>> Speaking of verses, that's the only one

that can't be [ __ ] with.

>> Yeah.

>> So hard. It's a hard day.

[music]

>> God damn.

>> God damn this.

>> No, I never heard this.

>> It just came out.

>> It just came out. Just came out.

>> Fire when yesterday.

>> Yeah, yesterday. some [ __ ] like that

snippet came out and the next thing you

know the song came out the video of him

cutting his threads off, cut his braids

off and [ __ ] I put my

>> I put my thumb on the screen and scroll

if I see something that say Tia's

cutting his head when it comes with this

>> turn sound up.

>> [ __ ] was fire was fired from when your

girl was around.

>> [ __ ] this might work.

>> Yeah.

>> No, I [clears throat] just mean having

the sound up. [laughter]

>> I was too quick. Point made.

Yo, this [ __ ] fire, man.

>> This is amazing.

>> I can't wait to see.

>> This is nuts. Yo,

>> this is nuts. And he announced his new

album.

>> Yep.

>> Yeah. So,

>> I can't wait for it.

>> I thought he retired.

>> Well, [ __ ] all that.

>> What Park say? Don't nobody ever retire.

Only you.

>> And now he's saying this is my final

album.

>> Yeah, [ __ ] Yeah.

>> Let him know.

I don't [laughter] care who did this.

Who did that beat? For real. And I hope

he does a lot more of this one. I

>> hope he do the whole damn album.

>> Word.

>> Whoa. I don't hope he do the whole

album. I do. I mean, I love Tomb and and

the million people that he's worked

with, but he always has top flight

production. I just love his song so

much.

>> From the top, he won't pick up where we

stopped.

>> From the top.

>> No, that [ __ ] is

>> I wanted to hear from the top, but you

saying that made me feel like I

[laughter] need to hear.

>> He was kind He was kind of flowing on

the second verse.

>> I just really want to hear the drum drop

again.

That's ignorant.

>> That flow is [ __ ] amazing.

>> That's a pocket. It is amazing.

>> That's Vinc right there.

>> Yo, pause this.

>> Yo, [laughter] dog. What y'all saying is

true? But whatever he did to these

drums,

>> he's stupid.

>> These drums are doing a whole different

type of boogie. No, [ __ ] ain't got

these drums in they [laughter] in they

[ __ ] Triton.

It

>> ain't 2001. Logic or something.

[laughter] Hey, them ain't the Triton

drums. They actually might be. They

might be. Yo, don't

>> put their logic something. This [ __ ] is

go go go. [music]

>> Anybody buy that [ __ ]

>> This [ __ ] is incredible. Fire.

>> This is This is

>> This is absolutely incredible.

>> That's vintage TR right there, man.

>> Yeah, that's that's a reminder record

for everybody talking slick. And I know

y'all ain't seen Y'all ain't heard me

rap in a minute.

>> You see the comedy, you see all this

other [ __ ] This is what I do. Just in

case you forgot. Yo, I wouldn't be

surprised that [ __ ] put that comedy

show out just as to

>> get a little talk going.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Let me show you what was really I

really was working on the word.

>> That's that what you know the first time

I [ __ ] that's that.

>> Yeah, I know there's no such thing as a

hit anymore. But whatever the new word

is.

>> Yeah. Flames.

>> They was in the studio dancing. He was

in there saying we back.

>> Word.

>> Word.

>> And then Forel was like, "Yeah, let me

get in the boo quickly." [laughter]

>> God damn. I need to hear Shabuzzi and

Young Drow on this [ __ ]

>> Okay.

>> I need Young Dro on this. That's a Young

Dro. Oh, come on. Give me Young Dro.

>> That's crazy.

>> That [ __ ] is crazy.

>> That [ __ ] is amazing.

>> That's nice right there.

>> That's amazing. That was good to hear.

>> Absolutely.

>> I just said I was going to stay in the

house now. You [laughter] got to hear

that outside.

>> Yo, dog. The only reason I went out was

cuz a TI joint. I got to hear this

outside.

>> I got a Florida trip in my future. I got

a Vegas trip in my future. And

unfortunately, I have an LA trip in my

future.

>> Why you say unfortunately?

>> I hate going out there.

>> It could be tough sometimes.

>> It's It's It's not I'm

>> I love it.

>> If there were ever people that were like

true to where they live at, like I'm so

New York that LA is just

>> It's hustle and bustle time. It's a

million meetings in three days. It's

crowded lobbies. It's It's waiters that

are waiting for their shot at fans.

Although in I think it was 2016 when we

did the [ __ ] crib in the hills with

zombie and all them that [ __ ] was that

was that gave me a different

>> view of LA.

>> That is better to me than doing like the

Mandrea the regular [ __ ] Like

>> I mean don't get it twisted. I've had a

lot of fun in LA. Some would say too

much fun. [laughter]

>> Especially the Valley. Shout out to the

Valley. Um

>> yeah, but I'll be back.

>> I'll be back.

>> Um that song was sick.

>> That [ __ ] is amazing.

>> You can't just pull that out. That went

on the board.

>> Oh [ __ ] Yes, it was right there.

[laughter] We got to pull that out.

>> God damn.

>> Made fun of the comedy [ __ ] You know

what I'm saying?

Right. Here's this.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> Here's a little something.

>> That's my second job.

>> Yeah. Right. My first one is this right

here. Laugh.

>> Laugh at that [ __ ]

>> Yeah. Don't retire.

>> You got any more heat like that in the

talk before we get [laughter] to the

next argument?

>> Uh, no. That was the only new music I

think I got through this weekend.

>> Okay. [clears throat] Now we got another

classic Joe and is argument. This time I

don't feel like it should take too long.

Me and you.

>> Yeah.

>> Oh, go ahead. Right.

>> I'm listening.

>> How did this come up? Me.

>> Ice was telling me he he was asking

everybody for their shoe size.

>> Oh, yeah.

>> Back in the sneaker game.

>> And I said, "Yo, I wear 11." But next to

my shoe size, tell them I might not rock

it.

>> Mhm.

>> I was just playing around with Freeze,

just making jokes. Yo, tell them I don't

know how you construct these deals, but

let them know I ain't just putting

anything on my foot. Don't promise the

joke but no guarantees. Yo, send jagged

edge promise. Nothing is promised when

you send my [ __ ] over there. So me and

Freeze are joking back and forth. And

then Freeze tells me who the person is

that's asking for the shoe sizes.

>> So I say to him, "Oh, this is someone

that I've worked with previously."

>> Sure.

>> Someone who has given me merchandise uh

previously. I tell him that prior

history is very important to me.

>> Someone's on the upswing now. Now that I

did go into that I said prior history is

important when deciding these things so

I may wear it now.

>> Future projections are important as

well.

>> Uh this was a good guy with good

product. I think that this person's

stock is headed up.

>> Count me in.

>> Mhm.

>> To which my good brother is chimed in

which who the [ __ ] was talking to him?

[laughter] But my good brother is chimed

in and am I lying so far?

>> Yeah, you are. You bought me in this.

You said yo tell them [ __ ] I'm not

ishinging them. I don't be doing X,

[laughter] Y, and Z.

>> Oh, I said that.

>> I said that.

>> That's what happened. And this [ __ ] Yo,

this [ __ ] a great absolutely right.

>> Framing the entire picture. But go

ahead.

>> I did say that. Yo, I'm not ishing them

who just put anything on their feet when

it come to me. Like, let them know it

might not go down.

>> Uh, but then you chimed in and said,

"Yo, that matters to you about someone's

stock going up."

>> This nigga's great. So, and I said,

>> "So, crowd crowd," he added a whole

bunch of [ __ ] that wasn't there to

make it sound great. He said, "Oh, yeah,

homeboy going going places,

>> count me in." And I said, "That's a

deciding factor on whether you want to

wear somebody's [ __ ] is if they going

places or not?" And then he said, "It's

a factor."

>> Yeah, it's it's a big factor. And and to

me, you said, "Yo, so it's not a factor

for you?" And I said, "No." And then I

said, "Yes, it is." fam. I've warned

people [ __ ] here that

forgive me. [laughter] Forgive me. I

KNOW THESE [ __ ] AIN'T GOING NOWHERE

AND I'M JUST BEING SUPPORTIVE OF THE

PEOPLE. That's not a deciding factor on

me or whether I'm going support

[laughter] somebody's [ __ ]

>> That's not so what you said was right.

>> What you just throw [laughter]

if I'm being supportive of somebody's

[ __ ] Yeah. Like they they trajectory

ain't a deciding factor on whether I

want to be supportive or not.

>> Just one question. What is the What is

the deciding factor for you?

>> If I like the [ __ ] [ __ ] send us

clothes all the time, my [ __ ] If I

don't like it, I'm not going to wear it.

But if I like your [ __ ] I'll wear your

[ __ ] And I don't need no Poliola. I

don't need none of that. If I [ __ ] with

you, I like your [ __ ]

>> I never never took taking a dollar, but

I wear your [ __ ] That's just payola in

other ways,

>> right?

>> And be clear, I wasn't just talking

about wearing [laughter] somebody's

[ __ ] Like I was saying if somebody is

going places then that factors and and

we have a previous history. Yes. That I

factored that in on if we if I'm [ __ ]

with you or not. Got you.

>> 100%.

>> Got you.

>> Not about just wearing the sneakers. And

then you said you don't do that. Right.

>> I say yeah. If he like it, he put it on.

Yeah.

>> No, but just on a broader sense cuz

that's real that's real narrow.

>> But there's a difference between liking

something and putting it on and liking

something putting it on in front of

three million people every week.

>> Yeah. If you just wear it cuz you like

the [ __ ] like that's cool. But like

>> y'all are narrowminding

my fight with is [ __ ] the clothes.

>> What I what I took that as the way I

took it, you were saying

>> [ __ ] the I know this person, I like

this, all of that.

>> If I know this person's going somewhere

and they got something that I might rock

with, oh yeah, that then I could I I'll

wagon.

>> I don't want to call it hitch, but I'll

[ __ ] with it.

>> That's what he's saying.

>> I'll [ __ ] with I'll [ __ ] with it.

>> Yeah. Is that kind of what you were

saying?

>> Yeah, I'm I may support it. This is

somebody that's given me [ __ ] in the

past. I rock with them. We've

established something and I believe them

to be going somewhere. I'm [ __ ] with

it. I'm [ __ ] with that.

>> Okay.

>> And if I like the [ __ ] more

importantly,

>> you got to like that's first, right?

Both got to like it.

>> Even if you don't like it, you going to

[ __ ] with it. You say

>> no. No, I'm not. No, I have to like it.

>> Listen, they both got to like it.

>> I have to like it.

>> Okay.

>> I got a lot of [ __ ] I don't like and it

don't it stays in the boxes

>> unless we get that.

>> That's true. People send me terrible

stuff. You trying to win on on clothes

and I'm trying to put you in the corner

of how do you establish your new

relationships and does that person's

stock factor in to how you [ __ ] with

them?

>> No.

>> No.

>> I'm answering you for the 14th time. No.

I got friends that are going nowhere.

>> Major money. I got friends that don't

have no money. I don't pick and choose

my friends based on what their

trajectory is.

>> He just loves

>> I got friends. I talk to [ __ ] saying

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. New people

on this part. I just think there's a

difference.

>> I have people I have new friends that

don't have no money. I have new friends

that I think, no disrespect to nobody

that are just plateaued and they got

>> that's where they going to be.

>> Yeah. So, not just money,

>> you can still be a quality individual

and that [ __ ] don't matter to me what

your trajectory is.

>> Oh, yeah. See, this is a different

conversation to me. We're talking about

friendship versus putting something off.

>> He said that. Okay.

>> I was never talking about friendship.

>> He He moved it into I'm never talking

about friendship. not friendship,

relationship. He moved into

relationships. He took it off of

clothing and all other [ __ ] and moved

into relationships. And I'm saying, "Yo,

I don't pick and choose the people that

I [ __ ] with based on what I think they

going to ascend to be."

>> Oh, me either.

>> Yeah.

>> I think that's fine.

>> And you do. I think where [laughter]

someone

>> Yes, that

see why I said

>> if we're not doing that, then what the

[ __ ] is the point of a new friendship?

Look, I'm going to tell you this.

quality people. He's quality people

without quality.

>> I think Joe said in the room of quality

people, he's going to pick the one.

>> This is why I said this is why I said I

didn't agree with that cuz you're a

person that will say like, "Yo,

>> you don't even know that conversation

could lead to XYZ. That means that that

person has some level that could take

you to another level." True.

>> So, they got some you see something in

having that relationship or

>> building that relationship with that

person.

>> Cool. Anyone can bring

>> That's not a deciding factor on whether

I [ __ ] with somebody or not

>> or support them.

>> Yeah, I think that's all very different

from wearing someone's clothes.

>> That's not a deciding factor on whether

I I I enter into a relationship.

>> All right. Then I had you pegged wrong.

Pause.

>> I bet you did. I had [laughter] you

wrong. I just seen how you act with like

I So, but I mean

[laughter] you had

this [ __ ]

see how he act. Say more.

>> Mark, you trying to give me the fire at

my brother. I'm asking for clarity for

the audience. We don't understand.

>> Uh

>> we don't have your relationship.

>> Look at here. Yo, [laughter]

>> I have seen I've seen I've seen is

communicate when

when

the girl looked like she worked on Wall

Street

and I've seen him communicate when the

girl looked like she worked on Canal.

>> Same with men. You think the

communication is different?

>> The twinkle in your eye. [laughter]

>> Everything. I think not just the

communication. I think everything is

>> your whole swag is different. You

[laughter] You ride with that?

>> No. You ride with that. I've seen No,

that that's why I'm breaking this couch

up soon, too. Anyway, don't worry about

it. This is one of the reasons this

couch is getting broke up. You riding

with that? I don't give a [ __ ] why he's

riding with

>> Flip ain't riding with that.

>> No, no, I'm with you, [ __ ] flipping a

wrong with you, [ __ ]

>> I don't I don't think so.

>> We just never stopped the car from

moving. [laughter]

>> Also, we just never stopped the car from

moving.

>> You know better.

>> All right. That was a quick fight. That

That was a quick fight.

>> Good dude. That's it.

>> [ __ ] you accept everyone.

>> That's why you have a lot of friends

around the [laughter] world.

>> Trying to paint me with the shitty

brush.

>> Everybody like bristles.

>> No, you just like talking.

>> There's not one bad thing I heard about

you outside.

>> I I would say that people love you. I've

heard bad things, but

>> Well, what type of bad things?

[laughter]

>> You heard that? I be shooting at [ __ ]

girls.

>> Oh, yeah. That's bad. A few [ __ ] I

heard about that, too. I heard about

that. I don't I don't consider

[laughter] that bad. That's just It's

bad. I don't I don't consider that bad.

Is it your friend? [laughter]

>> Was it your friend? Were you shooting at

your friend?

>> Whoever do that.

>> This one [ __ ] was telling me a story

for 20 minutes while cutting my I had to

tell him, "Yo, [ __ ] it. You good? I'm

good. I [laughter]

like I was like, I can't hear no more.

He's about to [ __ ] my head up talking.

>> It's like they introduce you to the girl

and then you you go and shoot at them

like what? How you doing is or they

shoot at you? This [ __ ] had to he was

like she was we were in the freezer

aisle. [laughter]

>> Yeah. Go ahead.

>> She was that [ __ ] was in tears.

>> You took the [ __ ] chicken to

supermarket.

>> He said she was in THE SUPERMARKET.

>> I'M LYING OR DUDE was lying.

>> YO DOG

>> I CALLED YOU WHEN YOU TELLING me

personalized segment on you did this.

>> He trying to move on from it. Is trying

to move on from it.

>> Yeah. I don't want to center on ish.

It's the Joe podcast. 8 million

listeners. That's a fact. That's a fact.

That's a fact.

>> But no, actually I I think you do have

>> But if we say that you're such a great

scholar, we could talk about it for a

long time. But this [ __ ] we can't talk

about.

>> I'm with you for all jokes aside, like

when I meet people who know is from all

walks of life, from the high-ups to the

to everyday people like

>> they have great things to say about him.

>> Yeah. He don't he don't got pics like

that.

>> Joe, do you think like in the next 5

years you'll make any friends and build

any relationship with somebody who's not

going anywhere?

>> No. [laughter]

Watch your [ __ ] mouth. Stop trying to

get rid of what I got. [laughter]

>> No, I don't think that's going to

happen.

>> He's a nice guy. I listen to this [ __ ]

>> Do you actively try to like get rid of

some of the people you've Do you look at

inventory and say, "You know what? Mike

ain't going nowhere."

>> I just got views on on on new new

friendships. I just got views on new

friendships.

>> Do people get grandfathered in though?

Like

>> we pass that point. I'm weary of all you

[ __ ] Okay.

>> I'm I'm I'm weary of them all.

>> Don't say that.

>> You got to give you got to give me

reason to not be weary. And part of that

is what's going on with you, what you

got going on. The same with women that

you had to learn that lesson. Start

[ __ ] with women that had something

going on.

Yeah. You got to look a little

>> from that side, which is how I heard it

first when I agree with you.

>> I get it. Like it's hard to build

relationships with people ain't going

nowhere when you going somewhere. And I

don't mean money or nothing like that. I

just mean life-wise.

>> Mhm.

>> Because that's a recipe for disaster and

trouble. It's one thing if you got them

people in your life from 20 years ago

cuz you kind of know them, you trust

them. But new people that ain't doing

[ __ ] don't usually it don't usually end

up

>> where does the conversation go after

after a while

>> cuz my whole life is

>> redundant. Yeah.

>> Most of my whole life is work. By the

time you get to Well, let me speak for

me at 45 heading into 46. Every all the

boxes in my life are are there. Got my

friend box, my work box, my relationship

box, kids, dad, like a new box, a new

person.

>> I feel you.

>> I'm cool.

>> Where where did they come from?

>> A new box. [clears throat]

>> And why? And why at a [ __ ] And and

what do you like to do? Like where you

come? You going to call me when you get

out of Sears?

[laughter]

>> Yo, I just picked up a microwave.

>> What the What the [ __ ] are you talking

about?

>> Don't do that, [ __ ] Stop that. I get

what you say, but stop. That's not nice.

>> That's not nice.

>> You're el leader show.

>> I'm not at all.

>> Are you trying? But

>> I'm not. I'm not. And

>> answer Mark's question, [ __ ] Are you

Are you trying to get rid of any

friends? Yeah,

>> I'm not trying to get rid of No, I love

my friend group just the way that it is.

>> I love them. I don't have any friend

that I sit and think about how to 86.

[laughter]

>> Do y'all?

>> Yes. Yes.

>> I got three on the bubble [laughter]