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know how it's going to go i know exactly how it's going to go and

no one is going to get killed but me because you're going to sound bougie

and above it what are they going to call you i mean these just be

calling anything bougie like we do need a clear to

clearly establish what is bougie and what's not but not for today but it's a

moving target Bougie is a moving target. It is. It is. I feel like I

have so much to say about the moving target. Yeah, but the people we talk

about are never bougie. Like Mona ain't bougie? No. No. Wait

a minute. Nobody's mistaking her for bougie. I am bougie. Wait. Bougie-to.

That's how you pretty say bougie. It's French. Ain't nothing bougie

about Mona. I'm bougie-to. Ice we know is not bougie. Nope. At all. Ice bougie

too. I'm not bougie. And it should be confused. He is whoever he around. So

if he around some bougie motherfuckers, he going to act bougie. And if he around

that buy vacuums from boosters, then yes. Yeah.

And even if you in support of buying from boosters, some should be off of

the booster list. I.E., A vacuum. How? How, y'all? I

agree. That's where the bougie part come in. Facts. Facts. What are you talking about?

Me and Corey never agree. A vacuum should be off the booster list when

you're between 40 and 50 years old. Why is that? Explain to me why. Because

I get boosting shit from the barbershop, right? I'm not walking down the street with

a vacuum cleaner back home. You know what I'm saying? You don't got to get

boosting shit from the barbershop. You drove to the barbershop, didn't you? Pull up. You

shouldn't be at 40. I don't get something boosted. When I did, that's where I

went. At 40 and 50, you should have all the utensils you need in your

home to clean it and maintain it. No, that's true. But if you

don't have a vacuum, you should not be calling your booster network. Stop. Shopping

around. Stop. Price matching on a vacuum. The problem with something like a vacuum cleaner

is you should pick the vacuum cleaner you want. The booster might not have the

vacuum cleaner. It'd be good booster. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Y'all don't know

what y'all talking about. Wait a minute. Not only do y'all not know what y'all

talking about, I feel like at times, like we have certain issues about a doctor,

we're going to let the doctor speak. We have an ex-booster in the building. Two.

Please, everybody, shut up. Two. So please, everybody, shut up. Number one. Bitch, you're talking

about 84 now. It don't matter.

Hustle the same. Number one, to assume that the person that's buying a vacuum off

the person selling a vacuum doesn't have a vacuum is silly. That's number one. Me,

I own a Roomba that vacuums on his own and mops on his own. I've

only been in my place for four or five months anyway, but the vacuum was

a gift for my hairstylist because she just moved. It was a housewarming gift. Sidebar,

if a motherfucker come parks with the Roomba that mops, because mine only sweeps, I'm

going to probably purchase that. I'm going to buy it. Sure. Even though I have

the Roomba that sweeps. The fact that I hate Big Corp and a little piece

of me hate capitalism, I love to buy stolen merchandise. I enjoy it. Okay. So

it's an act of defiance. Oh, my God. It's like a fight back to the

people. It's like, let me get a little bite of them reparations. On top of

the fact that I stole- Angela Davis would be proud. Thank you. I stole for

a living for 10 plus years, so yeah, I'm going to support the hustle that

I was in. Y'all talking- that walk through the barbershop. Nah, my folks call me.

What brand you want? What store you want me to go to? Boosters go shopping.

It's levels to that. That's a shopper. They're professional shoppers. We're not talking about the

smoker that or the drug addicted person that bucks up on something and he bring

you in a box. Oh, okay. That's what I'm used to. No, no, no, no,

no. Yeah, we not talking about that. You talk to a good booster. Yo, I

need this. I'm talking about a booster. I need these sizes. I need boom, boom,

boom. Not just that. Every in this room, we'll take some from a booster. Sure.

Absolutely. So what are we talking about? Well, the very first point I made was

what do you need to get from a booster and how vacuum shouldn't be on

that list? And that's when all of y'all knock if you buck and said you

could call anywhere and get the new Hoover. I can give any Hoover number I

need. Y'all did that. Your original quote was, yo, at 40-something years old, you shouldn't

be f***ing with the booster. Yeah, that's what he said. That was your

original quote. Then them Dysons cost $1,000. What? comes through with the Dyson for $400,

I'm going to buy it. I might not even need that. Sometimes a good deal

just pop up. Yo, I got this. I'm letting it go for this much. Oh,

word? Y'all are all over the place. Is it a deal came across your table

or are y'all deeply engulfed in the network of boosters that are actively

going in stores to shop for you? You are so well-spoken. Like, that's hard. You

know what I mean? This nigga good, man. I could do both. It's both. I

could do both. If I know parts... Do what he do with the... And I

got an order to put... A nigga hit me the other day. He had a

Birkin. Ooh. He said, yo, I get everything. Wait, hold on, hold on. You needed

a Birkin? I'ma leave you. I'ma say, you needed a Birkin. No, his fault, jumping.

Nigga said, yo, I got a Birkin. He had all his YSL shit. I don't

want to put nobody on blast. A year ago, one of our friends came in

here with mad Louis Vuitton everything. And guess who the fuck bought some? Every nigga

in his room bought some shit. Why you didn't call me with the version? I

didn't personally put it. Why you called me? You know I ain't with the version.

Mad Louis shit. But that was coming across the table. Sure. But you purchased. That's

what I'm saying. Y'all, they mixing up my points here. Maybe I don't get it.

But nigga walked up to me right now and said, yo, I got a Rolex.

A Rolex. I I might buy it. If you got a Rolex, you can keep

that. It might be a Rolex. You can keep that Rolex. But I'm not constantly

like, yo, can you get me? But listen, y'all plan to be connected to the

booster world until death? Yes. If I'm lucky. Hey, I'm not looking

down on y'all. Y'all ain't got to be sad. I hit the booster, yo. I

need a MacBook. I'm not looking down on you. I have a question for Joe

because I didn't get your point. I'm not looking down on you. So Joe, you...

Okay. Y'all are full of dignity. Joe, your point was... that we shouldn't seek it

out, but it's okay if it falls on our lap. Because the way you were

speaking before, I would think that the guy came with the Louis. I would judge

somebody that is calling me trying to put a vacuum across my lap. I would

feel like a total crackhead if somebody called me and said, you already called me

by the Birkin. Got it. If somebody called and said, I got a 12th pack

of palm olive. Do you need a discount? I would want to question the relationship.

But again, I'm different. I got it. I got it. I got it. In the

relationship that I had with this person is... You niggas ain't even got rugs. The

relationship that I had with this person is that they go out and steal from

me. So exactly, they're going to hit me on top of the fact, like I

said, I've been in my house for five months. Do you have rugs? My first

order was, yo, I need stuff for the house. Anything new house shit. These the

brands I like. This the kind of stuff I like. So it's coming through. So

I'm just slow, something fast. I ended up with three ninja players. You need a

ninja? No. I got three ninja brands. I don't. Whatever rug you got could be

swept, child. Facts. It can. You don't. But I vacuum wanted it. You said you

got a Roomba. Which still ain't a vacuum. You said that was a gift. What

is a Roomba? I know. It's not a vacuum? The Roomba is recording you play

with yourself and selling the data. Oh, my God. No. I'm kind of in. I'm

a little bit of a rat. Hey, hey, no judgment. We can't have a problem

with the Roomba doing it, but anything else got to fucking care. Word, word. That's

a great point. Yeah, my Roomba, I ain't there. Nah, if you're going to be

there recording, touch me back. Fast. Your TV don't

do it. I need a Roomba with the arms. You got a bunch of other

shit recording you in the house before you get to the Roomba problem. No, Roombas

really do record people. You think my TV is recording me masturbating? Oh, it does

map your house. You think my TV is just taping everything? Yes. Every last thing.

Even if I turned off all of the thingamajiggies. Is power still going to it?

Yes. The power's still on the air. Same reason why you can't turn the power

off to your phone. All right. Who is the genius bar in the booster world?

He probably masturbate ugly as shit. Who do y'all call? You masturbate to pump it

up. I masturbated my girl. Okay, that's cute, but I just can imagine your facial

expression being mad. No, I masturbate to my girl. Okay, but I'm seeing you. Who

doesn't? I'm seeing you ugly as shit in the act. We all masturbate to our

girls. I'm not talking about the girl. I'm talking about you being ugly as shit

in the act. You probably masturbate ugly as shit is what I said. Yeah, like

an aggressive masturbate face. Like a real aggressive angry podcaster jerk. Oh, shit. You know

what I mean? I'm beautiful. You are gorgeous. I'm beautiful, but I mean, I don't

want to be inappropriate, but it's beautiful. It's beautiful. Mark, I don't believe everybody masturbates

to their girl. Everyone in here does. For sure. Because we're in love. Well, this

room, I'm sure. None of y'all masturbates to y'all girl. That's stupid. You can just

fuck the bitch. Like, what are we talking about? You masturbate to the bitch you

can't touch. Like, what are we talking about? You can always just fuck her.

Yeah. I hate playing the games with the guys. It's so annoying. Sometimes

option B is like Alex Henault climbing the skyscrapin'

sometimes option two is like what did we do today Joe, you so judgy. What

did we do today and what type of performance are you expecting out of me?

And you know what it's like. Number two more importantly. And you know what type

of time I'm on in the morning. So don't you want to let me rest?

And what do we eat? You want to let me rest. What do we eat

is a goal. That's a very important one. Yeah, what do we eat? Did I

not? Like if it's pot roast, y'all done. If it's salad, you could go. Bad

rice and beans, you farting. That's no good. That's that couple shit for real. You

know what's funny? Not to rehash old stuff. But I was watching the clip of

you brothers talking about fighting Deontay Wilder and Jon Jones and all that. And

you know, my brain is weird. So one of the thoughts I had was you

could tell which niggas ain't just never fucked like a tall bitch. I know

that that's weird getting there. What is the tallest woman that you've ever slept with,

both of you, you and Ish? Maybe 6'1", 6'2". 6'4", for me. Models are usually

that height, so... 6'4". That's what me and Ish do. How

about you, Ice? About 6'. 6'4". Barsity Hoops, same thing.

Them tall girls, there's a lot to wrestle with. There's a lot. Y'all have had

girls taller than y'all, right? Yeah. We all the same height when we laying down,

though. We get it, you tall-ish. I'm about to try and be funny. I don't

fucking talk, girl. I don't care. I would. I've never had. It's kind of hard.

6'6 chicks are not common. Because you're 6'5". Yeah, damn. That's a

big hit. Same age. I've dated shorter guys a

lot. You're pretty tall. Yeah, I'm like 5'8". Sturdy. Amazon.

No, don't do that. Black people always go too far. What's the

definition of Amazon, y'all? Ish, what's the definition? My phone locked

up. Not it!

Mark got the fuck out of this. What is an Amazon? Not you.

It's a company. What's that? That's where I get my vacuum

cleaner. A member of a legendary race of female warriors believed

by ancient Greeks to be... Not that one. No, the nigga version. We ain't talking

about Wonder Woman and Hell. I always thought it was a big girl,

like tall and thick. Not fat, tall and thick though. I don't think you gotta

be thick to be considered. I thought Amazon's you had to be thick. I think

you gotta be a certain level of... A tall, physically strong, athletic, or commanding woman.

There we go. I didn't know that. I never knew it had nothing to do

with athleticism. Gotta have some guns. Yeah, I didn't know that. So like muscles and

stuff like that? Oh, I didn't know that at all. A couple of WNBA players.

Gotta have some lats, some quads. Well, it's not that bad about this. Triceps. Jesus.

That's it. Microphone check one two one two what's popping

out there what's popping out there? Wake it up wake it up out there. Let

me get these drops out the way

Who's your

button? Who's that? Is Mark Lamarhead a pussy?

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to him, Mr. Thousand Doors and Up, Ish is here. Next to him, the freeziest

of them all, Freeze is here. Next to him, our good brother, Parks is here.

Poe is here. Corey is here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are here by

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are here. What's poppin', what's poppin', what's poppin'? What's up, man? Good to see everybody.

Functioned on about five hours of sleep tonight. Had to soak in as much J.

Cole pause as possible. Same. Double album is a lot for a next day review.

It is. But I feel good. If you're looking for an in-depth analysis,

in-depth expert analysis on an album that came out not even 12 hours ago. Not

at all. You got it right here. A double disc album. A

double disc. I got a lot of thoughts, so I'm not. A double disc. Huh?

Do you have a lot of thoughts? Hell yeah. I got a lot of thoughts,

too. Yeah. Yeah. Been up since 3 a.m. We got to jump right in. Why

not? I think my overall impression was that J. Cole made this album for J.

Cole in Fayetteville. And if any of us mortals have something that we take out

of this that we like, awesome. This felt very personal and very local.

That is a great way of putting it. That's a great way of putting it.

The whole first album is a story of... When I first started listening to it,

I didn't really... I know I read all the notes that he dropped, but I

didn't take it into account. Then about halfway through, I went back and went, let's

go re-read this and see what he was saying. He was talking about how it

says, disc 29, he went back to Fayetteville, his hometown, at 29, and this is

a tale of the experiences. And I think it's... That first disc, for me, is

interesting because... It's some of J. Cole. Whatever J. Cole is good at, I think

you see him at his best here. Like, bars-wise, I think he's up. Storytelling, he's

up. Storytelling was the main strength of this album. I mean, storytelling is crazy. The

whole album is a story. Both discs. Yeah. But there are moments, particularly in the

first disc, where I just, to your point about he made it for him. Yeah.

Some of the production, some of the beat choices, I feel like J. Cole...

I loved him rapping on every song, and there were songs where I was like,

this song would be better with a more grandiose beat. Oh, yeah. You know, it

felt, some of it shit I loved because it felt like Boom Bap from 94.

Some of it I loved. It was perfect for me and my headphones, but for

who I think the audience wants him to be and for the kind of goal

I would want his quote-unquote final album to be, sometimes I wish there were some

different people. The Alchemist beat is amazing, right? I love that shit. He always got

to find the drums on the Alchemist beat. I wanted more of that. I want

a little bit more of that production-wise. But storytelling, there was a few songs that

had me in a chokehold. Just to name a couple real quick.

Safety. Safety had me. I love safety. I love Bunch Road Blues, and I love

drum and bass. Those three for me were like the standouts on that first disc.

And it was great. The production, I think, is mostly T-minus. He's an executive producer,

and J. Cole as well. They handled a bulk of it. You could tell. Yeah,

I didn't love the production, but I didn't hate it either. I thought it was

fine, and I think that for an album that is mostly based on storytelling, you

kind of have to have beats like that. I think that those kind of beats,

whether we want to hear exciting or not, not to say they're not exciting, because

they're knocking. You know, the drums are knocking. The bass is not bad. It's fine.

For its last album, I just don't want to say, like, oh, the production was

fine. We don't know that it's his last album. Let me put it

differently. If you put out a double disc in hip-hop, This should be a major

piece of work. This should be one of your, if you think about Pac, think

about, like. I knew you was about to start comparing. Yeah. No, because that's what

I want from him. I'm going to compare too. Because he's capable of that. And

the raps are, I mean, again, so far I really love this album. I'm just

saying. You don't know that he's capable of that. He's had better production than previous

albums. I will say that. But Joe, even listen to the mixtape last week. When

he's on Epic Beats, I think, you and I disagree with this, I think he

shows up. I'm telling you that, and we want to have a nice, cool, and

clean conversation. I'm telling you that All Eyes on Me and Life After Death

are two of the better albums ever made in hip-hop. True. And they're double discs.

Yes, that is fair. J. Cole is phenomenal. We do not know that he can

do that. I agree. And if we begin to compare, then no, this is not...

I think the better comparison for this album is the Kendrick.

This is a concept album to me, which is interesting. Super side note, but I

was having a musician nerd friend conversation about the best British bands and the Who's

name came up in conversation and I'd never really listened to the Who like that,

despite they have a couple slaps that everyone knows. So I went back and listened

to their whole discography, which is only maybe seven or eight albums, but most of

them are concept albums. So I'm already kind of in concept album mode when I

heard that, and I thought that was a little interesting. That's a good one. And

I also thought that him kind of ragging on Kendrick during the battle, granted it

was a battle so all things are not to be taken super serious, he ragged

on Kendrick for his double disc, which was a concept album, and then made a

concept album. I thought that was a little interesting. A double disc one. That's a

really good one. Halfway through the first disc, I went back and read them letters,

I mean the notes, and I said, okay, I get it, because... Disc one wasn't

for me. Disc one was clearly, and when he said, this is 29-year-old me, well,

that was a J. Cole I wasn't really listening to like that, that I wasn't

too much of a fan of. Wow. So I was like, all right, cool. Now

I understand why this really ain't connecting with me that much. Rapping is there. It

was just, eh. Production made me want to go say, hey, who did these beats?

Because this sounds like back when Cole was doing all his production, and majority of

it was that. Again, this just sounded Co-era.

This is diehard Co-fan music, not both of us who kind of warmed up to

him later on. This album reinforced the critiques that I had about him. Okay. I

think that's fair. Disc one was very boring to me. I wasn't blown away until

the second half of disc one, personally. Track seven is weird. Which was around with

Alchemist's album. I mean, there's a couple of joints on him. I'm comparing overall. And

then I'm listening to this as comparing Co-to-Coal. So your previous

albums, this feels like regression. Oh, wow.

See, I get that and I understand that. I think that, again, this album is

for him and for his hometown. So I can't compare this to albums that he

was swinging for the fences a little bit more from a commercial standpoint. Like he

wasn't trying to make no hit on this album. Cool, but this is an album

that you've... This probably had more hype than... And fuck the battle. I don't give

a fuck about the battle. This album had more hype than maybe any other album

outside of his debut. That may be true. So if you chose to make it

a very personal album, I mean, you set this bar. You putting up the whiteboard

and showing us your plan and your graceful exit as some may think this is

the retirement album or whatever the case may be. You played into a lot of

that with your rollout and made that you have a very high bar set. And

coming off of your previous works. I think all that was intentional. Cool. It could

be intentional. So now when I get the project, I'm underwhelmed. I understand that. With

disc one. I'm only speaking on disc one right now. I think he did this

for his town and for himself. And I think that that was intentional. Let me

build this shit up and I'm going to give you me on it. And bring

you back to where I'm from, which is not a major city. So that's like

super fly to like, I'm going to bring you into this world. It's hyper local.

The storytelling and the lyrics. I thought that for me was compelling. I didn't find

this one... boring at all, but I get why, like you said, if you're not

a diehard day one cold person, I get why you might feel that way. I

didn't feel that way. I love this one. You know how I feel, but yeah.

I think he also took a lot of risks vocally, a lot of singing, a

lot of different tones and shit like that, which was interesting. Would you have wanted

more features? No. Because in terms of you got Thames, you

got Future. Burner Boy. Would you want other people singing the hooks or doing some

other things to make it? I would also have made it more interesting. I like

when he does hooks. So I'm not mad at that. I have a question, Parks.

Like, if an artist does make a... Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know. If an

artist does make something and it's more for them or whatever, when it comes to

the masses, us, does that matter what you was thinking in regards to, like, how

you judge it? Like, if you know the artist making it for them or whatever

reason, does it really matter? For us it matters, but for him it doesn't. For

me it don't matter. I don't care what your intention was. I'm taking your art

as you presented this. And I'm the consumer. I'm the listener. So when I put

the headphones on and listen to it, cool, you made this going into it. This

is personal to me and I want to do it this way. But if it

don't sound good to me, then it's just, all right, good attempt. I mean, you

might love it because you made it for you. But me as a consumer, I

don't love it. When artists say they made it for them, I just don't really

get that because you want to make money. I don't know if he said that.

That's how I feel. And everybody don't. To what you said, everybody doesn't go into

the album trying to make money or something. He's also going to make a lot

of money on this. Yeah, some people really are just... Passionate in creating art. They

really want this to be a piece of art. And I put him on that

side. He don't really do much for the money.

This album from Cole, I have a lot of thoughts. I have a lot of

thoughts. Yes, I would have liked more features to answer Mark. To

Ais's point, at some point listening, I did feel like this was... when Cole was

doing his own beats. At some point I had that thought. I'm gonna say that

was around verse disc two. I thought disc one is the one. I

like the exact opposite. Disc two is way better. Disc one is the one for

me. Yeah, it's a rapper's rapper. There's a few things going on on this thing.

I personally enjoy the tribe-ish beats, the Dilla,

Conductor, Souls of Mischief. Oh, I didn't get that at all from these beats. I

felt like that on what's his name? I did. Safety definitely felt like that. It

wasn't no lo-fi or abstract. It was fairly straightforward beats. Sound like J.

Cole beats. Yeah. Oh, I got lo-fi from a lot of these beats. I did

shit. I got lo-fi from quite a few of these beats, most of them being

on disc two. I appreciate this project because y'all had

went back and read the notes. I read them as soon as they dropped. And

listening to the project, especially disc one, I can appreciate

going back to your hometown when you're the man. Yeah, I can relate to it

a lot. I relate. Yeah, I relate to that. I relate to leaving to go

get a job done, going to do that job, and then going back home.

at 29 and at 39. Cause you listening to this

shit on disc one very early I was like, shit when he started, when he

opened with the country music. Yeah, it's folk but yeah. Whatever it was, that

sound was like, it brought me to, when I'm in South Carolina and on Sunday

everybody in church and niggas in pickup trucks and playing gospel or whatever the fuck

is going on, it just, he was painting a picture and I appreciate him painting

the picture, right? Like, on, on, I don't have the names of all of them,

but, uh, poor thing. When he starts serving up his man, when he starts serving

up homeboy that was back home talking shit, yo, yo, I heard some nigga back

home was talking some local nigga. Whoa, he tore this

local nigga apart. But at home, as a listener, I'm like, yo, Who the fuck

is Jay Cole talking to right now? But I know in Fayetteville, North Carolina right

now. They know exactly who the fuck is. In Charlotte and all surrounding towns, it's

lit up there. Facebook jumping. It's all the country niggas that are into rap

and they watch this nigga from small and believed in them and... That whole

circuit is in an uproar upside down right now. I do think that that's fire.

It is. I think that's fire. Safety, one of my

favorite joints. I'm going to play a little bit from it right now.

Gave me a Nas One Love type of vibe. Okay, yeah. Then that sax come

in like that. Yeah, I just felt like the better beats by far were on

disc one, by far. Like for me, this is one of the better beats on

the whole album. It is. Me too. I'm with that. But that's what kept me

up. I heard this and I was like, oh, this album is going to be

crazy. Like he did a lot of jazz throughout the album. And this

was a real good usage of it to me. Yo, and what a just hard

way to open. Yo, I'm fresh back. Yes. This is what's going on. This is

what niggas is saying. Yes, sir. See, he's painting a picture. Like, I

think this happened. There was really a girl that used to be bad that

now you back and your man's telling you, yo, you see it? She's still aight?

Like, check it. Like, this is so graphic and he's so

great at this. He is great at this. This album for me was

everything I absolutely love and adore about J. Cole and And also everything I

absolutely hate about J. Cole. I can agree with that. Or the things that frustrate

me about J. Cole. And as we go on, I'll get into some of those

things. We got to get to verse two on here because verse two is hilarious.

I don't think it's supposed to be. So now verse two is funny because

if I have the songs right and I listen to this more than once because

I took a long nap. Early in the day. Like I had a very busy

day, was in bed by three o'clock. I woke up at 11 ready to go.

I woke up at 11 p.m., stayed up to about 3.34 in the morning. Nice.

Letting it go, went to sleep with it. I might maybe paused it at track

eight on disc two. I intended to only listen to disc one. And I was

in the studio, had it in the bigs, you know, vibing. But it's like watching

a movie. You think, maybe I can cut this shit off halfway. Now I kind

of see where this goes. A busy day put you in bed at 3 p.m.?

Well, first of all, on a Thursday, if I can get Thursday, I'm in bed

early. But I had a really busy and hectic and very productive, life-changing and life-altering

type of day yesterday. So I got in bed. Yeah, life changing. World changing.

Good life changing. Amazing day. I met some really terrific people.

I had really good vibes. Yeah, I was in bed. I was in bed before.

Job well done. The meeting you waited for all week. You needed out the park.

Aaron Judge, you can go home and go to bed stress free, your mind free

of. whatever was on your mind before. Congratulations. Thank

you. Thank you guys. All this shit is awesome. Um, so verse two, his man

is, his man is telling him, yo, Quay died.

I love this in rap too. When it's somebody that you don't know. I love

that. Some people hate it. I really love it. I absolutely love it. I absolutely

love it. So he's trying to tell him when Quay's funeral and wake is, uh,

So for the verse to go with, go, like immediately it go to, oh shit,

he was gay and we got away from him. Oh, this one, yeah, okay. He

was taking a dick in the butt. Oh, when he go to Atlanta. He was

taking a dick in the butt. So he went over there to Atlanta. We distanced

ourselves, I ain't gonna lie. And now, he went right there off the fucking head.

But he did it so beautiful. No, it's a fire verse. This whole song is

fire. This whole song is crazy. That was really great. J.

Cole could have rolled this back then. There's a couple records on this that are

super Lupe-coated to me. This is one of them. This feels like

some of them hooks from the cool. I used to love her. Redo is also

very, very Lupe-coated. Shout out to Lupe. I feel like this...

Maybe in a perfect world. I feel like to J. Cole, this could be his

final album. I feel like in his brain... I did it. I did it. I'm

done. I'm independent. And actually, yeah, I'm not so in love with

hip hop anymore. I get that from I'm Still In Love With Her and It's

Lonely at the Top, which we'll play at some point. Both of those songs are

telling me that J. Cole is like me. He wants to ride that bike and

chill out. He's over the shit, bro. Yo, dawg. You realize fame ain't what it's

cracked up to be. You're not here for the fame. You grow up and you

notice yourself listening to less and less and less and less hip-hop. For

some people that were immersed in this shit, it gets to absolutely nothing. Niggas thought

Kanye was crazy all them years ago when he said, my house is too clean

for me to put hip-hop on. We judged him. We threw tomatoes at that nigga.

But you hear J. Cole on Lonely at the Top and you be like, Well,

yeah. I mean, I identify with that at 45. You never liked rap. I listened

to it. It molded me. It shaped me. And that's kind of what he's talking

about a lot on here, which is why I fuck with it so much. We

were raised by some of these rappers. For sure. We, when we saw music

videos and rappers on interviews, that was in our blood, our DNA. We went,

we were home as teenagers writing, dreaming, writing, This was a dream come

true to do shit like this. And then you get in it and realize,

oh, it's all a farce. It's all. It's all smoking. We'll get to that. It's

not. It's not what it was cracked up to to be. The rappers I looked

up to and the rappers I admired. are not that, they're caricatures

of themselves. The songs are from song makers and song writers and writing camps.

They're not genuine thoughts. He didn't really write this record. That was passed down from

the A&R because Ludacris didn't want it. And it's like, huh, where am I? Where

am I? Oh, we can't get paid from certain shit. Oh, we got to go

on the road. We got to get money on the road. We got to fight

for just everything. Now, why? Why? Why? I don't need this shit. Why? Especially when

you're as successful as he's been. Like, yeah, I'm cool. Yeah, man. Yeah. I totally

feel him on this. My problem with J. Cole is he's anti-climatic. Yeah. Yeah.

Although he gets into some, later in the record, he gets pretty, pretty animated.

I want to play Poor Thing because why did he do his man like that?

Poor Thing is another one of the better songs, period, to me on this

entire project. The best of the best to me is the last four,

five. On which disc? Two. Oh, see, for me, on both discs, if

you cut off the final four or five songs, I'm great. Yeah, you're missing something.

Oh, wait, really? So you going with... I'm absolutely... Drum and bass? Oh, drum and

bass is incredible. Put on drum and bass for me. Well, let me get to

the poor thing. Let me get to the poor thing because he's serving some local

nigga up. Also, why I'm not mad at the Fayetteville shit. Great announcement. Is

like we've been... We've seen regional hip-hop just killing. Yeah. Regional hip-hop

is... Looks to be on an upward swing. Even when I was wrong about take

me through there, take me through there. But... Yeah, it's back. So if regional shit

is back, I'm one of the best rappers in the world. Nobody's going to pay

no mind to North Carolina. Why would I not? Right. Why would I not? And

he been doing that his whole career. Yeah, he a hometown guy. Yeah, this ain't.

Uh-oh. A local nigga, you thought he was done right there because he started talking

about his pride and ego. Not at all. He right back on your ass.

Uh-oh. Ooh, and you know he about to fuck you up. Now he started a

hymn. When J. Cole started hymn. Uh-oh. Wait a

minute. Come on. What are you talking about? What are you talking about on disc

two? He is bugging on disc one. You bugging on this too as well. Super

bugging. Yo, imagine being one of the top rappers in the world

and hearing that shit that local dude said and doing it. Yo, there's no other

album or album rollout or album concept that I would be able to just shoot

at the local nigga that everybody in my hood heard. He is flaming this local

nigga. Hey, local nigga, man. DM me or something, man. We gotta

hear you song. Yeah, I gotta. What happened? Yeah, what? How you got your man

going crazy? Yo, J. Cole just said at the end of the song to the

local nigga, to let's Drop your load. Let's meet up. No guns. You said I

ain't real. But I'm back. So now let's see if I'm real. Holy shit. This

nigga gonna ride the city bike to the beef. Yo, I fuck with this.

Nah, because the world don't know we're on it like that. But back home. Nah,

sometimes it be that one person. Like, yo, you? I respect that. I absolutely love

that. Let me see. Legacy. Super fire girl joint. Super

Fire Girl joint. I'm not going to beat you down. Bounce Road Blues, Thames. Come

on, stop it, y'all. Alchemist, Future, J. Cole. Yeah, you can't miss it. Yeah, stop.

Which one? Bounce Road Blues. Bounce Road. That's the one you're talking about. Oh, Bounce.

I'm fucking it up. Bounce Road Blues, to me, is one of the better records.

One of the better records on the entire album. And back to Mark's feature point,

that's what made me realize J. Cole, for me, is too...

monotone for double disc. Yes. Agreed. Yes. And then he's too monotone for double disc

and J. Cole beats. And I'm saying that as an MC that also was monotone,

more monotone than him. He does more with his singing and with his vocals than

even I did. But he don't have the voice for double disc. So when Tim's

came on, it was such a breath of fresh air for me. When Burner Boy

came on disc two on that, what am I yearning for on that flip?

That's the other thing about disc two. The Mobb Deep flip, I did not love

that. That's one of my... No, it is not. The Realist flip. There's two Mobb

Deep flips. There's Drop and Gem Little, which was on this end of... No, you

know the one. I'm talking about the Realist. I didn't love that either. One of

my favorite beats of all time. I did too much with it. That's one of

my favorite beats of all time. So I did not love that. Didn't love what

he did with the DMX flip. Like, some of the flips, I didn't really love.

And for me, those were on disc two. But back to disc one. Bunce Road

Blues. I feel like we got to play some of that. We got to play

a little bit of that. Because, come on, man. Come on. Absolutely

Fire. We know who did this beat. Alchemist. Alchemist. Fucking Alchemist, yo. Alchemist, I love

you so much, yo. They feel different to me. Yeah. I love that most of

the beats are doing something to help with the, for me that helps with the

monotonous tone sometimes. Y'all lying, man. Come on, stop it, yo. Stop it, yo. Fix

y'all fucking faces around. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop

it. I'll not freeze. Yo, what? What? Newer couch. What up? What up? What up?

What up? Wake it up over there. What's up? What's up? What's up? Y'all good?

I'm great. Y'all lying on this if y'all not fucking with this. Joe. This song.

This song? No. I like the beat. That's the only thing I like about this

record. This particular song. Really? It's regular. Even with the little Usher drum? You said

it's regular. It's seven o'clock. I didn't get to disc two. I heard mostly all

of disc one. And if you're saying disc one is the best disc. Nah, you'll

like disc two better. You'll like disc two. You'll like disc two better. Well, I

don't know, because you like Boomba too, bro. Motherfuckers, man.

Oh, you got to be joking, man. She don't do no wrong, though, to me.

She never here. Bunch Row Blues immediately into

Who the Fuck Is You. Again, one of the better songs on the entire project.

And drum and bass. Drum and bass is fire. We're going to get to drum

and bass. I didn't hear what y'all heard. Well, listen again. I didn't hear that.

I didn't hear that. Maybe I was so blown away with Who the Fuck Is

You and what I've heard thus far into the album. Remember, Who the Fuck Is

You is track eight on disc one. Right. I'm satisfied. Really?

I'm pleased on disc one. You had eight songs. I've been grooving.

You've killed this conceptually. You've hit Fayetteville. You've hit stories. Like,

I'm thinking that he about to fucking, if this is the start, I'm We off.

Yeah. Come on, man. Yo, and let me just tell you, I'm

retired, and the fans never did say I picked a great beat.

But the second half of Who the Fuck Is You, that beat is absolutely insane

to me. Shut the Vitals. That beat, that's Vinyl. That beat is absolutely insane to

me. to me guaranteed to make any studio session that a real rapper is in

turn the fuck up. That beat is like, oh, it's like total no one else

mixed with like fucking Can't Stop, Won't Stop, Young Guns mixed with. That second beat,

sick. Also, the music is doing a lot of helping with him

for me. Okay. Like, this is crazy, this whole shit. This shit is fire. In

terms of arrangement, Lyrically, his flow, he's killing again. And this is the

joint from the trailer, so we finally get to hear the whole thing now. This

was the song where I realized one of the things that frustrates me about J.

Cole, which is he's one of the best rappers in the world. And then that's

it. For me. What do you mean? I get that. Me too? And then that's

it. What do you mean? It's not an event. It's not...

He sounds like he, for me, only for me, Dreamville people, please don't kill

me. He, for me, like I was reminded a lot of Nas on this album

somehow. You can tell he's been listening to me. It sounds like the best rapper

in the world that has just been observing his entire life. Yeah.

Just looking. Like Hov said, you witnessed from your folks past, scribbled in your notepad

and created your life. I don't think that's whack. J. Cole did that as a

diss, but I don't think that's whack. To be able to observe something, that's fly.

And J. Cole, as I'm listening to his story about North Carolina, when I

leave, I leave with... What'd you do?

Like, you were the most talented guy that rapped the best, that knew it probably

wouldn't get popping from North Carolina. It's hard to do. bounced to where it was

some motion. Like, it was rap. You did it. You lived your absolute dream. But

in terms of the beat starting and me thinking that I'm about to hear like

a new experience, this album, almost too many stories for my

liking. I get that. Because he don't, he can't, for me,

like on disc two, he told a story, and I get what he was doing,

about him pulling up to get gas

and somebody asking for a picture. I love that. He done

storied me so much before that point. I didn't feel like this was necessary. There

was no twist. There was no plot. This was, yo, I went to the gas

station to get gas. I tried to hide because people recognize me and I hate

being famous. I identify with that. And somebody wanted a picture. I'm like, dog, if

we on a double disc and that's the moral of the story, scrap the song.

Yeah, agreed. Nah. Scrap the song, yo. I'm not mad at the song. I like

that. If the whole purpose is everything that happened at, you know, 39 when I

go back to the city. Yeah, you walking me through that every day. Yeah, somebody

asked me for a picture and I can frame this. I'm putting you in my

place as the person who was here at 29, leave, leave. Y'all know what my

career did. Now I'm back 10 years later. I'm putting you in my shoes of

everything that I'm witnessing and going through. I'm not mad at that, yo. But your

shoes was boring at 39. I love raps about Padusha. Your shoes was boring at

29. No, they were not. No, they were not. That's where we differ. No, they

were not. That's where we differ. No, they were not. He left, got lit, went

back home at 29. Y'all never seen nothing like this. That's not not lit. That's

not not lit. I went through that. I went through that off Clue tapes. I'm

talking about- Jersey City was in an absolute uproar of Clue Tapes. He's the man

out there going back in 29. Oh, no, no, no. I'm talking about the way

it sounds. Okay, yeah, yeah. He's lit. It's lit. I get what you're saying. By

39, he has fallen out of love with hip hop if I'm listening to his

words. And that's what it just comes off as to me, that's all. That's all.

I want to get to the second half of this shit just because I think

it's crazy. Yeah, that's absolutely crazy to me. That's absolutely crazy to me.

Y'all wanted to hit drum and bass, right? My bass is fire. Let me see.

For me, this should have ended, this one. Nah, I like the... Even though I

like Let Out. Lonely at the top. Lonely at the top is... It's a little

bit of an aside from the rest of the project. Like, the rest of the

project is, he's 29 in Fayetteville. Lonely at the top is like current day. Kind

of talking about the same shit, but... It's hard. It's

hard. It's hard. The Let Out was unique. I don't hate it,

especially toward the second half. I like that. I saw a lot of people not

like it. I get it though. Again, it's the narrative. It's all the narrative. I

get it as part of the story. Again, it helps for me to break up

some of the monotony of his vocal vocal tone. But if it weren't

there, I wouldn't care. Right. I feel the same way about bombs in the bill.

I definitely feel that way about that one. And also I understand why it's there,

but if lonely at the top, wasn't there but that tells a lot of the

stories it does yeah it's kind of like the uh narrator or something exactly exactly

yeah but i just thought he was doing such a great job with the story

that a lot of disc two wasn't needed whole new story yeah whole different story

without substance for me uh i will agree that it's less narrative based he tried

to slip a couple records that are just more standalone? I feel like there's not

much on disc one that's standalone. I see why he didn't really pick a single

because there's not really a single. I couldn't find a single on here. I think

that the Tim's record is a single. I think that the Burnin' Boy record is

a single. I think that Legacy is a single and there was one more record

on here that I thought was a single. I don't think that he goes into

album rollouts anymore. in that state of mind, especially as an independent anymore, like single,

single, single, single, single. But do I think that there are records on here that

are gonna continue to pick up and support the project? Yeah. It's there. It don't

sound like just all for the backpackers, all for the J. Cole heads, and all

for the lyrical miracle niggas that don't. Oh, I agree. I think that he tried

to still appeal. I love the intro on disc two. I do. I love it.

The fall off is inevitable. I already had. Yeah, we had that one. So, cool.

The Villis, did y'all care about? I'm trying to hear what y'all heard on disc

two. The Villis is the one with the second mob flip, the one you said

you didn't like. Yeah. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm good

on that one. I love this one. I'm cool. I'm cool. And then Old Dog

is disc two. I love that one. Let me find that one. Here we go.

cool to me. Yeah, it's not my favorite. It's just cool. It's just cool to

me. That was the first song I ran back afterwards. Really? Let me run this

back again. That was the one? Yeah. I get it. For your music taste, the

beat, I get it. Yeah. Yeah, see, that was cool. Another record to me that

just helps with breaking up monotony because you're on disc two at track

five. But to me, it didn't need to be all this. If you condense these

projects... to 16, 17 records, I think you're having an

entirely different conversation. And even that's a lot of music. 16 and 17 records on

a project? I don't think he should have, he shouldn't have had no problem taking

off at least seven of these records. Zero problem doing that. That's my opinion. Especially

if we weren't going to get some more rap features.

Rap features help on a double disc. I get what you're saying. I just don't

think that was his intention. Not at all, because he was telling the story, and

he don't need y'all to tell his story. Right. So I get it. I feel

like this should be his last project ever. I feel like it won't be his

last project ever. I don't think so. It never is. And listening to this, sometimes

it is, listening to this project don't tell me You going off to... Yeah, I

don't think so. I think we'll just get a different J. Cole. I think we'll

just get rapper J. Cole as opposed to like life story J. Cole from now

on. Nah, I think we're going to get... What was it? 39? I think we

get 45 J. Cole telling us what... Now, because now this is a whole new

life. I'm independent now. True. I own all my shit now. Now I'm moving a

whole different way now. And now we're going to get that version of your life.

And in your heart, you're still a poet. You're going to write. Oh, true. That

don't mean release. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. That don't mean release. And if you're listening to

him at 39, nothing sounds like he wants to continue to be seen or heard.

He sounds like he's totally ready to do the Frank Ocean. I see him doing

the Andre 3000 thing, going away and then popping out with, I mean, maybe not

a full project. Well, even that. A couple of joints. That's not really heard and

seen. Well, yeah. Yeah, we said the same thing. Yeah, he don't sound like he

would. He's not going to be active. Yeah, he'd sound finished with niggas. I ain't

gonna lie. And I did it all. Again, what else? I said this before. What

else does J. Cole have to prove? I didn't feel like Life Sentence was necessary

because I had Legacy and the Burner Boy record. Let me get to Only You.

Hold up, because... Another one of my favorite records on this project.

One of my favorite records on this entire project, Only You, Burner Boy. That's hard,

man. We have now reached the entree portion of the album to me. This is

the steak. This is the lamb chops. This is where the album is. That's a

single. These are the songs. Where? Right now. Man Up Above, I Love Her Again,

What If, Quick Stop. I know you don't like that, but I do. And the

whole world is a bit. Oh, then you're really going to be mad at what

I got to say. Let's go to Man Up Above. Man Up Above.

Let's do it. It's fire. It's fire. That's fire. Amazing. Hard. That record is

hard. That's fire. We are at the Lamb Chops. It's what's up, man.

It's cool to me. I'm dead ass. Nobody can. He's one of the best rappers

in the world. Yeah. But for me, this has no replay value. I'm not going

to be listening to this in my car. That's just the honest truth. It's anticlimactic.

I think that he kills shit on so many features. Because it's somebody else's song,

I think the production on somebody else's song, I think Hook on somebody else's song,

when he gets on it, it has all of those other components. Now you're just

adding his genius on it. So it's just amazing. His feature run is amazing. But

when I listen to him, it's just blah for me. It's just blah. Can he

rap? Of course. Nobody in the world can undoubtedly say this nigga can't. He's probably

the best, one of the top 20 rappers ever. but the songs, it's just real,

real, real monotone. It's just like, if you hear one, you hear them all. Almost.

Oh, I disagree with that. The content of these songs are all very, very different.

Yeah. No, I'm not. I'm talking about sonically, all of these songs, it's just a

one monotone flow throughout the whole entire album for me. Nothing after Man Above did

I need. Shit. Oh, what? You're blogging. Absolutely zero

after Man. I don't know if you listen to him enough. Listen, I love her

again one more time. Yeah, I did. And you know what you did. I did.

Multiple times. I believe you. I'm saying one more time, just for the people. He

a student of rap. No, no, no. Listen, I'm going to hear this differently than

y'all. He's a student of rap. I'm going to start there. I'm not going to

hear this the way that y'all are hearing it. One. Two, I'm not saying it's

bad. I'm not saying it's bad. But do I think that his...

Version of I Used to Love Her and how he sees it. I love how

he picked it up from Right Where Common Left Off. I love what he did,

but do I feel like that was needed? I didn't like the light. No, I

don't. And I'm about to say, I don't love that beat either. Oh, I like

the beat. I thought it was interesting to pick up Where Common Left Off, but

to sample a different common song. To sample the light while doing I Used to

Love Her. Right after that is What If. I'm good. Stop it, my nigga. You

do not need to hear J. Cole go through big and pox murder

and say, what if these things, tell me y'all needed that. I didn't need that.

I like that concept. That wasn't my point. I liked it conceptually. I just don't

think that he delivered with the song. I like the concept. I like how he

tried to incorporate Big's rap style, Pac's rap style into the song. It just didn't

hit a home run for me. Again, the concept is fire. It didn't hit a

home run for me. I think it was unneeded in the story of this album.

I will say that. Leave that for Joyner Lucas, bro. Let him do his thing.

For me, at 39, he don't have much to say. He don't. And for me,

that's evidenced by what the fuck he talking about, which is a common flip Yo,

Biggie and Pac, if they were still around, nigga, you're 39. What are you doing?

You was just lit in 29. You was tearing niggas up. You're back in the

hood. They loving you. The old bitches is back. They hitting your line. Where you

at? What you doing? You hype about it? At 39, he's already out of love

with everything. Yeah, though. None of this shit impress me no more. And it sounds

like that to me. I don't feel none of this shit no more. But it

sounds like that to me. That's why you only need 24 songs. That's what I'm

saying. That's what I'm saying. It shouldn't feel like that to me. And to your

point when you first started, you know I was trying to be quiet. But now

he woke me up a little bit. My nigga, everybody's been waiting on this album

for two years. So if you set the bar up there with your track lesson

and all that other shit, I don't really want to hear about your life story.

I don't. Put that shit on the mixtape for your local niggas to know the

nigga locally that you're talking about. The world don't necessarily want to know about Lil

Rah Rah that's coming for you locally. Not me. And then for him to get

to the end of this song and say, oh shit, she was like that from

Jump. Then you, one of the best MCs in the world, didn't need

this to convey it for me. That's for me. And I disagree with earlier. Well,

I don't know you say disagree because I don't know exactly that's what you said.

Somebody said, Ice, you mentioned something about it has nothing to do with their battle.

But I feel like when he stepped back from that battle, I think people did

expect to get something to do. when this came out. You know what I mean?

Anticipation. Right, because if you, you know, if you want to say, look, that's not

good for, because I respected that to know that that's not good for you mentally,

but I'm totally waiting for you to do something like once you put yourself out.

See, I think that he did. This is a much more difficult album to make

to me than trying to just do like, make some slaps. Like this is a,

this is an undertaking to tell a story for fucking an hour and 41 minutes.

I understand why you might not like it, but I understand as an artist and

someone who's in these studios and someone who tries to push some boundaries, that is

much more difficult than just getting some dope beats and flaming it and getting Future

on the record. All right. I'm not mad at it. I can respect the

attempt and still not like the rock girl. For sure. That's me. Also, I thought

this part of disc two had some of the beats that weren't. as lit

as the jazzy disc one beats. Like, this is very... This gives lo-fi to me.

I can't even hear that. Yeah, I was hoping you turned it off. I can't

listen to that. I don't want to hear this shit. I feel like... My problem?

By now, he said everything that he wanted to say and needed to say, and

we could have closed this album and been off to the races. But some of

this is extra. This is extra what if. I just feel like He's too good

of a rapper to do that right there. I don't need that from you. Fair.

Not from you. The bar is high for J. Cole, my nigga. If you were

going to take that concept, you had to deliver better than that. And again, to

my earlier point, Mortal Man exists. Kendrick kind of touched

on the Tupac thing and kind of did it better. Much better way, though.

This is Quick Stop. This is three in a row where... I like this. Yeah,

I love this one. You don't fuck with that one? I'm with you.

Again, yo, the raps are the raps. It feels like to me, he found a

beat with some music that he loved so much, because I love that music. This

didn't call for nothing. He not saying nothing on it. I didn't need the M

Renegade flow for whatever you, there's nothing he's saying on here that we need this

on a double project. Listen, I like it. I like it.

But if you're making a double album, whoever is on the vote team, if there

even is a vote team at some point, he might have records he left off.

I'm sure. Like maybe it's a deluxe coming. Of course. But this for me didn't

feel like it was that important for the story or dope enough to be in.

Yeah. But I love the music because I love the saxophone and the

strings. But this flow is bothering me. He done killed the flow

the whole album. And now I got him at the... Oh, yeah, this is the

one. Yeah, get him the fuck. Now, pack this up, nigga. Nigga, I know you

don't have nothing to say because you had the gas station in the hoodie and

somebody asked for a picture. Yes, J. Cole. Somebody wants to take a picture of

you. Yes, I'm sorry that that's such a big event. Listen to this. No,

no, shut the fuck up. For me, this is the adult version of

him telling us when he lost his virginity in the class. I think that's totally

different. This is the adult version. You didn't have nothing to say. You went to

the gas station. Somebody wanted a picture. And now, because you just need another song,

we have to hear that story. See, I see it more like. You know what?

What happened in the story? What happened? I challenge you, since y'all love it so

much. At the end of it, what happened? Family songs just sound good. All right,

I'm done with you. What do you want me to do? What do you want

me to do? Let's listen. Let's listen. Nothing about him at 39 sounds lit back

home. There's no story being told. I don't want to sound lit. That's the story,

though. But there's nothing happening. There's no story being told. I think there is a

story. There is, yeah. To me, the point is that he goes on his whole

kind of pilgrimage back home, and by this point, he realizes that home will never

be home again. Because even when he's in a hoodie, even when he's pumping gas,

even when a nigga's trying to just sell him weed, just some regular every man

shit, he gets recognized and he can't be himself even at home because now he's

still got to take pictures. I'm telling you that that's how I felt. Maybe I

can relate to it. That's not the Sopranos ending that he thinks it is. I

think it is. You can't go home again. I mean, this might be a taste.

I feel you, but it didn't feel as anticlimactic as it did. That don't sound

anticlimactic? Not to me. Not to me. I'm going to Google to see what that

meant. and make sure you add that extra C. Climactic. I hear you. I'm with

you. What you was saying? You got your hand up. I was about to ask

Mark. Like, once you reach any level of notoriety or any level of popularity, nigga,

I'm not J. Cole. And you can't go back to East Hanover. You get

what I'm saying? Like, I just, I'm with you. I don't really understand that he

needs for the song. Yeah, like, if we take him at his word and this

is his last album, if you think... Nowhere in the world do you think... I

don't like hearing this from Ish because he had a song called Wawa. All right.

And I'm not J. Cole. That is my point. Wait, you hear the song called

What? No. It's a joke. But that's my point. I never know what you do.

I'm not J. Cole. If somebody is saying to J. Cole and Dreamville fans 10

years ago, yo, J. Cole is going to announce his final album. It's going to

be a double disc. Track 11 on it is going to be about him realizing

that he can't go back home because home will never be the same again. That's

the narrative of the whole album. Yeah, I was going to say, you're saying it

like that, but if you put it in context of the entire, what disc two

means, it makes sense, bro. It's like punctuating it. Yeah, it makes sense in the

concept of the entire disc two. I'm totally with you that some records can be

slimmed down. That's usually the case. Can LeBron James go to Akron without taking pictures?

Yeah, what the fuck are we talking about? Like, I understand. Like, can Jay-Z go

to Marcy? That's the big epiphany? Yeah, like, I don't. That's like Matt Damon saying

to Ben Affleck or saying to them niggas in the rip, yo, it was $150,000.

It was $250,000. It was $250,000. It's like, that's what. Yo, niggas was here with

you from day one since mixtapes. You got with Hov. You left Hov. You was

silent on it. You was big three. You beefed. You unbeefed. You apologized. The mixtape,

you gave us more of your actual thoughts currently. Yeah. Now you're doing concept

shit, but at the end of this, and I like the Ocean's outro. I don't

love that. I like the music. I like the music on the outro. I like

the record right before that. That's probably the best rap performance. The whole world is

Deville. I think that's the one. Really? Where he starts ramping up the intensity and

all that shit. Yeah. Yo, you could tell. No, you could kind of tell, too.

I think he challenged himself. because you could hear Lupe, you could hear Em. He

tried to do the big in the pocket. You could hear Nas in the beginning

of the album. You could hear all of his influences. You could hear J Electron.

You could hear niggas in this album that he evidently looks up to and he

wanted to kind of get they style off and the shit. I just think that

he didn't talk about enough stuff to have 24 albums, bro. I mean, 24 songs,

I'm sorry. I just don't think conceptually cool, but just as far as the meat

and potatoes, it wasn't enough. I think 16 songs and this might be a classic.

That's what I'm saying. I agree with that. To me, he robbed it. I think

he robbed himself. 18, 20, he could have did it. I think you could say

that about every double disc except Life After Death. To me. Which is why I

say the bar is so high for double discs. Some single discs, too. There's bad

single discs where you took two or three of them records off. You got something

totally different. But, I mean, don't misconstrue what I'm saying. I like the album. That's

cool. I like the album. There are some of these joints that I'm going to

go back to, especially the girl joints, especially that Burner Boy, that Tim, that Legacy.

That's cool. Dumb Records, this is going to be around for a little bit, some

of these songs. But again, back to the point. But in the scope of his

discography, did it change much for me? Absolutely not. It's still probably Forest Hills Drive

as his best project with Off Season being my favorite project from him. I flip-flopped

those, but I'm with you. I'm right there. Yeah, nothing he did changed that.

I kind of agree. I definitely agree. in the grand scope of, this falls back

towards earlier Cole, really, honestly, for me. Yeah, but either one saying, yo, this is,

if Hov put out reasonable doubt last. It's not. No. Hell no. That's not true,

J. Cole. Yeah. I don't want to be a dick for saying that, but that's

not true. But J. Cole, easily one of the greatest rappers that we have. For

sure. Not even debatable. I love that there's still somebody that actually appreciates the art

form that is down to even... take risks conceptually, not hit every

mark. Please don't get me wrong. I appreciate all of these things, but just this

album did for me also highlight some of the things that frustrate me about J.

Cole. And I appreciate an artist willing to put out a project that's special to

them. Word. Like instead of just, okay, we got to do this. We got to,

okay, we need to go get this feature. We need to get this producer. We

need to, no, this is the project I want to make. Correct. I appreciate that.

Even if I don't like everything about it, I'm still going to appreciate the fact

that you went and I made a piece of art for my hometown, for my

people. Because this album, no matter what I feel about it creatively, it did make

me want to go down south. You did it. The same way when Not Like

Us came out, I was like, all right, I have to go to L.A. Just

to feel the air while this is out. This gives me that. You got to

be there. For North Carolina and South Carolina, for me, honestly. I should call some

of my cousins and see how they... rocking out there with them. I already know

what they're doing up there. I already know. I already know. This nigga's got to

be like a, that's what I'm saying. I love regional hip hop being back and

if you a god in your hometown, get your shit off. Go ahead, dog. Go

ahead, dog. I don't have nothing negative to say about it. Go J. Cole. Go

J. Cole. Congratulations. And congrats J. Cole fans. I've seen a lot of y'all like

happy y'all got this project finally. Oh, for sure. There you go. And, right, good

way to set off the year. Like, it's February. Yeah. Like, let's not be fucking

selfish and entitled hip-hop fans. It's February. The guy gave us a mixtape or a

mix EP, whatever you want to call it. And a double disc. Yeah. Along with

just staying silent, staying focused, and presenting his art the way it was meant to

be presented. J. Cole, the person, and J. Cole, the human...

And MC, and MC, and MC, and MC. But for me at 45, it's who

you are as a human in person first. The artwork could come, the art could

come later. So J. Cole, Dreamville, salute, man. Salute. Great job. And congrats. Great job.

Congratulations. Fully independent. I don't know what the business is, obviously, but it seems like

it. Well, he said it. I ain't a slave no more. I'm done. I'm independent.

Everything is my shit. Shout out to Vinyls. Vinyls, you are absolutely amazing, dawg. T-minus,

too. T-minus, two brothers that know how I feel about them. Two guys that are

absolutely amazing. Jake won. Jake won. Jake won did the, uh, you still love it.

Oh, Jake. This is my whole crew, man. I gotta come back. I gotta come

back, man. He got Jake. Yeah. Yeah. Go Jake won. Shout out to the whole

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right. We want to say congratulations to Matthew Stafford for winning MVP.

Let me give the round of applause for my guy, Matty. Matty Stafford announced he

will be back for next year. I didn't doubt that at all, so way to

go, Matt Stafford. We want to congratulate the wide receiver over there for the Panthers.

He won the Offensive Rookie of the Year. Miles Garrett for the Defensive Player of

the Year. Who else won that we need to shout out? Y'all don't know.

Y'all don't know shit. Vrabel got coach of the year. Vrabel, coach of the year.

Way to go. Way to go. Listen, man, congratulations to everybody that won. Big game

on Sunday. Come on, what's your plans? What's your plan? I got the Parks Flyers,

so I know what's going on over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Little Bad Bunny, Cardi

B. Benito boy. Do we think Cardi B's coming out? Ooh, maybe. Oh, yeah. I

can see that. Yeah. Cardi B is coming out, man. I can see that. What

are we talking about here? Who else? Who else is going to come out? They

say Jennifer Lopez is in Vegas at her residency attempting to sing. Alhamdulillah. Like trying

to really hit him with the ball. The last thing I need is J-Lo's vocals

up there. I can't think of who else bad by the way. Yeah, I don't

know. I'm not sure. Parks? Yeah, I'll be there. That's going to be lit, man.

Pop out. That's going to be lit. Any predictions for the game? Any predictions? Seahawks.

Seahawks by a lot. I got Seahawks by like a whole lot. I don't have

my whole lot, but comfortable. 17 or more. By 10 plus. So if I were

to bet money on the Patriots, I could win some money then. Yeah, you could.

Yeah, I got the Patriots. I got a word from a football insider

who shares a domicile with my brother who told me, I just got the phone

with him, and he said to absolutely put the money on the Patriots. Yo, not

for nothing. Them be the niggas, they be knowing. They be knowing. They ain't got

nothing but time. Yo, Shitty, who Shitty filled his money? His name is Shitty. They

call him Shitty. I don't know why. That's a guy with whom we should place

first. Have you won with Shitty at all lately? No, you haven't. I haven't bet

my money, but his predictions have been right. That's a nickname I would inquire about.

Yeah. That's a nickname I would have to. Yeah, what's the origin? He upstate his

name. He locked him upstate. Do the math, bro. He paint. You be communicating with

the niggas upstate. Mona's got off the phone with me. He's talking to my brother.

On brand for Mona. She won't change her and Ice. I gave. You, I'm trying

to lead to a better place. Excuse me, Mr. Button. Mona and Ice are like

the bottom of the back. Like Mona and Ice are like. I gave brother

star seven. He's a five percenter. I told him peace God and I gave him

some encouraging words. That's what I did. You just made him popular. He was like,

y'all know somebody's name. Don't call me white girl. She told him, put me on

hold and let everybody know that you on the phone with don't call me white

girl. And watch how your life changed. And he changed. I'm going to be good

tonight. Watch. Y'all don't know how I'm doing. I got Seattle special teams scoring points.

I got Seattle defense scoring points. Drake May is still a second-year quarterback. I got

the lights being bright. Yeah, I got Seattle by double digits. Double digits? I got

Seattle by double digits, I do. And I might put something on it. I think

Seattle will win. Final game of the year. I don't think the game going to

be as far-fetched as y'all think, though. And I could see a world where New

England wins the game. If Cardi B is performing, which I believe she is, that

means that she'll be at Super Bowl with a man that she's in love with.

Do I trust Stephon Diggs to go to bed early on a Saturday night in

the Bay? I do not. Do I trust Boot and Travion

Henderson and all of these young Patriots to go out there and be the old

Patriots? You knew wherever them niggas was going, they was going to focus. And Gronk

didn't count. Wes Welker wasn't turning up in the streets. But Gronk, you thought, could

break day to night before and go out there and do everything he needed to

do. These Patriots, I don't really get that feeling from. Congratulations to everybody in New

England. What a quick rebuild. What do you guys think about Tom Brady? Because I'm

not going to... drag us with worse take for too long what do you guys

think about tom brady not really supporting uh the patriots winning publicly and do you

think he's justified in that the second year young model face quarterback they got him

to the super bowl fast oh you mean him fuck you talking about did what

you did nigga nah it's a little different it's different of course i'm just saying

but tom brady was the young chiseled model face nigga that came in out of

nowhere on some injury shit and got us up here. Yeah, but Drake May was

like number two pick or some shit like that. He was high. I'm not disagreeing.

What I'm saying is Tom Brady should support them niggas. Why? Depends on the relationship.

Why? Why would he support? Why? Why does he have to? He don't have to

do shit. I'm saying. He's playing the fence. He's playing. He's straddling the middle right

this second publicly because whoever thought that he would have a broadcasting job that paid

a billion dollars to where we would have to. All right. And whoever thought that

you would have that and the Pats would be in the Super Bowl at the

same time. It's also tricky now because he's with the Raiders so it's a little

oppy. And he's with the Raiders. Yeah. If I'm Tom Brady, I'm not mad at

not publicly supporting the world. Dog, in the beginning, Troy Aikman, the nigga used to

be cursing the fucking Cowboys. They kind of settled in our mediocrity now. But back

then, They was cursing us the fuck out, bro. Trey Aikman, Michael Irvin, them niggas

used to be mad as hell when we used to be doing dumb shit and

losing games. Mad, mad, like visibly mad. So I think that your heart is with

the organization that you played for. I don't think there's nothing wrong with if he

said, yo, I would prefer for New England to win. You think Tom Brady's heart

is in New England? Because I don't. Yes. Oh, I don't. I don't. I don't

think that at all. Okay. Nothing since his divorce, nothing since he left and won

with the Bucs. Nothing tells me that his heart is over there. Listen, I'm not

having a Super Bowl party. I'm not having a Super Bowl

kickback. I'm not having a Super Bowl get-together. my girl is not

going to be here, so patriarchy is not existing, which means there's no food. I'm

not ordering wings and pizza for a bunch of hungry niggas. I'm on Zetbound. I

barely eat. I'm not going out of my way Super Bowl Sunday to do nothing.

I might make some chicken dip and a sausage, egg, and cheese if I'm in

a really good mood. But I plan on sitting in front of, huh? You said

chicken dip? Chicken dip. Like buffalo chicken dip? Buffalo chicken dip. You know how to

do that? He nice with it to him. Go ahead, Joey. I'm making amazing buffalo

chicken dip. That's a good joint, Joey. And I've been saving recipes for dips that

I've been seeing on Instagram and some soups. I know Aisha don't like soups. She's

Spanish? Like collard green dip? Is she Spanish? Recipes, you're saying?

It's cool, bro. Oh, the chefs I've been looking at? No, they're not Spanish. You're

feeding into a narrative that's been painted and misrepresenting me for so many years. Wow.

I like soul food. Soul. Oh, you moved over. Soul food. Now that's

been for life. Change cuisine. That's been for life, my brother. Not to change cuisine.

They funny. This nigga over here with chicken casserole. Shut the fuck up. Oh my

God. Anyway, where was I? We were talking about Zubo. Oh yeah, so ain't nothing

fun happening at my house for Zubo. I'm going to have a candle or instant

lit I'll have the game on some surround sound speakers, but don't expect like a

big hurrah. And if you just hit me on the humbug, don't think you coming

and it's going to be just shit laid out everywhere. My girl is back home

buying all this Super Bowl football, make the table pretty tight. You such a dweeb.

I get the people that's into doing shit like that, but when real niggas see

it, it's like, ugh. Her team there. That's cute. Oh, that's true too. People do

that when they hometown team go. Hometown team. That motherfucker ain't been to Boston in

37 years. That's a home team. Yeah, I know. I know it is. I might

go to Boston. Her mom is a fan. Your team there. Oh, my team. Knock

it off. I love you, baby. Peyton. Peyton. Yep. Back to music. Back to

music. LMA put out a phenomenal project. I can't wait to listen to it. I

listen to a single note. Yeah, I know. I ain't even an R&B dude. The

album... Y'all know that. Yesterday early and I was just like, I ain't had nothing

to do, so I listened to it. That shit is fire. She has a fire

project. Shouts to the executive producer on that one. You might be a R&B dude

when you're in the house, though. When you're in the house, I might could see

you getting in your bag before a little cuddling is. A little what? Before a

little cuddling is. for what? Is that it?

You know the word. Come on with the word. No, say it again. Cunnilingus. No,

you got it. Cunnilingus. Pretty close. I can see you throwing on a little Max

B Folded. Wait. Oh, my God. Before that cunnilingus. I thought this nigga was going

to say Maxwell. This nigga said Max B. He's crazy. He's crazy. Now, you know

Freeze wrote on the Max B Folding. He's crazy. I let your body decide if

this is good or a big freeze. Like, bro. He's crazy. He's scratching her shit

up with that rough-ass beard, nigga. Okay. Yeah. Salute. Getting Beijing all over the

pussy. Oh, my God, bro. Getting your beard dye on the cunnilingus. Getting Beijing

all over the pussy. Nasty ass face. Anyway. Ella Mae. Listen, Jason Tatum.

EP of the year? Come on, man. Yeah. Come on. I don't know why you

didn't try to take credit for this project. You really put your foot in this

one. And I'm joking, of course, because I don't want to take away from the

people that actually contributed. Mustard puts together really good albums, too. Yes, he do. Mustard

and Ella Mae, when she ain't putting a two-minute poem that nobody asked for

at the end of the song, oh, boy. Oh, buddy. Hey, she cut them bum-ass

poems off the songs? We are out of here, my nigga. She heard us. It's

good as a fan to feel heard sometimes, yo. Her album, because I was J.Coling

all morning, I put it in while I was in the shower, and I took

a long shower scrubbing, scratching, all types of shit. Dirty-ass nigga. No exfoliation?

all of that. You crazy? No, he only shower on pod days. You don't want

to play with my shower regimen. He only showers on pod days. You don't want

to play with my podcast regimen. You listen to Freeze Without Me. I mean you

said it you listen to Freeze don't say nothing I said you get knocked out

like that you get knocked out for saying something I said I won't I don't

know I don't feel like getting off the couch right now I know you don't

but at some point I'm about to get sat back down you're not done you're

not done you're not brand new you're still sitting down though that's true I love

you. I ain't doing that to you. If that boy get up fast, he gonna

see stars. That nigga dizzy. He ate three grapes and two sandwiches this week.

Look at him. Small as shit. I look good. You look good.

I know you can't jump up quick. That blood should have fucked up. Let's be

real. We all know this new shit is not the healthiest route. You know what

I mean? I can jump this stupid ass couch. Don't let you jump up there.

Jason Tatum, LMA. Phenomenal job on this project. You did a great job. Shout out

to Mustard. Really good project in your phone and on DSPs right this second if

you haven't had a chance to check it out. Margot, you coming to work? What

are you doing? I'm right there, Crusher. I was waiting for somebody to talk. You're

not really cutting across. You're cutting behind. Album is called Do You Still Love Me?

So go check it out. I can't wait to listen to it. What are you

trying to do? It's heat. And hold up now, because everybody was getting out of

J. Cole's way. For sure. Smart. And I understand that. However, Sasha Keeble

put out her deluxe project, which I wouldn't normally be super excited

about because I hate when they make me buy a album that I already have.

However, however, hold up now. Is that how that goes?

Hold up now. You got to buy out the new songs.

At this point, I hadn't purchased this yet, but just rock with me. Shout out

to her, man. Shout out to her. Sound good. Her deluxe is crazy. Her album

was already incredible, so she put five joints on there that also still sound great

and sound like it's a part of the project. It didn't sound like she missed

a beat at all. So I just wanted to highlight her. And shout out to

the rest of you pussies that got out of J. Cole's way, huh? Pussies. Smart.

Shout out to y'all. Uh-huh, Bruno Mars. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking.

I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. Shout out to J. Cole, man. Go North Carolina.

Go North Carolina. Word. That's the other thing. At some point on the album, and

I'm done with the album review, but I'm just random thoughts. At some point on

the album, he did try to make us spell out Fayetteville. No. No.

Like, you can't be so North Carolina that you spell out Fayetteville. Too many words.

Too many letters. Sorry. Sorry. No. No. It wasn't for us. No. It wasn't for

us. Nah, nigga, I'm from there. My roots is from over there. Hey, nigga, please.

I can't spell Fayetteville without a nigga rhyming over the beat. Don't try to make

me say it and sound cool. Also on the let out, like the let out,

I like, it's cool, Bob, but just for the let out, like for the let

out, I can see them playing that in North Carolina at the let out. I

can't. Just on some, when R&B used to come on at that moment, but Yeah,

man. I don't know. I don't know. Good project. Good project. Go J. Cole. I'm

happy for him, man. I'm happy for that guy. All right. Come on. Come on.

Let's have some fun. Let's have some fun.

This is kind of still on music. It's definitely fun. Y'all see Glorilla sibling?

Yes. Yes. I did. Definitely. I did. I did. I saw the interview. Apparently,

she's not happy with the amount of support they're getting from GLOW financially. Yeah.

and they went on TMZ about it. That's fucked up, first of all. Very. Stevens,

that you feel that your sister has an obligation to share the

wealth. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she got an obligation to share the wealth. We stay here,

we struggle together. Took baths and baths of water, rest broaches, all that. Yeah, she

obligated them friends, obligated. She doing everything for them. So yeah, yeah, I

feel like I'm obligated. What is it you think she's not doing for the family?

What is the... You make it sound like there's a real financial hardship. Describe what

you're talking about. She's not doing nothing. Nothing. She's not doing nothing for

family. She do little oohs and ahs for her parents

or whatever, but barely nothing because my mama's still clocking the clock at FedEx. She

don't want to worry. Gloria got y'all believing this. as imaginary as

thing where she retired them. No, she did not. My dad retired because his time

was up. She was supposed to have retired my mama, but she didn't. My mama

still clocking the clock at FedEx. Why does she owe it to you to support

you and to support the family beyond what she wants to do? It's her money,

right? Because don't go on interviews talking about how I struggle.

You want to do that. That's not right. You don't sit here and talk about

struggling, you're not one sibling, you got nine other siblings. This clip is long, so

I'm gonna fast forward to the end. She got plenty other . All right, we

got it. Let me go to the end, because this is important. ...of that, does

she owe to you... Hold up. ...that Jaguar was not actually, she didn't actually give

him a Jaguar? There was nowhere near you. What evidence do you have of that

brand? There's an Instagram video. And of course, She gonna try to make it look

good for y'all. I did over here broke as a mother right now. Let's say

she has $2 million. How much of that does she

owe to you and the rest of the family of that 2 million? She

can get out of it like 2,500 a piece. How much? 2,500. 2,500, like

how, for, that's it? Just 2,500 flat or is that? 2,500. I

think she would jump at that. If that's all you want, I think Glow might

jump at that. But imagine her being on for four years and not giving us

zero. None at all. What does your mom think about you? I cut it off.

Bro. Distinguished panel. Bro. That's you guys. First of all, they look so much alike

that it was fucking me up. Because she is... She appears to be like a

lesbian, like she dressed like a guy a little bit or whatever. I don't want

to sue him, but I checked her Facebook. She gay. And she looks just like

a gorilla. She just look a little older than her, a little thicker than her.

So that's the first motherfucker. And the second one is like when it finally hit

me that, oh, this baby a little slow. You know, like she's talking to Harvey

and them on TMZ like she talking to the Facebook Live. Like she's assuming that

Harvey follows Gorilla and know that she posted that she retired them people and all

that. Like she talking like she made a conversation. And then with the 2500, the

baby ain't do the math. And then it's it. If the bitch got $2 million,

how much would you want? And I guarantee y'all that when she got done with

that interview, somebody called her and said, and broke it down to her, and then

it hit her like, maybe I should have said $25,000. You know? She's slow. At

the end of the day, I would believe it more if another sibling came out.

It's only one. And the thing is, this is all, like, debatable because some people

feel like you owe your family. Some people don't. I don't feel like you owe

them motherfuckers nothing. She's too young to have to take care of them people. You

know what I mean? Please. I could not disagree more with

your assertion that they resemble each other.

Let me just talk. They maybe did.

Hey, I'm sure there was a time when you was seven and she was

eight and y'all both was just bad bilk. Bad

jawlines and just dumb looking in the face together in Wichita or wherever the

fuck. Where they was at? They were in Memphis. Oh, they was in Memphis. Oh,

so yeah. When y'all was seven and eight, I could see you both looking at

each other like, yo, we is some ugly motherfuckers. I could see that back in

the day. I'm not saying I'm saying that because I think Gloriel is beautiful. Of

course. I think Gloriel is beautiful. But... I want to spend some time on the

loser sibling and their point of view for me. At some point,

one of us, one of us is going to say, you know what? I don't

want to live like this no more. I don't want to be ugly. I don't

want to look like this no more. I want ass. I want some tits. I

want a ball player. I want to leave this trailer home That we in.

And I'm tired of opening my bedroom door and looking at the loser bitch version

of me with no ambition, no goals,

no way a trailer home was going to always be in the loser siblings

future. Niggas that got siblings out there, You was in the same crib. You know

what it is when you know your sibling was going to be a loser for

the rest of life and you was going to glow up. So that's what happened.

They don't look alike at all. Glow is chilling. Glow glue up?

Glow glowed up. Fam, no, no, no. And Harvey Weinstein

know better than to go find Harvey Weinstein. Harvey Weinstein. Harvey Weinstein. What's his name?

Harvey from TMZ. You knew that you was going to put the phone or the

Zoom on the loser siblings. See, and topics like these trigger me.

Because I've had siblings calling the radio stations or niggas

call them to try to get some dirt. And I'd be like, dog, of course

that's going to be their version of the story. Hey. Hey, this motherfucker got lit,

got rich, never helped mom, never helped dad, the whole family hate him. Hey, all

that can be true. But guess what? Is that sibling lit right now? And are

family members hitting them for a helping fucking hand when the mechanic bill costs more

than you thought? You fucking right to hitting Glorilla. Stop it. I didn't pay the

story no mind after Glorilla posted the a text from her mother that said, daughter.

Hey, yo, and when you're not the loser sibling, the parents text you different. Facts.

Facts. Sorry. Sorry. I hope I'm not offending anybody out there. The winner

sibling, the mom and dad is hitting like, yo, you held it down for me

this month. Thank you, yo. I'm so proud of you. You became everything I thought

you would and more. The whole family is appreciative of you. Yo, Sarah would be

in such a bind if you didn't come through and yada, yada, yada. That's what

the text looked like. Once Glo posted that, I didn't want to hear from the

sibling no more, but my girl sent me 2,000 memes a day that don't have

nothing to do with the busiest day in the world that I'm having with work,

so I have to know about this stupid-ass story with the sibling. You know what

I found interesting? The blogs found an old DV where the sister,

Studmaster 3000, is arrested for threatening Gloria with a pistol. So they've had

issues in the past. And this is the thing. It's nine of them. It's

always been a story that they come from a very religious background. Gloria's name is

Gloria Hallelujah. If I'm not mistaken, one of the parents are like a member of

the church, like a deacon or something. So I'm just thinking in my head. Don't

brush right by that. What's this little thing? Hey, wait, loser sibling. Scarface. They

call her Scarface. Figure that for me. Hey, loser sibling. Your sister's

name from Rip when y'all both was bumming was Gloria

Hallelujah, bitch. That's a fact. What did you think the future was about to play

out like? What's this bitch's name, Sam or something? Scarface. Scarface. But girl, please. Victoria

Woods is a real name. Oh, you was about to lose. Anybody, the parents tried

to make victory be in your name. They didn't see a bright future for you.

Sometimes the parents could spot it right out the womb. Who's going to be the

loser sibling and who's going to be the winner sibling? Honestly. That's what they're going

to do. Now, I'm sorry if I'm triggering people out there that have, like, beats

with their parents because they were the loser sibling at some point. But... Some of

y'all siblings are absolute losers. We knew you wasn't getting no record deal, girl. You

wasn't about to save us. You wasn't about to change the fucking generational curse. You

could barely make grits. She probably... Fucker, you talk... What the fuck was she talking

about? And then they get all the way to the end and they ask her,

what would you have needed? 2,500. As soon as I heard that 2,500, I said

Joe fucking button. Because he just said that. Like, I'm telling y'all 2,500 to get

it done. That might be my offer rate for everything from here on out. I

keep telling y'all every day I come to work, 2,500. I say that shit like

the numbers that barely hit the fucking lottery with. Rest in peace to Bailey. 2,500

dollars is all you need. And y'all be trying to sibling me to death because

that word should make us feel warm and cozy inside. Guess what? Hey, Some of

y'all, we hate y'all. Siblings. We siblings. We wasn't close in the house.

And we ain't pick you or have you. Nigga, we was in there about to

kill each other whenever mom went to work. What the fuck are you talking about?

Of course I blew up and didn't give you a penny. Shit, it was lit

until you got here. Did you think I was going to blow up and give

you a penny? Facts. I know you judge me. He don't have siblings. He

can't relate. It's the, yeah, you get spewed up, nigga. Yeah, nigga. How do you

feel about your uncle? That's how niggas feel about they fucking people. Even when you

really see the chain of events when Scarface goes live, she mad as shit. It

almost gives she just asked her for something. And then when she goes live, she's

like, I'll expose your favorite rapper. So it's like, now you threatening me with it.

It's just corny. Oh, you done get it done. Not a lot of people. She

wasn't getting it before this. And not a lot of people in our position would

ever cosign shit like this because what's going on in the family ever constitutes you

doing an interview. Like if you work at FedEx and you work at Target, why

the fuck are you talking to TMZ? Why do you have a cell phone? How

are you paying this, you broke, bumped? The loser sibling, you be so shocked when

they make small accomplishments. I got my license. Yo,

I got my license together. You be like, oh, look at you. You did that.

Look at you. That's true, though. The loser sibling. The loser sibling been locked up

your whole life. 30 years later, we got to celebrate because they in a hospital

now. Patient escort. Hey, you know Jack got out of there. He in a home.

Wait, what? That's crazy. Hey, all I know is Jack's been out of my life

for 45 years. Loser sibling. Come on. Y'all don't want to... This fucking triggers me.

I ain't going to. You can tell. I can tell. No, but it really is

sick. It really is gross. It is. And it's like, you know, if it's a...

criminal thing. Like, you know, like, the police had to come and break up a

sibling fight. That girl been jealous of her probably, you know what I mean, forever.

These little issues probably went on when they was kids. I mean, Or she could

have been fucked up to her sister her whole life. Or she could have looked

her sister out. She looks older than her. I just assumed. People always forget all

you do once you tell them no. We ain't gonna tell her what she done

did for her. That's a fact. Especially after posting the text for moms, whatever. You

don't know how many times you don't look that little sister out. But now I'm

saying no right now. She said nothing. She said zero. And that's what happens. It

becomes nothing. It becomes nothing. You'll be as good as your last yes. Because Glow

Real Friends came out too and started talking now. Saying what? I didn't see that.

more now. I told y'all that my girl communicates through me.

And she produces. She does produce for this part so let me not shit on

her. Shout out to my baby. Hey audience any of them girly sassy ass topics

that I bring up that y'all call me gay for is really from my girl

and I think it's entertaining for the female audience. That's a good cover.

But the friend says bitch where you was at when Glow was homeless. Oh Where

you was at when gloating have two rocks to rub together and needed to stay

on somebody's couch? Where was all the siblings and the family then? See, that's what

I'm talking about. They was broke too. Yeah. Marco here with that shit. I might

have been on somebody else's couch. You know the other bad thing about making it?

It all goes back to the J. Colob. You could see the missteps

people beneath you. Sometimes you walk up to them and you try to help them.

Sometimes you knowing with your bright future and your potential and all of your, you

got the brightest future. You go to the loser sibling and try to help them

out one day because you feel bad. Hey, what's up with that food truck? I

know you wanted to be a chef. What's up, man? Loser sibling say some

loser shit to you like, ah. I just don't even know anymore, man.

I don't know. I just want to go to the parking place. Don't insult me

with no food truck. Lose a sibling, say something. I just need so much money,

but I ain't taking it from you. I get it on my own. So it's

going to take me 11 years to get that. And then once I get it,

I'm going to park it down. Yo, you're looking at the loser like, oh, you

don't want help. Oh, okay. He is crazy. Okay. All right.

Good luck. Good luck. I always got a grand idea that's stupid as shit. The

loser sibling won't call you. You're day busy as... Listen, what you think about putting

a plate on a tire? Like a rim, but cheaper to produce.

You could eat off of it, like for the nigga damn side that's into the

car. Call it Don and Dash. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You be looking at your loser

siblings. Stop coach out of this shit, man. It's true. He's absolutely right. It's fucking

true. It's from your side. It's not just siblings. The worst ideas known to men

is your cousins. What Cole told him? We give him the soup for free. random

spoons like this. You didn't even know that your mother fucker was

such a loser because you don't even really kick it with them until that one

day you was free that afternoon. I tried to have a little talk with him.

You'd be like, oh, shit. Yo, you are dumber than me and mom

even thought. You try not to tell them that you and mom that you help

me and your parents You are a complete idiot.

You holding the family back a little bit. And they always super entrepreneurial. I can't

work for people. I'm not that kind of person. I can't work for the white

man. I can't work for the white man. Nah, yeah, nah, we ain't lending you

shit, nigga. We ain't lending you nothing. The loser sibling, I can see the loser

sibling had a boyfriend before GLOW. Nah, niggas. She is the boyfriend. She was 16.

She is. She's the boy. That girl been one of them for her whole life.

You could tell. She dug in in the community. Nigga gonna rewrite the HR book.

She got face tacks. You know what I mean? The fade. That's fade. Ain't nobody's

judging her for it. It's just, she's just gross. It's gross in general. She sound

jealous because another thing she kept saying, that's probably why the friend said something. It's

a response. She said something to them first. She kept saying, what you do for

them friends, you do for them friends, it's just jealous shit. Some people are friends

with their family. I don't know. I see it different. I mean, I don't know

what happened in their family because every family different, right? So... comes some maturities. You

know what happened. It happened to every black family. It happened to your family. It

happened to everybody's family. Everybody's family got this. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, I

don't know. 95% of black families, if it ain't you, it's your uncle's set of

kids. It's your aunt's set of kids. You know to lose a kid in your

family. Yes, you do. But if you're really good, they just find out you are

said loser kid. You may be him. If you can't find a loser, you're it.

Yeah. I get that. But, like, unless we got beef or some shit happen, I

do feel like I owe you something. as my sibling ain't no way we grew

up together and I'm got money you homeless or you want to couch some shit

and I got millions I'm giving you something I think it's I think that is

it's admirable that you wouldn't let your sibling get to that point but I don't

think you owe them that well let me ask y'all a question do you owe

your mom let's assume Scarface is right do you owe your mom to retire her

if you can afford to do it does she want to work still She working

at FedEx in Memphis. Don't nobody want to work at FedEx. The headquarters. Ain't no

telling what she do there, one. And two, she might stay, have that job for

some good fucking benefits. She might not necessarily want to retire. What she does there

is very important in this conversation. It's important, bro. Memphis is the main hub. Parents

be hard at it, dude. They be like, I'm not moving from this crib. I'm

not leaving my job. I'm not leaving this senior system at all. And there's another

part that we overlooking. Who say she got all this money? I was just about

to. Exactly. That's why. Well, she has $2,500. She has $2,500. She has

to give all nine the $2,500. She has to afford one off of $2,500. Yeah.

But just that's the thing. It's never a one-off. The 2,500, that expires in the

summer. In the summer, she forgets that it happened and now I need something else.

She could have gave her the 25 before. We don't know. But if she didn't,

do you feel like she should? If she didn't, what she have to do is

use the same lie that I've been telling everybody. Yes, you in my will.

Oh, that's good. Yo, you think I look niggas dead. Yo, you think I ain't

take care of you? Niggas going to be surprised. When I'm gone, millions of niggas.

And you're going already now. Oh, I'm using that. Oh, my kids. No, dead ass.

Seriously. I don't care about your will, nigga. I need money today. Will you pay

me now? No, nigga, off you today. No, I will not. Nigga, off you today.

So it doesn't matter how your sibling ass. I get it, dude. Counterpoint. Good point.

Say less. Does it matter how your sibling ass? Like if your sibling comes willing

title, you still give it to them? No. No. I would want to less. I

probably, yeah, it would affect how I think about it. But I'm saying at the

core, I feel like I owe him something. To my parents, I definitely do. Again,

if you got good parents, if your parents beat you or put you out or,

you know what I mean, snitched on you, I get it, it's different. But if

you have regular parent-kid relationship, yeah, I think your parents, if you can afford for

your parents not to work, you should retire. If the sibling is going to leave

streaks on my windshield after they clean it, then don't bother with it. Don't bother.

They ain't got the good squeegee? Yeah. If you don't have that. The old shit?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The old shit that don't even really. Because it's a hand, it's

a wrist movement that you got. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you can't get that. They

ain't got the snap. Then I'll just give you the money. You ain't got it.

Go ahead. And I have a question for all of y'all. What's up, Big Mona?

Because I have siblings, but they weren't raising me. My dad had kids later, right?

Okay. If mom should be retired, right? Should mom be the one that tell

Gloria that? Or do the siblings get together and say, yo, why you ain't retiring

mommy? Right. You know what I mean? Like, can she come out and complain that

mom didn't get retired? I feel like retiring to parents is more expensive than people

are playing together. For sure, it works. But I'm just saying, is that cool as

a sibling to represent mom in that way and speak for them like, yo, you

know mommy ain't going to say it, but that's fucked up. You ain't retired mommy.

Is that like your job as a sibling? I think the biggest piece is because

somebody see you on TV, they automatically just be like, oh, you rich. Facts. and

that's not the case. Thanks. Well, me. Yeah, they think that about us. Like, yo,

dog. No, not with the boosters talk, right? Who think y'all rich and y'all still

getting vacuums from boosters? Bro. Like, somebody could look at your lifestyle and see that

y'all are not rich. Don't walk into it. Ignore it. Yo, niggas get Rolexes from

boosters. Did you get yours from a booster? I did not. Did you get yours

from a booster? I don't have one. Okay. I don't think nobody in y'all life

is looking at y'all like y'all super up, though. I would buy a Rolex from

a booster. That seems risky. I would have to get it like a praise and

some shit. You got a laugh at this. He is crazy, bro. This nigga's cool,

yo. Like, this nigga's crazy. Yo, it be tough to keep his favorite. I'm great,

though. You are. I'm great. It's fun, yo. He is crazy, bro. No, but answer

the question, y'all. Is that normal for one of the siblings to speak for mom?

Yes. Yes. I think it depends on the relationship. Thousand percent. But the loser sibling

can't because you don't really know how mom feels. That's not true. Not the loser

sibling. Damn. They might be around mom more. They're the ones that are closest to

them. But mom ain't complaining to them. They ain't living at home. But mom's not

complaining to them if they can't help. Mom's not telling them the truth. They can't

help. Listen to this. Mom's telling them we gonna be all right. Mom's telling the

good sibling the truth. Let's just say hypothetically, you had a sister or brother that

lived at home with mom that was the loser, right? And they see your mother

busting her ass. They see your mother getting on the bus. They see your mother...

back hurting and really struggling out here to make ends meet and you might be

up 20, 30, 40 M's. That's what the loser sibling do. Walk mommy to the

bus stop. Yeah. Go get some of them bags. You got it. I'll get you

a sibling and drop her off to work. You're right big dog. You're right big

dog. Are you fucking shitting me? I know the mom is mortified though. I feel

bad for mom. That sucks. Or she's like, yeah, you fucking this up. I was

just about to finally get some bread from Glow and now you did this. because

Glo's responding, like Glo made her picture, because the daughter, because loser sibling must

have got a job at FedEx with mommy, so Glo really used her sister's picture

with the FedEx outfit and then put it on her Facebook, and the caption is

indeed.com. You do a lot of Facebook action. Yo, if you confused out there about

if you may or may not be the loser sibling, if your mother got you

the job, It's true. You're an idiot.

Hey, if wherever you were, mom put in a few calls, it's you.

niggas had to call in a favor mom was worried about you for like mom

ain't wanna go to a grade worried about one kid one kid doing good there's

another one now come on call Verizon come on come on call come on he

just going through some tough times right now that's crazy oh shit oh shit

stupid oh my god shout out to Glorilla sister man if I'm Glorilla I'm never

speaking to shorty again yeah I'm gonna go hang out shit I'm making it

worse. You know what else about the loser sibling? She pulled a pistol on her

back in the day, bro. We're going to move on from this because I'm too

triggered. But the loser sibling don't even know that the sibling with a record

deal probably is paying the mortgage or the rent, Thanksgiving,

gross. It's so much that the loser sibling don't even know is happening because you're

a loser. The loser sibling went to borrow money from moms. And mom ain't have

it. Mom go get it from GLOW. No, mom didn't have it at the time.

So now, loser sibling got mad at GLOW because mom ain't had the money. That's

what that, I'm not getting it. No, and that's the other, he's right. The loser

sibling's going to mom to get money. Mom's coming to GLOW to get money, so

the loser sibling thinks she should get it from mom. I know, but I'm just

saying, now I'm mad at GLOW because mom ain't, oh, sorry. Now I'm mad at

GLOW because mom don't have it this time. Right. Lastly, this is my very last

thought on the loser sibling shit. don't want to do this whole segment and just

shit on loser siblings without giving them some advice. I'm part of the problem if

I only talk about the problems and not the solution. Oh my God. Loser siblings.

Very important how you time your makeup with your superstar sibling.

I think this stud face lady timed this horribly. Glorilla is

is on Grammy nominations and probably 10 to 12 hit singles in. Know

when you should have been plotting this move? Do you got a Walkman? You got

an iPod? Let me tell you when you should have planned this. Whoa! I'm going

right in that room. Yo, you need your sneakers cleaned. You need your laundry done.

Yo, when you put your ear to the hallway and heard your fucking sister in

the other room doing this. Look, let me tell you how it sounded, too. You

heard it. That's how it sounded in the memory. Yeah. That's how it sounded, right?

He was like, yo, what? At this point is when you should have been playing.

When your hallway was shaking off this shit, listen. That's stupid. That bitch was too

busy hating, I promise. She changed the game that summer. Man, we had a great

summer. What a time. Real shit. What a time. In the fucking maxima.

Shout out to you fucking loser siblings out there, man. While I'm on the topic

of losers, I went home the other day and saw that Corey Holcomb still had

my name in his mouth. I'm really so confused about that with all the controversy

he's been caught up in lately. Corey Holcomb, you don't fight well enough to

do this with me. Like, we have video with you. You're not smart enough to

do this with me. strong enough, big enough, fast enough to do none of this

you talking about with me. We saw you with the homie Anton. He asked you

to walk outside and you remained stationary, Corey Holcomb. Please keep my name out of

your mouth and don't take anything I'm saying as like a threat to you. I

wouldn't plan on doing nothing when I see you. Actually, if I saw you and

we were breathing the same airspace, I would take it as a threat to me,

a threat from God, a threat from life that we even in the same fucking

circumference nigga. Corey Holcomb, your fall from disgrace has been one that

should be studied from kind of funny to kind of bummy to I'm just the

dummy. You over there struggling. You look a sandwich away from welfare. You dusty

dog shit in the face looking motherfucker boy. Corey Holcomb, I can't believe that you

are engaging this way when you fight that way. Honestly, it's over. You over

there just lonely and poor. You're co-hosts look bad, not the woman, I'm not talking

about her. Everything over there look bad. I know you down bad, because you on

a Costco table, pardoned in front of a fake plant that appears to be dying.

You failed at fatherhood, you hate yourself, you hate your daughter, your daughter hates you,

you failed at Fatherhood, finances, you failed at funny, your pod sucks, you failed at

fodder. You just a failure all around the board. And don't forget the original point.

You don't fight well enough to do none of this with nobody. So prayers up

to Corey Holcomb. We're not going to go back and forth in an exchange because

I just don't feel the need to do that with you. I was just shocked

to see that you still had a voice over there. Damn. You should have did

that over the ether beat. No, man, please. For Corey. Corey over there, no shape

up, a dusty derby. Corey looked like, he looked like Grand List Puba.

Grandless poobah. Corey over there looking like the store runner for a black biker gang.

Corey looked like he covered in just warts and scabs. Corey looked ashy yet damp.

Like, there's no reason why. He shouldn't have the time for a back and forth

with nobody right this second. It looked bad. It looks bad. It looks bad over

there. And that's before he started losing all these gigs because of that video that

came out. So, prayers up to you, my brother. You're going to need it. What

else we got going on? I don't even know how to transition from that. Not

at all. Who else I need to talk to? There's a few niggas I've been

needing to talk to. I've just been letting it linger for a little bit. Do

another one. Do another one? Yeah. Who? Who else on your mind? You got a

little mental list? I have a list. I have a list, but... On my list,

because I'm so good hearted, I try not to really talk about people that I

know for a fact hate themselves because there's nothing that I can say or do.

The job is done already. Like, so I would I normally wouldn't talk to Corey

Holcomb. I don't talk to. Because I know that's how he heals. He heals from

engagement and being in close proximity to. celebrities and I'm a celebrity so it's no

point in wasting time to do that I can't make niggas hate themselves more than

they already do his dad hates him because he sucked dick and he's watched countless

men go in and out of his mom's room as she was selling pussy to

support him but prayers up to you another one I'm praying for all you niggas

I just had to get that out of the way so sorry but I mean

just a little light little pow pow let niggas know I did indeed what they

had to say and it's important because when you're going back and forth with gay

niggas really like what do I look like I can't go back and forth with

a gay nigga as an ally and an advocate for that community offend some other

people trying to diss one person that's not in my heart and I don't really

speak like this because I believe in the power of words and karmic retribution but

sometimes some of these niggas deserve it man so that's going to be the end

of that and if it's not then we'll get into that other tea out there

about you being an old Niners fan you like Steve Young boy that's right

That's right. Old Niners fan. I ain't talking football. What you think? That tea

don't come my way about the pay for play with the young boys out there?

You know Steve Young. Y'all know Steve Young, one of the greatest Niners quarterbacks of

all time, right? I don't watch football. Ah, got it, got it. Me either. He

was the quarterback right after Joe Montana, man. So, you know what I mean? All

is well out there, but peace and love. Peace and love. You can't end that

with peace and love. Peace and love to everybody. I be chilling, man. But niggas,

I think niggas think because, I mean, I be chilling that shit. And you inspired

me with DeBron McKnight shit. So sometimes I got to come in and let niggas

know I'm standing on business. I heard that shit you said. We're not going back

and forth. It's not going to be exchanged. But here's what I think about a

few things. That's all. Well, all right. Here at the Joe Button Podcast, we like

to keep it positive. We like to keep it full of love and light. All

about high vibrations. frequencies love and light building in Lincoln come on

man stop playing you built a Lincoln what

why why

Yeah. Congratulations on the Shannon Sharpe interview. Hey! An entertaining watch. Yeah,

man. I was watching that shit looking at how mature I was. I said, I

can't wait to get to work and be immature. Yeah. That was a good interview.

I don't usually watch too much YouTube stuff for like the whole two and a

half hours or three hours or whatever the interviews be. I watched the whole thing.

It was really, really, it was a really good interview. Thank you, man. Thank you.

Shout out to Shannon. I had a good time. I had a good time doing

it. It was a blast. I watched it. They did the live show. me or

thing. I watched it. It was good. He asked you a couple questions where I

was curious to know which direction you would go. Whether you go high or low.

Whether you play in or not. You kept it matured the whole time. He was

on this media bag. I told y'all I'd be being mature when I'm away from

here. You made up for it today though. You even that shit out. You good.

Quick. On this part? Yes. three minutes ago

maybe not even three all right well come on let's talk about something fun maybe

later on I'll get back to my list do y'all have a list no no

absolutely not nope yes do you have a list of people that no matter

what they say you don't trust it yes yes oh mad people yes yes

For sure. A couple of family members on that goddamn list. But we talking about

celebrities and shit too. Celebrities, the easy one is obviously that. The politicians are easy.

Anything Donald Trump say, I don't care about. True. Any politician say, I don't care.

The last year, I've become increasingly less trusting of Dame Dash. If Dame Dash said,

I'm skeptical. And I love Dame Dash. But after he became the CEO of Revolt,

I started being like, all right, maybe you're not a trustworthy name anymore. And he's

not. Right. CEO of Revolt. Yes. Yes. Wait, so I've been sending money, investor money

for nothing? I don't know. I'm just clarifying that he's not that.

Shit, I want my money back. Don't ask her on it. I was about to

say, you got a revolt? Me? No. You

had a revolt meeting? No. Ask him one more. You almost there. Yeah, yeah.

I just think I be having meetings with all types of motherfuckers. You just said

you had a groundbreaking, earth-shattering, orgasmic meeting yesterday. Orgasmic? I know, so if I start

saying them words, don't think revolt. You might be the new CEO of Revolt.

Groundbreaking, life-changing, earth-shattering, I'm not going to go to Revolt. Here's a little nugget for

you. I might be the new CEO of Revolt. There you go. But if I

start using words like orgasmic, not referring to that. It's not the title I'm referring

to. even though I am excited about 2026. That's why I feel J. Cole, yo.

I'm so excited about all these positive things and literally, there's absolutely nobody to talk

to about it. It is such a lonely, disgusting feeling. Must be tough.

Fuck you. I feel for you. So, yeah. So, you gave

your list. Who else? Anybody else got lists? Who you hear and be like, yeah,

no. I got a few. And some of them, Sorry. Last time I said his

name, he caught Joe. Gane? Gane is on that list. Ross is on that list.

Oh, that's a good one. LeBron is on that list. LeBron's on that list. Fat

Joe is on that list. No disrespect. Sorry. Cali, too. Kiki

Palmer. Kiki Palmer's on that list. I know y'all be trying to shit.

Kiki Palmer is on that list. Blueface is on that list. Krishan is on that

list. Who else? I don't even listen to it. Kevin Gates, another one. Oh,

yeah. Yeah, he been on that list since he started that car with his name.

Yeah, yeah. Britney Renner and her new man. They both on the list. I don't

even know boy. He ain't on the list. How you gonna put him on the

list? Sorry. Carisha. He married Britney. Carisha's on the list. I don't believe a word

Carisha has to say. Sweetie, love you, baby. You're beautiful. Sorry, I don't believe a

word. Well, she don't really say too many words. But even in the songs, I

don't believe her. Sweetie, don't believe it. Sorry. Who else? Who else? Bruno.

See, it's not really a list for me. I don't believe most people. I don't

believe most people. Yeah, that's the problem. Yeah, but some people, I don't believe. Especially

in entertainment. Nothing you say. Especially in entertainment. Why you not going to believe Bruno?

Because he owes some niggas some Spanky? Huh? He's compromised. Mr. Beast. Oh,

yeah. Sorry. None of the streamers, really. Joe don't fuck with Mr. Beast. Mr. Beast,

I don't believe a word or a facial expression. He did shit, though.

He did a lot. He did a lot. Just don't nobody know yet. Mr. Beast

did a lot. How old is Mr. Beast? Who else I don't believe? Orlando Brown.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't believe him at all. Yeah.

That's a good one. How about Soulja Boy? Or niggas from Orlando, too. He be

right a lot, though. Niggas from Orlando. A dude from Orlando

is sketchy. You want women and older people to be from Orlando, but a dude

from Orlando that's like in our age range, if he's from there, I don't believe

one word he has to say. That's fair. Shout out to Orlando. It's regions. It's

like that. Niggas in Vegas. I don't land in Vegas and be like, yeah, no,

no, no, no, no. Yeah, no, no, no. Yeah, no, not at all. Not at

all. The niggas, when you land internationally in some of them spots where as soon

as you land, they got every drink available to be made. Nah. Nope. Sorry.

Ain't trusting y'all neither. A lot of that international shit is on the list. Who

else? Pyramid Scheme niggas, whoever was involved. Spectacular from Pretty

Ricky. Not a single word that he has to say. Not one word that Spectacular

could be a great guy. Sorry, I don't believe it. Raz from B2K. Sorry.

Sorry. Nah, I believe him. He don't really talk. He just be with his baby.

Bow wow. Sorry. Another one. I'm not.

That's another one on my list. That's a good one. That's a lot of these

niggas. I don't believe anybody. No, but some of these niggas, the list is more

of like, who do you believe in? Just write it down anyway. You write it

down, but hey, y'all know I don't believe her. I don't believe. Absolutely. I don't

believe her, publicist, her stylist. I don't believe nobody that worked for her. You

think I couldn't help it? No, but write it down so they don't know what

I'm talking about. Let's see. Stefan Diggs. Sorry. Sorry.

Sorry. Who else? James Harden? Anything he got to say is a lie. Yeah, I

left the Clippers because I wanted to help them rebuild and get draft picks. I

know, buddy. You're a liar. I'm done. I'm done with you. I think we would

be surprised to learn. I think we would be shocked to learn how many lies

come across our radar daily. A lot. That's real.

What percent you think of lies? Think of the whole news. Half. Half. 80% of

the news I think is fair. I'm going way higher than half, B. Yeah. I'm

85. You might be right. Niggas be getting lies off. Yeah. Niggas be getting lies

off. That's why you wake up the lie. Niggas get lies. Who up here gets

the most lies off? Hopefully me. Joe. Hopefully me. That's not what on air, because

it makes for great pod entertainment, the consensus answer would probably be me. You agree?

In real life, not so much. so much. In real life, it's probably a

different answer. Who's Jansen in real life? Somebody on their couch.

Who? There ain't too many people on the couch. I know. I want to know

what the fuck you're talking about. Pick one. You pick one. It's your choice. I

don't think there's a wrong answer. Oh. Anybody that's seated on that couch, I can

put all my poker chips to the middle of the table. Niggas be lying. Listen,

I made a mistake and was on my baby's Instagram the other day. Peeking

through. She posted a text exchange that her son, the football star, sent her.

And it warmed my heart, but it didn't. It was a text exchange that said,

Mom, playing games he was asking to cook some food and she was like yeah

I'll get to it and he was like yo you playing around in 10 years

I'm gonna retire you you be grateful and watch how you speak to me and

that warmed my heart because every young kid has that dream

of retiring their mother but I had that same dream I remember one month but

you get some money you run into some money you wanna buy your parents a

house you wanna retire you wanna retire your mom but what though

Keep going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You better not.

So I hit DM. You DM him? Her. OK. Because he might think she got

a job. I knew it. That's where he was going.

Retire from what? I can't DM him. I hit her and say, hey,

quick question. Hey.

What do you think you do, baby? I knew it. That

bad? Yes. What's he saying? That's my baby. This nigga's

terrible, son. Oh, he's going to retire me.

Oh, shit. Oh, my God, bro. Oh, man. Oh, shit. What y'all want to talk

about? You just threw fucking hand grenades for an hour straight. Wait, that bad.

Oh, I love you, baby. That's funny. I love my girl. That was

funny. I mean, what do we think? She don't. Any post office?

Mona. Like, anyway. LaRussell. LaRussell. LaRussell, if you're

unfamiliar with LaRussell, LaRussell is, or he was the independent act.

King Indy. Huh? King Indy. Yeah. King Indy out there in L.A. Really good guy,

good spirited, was championing independence and kind of taking his fans and audience along the

journey of what it looks like to truly be independent. He was giving out jewels.

He was giving out knowledge. And he was being very transparent about some of the

deals that were coming across the table. He was like, yo, this is why I

wouldn't accept this deal as an independent. Why would I? Yada, yada, yada, yada. He

even did that for Roc Nation. He got a clip out there that says Roc

Nation sent me a contract. It said X, Y, Z. I would never do such

a thing. Recently, he's been selling his project for $1,000 and up. Kyrie

Irving purchased one for $11,000. Somebody else purchased one for however many thousand. And he

was running a campaign that said, hey, y'all, I'm trying to sell 100,000

copies independently of my new project in 30 days. I thought that was the flyest

shit ever. He turns right around in this same campaign and announces that he

is signed to Roc Nation. which was met with mixed reviews

because of what he has stood on for so long. So I'm asking you guys

how y'all feel about it. Is it Roc Nation distribution? Yeah, I was going to

say, does that mean he's not independent? Not now. Oh, okay. Not now. Remember, Roc

Nation is everything now. Oh, true. Okay. So just so I can clarify a question.

So by signing Roc Nation, you are by definition no longer independent. I don't want

to get into the murky water of what is independent. It's a semantic thing. Versus

what is not. And I think there's a world where he could be

partnered with Roc Nation and still be independent. Let me just... I think what

some of the fans are saying is the optic of it, and even if this

deal is whatever you say, it looks and feels like

undermining the road that we've been on with you and everything that you've stood for

even if you're still independent now now it's tougher to believe it's tougher to believe

you when you say I'm trying to sell a hundred thousand copies of my album

in 30 days because there's been for over 10 years now there's been labels that

have done the inorganic thing by trying to make it look organic yeah so it's

just tougher to believe I get that now and And honestly, I mean,

if you're asking me my opinion, which no one has, why'd you do that? Why'd

you do that? I might get an answer. Why did you do that? As a

fan, why mute up? Why?

Why? I'm not saying there's not an answer to that. Okay. I'm saying when people

ask the why, it will appear that you have had...

It looks to me, I'll just talk to me as a casual fan. It looks

like you have had so much success independently as a brand new act out there

grinding and preaching a good word. You've done this and I can't name one of

your songs. True. That's part of why. That's part of the not why. See,

and that's two people looking at the same thing, pulling different opinions. I totally get

the mindset of, hey, I would like some help. I'm tired of spending out of

pocket money. I'm tired of being alone. I would like some of my songs to

be heard. And I get all of that. But if you've had so much success

without a hit song, why would you do it now? What is so much success?

Your idea of what so much success is and maybe what he wants success for

himself could be two totally different things. He could have literally, I've seen people do

this where I've gotten as far as I can on my own to what they

believe. I hit the ceiling. And now to get to that next level, need some

shit that I can't get. I can speak. Hold on. Let me fuck with him

for a little bit. Then you can't ask me. Can I go first? Okay. I

agree with what he's saying. But if you stood on a platform of fuck the

label, fuck the label, fuck the label, and you're telling all these little niggas under

you, fuck that label, fuck that label, fuck that label, then for you to now

go jump ship and go sign with the same label that you dissed not too

long ago, he said, yo, Roc Nation is some bullshit. They offered me a predatory

deal. I won't ever fuck with them. So now for you to go sign to

Roc Nation, you basically... against everything you stood for. You betraying the little niggas

that could have potentially signed a deal and you fought for them not to sign

a deal. Now, two things with that. Maybe they could have given you a predatory

deal initially. And now they did. Because now he's saying, or I could have grinded

so hard independently that I've gained a little bit more leverage to now have a

different conversation with them. Because he did... Well, hold on, let me just... He did

come out to say in this deal, he owns all his masters, he owns all

his publishing. Okay. So... In that sense, this is where to answer your question, Mark,

that what is independent versus what isn't independent. A lot of people stand on the

side of if I own everything, if I own my master's, I own my publishing,

I own all my shit, I'm independent. Now, other people feel like, yeah, but you're

not independent because, yeah, you have a machine. You actually were able to sign to

a machine. I get that. And that's always murky because there are ways to

incentivize a business partnership while retaining ownership. Mm-hmm.

there's plenty of ways for that to happen, so I get that argument. What I'm

saying is this. Nobody can feel like they've taken it as far as they

could take it if we don't know a song. That'll never be true.

But I'm not getting no younger. I've been doing this for how many years? My

plan isn't... You cannot surmise... that you've taken it as far as you can take

it if we don't know a song. That will always be true. And for Roc

Nation or any company for that matter to come back to you knowing that

fact, well, what do they see? What do they see and why do they see

it so early? See, because I think this is early. If he were to do

this in three to five years, I think the

tone is different. long as he's been active. I'm not familiar with his start. I

don't know. He's been around a few years. He's been around a few years. But

no matter how long you've been around, if you are a musician, independent or not

independent, you know what the name of the game is? Get a song that somebody

knows. 2018 was his first, at least on Apple Music. Oh, that's early. This is

early. Can I add something, fellas? Also, to your success point, right? Like,

can't speak to what that is because I don't know what his definition of success

is versus mine. It's his to tell. As an independent, when you get to the

point where you are selling your music for when Nipsey sold his shit for $100

and everybody said he was crazy. Somebody else did it too. But when you get

to the point where you're able to sell your music for $1,000 and

celebrities are not only pulling up to purchase it, but they're posting about it and

getting an active campaign for you going... I mean, that wouldn't be the time that

I would be signing anywhere. Anywhere. But you know what's funny? You mentioned Nip. And

he did it. After doing the Proud to Pay campaign with Crenshaw for the $100

tape, doubling back with mailbox money for the $1,000 tape, guess what he goes and

does? You guessed it. Signs a licensing deal with Atlantic for Victory Lap. And that

got that album. Now, people who didn't know Nip didn't know a song of Nips.

His core fan base, we knew. I copped the $100 joint. But now once you

put your debut album out, you get a different level of recognition. And he still

kept and owned everything. Well, this is why. For me, that's a false parallel. And

it's the reason why I say in three to five years, if LaRussell did that,

then I don't have anything to say. Speaking only for myself, I knew plenty of

Nipsey Hussle songs by the time he did that deal. Plenty of them. You're just

saying this early because you don't know any LaRusse music yet. Which means he didn't

get as far as he could have possibly got. That's all I'm saying. Unless he

feels. You can't tell him how to feel. The fact that y'all still don't know

my shit, I want somebody to help me. This to me just looks like a

marketing deal. This looks no different to me than hiring a marketing company as an

independent. If he's still retaining ownership of his masters and his publishing, this is no

different than hiring a marketing company. What's the difference between what you would do as

an independent artist? I can also speak as someone who has released music independently because

shit gets exhausting having to do all that label shit. He might want to just

fucking rap. He might have just saw what Roc Nation did with the clips. Or

that. As a completely, as independent, took our album to you for, licensed it to

y'all for just distribution, and y'all got me everywhere in the fucking world. That would

be a false. I'm just saying, because they had some other cachet involved as well,

but I'm just saying, if I'm watching this company and the rollout that they

had and the movement that they had as Hey, I just licensed the music to

y'all. They still own all that shit. Okay, well maybe let me try it this

way because the way that I've been trying it got me here. I might want

to try something different. Also, I push back with if you just want to rap

then you don't want to be independent. And I was going, bro, you're reading my

mind. Independent means you have a say in all facets of this

and you are responsible for it all. It's not I just want to rap. If

you just want to rap, then I don't have nothing to say to you. But

if you're independent, rapping is probably the... It's not the first, second, or third thing

that you need to be paying attention to. So, I mean, it just gets tricky.

Clearly, I think he did what he wanted to do. So, I'm happy for him.

Yeah, and he's still got ownership. Oh, my God.

It's Park's fault. Yeah, I'm

not trying to talk like... Clearly he did what he wanted to do. So I'm

not looking down on that. But if it were me, and I do understand some

of the criticism that comes along with what's going on. Mona, what's up? What I

was going to say was I don't get why, like, Like, just because he shared

with everybody how nasty the deals that he was being offered and shit, why did

that give anybody an idea that he wouldn't sign or that wasn't a goal? I

feel like the whole time, he always took meetings and he talked about it, but

he shared things. Just like I could remember him going to go do a freestyle,

whether it was flex or off the radar, and they were late and they were

treating him funny, he left. And he told everybody, like, nobody treats me like shit

because they got this big thing. You know what I mean? I feel like y'all

confusing the fact that he shared it even dog and rock nation out with he

would never this never was the goal i think he was always trying to like

sell himself to get the best kind of deal you're talking about he owns shit

that's a pretty good situation so it's like that's where i think la Russell my

nigga la Russell came on the podcast i've fucked with him a couple times went

to la fucked with him it's like i don't think that that was ever not

really the mission i think he would have did it either way but i think

it was always like you know what i mean to get a good deal was

always the goal some people feel like listening to him

seemed like he championed and understood the upside in remaining

independent for a little longer than what has been displayed. And I totally understand that

and agree. And agree with it. I can see him alienating some of his fan

base that were there for the journey. The journey was... Niggas be robbing themselves of

the journey because it's tough. The journey as an onlooker is the fun part to

watch. It's fun to watch you go... the basement to the

studio with Wiz Khalifa to getting your first car to having your first show it's

like having a kid and waiting for the first words and the first steps so

you can't just expedite that and now we in pre-K I mean you're gonna lose

people that's there for the story or I got to the point where again man

I don't want to he don't have the songs to say that but whatever I

got the deal that they offered me ain't this deal So something changed. Y'all offered

me a bad deal, a predatory deal. I came online and talked about it and

said, yo, they trying to here with this deal, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

blah. I would never do this. Something happened between that. That's obvious. And this. I

just assumed to give a 30-year deal. To where now I have what's, to me,

a favorable deal. Yeah. Where I own my shit. Y'all don't own nothing. Y'all don't

got nothing. Y'all are just distributing so we good. I'll give you a prime example.

And a lot of our off-air talk didn't make it because we was having fun

off-air on the last pod. Right, right, right. LaRussell, Jay-Z getting LaRussell to perform in

the parking lot of the Super Bowl is a story that you champion to the

heavens when he's independent. True. Yeah. A thousand percent.

That same story don't look so much the same, not independent, right? That's true.

Answer me. No, it don't look the same. Not at all. It doesn't look the

same. No way it is close to the same. But actually, you shit on that

very same move if you are signed to Roc Nation and now you buy the

Sabret stand by D34 in the parking lot section B. Well, it's not going to

be that. I get what you said. I get the joke aspect of it. But

at the same token, if I'm LaRussell, I don't even get to be a part

of none of this shit if I wasn't here. Now, we don't know what... The

Super Bowl is an all-day event for... It's some pregame shit. It's some

early shit. It's postgame. The Super Bowl's all weekend. No, I'm not missing your point.

I'm looking at it from his point of view. Because if it makes sense to

him, yo, I might not have been able to do this without getting to this

here. I understand that. I understand that. That's him. That's why he signed the deal.

I'm saying that if he were independent and found a Target parking lot to perform

in, the story is going to be greater than this. My point is different than

this. Yo, you've been for years, and I'm not... not insulting the gentleman. You've been

for years saying... Yeah, we fuck with him up here. Yeah, we fuck with who

he is and what he doing and what he... You're preaching a message of independence.

everything that you keep saying is, yo, he couldn't do this, or he felt like

he couldn't do this. And that's the same thing with the niggas that signed to

the label from the rip. They feel like they can't do their own marketing, which

might be exhausting, to your point. They feel like they might can't get my songs

played around the world because I can't go around and pitch my shit to all

of the program directors nationwide. You can't. But that's a part of the struggle of

being independent. So when you tell these little kids, yo, you don't need that, you

don't need that, you don't need that, you basically contradicting yourself by saying, now I'm

going to tap out because it was too too difficult. That's why I was just

going to say, as a fan, I think if you got a different explanation, he

owes it to us. Like even starting to say like, I own my own masters.

Like as a fan who went along for that ride, I need you to tell

me why you made that choice. If I've been riding with you and now it

feels like a contradiction. And that sound, and like I said, to me, that sound,

because I own all my shit still, technically I'm independent. He needs to say more.

I just did some quick math. My brother's got 40 fucking albums on this Apple

albums list. After 40 albums, he has the right to fucking suck. If I make

40 albums and you don't know no songs, it might be time for some help.

I know a couple of them. That didn't help things for me. That didn't help

things for me either. If I made 40 albums independently without y'all, y'all could suck

my dick now. I ain't going to hold you. That almost made it worse for

me. I'm like, if I got 40 and y'all don't know me, I need some

help. Give me some help. Something I'm doing ain't working. Yeah, right. That's not true,

bro. I guess it depends on what level. But it is true. And you should

be able to troubleshoot. If you're champion in the independence, you should want to

troubleshoot that before you get to help me later. Nigga, I'm at album 40. I've

been troubleshooting 40 albums. Stop it, yo. Stop it, yo. And I'm at the same

spot. That's his fault. He's not at the same spot though. He's not at the

same spot. Yeah, that's true. These niggas from California, be clear, they might not have

one song playing on the East Coast. These niggas could tour California all year long

and make $5 million. So don't say he had the spot of a starving young

artist that might only be doing 20, 30 grand. That nigga LaRusso and them, it's

a few artists from LA, I mean from Cali, period, not just LA, that are

making mad fucking money, bro, that we've never heard of and that's not in the

rotation on Power 105 and Hot 97. That's a fact. That don't mean that they

didn't make it or they not doing shit. These niggas is against success. I mean,

I'm so sure. Why does he want something different? The Russell don't make drug dealer

music, fuck bitches, fuck hoes. He don't make us a lot of positive shit. That

shit is not always the big hit song type of music anyway. It's like that

kind of niche thing. It's like positive to Russell. That's the first thing that caught

my... But we're not asking for a big hit from him. We're looking for currency.

But he might want a big hit. We're looking for currency. That's what I'm saying.

We don't know what he want. He might want the big hit. We don't know

what he want. If after 40 hours he won it, let him I'm done with

y'all. I'm with you, but I'm just saying he may want something different. One thing

I would like to know is who was managing you for 40 albums?

His mom. We just up here talking sounding stupid now. If you independent and you

did 40 albums and this is where you land, then by all means, cool. But

that would tell me, all right, changes I can make. changes I can make 40

albums and the world don't know nothing yet. Stop it, yo. Stop it. We just

talking to be talking now. But clearly he wanted to do that and I'm sure

Hov and Roc Nation, again, Roc Nation is an all-in-one hub now. It's management. It's

distribution. It's the label. It's the streaming. It's the live streaming. It's the touring.

It's the all-in-one. So maybe you want to help with all. I'm not judging him.

He's happy. I'm happy. But I think podcasters we get too caught up in

would I have done it would I not have done it everybody gotta live their

life the way that they see fit from this couch I would've done that but

what do I know what else what else what else what else I'm having a

good time y'all want me to go back to my list no no no y'all

got a list no No, we don't need Juggles. All right, so what else we

need? What else we need? What else is important? Everybody can rest easy tonight. I

know y'all worried they found Aaron Hall. They did. They did. I didn't know he

was lost. The young lady was trying to serve Aaron Hall for over a year,

and nobody knew where Aaron Hall was. He fell off the earth. He literally disappeared.

They could not find him at all. Like, had multiple addresses on the East Coast,

West Coast, nothing. They found him in a little motel in Atlanta. Alpharetta. A motel?

A motel in Alpharetta, Georgia. Excuse me, not Atlanta. Yes, Alpharetta. Yeah. He was in

the sticks. He was out there. With a white beard and a duret. What's the

charge that he's trying to get a suit from? It's civil suits for like sexual

misconduct, sexual assault, I think specifically. Yeah, so he was under the radar. So,

and they finally served him. Slipped him papers right into the door. He opened the

door and slammed it in the face. Yeah, he opened the door and said, yo,

I'm here to serve papers for Aaron Hall. What's that? They threw it in there

and slammed the door. Well, I'm super glad that somebody found Aaron Hall. If it

was somebody I know that was not looking for Aaron Hall, you guessed it, it

was Teddy Riley. Teddy Riley, I've been watching a couple interviews. Teddy Riley's supposed to

come up here soon. But I've been watching some interviews that he's been doing, and

Sway asked him straight up, like, listen, man, I see guys going back on tour.

Teddy Riley said no.

That's

how you know you're ill, boy. When you can just pick up two niggas and

keep up the same rate of- Oh, he is going out as guy? Hold up.

Teddy Riley is going out with two new people as God on tour. And that's

how you just know Teddy Riley is the man. I thought you been airing it.

Yeah, shut the fuck up, Far. When you can pick up two niggas that don't

nobody know and still keep the same level and rate of success that you had

previously, you know that person is the man. Come on, y'all. You know Teddy Riley.

Come on, right? Yeah, that's a fact. You an asshole, son. Ice, I don't like

that you be getting my jokes too early. Let my shit bake a little bit

first. I know you, son. I know your mind. You an asshole. Anyway, y'all can

tell you about it, man. Sorry, Parker. And the guys. And the guys. And the

guys. Guys. Guys. Guys. And our guys.

What else is important to y'all? What else are y'all passionate about? I think we

kicking ass this far. Come on. February, we not playing. No, we ain't playing. February,

we ain't playing no games, man. Stop playing with us. What else do y'all feel

passionate about or needs our attention? It's a little sad. Okay. But since we talk

about missing people, I do want to mention Savannah Guthrie's mother-in-law.

Nancy. Nancy. She was missing. She's still missing. But there's

now a ransom note. And they're trying to figure out how to how to navigate

that. And when we say ransom note, because you're hearing this today, we mean yesterday

there was a ransom note that said, if you do not get us however many

million in Bitcoin by 5 p.m., something will be done.

1.47 a.m. Sunday, the doorbell camera was disconnected. At 2.12 a.m., a

camera detects motion, but no video is recorded. At 2.28 a.m.,

pacemaker stopped syncing with cell phone. I would be terrified at that point. Oh, yeah.

And at, damn, I can't see this last time. I want to say that's 12.03

or 23 p.m., reported missing after not showing up at church.

So that has been the string of events. This is disturbing. Yeah,

it is. It's terrifying, man. They're talking about the word on the curb. Police are

saying there are no suspects. The internet is saying there's one suspect. I won't say

because it's irresponsible without any proof or anything. But they're saying there's the brother-in-law.

That's what the internet is saying. Allegedly. There's no facts supporting this. Again, police are

saying there are no suspects. But on the news, they like, dog, if it's a

kidnapping, it's probably a family member. How do y'all feel about that? Probably so. Somebody

that know y'all. Somebody that's close to somebody that got some personal information. Yeah. Because

if you're like an international kidnapper, you're not targeting Savannah Guthrie's mother-in-law. That wouldn't be

like where you'd go. This feels personal. And then asking for Bitcoin seems

smart. That's definitely the thing you want to ask for when you kidnap people. I

don't get that, what y'all saying, tell me. Because the digital currency is really, really

hard to track and you can move it around digitally. I suppose, yeah, cash is

tougher. Okay, I understand that. That makes sense. That makes sense. It's encrypted. That's

literally the point. So that part makes sense. I don't understand. I'm with Mark. Why

would you target this person? Fairly, yeah, this person is... God forbid if any of

you guys were in this situation, let me take it off y'all and just speak

for me. If it were me... Bitcoin would have been out of my account 20

minutes after, 10 minutes after I got this message. Are y'all the type to immediately

pay like me or would you be trying to let the police do something? Specifically

for our mother-in-laws? Who matters? It's her

mother, not her mother-in-law. Oh, I thought it was her mother. They suspect the

brother-in-law. Got it. Got you. Okay. The police don't. The internet don't. I thought it

was the mother-in-law too. Yeah. I thought it was the mother. No, her mother, Nancy.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No. Yeah. There's no amount that I wouldn't pay.

Immediately. But you wouldn't just send the money ASAP. That's not true. Because you have

no guarantees at that point. Like, if I just send the money, that don't mean

I'm going to get my mom back. That don't mean that. You know what I'm

saying? Like, it's still got to be some like. Coordinating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I

would still be sending it to see. I would have the police or whoever is

behind me alert. But I'm sending that to see what happens. For your mother? For

moms? The house, the kids, the dog, everything. I'm just saying it's still not going

to be an immediate thing because there's still no guarantees once you send the money.

Well, I'll be by the phone in case a text comes from that point. Give

me proof of life. Let me, you know, all of that. You got it, big

dog. It's a nightmare. It's a nightmare, bro. Yeah, I can't even imagine. It really

is. And just the facts that you read, the timeline, you know, shit like the

camera, all of that. Somebody got to know that house. The pacemaker. Somebody knows that

house. Somebody cut off the pacemaker sink into the... That's not Joe Schmo the Crook.

That's not Joe Schmo the Crook. I don't think so either. That's somebody that know

y'all. might have been there that's that's it's high level shit yeah yo this is

a very serious matter prayer prayers are going out to the guthrie family savannah and

nancy we definitely are praying that you are alive and well and all is good

you know what this plan reeks of you guessed it a loser

sibling i mean a loser sibling hey and even if it don't and even if

it don't hey know who we not rushing to contact when mom gets

kidnapped? The loser sibling. You can't help. I'll hit

you when mom get back in. When mom is in the suburb. We got it.

We found her. What do you say, Big Mom? What do you do if the

loser sibling is the one that goes missing? How much Bitcoin are you putting out?

Well, I'm not putting out anything. Mom will have to go into retirement for me.

Well, I'm putting out something. put out something if the rest of the family tried

to scrape together and couldn't. They were short a little bit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go

house in 20. What if they ain't got nothing? They scrape. Oh, then they shouldn't

have got lost. Hey, kidnappers. Y'all got the wrong one.

You know what's crazy? And anyway, if the loser sibling get kidnapped, nigga, you've been

a loser long enough in your life to figure out and escape. They know how