JBP
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 905

Hertz Platinum

Joe Budden Podcast Episode 905, “Hertz Platinum,” released February 24, 2026. The JBP kicks off its latest episode with new music starting with Baby Keem’s ‘Ca$ino’ (20:39) before turning to Universal Music Group partnering with direct-to-consumer platform EVEN (32:48). The judge in Lil Durk’s trial will allow some of the rappers lyrics to play a role (41:56), Adam Silver and the NBA are planning to put anti-tanking rules in place starting next season (1:02:07), and Joe revisits the America’s Top Model documentary (1:14:53). Also, what happened with Mr. Tendernism (1:33:11), another viral video of Jim Jones (1:39:50), Marc Lamont Hill shares the story of a Florida father receiving a 37-year sentence (2:01:09), Part of the Show (2:12:44), and much more! in Spanish: https://bit.ly/JBPSpanish Full transcript and searchable timestamps below.

Hertz Platinum

In this episode

  • 20:39The JBP kicks off its latest episode with new music starting with Baby Keem’s ‘Ca$ino’
  • 32:48Before turning to Universal Music Group partnering with direct-to-consumer platform EVEN
  • 41:56The judge in Lil Durk’s trial will allow some of the rappers lyrics to play a role
  • 1:02:07Adam Silver and the NBA are planning to put anti-tanking rules in place starting next season
  • 1:14:53Joe revisits the America’s Top Model documentary
  • 1:33:11What happened with Mr. Tendernism
  • 1:39:50Another viral video of Jim Jones
  • 2:01:09Marc Lamont Hill shares the story of a Florida father receiving a 37-year sentence
  • 2:12:44Part of the Show
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Joe Budden Podcast Ep. 905 Transcript

Full transcript of Hertz Platinum (2:26:15 long). Search it, or click any timestamp to jump to that moment.

  • 0:01

    The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast as well as its hosts are

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    for entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No

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    one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not

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    encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have

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    your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show.

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    I was saying. Nice little Audi truck. It was old. It's trying to ask you

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    a question. I'll pay for the Uber. I'll put it on that. She took the

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    bus here. Stop with the bus. Y'all blow me.

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    How'd you get here? What's the truth? How'd you get here?

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    I thought you were saying he was lying. I was trying to get your... Listen.

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    Oh, dawg. I took a little PT this morning. Yo, I'm Hertz Platinum. I got

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    you. You know what I mean? Listen, that's all that story. Let's call the card.

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    He got all the perks. You Hertz Platinum. What the fuck are you

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    talking about? How you feel? How you fucking weight up? Platinum status or Hertz? How

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    are you in real estate and you Hertz Platinum? Where you was driving? Where

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    you needed all the rentals? I'm asking you a question. How you

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    getting... You know how many Hertz's I got? I ain't never made it to Hertz.

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    And he bragged about it. Presidential. Presidential? Oh,

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    shit. What else you got? What else you got?

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    Come on, man. Oh, shit. Big stupid Wally was holding all them cards.

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    the biggest hurts black yeah it's not a card and sometimes when you go in

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    hurts they got a young working so he don't know all the rules he's got

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    to tell him you know you know i'm a member you know a presidential right

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    he named me on the screen bro oh oh

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    my god oh that's funny we got a we

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    got uber our sister home For sure. Yeah, she shouldn't be taking a Peter Pan

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    to work. Or Amtrak. Peter Pan? She shouldn't be taking a Peter Pan to work.

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    Yo, I'll open up the floor and allow y'all room to apologize to the nail

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    techs. Uh-oh. It was on y'all ass? Not me. I didn't say nothing about it.

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    It was on y'all ass for that. I don't want my daughter to grow up

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    and be a nail tech. Who said that? Do y'all want to apologize to the

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    nail techs out there, yes or no? Who said that? Shout out to the nail

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    techs listening out there. You know what I mean? We love you. I do. You

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    know how many nail techs do nails to this part? Yeah. Nah, they, these

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    three. Who said it? These three. Yo, don't do that. You horrible at that. Go

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    ahead, though. These three? Mark, you. Look, let me point and help you. You.

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    And him. More than this is what happened. I said, he asked me if I

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    would be disappointed. I asked the three of them. Yeah, if I'd be disappointed if

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    my daughter wanted to be a nail tech. And I said yes. They all said

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    yes. Yes. We didn't. Go ahead, though. But part of it was because I said

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    I done paid all this money for college tuition. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah,

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    I'd be disappointed. That part, man. And you know what? The nail techs that's listening

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    right now, you're disappointed. Oh, shit. Damn. Oh, shit. No, I'm serious.

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    Double it down. Oh, shit. Yo, what the f***

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    is wrong with you? That's not what I said. What I said was, if you

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    spent a half a million dollars on education, and then your daughter or son wanted

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    to take a route that didn't justify your money that you spent, you would be

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    disappointed. You got to pay that money back. It's a half a million dollars that

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    you borrowed. If you left high school and went to cosmetology school and you was

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    a nail tech, them nail techs be making six figures. I'm not mad at that.

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    I ain't mad at that neither. Some of the nail techs make more money than

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    doctors. Well, then that would negate the half a million thing. Right. No, it wouldn't.

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    If they make more money than a doctor, then spending a half a million dollars

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    on education, even if it wasn't for nail tech, and then... No, that means I

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    spent the half a million dollars for no f***ing reason. Yeah, we're still on that

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    part. You could have did that, and I could have kept my bread. This is

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    a real good college. You know what I'm saying? I'm telling you, you got to

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    vet the girl dads, y'all. These girl dads. All right, so y'all don't want

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    to apologize. No, no, no. Shout out to the nail techs. We love you. Trying

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    to figure out how to get put up. Anyway. Mo, you want Amtrak home?

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    Okay. No, I got points. A cellar. A cellar, yo. I'm saying it's that for

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    your first time. Skateboard. A cellar. A cellar. A cellar. The cellar the fast train.

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    Yo, dog. Hey, dog. I got you. Hold on. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. That's

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    the fast train. It's not be hasty now. You can't put our sister on a

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    cellar? A cellar's twice the price. And it's like a... You know what I mean?

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    Nah, it's the bullet, though. It's the difference between being on a train for two,

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    three hours and being on a train for 45 minutes. And you're going to Philly?

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    Around about. Yeah, that's like 15 minutes. It is not. And I'll be skipping that

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    your apartment. Exactly. She's seen straight before. She'll

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    be fine. You won't let them do this. You won't let them do this. Letting

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    them do me. Letting them do me is crazy, yo. Craziness. Oh, shit. We're just

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    glad you got here safe, Mo. Me too. That's it. Or Indy. Safe and my

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    bob is intact. That's important. I really like your hair and I like the color.

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    I really like the color. Yeah, the train do your hair better than the car.

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    Because the car would be like, your head is out the window. This nigga just

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    called me a puppy. On the low. Nigga just called me a German shepherd. Because

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    she'll be like, I just got my hair done before I got in the car.

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    I was like, all right, well, what car would you in? Some shit without windows.

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    Some new shit. You're looking good, though. And you made a lot of money last

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    weekend. I appreciate it. I did make a lot of money last weekend. Who in

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    here made a lot of money last weekend? Let's drop amounts. Last

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    weekend. I didn't ask you nothing about what you spent. You've been to

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    Arkansas. You've been to... Yeah, you've been to a lot of play. Who in here

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    made a lot of money last week? I did okay. Let's drop numbers. I

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    did okay. I'll start first. Negatives. How about you? Maybe

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    15. Okay. How about you? Last week. Last weekend. Yeah, last weekend.

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    I did something. We did numbers. We playing fair. I did something. I didn't add

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    it up.

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    Well, roundabout. This nigga, that's what I'm saying. And then we got this squad. Yo,

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    you fucking up the pod because it's an audio broadcast. Exactly. And your performance too

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    poor to speak to me like that. My performance. Have we great on the curve,

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    nigga? That many niggas is in a swamp in this bitch. My performance is poor.

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    I'm saying I didn't count last week. Nothing special happened last week. It was just,

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    it's just, it's just, oh, last weekend we thought you might make some extra bread

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    the same. Oh, extra no. But we can't get a roundabout? Word. That's not the

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    question you asked. I need a calculator. No, you don't. Right there. Right there.

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    This is a topic on the show and I know the fans want to know.

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    They don't give a fuck about us. Probably about 60 grand.

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    I made about 60 grand. See? Blessed and highly favored. All due

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    to eye power. Praise God. I made a 30 piece. Damn, y'all cooking. Two

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    shows in D.C. Oh, y'all out there getting it. We killing shit. The end up

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    is all that. We killing. 30 for two shows? Yo. Three shows total, Philly and

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    two D.C. Let's go. Ten a pop. Oh, those your birthday prices. I ain't make

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    shit at the birthday party. Those your birthday prices. No, there ain't no birthday prices.

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    Talk heavy. I set him up. I set him up. Talk heavy on him. Regular

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    prices. Fuck they talking about out there. No, but I got beat on the birthday

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    party. You know, he's supposed to split the door money. You want shot six, you

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    can't count the door. I swear when I first started drinking, there wasn't nobody in

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    there. When we left, that bitch was back. He said, I'm going to apple pay

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    you what we made. I'm going to go half. I said, nigga. I think he

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    sent you $800. Speaking of which, I got to send you some bread, too, because

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    you didn't have the cash app, and I told them to send it to me,

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    and they sent it to me. You're my neighbor. Yeah, that's why I laid you.

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    Why is she such a good wife? Trapper, babe. Listen, I am one of them.

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    I don't give a fuck. Y'all lucky cash clips clipped me this year. Real shit.

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    What you... No, listen. It's okay. I promise y'all you don't have to do anything

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    wrong to lose that thing. To lose cash app? To lose the cash app. All

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    the people I know that lost cash app. This is true. Everybody I know that

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    lost cash app. Cash app had them dead to rights. They see what you're doing.

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    We know what you're doing. And now no more. We let you get away with

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    it for a minute. And now you pop back up Young Purple 2. No. No,

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    it's not Young Purple 2. We banning that one too. You and your whole business

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    infrastructure. Get the fuck out of here. Yup. I know a lot

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    of niggas love cash. I don't know. I ain't know. Oh, what? Niggas lose cash.

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    No, I promise y'all they take it for no reason. They do exactly what Joe

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    said. Come back and put the two on the end and they take that. You

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    can't even remake it. Well, the people that they took them from

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    have a similar reputation to you. Oh my shit. I

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    wasn't even doing all that. Let's try it another way. Because they could take it

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    for no reason at all. They do. I mean, that's a fact. But also what

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    could be true is the profile. You ever watch America's Most Wanted? I

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    would never play around with that shit. Because people tip you through there and all

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    that. Oh, man. People show love through cash. I wish I could find all the

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    niggas that I scammed out of money over the years. I would pay you. I

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    will pay you back. Dead ass. I think about y'all sometimes when I go to

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    bed. Reach out. How you escaping this? How was you escaping this? He's lying. No,

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    I'm being very serious. I don't think he lying. I'm being very serious. So how?

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    Whatever fucking verse here, verse there. So you took the money and I did the

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    verse? Brown back. You took the money and I did the verse or gave some

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    BS verse? Took a beat. Whatever. I took something. But see, to me, and this

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    is how I feel about it. To me, that's bad business. That's not scamming. So

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    if- Oh yeah, because my heart was in it. I meant to do whatever I

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    was supposed to do. I just didn't get around. No, for me- For me, if

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    I did a business deal when I first started and you got to talking crazy

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    to me, that was the end of the deal. That's the end of the deal.

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    That's just how it was. You get the bread? You fucking right. So what you

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    call that? Bad business? I call that bad business. Gotcha. To me, scamming is somebody

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    reaching out to you trying to get your money or you offering a service that

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    you don't even do. If I have a service and we got something to exchange

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    and you get to popping and talking crazy, posting my personal information, doing anything like

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    that, that's silly when you're in. That's how I thought back then. Like, that's your

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    bad, not mine. But what about I have a service? somebody pay for the service

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    and I just don't do it. That's still scamming. Yeah, that's, I guess. That's scamming?

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    I get what you're saying. It's because the whole play wasn't a hustle. It just,

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    you just ended up doing something different. Yeah. As opposed to like, I'm setting you

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    up to do, you know what I mean? It's artists out there right now. I'm

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    not saying no names. They are DMing up and coming acts. I seen it. For

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    feature verses. That they're never going to do. That's a scam. But again, this is

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    in line with something that they do. You took the bread. You just didn't fulfill

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    your end. That is a scam. I think one thing tried to scam me this

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    week too. Who? It's Glorilla's sister, man. We finally hooked up after the show.

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    You don't say. Oh no, I didn't get scammed. I didn't get

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    scammed, but it was, we was on the verge. I was on the verge. She

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    hit me up like, what up, bro? Stop using them big words when you talk

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    to her. I said, yo. Here you go. She said, what up, bro? She said,

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    we doing this? I said, yeah. So I said, cool. So I said, let's do

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    this interview. She said, cool. She said, well, send me the money. So we was

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    going back and forth about how much it would be worth to do an interview

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    with Gorilla Sister. What would you have paid? I wouldn't have paid for an interviewer,

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    bro. Joe Magic number, 2,500. I think that's a good number. And so I said,

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    she said, five bands. I said, no, 2,500. She said, cool. I said, let's do

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    it. I'm coming back from Arkansas that night. I said, she said, when you want

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    to do it? I said, we could do it tomorrow morning. Or I said, my

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    flight's a little late. We could even do it 1 a.m. because I figured she

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    don't sleep with no more hours. I can't imagine. So I said, let's do it.

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    She said, cool. She said, I need all the money right now. Oh, bitch, please.

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    I said, you want me to cash out for you $2,500 right now? She said,

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    yeah. She said, well, that's how business works. No, it's not. This is good. So

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    I said, no. My network policy is we'll pay you after the interview. She said,

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    no, 50-50 split. Cool. I said, when you get in the room, because it was

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    online. It was virtual. Virtual, thank you. I said, when you get in the room,

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    I'll send you half. We'll do the interview. And before you log off, I'll send

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    you the other half. That seemed fair, right? That's fair. Yeah. She said, my scheduler.

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    Won't even put it on the books until I'm paid in full. Oh, please. First

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    of all, you don't have a scheduler. And it's like, we're doing this shit in

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    an hour. And so she was like, I was like, no, I'm not giving you

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    $1,250 while I'm sitting here on this plane. I'll never see you again. That's what

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    I'm thinking. You know what I mean? I just said no. And finally she said,

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    well, then just give me $500. Then I was like, no. She was like, $250.

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    I was like, you know what? Let me get some hot wings in the snapper.

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    Oh, man. He's got hot wings in the snapper. I think so. Are you serious?

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    Deadass. What movie was that? She eventually got there to 500? I'm joking about this.

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    500, yes, yes. We got to 500. We got to 500. Absolutely, we got to

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    500. And I said, it's cool. I said, you can, you know, I wish you

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    the best of luck. You know what I mean? And that's what she put on.

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    I think she put on Instagram, like, I'm doing five exclusive interviews. DM me now.

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    They're running out. So, because I was, I was, I was. Oh, I'm bread short.

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    Yeah, she got down to 500. So, you know what time it is. You know

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    what it is? But not 500 total, right? 500 now. 500 deposit. It's a deposit,

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    right? She wanted a deposit. I don't know. That's what I assume. You should have

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    let me talk to her. I speak that. Let me hear the conversation. Cash App.

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    What's up, bro? Cash App, don't call me white girl three.

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    First of all, y'all niggas need to stop playing with me. That's number one. Don't

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    call me white girl three. Number two. Yeah, let me hear it. Just, yo, what's

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    up, bro? With a bunch of O's on the bro. Okay. Excitement. Oh, man, I've

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    been dying to do this. I want to do the virtual drawing. She going, oh,

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    you're on Philly. That get her excited, right? And, you know, you want to lock

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    in now. Let's do it now. Then she's going to say, okay, I need to

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    pay in full. Then I'm going to say, all right, bet I'm racing that now.

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    She's going to hit me back 15 times within the 10 minutes. I'm going to

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    say, damn, bro, something wrong with my phone. By the time I hit this bitch

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    back, we already ready to go. So I went along, walked her, went from the

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    plane to the interview. Got you. Hit her and say, yo. I was trying to

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    call her, and she was like, she ain't got a phone. She ain't got no

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    phone. She told me she ain't got no phone. I didn't realize it. I don't

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    know if you, you know, it's been a while since you've been out. I just,

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    she was up so much. Was that really her though? That's another thing. Yeah. That

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    was her page? For sure. It was definitely her. But I haven't really been able

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    to find her. So salute to her, man. I hope she gets those interviews. Man,

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    fuck her for not doing an interview. Fuck you, bro. I think I'm okay. Fuck

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    you in that strap, bitch. Oh, shit. She don't do the interview. She's quiet. If

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    not, fuck her. Yeah, fuck her.

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    Fuck her.

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    And

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    Mona Mona big Mona Is here. What episode is this? 905. Welcome to episode

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    905 of the Joe Budden Podcast brought to you by Fueled by Powered by Price

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    Picks, Price Picks gang. Yeah. I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here.

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    Host Joe Budden here with some really amazing people to my right. You know the

  • 17:05

    vibes. Philly's finest. Don't call her white girl. Big Damona in the building. Mona, how

  • 17:09

    you feeling? I'm feeling great. Good. Love that. Next to her. Another fucking Philly

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    fucking, these Philly motherfuckers. Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill is in the building.

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    Mark, how you doing? Good, good, good. Ramadan Mubarak to everybody who's fasting out there.

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    Yo, yo. About that.

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    It's Ramadan. Indeed. So shout out to the, you know what I mean? To the

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    heads out there. A lot of people in my life. Last year and the year

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    before, y'all was grumpy. So I feel like it's important even if

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    you're not on Ramadan. And ain't it Lent something too? Right, there's a few things

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    going on. Tanita, even if you're not doing any of that, it is a good

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    time to cleanse. Find something that you need to cleanse and get your life right.

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    But y'all people, y'all was grumpy. I just want to say that. First week

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    only. And isn't this year Ramadan starting earlier than normal? Well, it moves two weeks

  • 18:11

    every year, earlier and earlier, but that's better because last year when the daylight savings

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    happened right in the middle, that was a little rough because that added that extra

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    hour on the other side. And I don't wake up. I wasn't waking up enough

  • 18:22

    to eat in the morning, so now I'm good, man. Sunset like 540. When my

  • 18:26

    barber meal finished that 6 o'clock cut, he'd be like, yo, is there just a

  • 18:31

    store around that sells, like, peaches? Nigga, how the

  • 18:37

    fuck do I do? Nigga, I ain't ate a peach since my second grade. If

  • 18:43

    you had something for him, some

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    dates perhaps, some words. Dates are the one. Dates are big. Yeah? Yeah.

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    A lot of drivers do that too. Why dates, out of curiosity? I think it's

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    tradition, but also I find them filling. Okay. Like, it makes you feel a little

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    fuller than you otherwise would. But I think it just started from the Middle East.

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    I think that's why. Dates and cream cheese. Yeah. Oh, is that another one? Well,

  • 19:09

    I stuffed some Chick-fil-A in my book bag. So as soon as 540 hit, I'm

  • 19:12

    going ham. I don't care what we talking about. I'm going ham. I see the

  • 19:17

    irony. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's pretty good. Next to him, our good brother, Mr. Thousand

  • 19:21

    Doors and a big ish in the building. Yes, sir. Ish, how you doing, man?

  • 19:27

    I'm great, sir. Yourself? Good. A little ahead of the weather, but I'm cool. Well,

  • 19:31

    you don't sound good. You look good. I don't got no haircut, none of that.

  • 19:34

    It's cool, though. Yeah, but that's what 50s should be about to me. Like,

  • 19:40

    I don't think that's 50. I get the haircuts. I mean, every now and again.

  • 19:45

    You get a cut every week, right? I try to. Yeah, two weeks ain't going

  • 19:48

    to cut you. Gotcha. Even though y'all 50-year-olds, when you skip one of the maintenance

  • 19:54

    dates. Session. The 50 looks 50? Yeah, he do look a little more. Start

  • 20:00

    50. Yeah, he look a little more. 50 look 50. But it's fine. Here go

  • 20:04

    another 50-year-old counterpart over here. Our good brother, Big

  • 20:09

    Freeze. Big Freeze in the building. What up? What's poppin'? Chilling. How you feeling, Freeze?

  • 20:15

    I'm good. I'm good. Good. Glad to be here. Absolutely love that. Big Parks is

  • 20:19

    in the building. Poe is here. Corey's here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are

  • 20:23

    here by remote last, but certainly not least. Each and every one of you guys

  • 20:26

    are out there. Now's a good time to tell you to sign up for the

  • 20:29

    Patreon. If you are not signed up there, shout out to all the sub, uh,

  • 20:32

    subgroups out there, all the hate listeners. Got a great show lined up for you

  • 20:35

    today. I'm sure we do. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Where do

  • 20:38

    you want to start? Keem? Well, I'll start with new music. Start with Keem. Start

  • 20:43

    with Keem. Let's go. Games Casino is out now. He did a listening event on

  • 20:48

    YouTube last night. I did not catch it. I did not know what was happening.

  • 20:52

    But the album is here, and it sounds pretty good. I've listened to it. The

  • 20:57

    first half I like a lot. Second half is kind of hit or miss. Same,

  • 21:01

    yeah. But overall, I'm definitely fucking with the project. Nice follow-up for Melodic Blue.

  • 21:07

    After a, what was it, four year? It's been a while, yeah. Three, four years.

  • 21:12

    Usually you get that sophomore slump. Not him. Super solid intro. I love a

  • 21:18

    lot. I don't know if you want to line up some jams to play there.

  • 21:22

    There we go. Yeah. That's the energy. That's a

  • 21:28

    good energy to start off with. Track two. I really appreciate

  • 21:34

    the just concise album. Yeah, it's nice. 37 minutes, something like that. 37 minutes.

  • 21:41

    One through, what is this, 11? 11 songs. Straight to the point. Not many

  • 21:46

    features. Yeah, very easy, easily digestible. Like, I was very happy to wake

  • 21:52

    up at 3 in the morning or whatever time I wake up and put this

  • 21:56

    on and hear it and finish it. Same. How was the Kendrick features? You mentioned

  • 22:01

    features. He bodied. Oh, buddy. He bodied. Oh.

  • 22:07

    Go on and get to it. Good flirts. Good flirts. You didn't hear it? No,

  • 22:10

    I've been hearing about it. Oh, buddy. Oh, OK.

  • 22:16

    And I mean, I'm saying oh, buddy, just because as an emcee, I really appreciated

  • 22:21

    what he did on that song. But again, these TD niggas got a good way

  • 22:25

    of whatever the single is, boy, that's about to stand out. Yeah. It's about to

  • 22:29

    be very plain, clearly obvious that this is what's

  • 22:35

    taking off. And that is track four, but I don't want to skip track three.

  • 22:41

    All right, I'll get to it. Yeah. But I like that song. You got to

  • 22:44

    hear that record in the car, too. Yeah, it's nice in the car. That one

  • 22:46

    is amazing in the car. Yeah. That song is hard. And actually, no, it's not

  • 22:50

    true. I want to get to the end. I like how these songs go into

  • 22:54

    each other. Yeah, facts. That shit is fire. He body, dude. Yeah, he body. He

  • 22:59

    went crazy. Gossip with my bitch like Young Thug too. That's what it's on the

  • 23:03

    internet. People saying he dissed him. It's not a diss. It's an acknowledgement of Young

  • 23:08

    Thug talking about him, but it's not a diss. I do the same shit. I

  • 23:12

    felt it. Every dude felt it. There's dudes out there that's pretending that they don't

  • 23:18

    gossip with their girl. Knock it off. They all like gossip. They're less

  • 23:22

    gossipers. That's the whole point. of being in a relationship. Right. That's one of the

  • 23:28

    major perks. Right. Let me tell you what happened. Shit, we do it on a

  • 23:33

    wake up too. What? First thing in the morning. And last thing before May. Yeah.

  • 23:38

    Playing right there. Don't let it be some breaking gossip that I found out at

  • 23:42

    four in the morning. I might wake a motherfucker up. I'm glad to know that

  • 23:46

    Kendrick does it too. Yeah. That song is great. That song is great. That song

  • 23:50

    is great. I'm with y'all. I like the first half of this project. more than

  • 23:54

    I liked the second half of the project. There's a couple joints on the second

  • 23:56

    half. It ain't but 37 minutes, so it wasn't on long enough for me to

  • 24:00

    have a complaint. Right. Y'all got me excited from this first half of the album.

  • 24:04

    And listen, for me, the second half, it might have to grow on me type

  • 24:06

    of vibe, but it wasn't nothing that super stood out the way that the first

  • 24:10

    maybe seven, eight records did. Outside of, what is it, Cassini? The Circus Cassini freestyle

  • 24:16

    joint? Yeah. That record was hard. That and no blame. You get the point. Yeah.

  • 24:22

    Yeah. You get the point. When that beat drop, you instantly gain another 30 to

  • 24:26

    40 miles per hour in the car. I'm telling you something. I told y'all I'm

  • 24:30

    done doing one album, one listen reviews, so I don't have a review. I'm

  • 24:36

    just talking. I'm talking shit. Sound great. But it does sound good. Yeah, it sounds

  • 24:41

    real good. That is the review. Like for me, on a one listen, either I

  • 24:44

    like this so far or I don't. I'm not trying to pick it apart. Nah,

  • 24:49

    man, this is a good project. Yeah, the first listen is just do I like

  • 24:51

    this or not. That's it. For sure. And I like it. Yeah. Yeah, somehow he

  • 24:56

    got me. I'm fucking with that Two Short record, too. Yeah. Yeah, record's tough. I'm

  • 24:59

    fucking with that Two Short record. That record's tough. Shout out to Keem, man. Shout

  • 25:03

    out to Keem. Shout out to Keem, Kendrick. Good job. I like hearing Kendrick do

  • 25:07

    all of the freaky girl verse. I like that. And he did some background, like

  • 25:12

    vocals and ad-libs and shit on the project again. Yeah. Which he did on the

  • 25:15

    first one as well. Any other new music that we need to get to? Mozzie

  • 25:20

    and ESTG dropped the album together. They put a single out. That's like Best of

  • 25:25

    Both Worlds for you. I thought it would be. That's like when Hovind Kells

  • 25:29

    dropped. The album is called Not a Chance in Hell. Again,

  • 25:34

    12 songs, 30 minutes. So another short, concise project.

  • 25:42

    Mozzie stood out on this one. Okay. I don't know how to word it. Something's

  • 25:48

    missing from ESTG for me. And I can't pinpoint it. Crimes? Crimes. No.

  • 25:55

    No, man, not crimes. Crimes are still there. The crime talk is still there. I

  • 26:00

    don't know what he's doing his personal life. Yeah, yeah, it's over time. I just

  • 26:02

    know you like your rappers to actually get out there and be doing them. Be

  • 26:05

    real. No, I like it to sound good. I like the music to sound good,

  • 26:08

    bro. All right. That's it. I don't want you all out here doing it, risking

  • 26:11

    your freedom if you don't have to. Say that. Make it sound good, though. But,

  • 26:16

    yeah, overall, cool project. I'm not... There's...

  • 26:22

    Five or six that I like a lot. Mozzie has a solo record on here

  • 26:27

    called Buick the Benz. Smooth. Okay. But yeah, check it out. One thing that stood

  • 26:32

    out to me that was very interesting is this is not listed as CMG. And

  • 26:38

    I know they're both signed there. Oh, interesting. So I don't know if there's something

  • 26:42

    going on with the business. I also got a nice little... Lil Nugget. Well, I

  • 26:46

    pay attention to this shit. Lil CMG Nugget to watch. Because I be wondering where

  • 26:49

    these artists are. I didn't talk to anybody. I didn't even ask any questions. CMG

  • 26:54

    right now are dealing with a lot with Rest in Peace Lil Papa. So I

  • 26:56

    didn't reach out to nobody and say, hey, what's going on? Wait, he was a

  • 26:58

    CMG act? Yes. That young man? Rest in Peace. Rest in Peace to him. Yeah,

  • 27:02

    he's CMG. I didn't know that. So I just reached out and sent condolences. But

  • 27:06

    I'm not asking about this right now. Why y'all dealing with that? Got it. But

  • 27:10

    on the album, it's just listed Mozzie. and Young Shiner's, which is ESTG's label, under

  • 27:16

    Empire. So I just, it's something to pay attention to. We got an Alchemist currency,

  • 27:20

    Larry June project, short project, seven songs, Spiral Staircases. It is exactly what you think

  • 27:25

    of when you think of these three artists, kind of laid back, down-tempo records, but

  • 27:29

    a nice vibe, nice ride in the car. Got it. All right. I didn't know

  • 27:33

    that either. Yeah. All right, so I have to check these things out. And also,

  • 27:37

    surprisingly, Hove puts Dead Presidents The

  • 27:43

    first version up on streaming today. Today is the 30th

  • 27:49

    anniversary of that song being released as a single. Okay. Reasonable Doubt, of course, is

  • 27:55

    June of 96, so it'll be 30 years in June. But out of nowhere, he

  • 28:00

    changed his name. Put the oomlots back. Yeah, put the oomlots back on the Y

  • 28:03

    and dropped their presidents. Welcome surprise to everyone who couldn't get it before. True. True.

  • 28:09

    True. And a lot of people only know Dead Presidents 2 from Reasonable Doubt, so

  • 28:12

    that's kind of dope. And last but certainly not least, we can't go without mentioning

  • 28:17

    Young Miami dropped a new single. Second single this week. Tea Time.

  • 28:23

    You got a little something? It's a deeply personal, she said. It's a deeply personal

  • 28:26

    record? A deeply personal record. I can look it up for you guys if you

  • 28:29

    want. Let's see. Who wants? OK, all of this is why I don't even start

  • 28:32

    with music. T-time. T-time. Each one of these is why. I

  • 28:38

    normally push music back to hour six, but fuck it. Fuck it. Let's do it.

  • 28:44

    Oh, this the record you was talking about? Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

  • 28:49

    This is that record? Yes. Oh. I could perform it, really. Oh, that'll get the

  • 28:55

    train rocking. Which one? Oh, shit. What's your

  • 29:01

    problem, yo? This thing is crazy. I don't even find that funny, Mom. Me

  • 29:05

    either. I didn't get it. That's why I didn't get offended.

  • 29:12

    You can't even say that. I was laughing at something

  • 29:18

    unrelated. I know. You would never laugh at me. Mark, do you really want our

  • 29:21

    real opinion on this? I was joking. Throughout the whole most important part of this

  • 29:26

    show. I was teasing. Who else came out? MC Yellow Legs. MC Yellow

  • 29:32

    Legs. Drop the EP too. Call the cricket. Yo, I know a lot of

  • 29:38

    y'all don't know, but his last tape.

  • 29:45

    MC Yellow Lags Good thing we don't sell no

  • 29:51

    ass Are you going to play it or no? Oh

  • 29:56

    please No wait For real Let's do a lyric break What is becoming this

  • 30:02

    place? Yo who's running this place? This has to fall on

  • 30:08

    leadership That's enough babe Okay thank you This shit is lighting social media up

  • 30:14

    I don't think it sounds bad. I just think it's... Sounds worse. Cheesy. She said

  • 30:19

    it sounds worse. But it works on TikTok. This is something that was made for

  • 30:22

    TikTok. We talked about it last week. It went viral negatively and she's taking... Oh,

  • 30:26

    she released it today. Yeah, why not? Are you here, Mark? Do you hear him?

  • 30:31

    No, I'm saying like, she don't care about the negative response. She's like, fuck it.

  • 30:34

    I'm still putting this thing out and it's going to make money. Yep. You know

  • 30:37

    what? If you wouldn't talk about it... on you and your white show. Actually, I

  • 30:43

    want you and your white. I want you and your white. Yeah, I got it.

  • 30:47

    Break down for tea time. That's right. Check us out. That's hilarious.

  • 30:52

    There is some R&B music that I'll let y'all know about a little later on

  • 30:58

    in the show. I'm too old for these fucks. I just appreciate getting the music

  • 31:03

    now. Yeah. Your rollout Your GQ

  • 31:08

    spread, your fucking, I don't care. I'll be honest. Is it my GQ? I don't

  • 31:14

    know. I'm just talking shit. I'm just saying your magazine cover you got, your fucking,

  • 31:19

    the hot wings you ate. Oh, he ate the hot one. That's my man, too.

  • 31:25

    I love that show. It's a smash over there. But I don't care, man. Just

  • 31:29

    give me the music. I'm too old for it. I'm too old. Unless it's a

  • 31:31

    great roll up. I don't even care about that. Even then, I don't give a

  • 31:36

    fuck. I don't really care. I appreciate it. I appreciate what J. Cole is doing

  • 31:41

    right now. That's dope for them. They don't do that. I got the

  • 31:47

    album already. I don't really care what you do after that. Fair. You know what

  • 31:50

    I mean? As long as the music is good, which in Cole's case it was,

  • 31:54

    as long as the music is good, have at it. That's for the fans. Know

  • 31:57

    how old I am now? Because Night Agent just came out on Netflix, but this

  • 32:01

    is true for any show. When the new season of the show come on, I

  • 32:05

    have to go watch the last episode of the last season. Oh, for sure. Even

  • 32:10

    though I saw it already. Even though they're going to show the little recap. I

  • 32:13

    don't care about that. I need to go watch the finale. That's what happened with

  • 32:16

    Nightcap. I played the shit, the recap. Said, oh, the president is about to die.

  • 32:22

    Wait, I don't remember the president about to get a job and kill somebody, whatever.

  • 32:26

    Well, it'd be like two, three years between these seasons sometimes. That's the problem. That's

  • 32:29

    the thing. You guys did a refresher. I told you, Paradise, just go watch it.

  • 32:35

    Go watch what? The finale. The last couple episodes because we almost there. Oh, no,

  • 32:40

    I'm ready for Paradise. I'm ready too. That was last year. I've been waiting. I'm

  • 32:45

    already ready for Paradise. That's in my memory bank. Do we want to talk about

  • 32:49

    this big UMG deal with Even? Come on, let's do it. We could. Even's been

  • 32:54

    around for a couple years. They do... basically D to C kind of rollouts for

  • 32:59

    independent artists or have been, but now they've been acquired or? What does D to

  • 33:05

    C mean? Direct to consumer. Direct to consumer. Gotcha. Direct to consumer. Similar-ish to like

  • 33:11

    a band camp or something like that. Gotcha. But they've been acquired or partnered with

  • 33:15

    UMG. Partnered with. Partnered with, okay. I've seen nothing that says. Acquired. That they've been

  • 33:21

    acquired. Got it, okay. I think it's pretty interesting. For now. I don't

  • 33:27

    understand why you would be on a major label and then do more

  • 33:33

    DTC. I mean, I understand why the major labels would want that service, but I

  • 33:37

    don't understand as an artist on a major label why you would want. You could

  • 33:40

    just do it yourself, DTC. Or it might be some nuance. From a

  • 33:46

    business perspective, I'm just guessing, that the artist may not know how to do. Right.

  • 33:51

    It's like anybody would be like, yo, you go start a podcast. You could. You

  • 33:55

    could. But if you want to do it correctly, if you want to roll your

  • 33:58

    shit out correctly, I think it's some information that you might be lacking. That may

  • 34:02

    be true. You know what I'm saying? That some experts might have. That may be

  • 34:05

    true. I don't know. It's just pretty interesting in general, the major labels behaving more

  • 34:10

    like indies. In general. Even going back to some of the rollouts that we talked

  • 34:15

    about last year where it's like, let's see how it performs and then we'll mark

  • 34:20

    it from there. It's all independent strategies that are being utilized by major labels. Yeah,

  • 34:25

    I mean, when I saw it, you hit on that, when I saw it, I

  • 34:28

    was like, okay, this is indeed confirmation that they are watching us.

  • 34:35

    This is the confirmation of it. That the big boys are watching the little boys.

  • 34:38

    I mean, that's always the case. But, yeah, they're watching not only the little guys,

  • 34:44

    but their ecosystems and their worlds and their... groups they're creating

  • 34:50

    and they're watching the discords and they're watching the super fans and they're watching what

  • 34:54

    people are paying for bundles and they're watching what independent acts might be selling for

  • 34:59

    certain projects. They're watching what the artwork is doing. They're watching, just consider yourself surveilled.

  • 35:05

    They're watching all of it and if they can implement it and help on a

  • 35:10

    big, they're watching United Masters. I think it's also an indication that streaming is not

  • 35:13

    great. for the music economy that we've kind of been talking about for a while

  • 35:18

    up here now? What I think they're realizing is it's a lot of money being

  • 35:22

    made outside of streaming. Right. And then they, again, it's cat and mouse. So whatever

  • 35:27

    way the artists find out how to make money, the label now wants to come

  • 35:30

    in and take that. True. Now you go find a new way. Oh, this is

  • 35:33

    what y'all doing over there. Okay, we got to get that too. Right. So that's

  • 35:37

    what it is. Like, even with Even, I was reading up on Even. Like you

  • 35:41

    said, super fans and stuff. So, they'll allow you to sell your album direct to

  • 35:46

    your fans early before it drops. The labels see that. Okay, wait, your fans are

  • 35:50

    paying. How much over here versus how much just for the subscription to a streaming

  • 35:54

    service? Nah, let's go over here and get them too. Remember how people before was

  • 36:00

    getting paid off tours? You was making all your money on the road. What happens?

  • 36:03

    Labels say, nope. 360. Oh, you're getting paid off merch? Nope, we need that too.

  • 36:08

    true it's it's the same game it's just all right wherever they find wherever y'all

  • 36:12

    find a way to make money outside the label the label comes in and gets

  • 36:15

    a part of it again my question is just that what value are you adding

  • 36:18

    as the major label now just to be able to do it at scale and

  • 36:22

    okay and probably built-in staff i just know i'll be tight if i was signed

  • 36:28

    to a major label and they're like you know what we're gonna do we're gonna

  • 36:30

    go to even it's like i i could have did that i could have did

  • 36:33

    that oh, we're going to wait until your album comes out and then figure out

  • 36:36

    what song is performing well and then we'll market that. I could have did that.

  • 36:38

    I could have did that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but for the lesser

  • 36:43

    known artist that is on a major not getting any attention, not getting a shot

  • 36:47

    at certain songs or certain sessions or certain spots, period,

  • 36:54

    I could see this being very beneficial for them. For sure. For the small artists.

  • 36:58

    For the small artists just stuck in... The matrix of label

  • 37:04

    hell, for sure. The infrastructure alone. Yeah, definitely. This is a

  • 37:10

    way for the label to make sense of justifying the time and energy for a

  • 37:15

    smaller fan base. If they got a piece of the whole

  • 37:21

    thing. Yeah. And if you let me just run off at the mouth, it's interesting

  • 37:26

    seeing the labels revert or start to revert back to physical sales matter.

  • 37:32

    Yes. Yeah. Again, it speaks to the, and that's a result. How much longer could

  • 37:38

    they pretend like streaming, streaming, streaming? And I think streaming numbers are actually up.

  • 37:44

    Oh, I'm sure. But how long could you pretend streaming, streaming, streaming, streaming once Spotify

  • 37:50

    found the way to circumvent the the the music money over

  • 37:56

    to podcasting so whatever the deal is that we have with the labels the labels

  • 38:01

    get it already it's not there's nothing there that relationship is it could only last

  • 38:06

    but for so long is what i'm saying it was pretty interesting too i read

  • 38:08

    an article that said the ASCAP's numbers went up fairly significantly last year which means

  • 38:14

    that ASCAP is a performing rights organization they collect money when your shit is played

  • 38:18

    in radios and uh stadiums um basically non-record sales usage of music, not TV.

  • 38:25

    That's a different license. And it went up, which is pretty interesting to me. So

  • 38:28

    that means more music is being played and monetized than it was last year, the

  • 38:32

    year before, the year before. So music is growing. Music itself is growing. Like I'm

  • 38:37

    currently trying to investigate the Distro Kid sale. Uh-huh. Because

  • 38:43

    why that's, I don't understand it yet. Yeah. Who do they sell to?

  • 38:49

    I'm, They didn't sell anybody yet, but they are for sale and they're being repped

  • 38:54

    by the big time. What's the big wigs in the bag? We got to pull

  • 38:57

    it up. Goldman Sachs. Yes. Oh, wow. Goldman Sachs. They're being advised. Okay. Yeah,

  • 39:04

    that's big. Big dog. Yeah. Everybody's going to be a big dog. See, and that's

  • 39:09

    the thing. Everything, we're still in smoke and mirrors land. So I don't know.

  • 39:15

    I don't know that UMG if they purchased even. Uh-huh. No report

  • 39:21

    says that. But the thinking is that if they haven't, they will.

  • 39:26

    That's what I was going to say. I was going to say, yo, isn't this

  • 39:31

    just a case you see it in other industries where the big dogs see that

  • 39:34

    you get in motion? They'll just come acquire you. That's it. That's just really it.

  • 39:38

    That's all that's going on right now. It happens in every single industry. I can

  • 39:42

    totally see one of the major labels buying DistroKid also because why not? like DistroKid

  • 39:47

    essentially distributes your music. It's an easy way. You pay a fee and you can

  • 39:50

    distribute your shit all over DSPs and places to purchase music. So you can basically

  • 39:55

    make money off anybody making music because they're paying to put their music up. So

  • 39:59

    why wouldn't you, if you were UMG or any of the major labels, buy that

  • 40:03

    up and make money both ways? Fam, DistroKid handles 30 to 40% of

  • 40:08

    all new independent music distribution globally. Yeah. You buy that. Yeah. You buy

  • 40:14

    that. And, I mean, $2 billion sounds like a lot, but if you're universal, you

  • 40:21

    know what I'm saying? Like, that shit ain't about nothing for them. Well, I'm not

  • 40:27

    just pigeonholing it to universal, but it'll just be interesting to

  • 40:33

    watch. I'm investigating the DistroKid stuff. Yeah, I could see a major label or another

  • 40:37

    tech company. You know, I could see a Spotify or Apple or Tidal or whoever

  • 40:41

    coming in to buy it because it's the same thing. Like, I'm already making the

  • 40:43

    money here. I might as well make money... both ways we'll see what comes of

  • 40:48

    even stuff yeah it's pretty interesting cold used it for his his rollout yeah stove

  • 40:54

    god did some stuff over there ransom did some stuff over there people have been

  • 40:57

    using even for a little while and the label see it yeah oh that's what

  • 41:01

    y'all doing do we know who owns it uh currently no i don't i saw

  • 41:06

    some report that said there was a few artists that have a stake in it

  • 41:10

    but oh that's dope Dope if true. Again, I haven't vetted any of this information,

  • 41:15

    so I don't want to just get on here and talk off the hip. Yeah,

  • 41:18

    I don't see anybody right there. They're not saying. It's

  • 41:24

    fine. It's fine. We'll keep an eye on this. That's it. Yeah, for sure. What

  • 41:28

    else is fun? Mag Rodriguez is the founder and CEO.

  • 41:35

    Whoever that is. Young Spanish kid. Looks fairly young. Looks to be about...

  • 41:42

    40 said he's the founder and CEO. Interesting.

  • 41:48

    Got it. Yeah. Interesting. I'm glad to see a young person doing it. Mad young.

  • 41:52

    Yeah. So. All right. What else is fun? What else is fun? What else is

  • 41:55

    on your mind? Well, it's not fun, but it's on my mind. You know, with

  • 41:59

    the Lil Durk trial, the judge has ruled that some lyrics can be

  • 42:05

    used in the trial, which is a big deal. Not all of them. I think

  • 42:08

    they wanted like 13. Yeah. They got, is it five? Yeah. They got a couple

  • 42:12

    of them. Some of them are going to be, they have to be heard again.

  • 42:15

    They're waiting for the prosecutors to explain exactly how this applies. And a couple were

  • 42:19

    thrown out. Some of the ones that were included were the lyrics from Who Wants

  • 42:25

    Smoke. A slap. Damn. Uh-huh. Oh,

  • 42:31

    another slap. Yeah, and they... They picked the slaps. They did pick... I need the

  • 42:37

    fucking prosecution's playlist. Yeah. They pick

  • 42:43

    some joints. I ain't gonna hold you. But if the slap is detailing how you

  • 42:46

    slap somebody else, nigga, then... Well, that's the thing. And that's why I'm gonna pray

  • 42:51

    for Dirk because they picked the songs where there's crime happening.

  • 42:58

    It sounds like crime. I don't want to say... So what they allowed was, like,

  • 43:01

    they can't play a full video. They can only use a still frame or screenshot,

  • 43:06

    which, again, if you're showing... something in the whole scene. If you only could use

  • 43:10

    this one shot. That could be a BB gun. So it's lyrics and music videos?

  • 43:16

    Oh, they were trying to get lyrics, interviews, comments, videos. They were trying to get

  • 43:20

    everything, everything that he's done. They were trying to, if they could somehow tie it

  • 43:25

    to any of this, they were trying to get it included. Yeah. Yeah. And they

  • 43:28

    ruled some, they ruled everyone's out. Like there was a lyric, fool his ass. He

  • 43:31

    think he buys some cars. We hop out, school his ass. They said that was

  • 43:35

    a moderate level of relevance. and therefore could not be used. So the judge is

  • 43:39

    like, it's not enough to just say some shit. It's not even enough to say

  • 43:42

    some shit that could be connected to this crime. It has to be directly connected.

  • 43:46

    Yeah, like directly connected. They're trying to make it as narrow as possible. And this

  • 43:48

    is the murder for hire for the Kwondo shooting where his cousin died,

  • 43:54

    right? Got it. Broad daylight by the mall over there. In California.

  • 44:02

    I get it, man. I hate this situation so much. I don't... The position is

  • 44:07

    artists' lyrics shouldn't be used against them. I understand why people, when people are dying

  • 44:13

    and rappers are rapping about dumb shit or rapping that they did some shit, I'm

  • 44:16

    not saying he did this, I'm not talking about this case, I'm saying in general,

  • 44:18

    when rappers say shit that implicates themselves in others, I get why courts wanna use

  • 44:23

    it, I get why the victims' families wanna use it, but we gotta hold a

  • 44:27

    standard here, because I think the risk outweighs the reward. Yeah, agreed. I

  • 44:33

    mean, it's been like that since the Star Spangled Banner, though. I

  • 44:39

    mean... The lyrics. Keeping it too real, the lyrics. Yeah, like when you go and

  • 44:44

    you get a good win... Yeah. Gotta run back and let them go. Normally, since

  • 44:49

    the beginning of the time, they put it in a song. These songs ain't just

  • 44:52

    songs. It's testimony. I never even thought I'd tie it together with the Star Spangled

  • 44:57

    Banner for you not wrong. The bombs bursting in there. What did they do? They

  • 45:00

    went right to the boot. Fuck some shit up. That's a great... And the third

  • 45:04

    verse. Third verse. Third verse. Third verse is the what? That's the silent track.

  • 45:10

    The third verse. That's the what? But where does it stop? And that's the danger

  • 45:14

    with it. Then what is, like, where does it stop if they can use, you

  • 45:18

    know what I mean? Yeah. No, it's the slippery slope. I'm on the fence, but

  • 45:24

    I think that you should have enough. And we got to define slippery slope soon.

  • 45:29

    If they allowing you to use lyrics, right, where do they have a cutoff? Like,

  • 45:34

    any lyric to any rapper that comes in here and said, Jadakiss said, yo, they

  • 45:38

    had to use the scales that they weighted wells with for my coke. Like, come

  • 45:43

    on, if you want to digest, like, if you want to set precedent in court,

  • 45:47

    then case law is going to be case law. And now we could go take,

  • 45:51

    yo, Indiana versus blah, blah, blah in 1922 said that we could do this. And

  • 45:55

    that shit is scary. See, that's why I don't look at it that way. Because,

  • 46:01

    again, you still got to prove this stuff. So if I say this in record,

  • 46:05

    like your Jadakiss example, all right, now, did they run it? Did they see? Did

  • 46:08

    they find these scales? Did they find this coat? Where's the whale? Where's the whale?

  • 46:13

    Like, you get what I'm saying? With these lyrics, y'all are describing shit that you

  • 46:17

    went and did down to the letter. And that's right. So now because you did

  • 46:21

    this, oh, you talking about the murder right here that happened on this corner at

  • 46:25

    this time on this day. You just detailed it. That's what I mean about slippery

  • 46:30

    slope. You know what a slippery slope is? Blood on the floor. That's slippery.

  • 46:36

    Look what we talking about. No, I'm just saying. No, that's why I said I'm

  • 46:39

    on the fence because I can understand. In your rap, you are detailing. I caught

  • 46:43

    him at the corner store. It was blah, blah, blah. Bro, I just think you

  • 46:48

    got to have more sense and discernment than to put that in your fucking rap.

  • 46:51

    But my problem is if you do, like there are rappers who are hyper specific.

  • 46:56

    about their raps or they give details that sound real even in fiction. True. Right.

  • 47:01

    You know, and so I don't want to put that on those rappers. Again, I

  • 47:04

    understand. Don't do that. If you're a rapper out there and you're committing crimes, don't

  • 47:07

    rap about them before, during, or after the crime. That's pretty good advice. This is

  • 47:11

    solid advice. You know what I'm saying? But I don't want to, because the problem

  • 47:14

    with, for me, the problem with letting it in and saying you still got to

  • 47:17

    prove it is I don't want illegal evidence being used against me in court because

  • 47:20

    I don't trust jurors. And I don't want the juror to have to decide, especially

  • 47:24

    a juror that doesn't understand rap, You know what I'm saying? Whether this is an

  • 47:28

    obvious crime or not. Because obvious to me is different than obvious to somebody else.

  • 47:32

    Somebody might really... Big is a good example. My homie Gutter kidnapped kids. Like, he

  • 47:37

    don't. Right. You know what I mean? And what he said he did to them

  • 47:41

    kids? To a juror, that could sound hyper-specific. No, that's a great point. And then

  • 47:46

    on top of the fact that this is a juror that... Because he said that

  • 47:51

    in enough songs to where I can't just assume that that's not what Gutter was

  • 47:55

    doing. But that's the point. Let's say he's never getting that for kid in his

  • 47:59

    life. He put that shit in a secret Juicyverse. He was just saying that shit

  • 48:04

    in Man, yo, did I tell you about Gutter? He fucking asked me. I don't

  • 48:09

    know what Mark's saying. If the juror doesn't like rap, if the juror's grossed out

  • 48:14

    by curse words, because if you don't listen, and let's say the juror does like

  • 48:19

    rap, but it's a run DMC fan. You know what I mean? This shit is

  • 48:22

    pretty gross to them regardless because of how violent it is. So now that perception

  • 48:27

    is, I'm totally judging this guy. On top of the fact that he got dreadlocks.

  • 48:30

    He has a record already. You know what I mean? It's no way that this

  • 48:35

    pans out as fair in my opinion. It's unbiased. It's no way. It's impossible. I

  • 48:39

    agree. And you know that's the jury selection game. Of course. We watch enough shit

  • 48:43

    to be like, nope, we gonna go get this 70-year-old white lady over here from

  • 48:48

    fucking... Livingston somewhere, and once she hears this as lyric, he's lost.

  • 48:54

    Or a 47-year-old podcaster. If I hear that shit in the right... It's different. You

  • 48:58

    come from North Philly, but... I'm with you, but I'm just saying, even for me,

  • 49:02

    if I hear something at this age, I might believe it. I might not use

  • 49:06

    it against him in court, because I don't want that to be the precedent, but

  • 49:08

    I'm just saying, the average person, you don't even got to be white and racist,

  • 49:11

    or white and suburban, or white and suburban. Take racists off the table. You don't

  • 49:14

    even have to be white and disconnected from our culture. You could just be an

  • 49:17

    adult that's like... Why the fuck are you rapping about killing people and putting in

  • 49:20

    songs? Like that shit is probably, they just think you're a dickhead. Everything y'all are

  • 49:24

    saying are the reasons why you have to talk yourself out of murdering people when

  • 49:29

    you want to. This is true. Especially if you're famous.

  • 49:36

    Yeah. No bounties. Man, law's the law. If we file on it, we're going to

  • 49:41

    do things according to the law. That just doesn't make any fucking sense. And then

  • 49:45

    where does it stop? Document tours? Are you going to lock them up? Comedians, if

  • 49:49

    it's a joke or whatever, you're going to lock them up? Where does it stop

  • 49:52

    at? Podcasts? We up here talking shit all the time. We not detail... Yeah, we're

  • 49:57

    not detailing, but so what? So what? Here come the street apologists. Here come the

  • 50:02

    fucking street apologists now. What street principles are we

  • 50:07

    defending right now that we should be able to murder and go on? That has

  • 50:11

    nothing to do with the law. I'm talking about how do you have a chance

  • 50:14

    to fucking win if we have this group of jurors that don't know shit about

  • 50:18

    music, don't know shit about where this person comes from. I just don't see how

  • 50:21

    that's a fair outcome. How? How? I'm grossed out by the fact that you're talking

  • 50:25

    about murder, period. I'm talking, like, that's gross. Why are you talking like that? I

  • 50:29

    don't see how you get a fair outcome After that. And then how do you

  • 50:33

    pick the jurors that understand the culture? It doesn't make any sense. You don't have

  • 50:38

    to be a street nothing for that. It's already set up for certain people to

  • 50:43

    lose anyway. I just think this furthers it. It's not fair, in my opinion. Especially

  • 50:48

    if at the end of the day, if you've really got a case, you ain't

  • 50:49

    got to listen to a nigga lyrics. If you have a real solid case, you

  • 50:53

    don't need lyrics to close the deal. You don't. If you have a real case.

  • 50:56

    That's a good point. Period. From the shit that I've seen they got on him

  • 50:59

    with this murder fire and shit. Going to go buy them chains. Them niggas all

  • 51:02

    run out that house and all that. If they have a real case, they got

  • 51:04

    a real case. We don't need a fucking mixtape for it. It won't anything. Come

  • 51:08

    on now. But I get what you're saying. If a mixtape is a deal breaker,

  • 51:12

    you probably ain't got a good case. Period. Yeah. And it's not. From what I've

  • 51:16

    seen, he's fucked either way. So I don't even know what the big fight is

  • 51:20

    about the lyrics. He is fucked. If you're talking about booking the planes for these

  • 51:25

    niggas on your own card, like he made a lot of like huge, you know

  • 51:29

    what I mean? Like huge fumbles. That's a legend. That's not the case, but it's

  • 51:31

    a legend. I mean, we say that on podcasts and then fucking that lawyer Drew

  • 51:37

    go read that shit and be like, oh. It's different. Piece of cake. Yeah, Drew's

  • 51:43

    a beast. It's Drew. It's one more of them. It's a few of them that's

  • 51:47

    just having their way with the states out there. Yeah. I just saw an interview

  • 51:51

    when I think it was Drew, and the person said, was talking about the conviction

  • 51:54

    rate with the feds, because it's like 97%. He was like, not us. Not with

  • 51:58

    me. Damn. Talk heavy, nigga. Talk about a flex. Talk heavy. Yeah, that's crazy.

  • 52:04

    Give me some more of your nigga dollars. Come on over here. I got a

  • 52:08

    great... You can have all them nigga dollars if I go home nigga. You ain't

  • 52:12

    lying. What you talking about? Let me catch a case. As a Dirk fan, super

  • 52:16

    disappointed. I'll do my best. Especially after he caught that case with Vine and it

  • 52:21

    was supposed to be over then. In some kind of way he weaseled his fucking

  • 52:24

    way out of that. I just don't get how you get to this point and

  • 52:27

    you're that fucking stupid. It's dumb. Bring back the good old days where you wanted

  • 52:31

    to be a rapper to escape these things. Right.

  • 52:37

    Not double and triple down. Yeah. And they're the originators of that. I know y'all

  • 52:42

    saying the Star Spangled Banner and all that, but Chicago was the originator of like

  • 52:46

    just blatantly just being crazy with it. You know what I mean? I

  • 52:50

    agree. Yeah. They talked about a lot and I'm a fan of the music, so

  • 52:55

    I know. Yeah. Y'all looking for me to say something

  • 53:01

    spectacular? I was asking you what time it was. I think you're going to tell

  • 53:03

    us your favorite part of the show. I was asking you what time it was,

  • 53:05

    man. Oh, oh can somebody say something happier first like god

  • 53:09

    damn or not all right and it's time for my

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  • 53:20

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  • 54:29

    That ish. Nice. Yeah, that's what's up. Have you been getting a lot of feedback

  • 54:35

    from the fans all over on our subgroups and stuff? They've been saying like, ish

  • 54:39

    hits pick. Ish, picks hit. I don't really be over

  • 54:44

    there. You might be up for a podcast of the month twice in a row

  • 54:50

    because of these picks. Between your performance and these picks, man, I think you might

  • 54:53

    be wearing that chain another 30 days. Got you. The chain, all that. That

  • 54:59

    shit's fire. After, after all, man. I know. They did the same thing to me,

  • 55:03

    Mona. It's bullshit. Yeah. It's what it is. I don't even care about that shit.

  • 55:09

    Yo, you so funny, dog. You should have gave us chains. Me and Mark would

  • 55:11

    have wore that shit. Yep. Or sold them. I would have sold it, but yeah.

  • 55:15

    Damn, Mark. Mark never going to beat them nigga allegations. I can see itch winning

  • 55:20

    again. I think he might. The world don't know he a nigga. Yeah, they don't.

  • 55:24

    The masses don't know that Mark's a nigga. Even after the chicken shit came out.

  • 55:30

    They slept that right under the rug. The chicken shit? Yeah. That should have told

  • 55:33

    you. I walked in this morning and he was stashing. That's different. That's Ramadan stashing.

  • 55:38

    That's stashing so that when sunset hits, I'll have food available. That's loud stashing. Yeah,

  • 55:43

    exactly. I paid for it. I'm just putting it away. The first time, that was

  • 55:46

    just regular stealing. It's like that scamming conversation. It's a hilarious show. But yeah, I

  • 55:52

    see Ishwin. I think he's going to get this month again. I could see it.

  • 55:58

    I could only see one thing holding him back. Talking?

  • 56:07

    Oh, shit. Yo. That was your man. Having something to say. Oh, wow.

  • 56:11

    This is terrible. I mean, I had some free

  • 56:17

    time. I'm going to let it go. Eventually.

  • 56:24

    But in your free time. Honestly, that whole system is fucked because he shouldn't be

  • 56:28

    allowed to be part of the month ever. And it should come with cash prizes.

  • 56:35

    Why would you strive to get it if you're not getting no fucking money? She

  • 56:38

    saw your joke. She was like, I'm doing a bit. I couldn't fucking tell.

  • 56:44

    I know. I'm slow walking it because he'll get an attitude if I do it

  • 56:47

    fast. Sweet, nigga. All right. I only see one thing holding him back.

  • 56:54

    Take two. Take two. Oh, my Lord. Come on. Somebody ask me.

  • 57:00

    What do you see holding him back, Joe? Listen, I had some free time, and

  • 57:04

    I did look up child prodigy. Oh, shit. I know. This is where

  • 57:10

    you were going. I would have never allowed this. I looked at... Shut the fuck

  • 57:14

    up, Mark. So, yeah, I don't know now. Yeah.

  • 57:20

    Well, what is it? What is the definition? Well. Really?

  • 57:27

    I don't, but Ice is a dick, too, because you're being a dick. All right,

  • 57:31

    I got it for you. I'll be in it. Right here. And then we can

  • 57:34

    find something fun. I just think you go somewhere else. After the definition, I have

  • 57:37

    a question. You can ask the question while he looks. Yeah. With child prodigies.

  • 57:43

    When they grow, what is next? Is it an automatic? Teenage prodigy.

  • 57:49

    Okay. And then adult prodigy. Yeah. I think that's the word operation. At some point,

  • 57:52

    you're not a prodigy. You're just dope, right? Oh, that's true. Like Stevie Wonder was

  • 57:56

    a child prodigy. Now he's a legend. Now he's Stevie Wonder. A child prodigy is

  • 58:00

    defined as a person under the age of 10 who produces meaningful, expert-level work in

  • 58:06

    a specific domain such as music, mathematics, or art, often possessing high

  • 58:11

    intelligence and intense, rage to master their craft and exceptional memory. These rare

  • 58:17

    individuals estimated at one in five to 10 million often

  • 58:23

    cluster in rules based fields. Okay. The end.

  • 58:29

    Okay. What's your point, Joe? So Ish was bright.

  • 58:38

    Still is. And is bright. He's a goddamn genius.

  • 58:45

    Yeah. Child prodigies is not for sports, too? That's not a sport thing? It might

  • 58:50

    be. I don't know. Yeah, it could be. I need to know what... Like LeBron

  • 58:55

    James was a child prodigy. It's people that play chess and they were... Right, because

  • 58:59

    they say a rule-based sports. With you is what? Math. Mathematics, okay.

  • 59:05

    See, I just straight assumed some basketball shit. No, that's cool, though. That's racist. That's

  • 59:08

    my bad. He's not even dark enough. He's not even dark enough. Yo, you're

  • 59:14

    so stupid, yo. You're a fool, bro. So you were a mathematics prodigy?

  • 59:21

    Can we get this off of me, bro? She asked what your area was. I'm

  • 59:24

    cool. Yeah, he's a mathematics prodigy. Okay, shit. Ain't nobody taking that for my boy?

  • 59:29

    Pull some algebra out. Watch what this nigga do to him. He's dribbling down.

  • 59:37

    You think he's going to backpedal? I thought I was going to come in here

  • 59:40

    and read the definition. He'd be like, all right. Do you know? I thought he

  • 59:46

    would. I didn't know what it meant. Let me settle this matter. You stick to

  • 59:51

    it even when they say the 5 to 30 million people thing? Yes. That don't...

  • 59:56

    Do nothing for you. He could have been one of those numbers. That's my final

  • 59:59

    question, and I'm done. I promise. I swear to God I'm done. Yo, dog, why

  • 1:00:02

    do people put they own shit on somebody else? Take that. I'm

  • 1:00:08

    just saying. So just because somebody else wasn't great or you don't know that many

  • 1:00:12

    great people, that don't mean that somebody that you know or you came in contact

  • 1:00:15

    with could be great just because you may not recognize their greatness. Just because you

  • 1:00:20

    was always in detention, bum. No, I was in detention too. He was developing new

  • 1:00:24

    mathematical quantum principles. He was in that motherfucker. They call him Pythagoras around

  • 1:00:30

    in that Newark bed. They call him Pythagoras. That was his first street name.

  • 1:00:37

    They don't know what that is. See what I'm saying? I don't know what a

  • 1:00:41

    Pythagoras is. You're a fool, bro. I was an MG-ish. I was an MG.

  • 1:00:48

    What is MG? Mentally gifted. It's a place where mentally gifted kids go. They call

  • 1:00:53

    it I scored high on testing. They call it GT. GT, yeah. Gifted and talented.

  • 1:00:58

    Okay, yeah, I was in that. Prodigies are about that. Why we can't ask this

  • 1:01:02

    regular question? Because he's offensive to him. I'm learning listening to y'all. You

  • 1:01:08

    lucky this nigga speak to y'all. You might have had behavior issues or something. I

  • 1:01:12

    don't know. I did. But I still did. Damn. We got to talk to the

  • 1:01:17

    mom and them for what? Lock that shit in. Oh, boy, bro. We need a

  • 1:01:21

    fucking yearbook. For the fans out there, let me just settle this matter so that

  • 1:01:24

    y'all don't fuck with Isha every week. It was... He... I was a mentally gifted

  • 1:01:30

    student. He didn't mean child prodigy literally. He's gifted. So instead of picking on the

  • 1:01:36

    word prodigy, just focus on the fact that he was saying that he was a

  • 1:01:38

    very talented, gifted young man who got shot. No, he's a child

  • 1:01:43

    motherfucker. Scratch all that shit. This nigga here with the green eyes was a child

  • 1:01:48

    prodigy. If he wasn't, I think he's an adult prodigy. The only one in the

  • 1:01:50

    whole state of New Jersey according to those numbers. Straight up. The only fucking

  • 1:01:56

    child prodigy In fucking New Jersey. In math. In math. Who else puts things to

  • 1:02:03

    bed like us? We did that one. Come on, listen. The league got together to

  • 1:02:08

    discuss new ways to not incentivize losing. The tanking matter is getting out of hand.

  • 1:02:15

    Even though they fined two teams the other week $800,000, $500,000. Did they? Yeah, they

  • 1:02:20

    did. Billionaires don't give a fuck. Ooh, you fined us. Yeah.

  • 1:02:26

    So they did have a meeting to discuss ways to fix that. And I thought

  • 1:02:31

    some of them were pretty interesting. And to be clear, Adam Silver told the league

  • 1:02:34

    there will be a change next year. While they haven't worked out the rules, he

  • 1:02:37

    said something's going to happen. He told all 30 of the GMs something's going to

  • 1:02:40

    happen next year. And these were some of the ones they considered. Let's hear it.

  • 1:02:45

    First round picks can be protected only top four or top 14. That's a big

  • 1:02:50

    one. Okay. Right? Okay. lottery, and that's probably the most likely one to me, lottery

  • 1:02:54

    odds freeze at the trade deadline or a later date. That's going to happen. That's

  • 1:02:59

    definitely going to happen. I think the next few, the first half of these, I

  • 1:03:02

    can see 100% happening. Yeah. The lottery odds freeze. Freeze at the trade deadline. I

  • 1:03:07

    don't love that, and I'll tell you, I think it's going to happen, but I

  • 1:03:09

    don't love it because sometimes you really do get a catastrophic injury. I mean, as

  • 1:03:12

    a Philadelphian who knows tanking but also no injury, if Joel Embiid slips on a

  • 1:03:18

    banana peel in February, which he will, you know what I mean, a lot of

  • 1:03:21

    years, and then suddenly I go from being in second place to being in 12th

  • 1:03:24

    place, to me, that's not tanking. Like, that shit happens. That's the only thing. You

  • 1:03:28

    can get bad luck in the second half of a season. Or we've seen teams

  • 1:03:32

    do the exact opposite, where the beginning of the season, they playing like shit, and

  • 1:03:36

    then they just go on this 30-3 streak post- All-Star

  • 1:03:42

    game. Now what do we do? Right. But you still, if you make the playoffs,

  • 1:03:45

    you still don't get, it don't matter, right? But if you miss it by one

  • 1:03:48

    game, But if they cap it right at All-Star, right before... Your lottery odds. But

  • 1:03:54

    if you make the playoffs, your lottery odds are moot. But where it gets interesting

  • 1:03:59

    is they also are considering adding play-in teams. So if you lose the play-in, that

  • 1:04:02

    also gets added in. The lottery odds are extended to the play-in teams. Okay. But

  • 1:04:09

    what else? No longer allowing a team to pick top four in consecutive years. This

  • 1:04:14

    is the set that I love. This is the set Joe's talking about. I love

  • 1:04:16

    this whole set. That's that Philly shit. And or... Fuck off. And or after consecutive

  • 1:04:22

    bottom three finishes. Yeah. Yep. I don't know. And the next one. Yeah.

  • 1:04:28

    And then the next one. So, but just for that clear, that one's, yeah, I

  • 1:04:31

    mean, that's, it gets good, except I don't know. I'm thinking about Golden State, the

  • 1:04:35

    year where they got, they got Steph, they got Klay and they got Draymond, right?

  • 1:04:40

    No, Steph playing. Who was the third? There was another. My point is they built

  • 1:04:43

    the team honestly. They just weren't ready to win yet. And so they got three

  • 1:04:46

    lottery. But they weren't tanking. They just weren't ready to win yet. That's the only

  • 1:04:49

    thing I don't like. As opposed to the Sixers who were kind of losing on

  • 1:04:51

    purpose. Teams can't pick top four the year after making conference finals.

  • 1:04:56

    Yeah. Oh, wow. That's a super interesting one. I love that one. I can't pick

  • 1:04:59

    top four. I don't like that one. I don't like it either. You said you

  • 1:05:03

    don't? I don't like it because what happens is teams are out here making deals.

  • 1:05:07

    Yeah. Right. So I might trade parks in 2022 and I might get a first

  • 1:05:12

    rounder in 2027. We didn't we weren't that when we traded for that first round

  • 1:05:18

    in 2022. He wasn't shit. But now we might go a kick up. Now you're

  • 1:05:22

    going to penalize us for being good and take away our first round pick. I

  • 1:05:24

    don't think that's fair. No, not take away your first round pick. I mean, you

  • 1:05:27

    can't get a top four pick. And any team that makes the conference final typically

  • 1:05:32

    wouldn't get. a top four pick. However, we have to bar against some of this

  • 1:05:36

    shit that the Mavs did. The Mavs went to the finals and then the very

  • 1:05:40

    next year, no. But look, that's not based on lottery. That's based on

  • 1:05:46

    trades that we made. I'm not sure this rules for the trade situation you're talking

  • 1:05:49

    about. Four or five years ago. You get what I'm saying? I get what you're

  • 1:05:51

    saying. But the Mavs made the finals and then got high lottery picks the next

  • 1:05:55

    year. Y'all are talking past each other. I think... The situation you're talking about is

  • 1:06:00

    like Boston, when they kept winning, but we gave a terrible trade for Markel Fultz

  • 1:06:03

    and they had our lottery pick, even though they were winning. I don't think this

  • 1:06:06

    rule is for we have a pick that we got from a trade later on.

  • 1:06:10

    I think it's saying if you're in the conference finals, you can't lose your way

  • 1:06:14

    into a top four pick the next year. Well, I think they are saying that,

  • 1:06:17

    which is where the top four protected rule will come in. Yo, would you even

  • 1:06:22

    be able to? You can't do it. If you win the conference finals, you can't

  • 1:06:25

    lose your way into the top four pick. Because you don't get won in a

  • 1:06:26

    lottery ball. No, the following year. The following year, guys. The following year. So like

  • 1:06:30

    this year, I make the conference finals. The next year you take. This is the

  • 1:06:33

    situation they're working about. Teams that get right up to the limit, and they know

  • 1:06:36

    they're not going to ever win a championship. They got veteran players. They're older. We're

  • 1:06:39

    not going to win a championship. So they take the next season. So it's like,

  • 1:06:41

    fuck it. Let's rebuild. OK. They're trying to stop that team. Let's rest our aging

  • 1:06:45

    players that might help us win, i.e. exactly what Washington is doing right now. Exactly.

  • 1:06:50

    If they were able to win and get, if winning were a part of this

  • 1:06:54

    process, Trae Young would be on the floor. And he's going to do something about

  • 1:06:59

    trading for injured players to affect your cap and affect who's able to play.

  • 1:07:05

    Now, teams are actively trading for injured players to sit them down so they can

  • 1:07:08

    tank. They're doing a lot. There's a lot going on. Even Kyrie. Kyrie can probably

  • 1:07:11

    play the last 10 games of this year, 20 games, but that's not going to

  • 1:07:14

    help Dallas' situation. So they're like, we're just going to come back next year. Yeah.

  • 1:07:17

    So again, the conference thing bothers me again because you can have a catastrophic injury

  • 1:07:21

    on a player. Things can happen. But I get the logic of it because teams

  • 1:07:24

    are really exploiting this shit. Lottery odds allocated based on two-year records.

  • 1:07:30

    Yeah. That's better. That's better. Unless you've been tanking. I was just going to say,

  • 1:07:36

    you still tank. If you look at the Sixers example... You take for longer than

  • 1:07:41

    two years. Y'all was getting them every year, yo. Y'all had a good run of

  • 1:07:44

    like five years of just getting top three picks and not doing shit with them.

  • 1:07:47

    Still blew them. Well, I wouldn't say not doing shit with them. Fuck y'all. But

  • 1:07:50

    I get your point. But your points will. Still blew them. And B was a

  • 1:07:53

    pretty good pick. One. Yeah, keep going. Who else? We had three top... Fultz,

  • 1:07:59

    Ben Simmons, and B. They were all in a row, but I get your point.

  • 1:08:00

    We're not unpacked the Sixers process. We're not. I'm just saying, not to make it

  • 1:08:04

    about the Sixers, I'm saying the point is... It wasn't just about who they were

  • 1:08:07

    picking. It's about teams drafting injured guys. It's about not having any veterans on the

  • 1:08:11

    team. It's about creating a culture of losing. To me, the Sixers' problem wasn't so

  • 1:08:14

    much the tanking. It was all the other things attached to it. that just made

  • 1:08:17

    it really bad. And that's why Hinckley was, Sam Hinckley was eventually let go among

  • 1:08:21

    other reasons. Well he quit, but among other reasons he was pushed out was because

  • 1:08:25

    the league doesn't want to create a culture of losing. And it's not good for

  • 1:08:27

    young players to be in situations where they're not around anybody who's even trying to

  • 1:08:30

    win. Cause as some of the veteran players will tell you like five, six years

  • 1:08:33

    in, if you don't know how to win, you never worked to win. It's hard

  • 1:08:35

    to just become a winner. Even if you have the talent. Lottery extended to include

  • 1:08:40

    all playing teams we said, and then flatten the odds for all lottery teams. That's

  • 1:08:44

    an interesting one. Flatten the odds. it'd be like pre-1985, pre-Patrick Ewing.

  • 1:08:50

    Was it 85? It was after the Patrick Ewing draft that they added the lottery.

  • 1:08:53

    So the idea would be that whether you had the worst record or the... Yeah,

  • 1:08:58

    but then it was another year where the Knicks had the worst record. That was

  • 1:09:02

    the first year they implemented the new system of, all right, it doesn't just go

  • 1:09:06

    to the most losing team. It's like the Knicks will be getting fucked on so

  • 1:09:11

    many different fronts. Yeah, but I like the idea of flattening it because then it's

  • 1:09:14

    like, Again, you want to try to win because no one wants to necessarily lose

  • 1:09:17

    out on purpose to get the 14th pick in the draft. But if you knew

  • 1:09:21

    you had a shot at the number one, you will. And so... Why don't they...

  • 1:09:25

    Help me out because I don't follow the draft like that. Why not just the

  • 1:09:29

    teams that don't make the playoffs... Y'all go into a, what's the little rolling ball

  • 1:09:34

    shit? And you pick out. They do, but what happens is if you have the

  • 1:09:38

    worst team, you get way more balls. You're saying, why is it that? I'm saying,

  • 1:09:42

    yeah, why that? Why not one ball per team? To make it, because it makes

  • 1:09:47

    it unfair. You know, if I'm 0-82 and you're 41-41 and you missed the playoffs

  • 1:09:52

    by half a game in the West. Now you get the first pick. And then

  • 1:09:54

    you get the first pick. The rich get richer. I mean, that was the logic

  • 1:09:59

    of it. It ain't guaranteed. That's just... But you try to create a level of

  • 1:10:02

    parity in the league to make the league competitive. So if you just missed the

  • 1:10:05

    playoffs and I'm ass and I still go to be ass and now you get

  • 1:10:09

    the first player to draft, The teams that ain't shit, they still ain't shit. I

  • 1:10:13

    get it. And the reason for ice was because... Pass the fucking ball! Goddamn.

  • 1:10:19

    Pass the fucking ball! What the fuck is going on? Pass the fucking ball! Pass

  • 1:10:24

    the fucking ball! I hate this guy. Stop! Damn! Pass the fucking ball! The first

  • 1:10:28

    time I heard it and it wasn't for me. So... That was enjoyable. The Knicks

  • 1:10:34

    get stomped out again. I saw you at the game. That's why they got stomped

  • 1:10:38

    out. I'm not making a correlation. That's the right word, right? Mathematically. That's what they

  • 1:10:42

    say when he comes, they lose, right? But I just know that when Joe goes

  • 1:10:45

    to the game, they lose. The Knicks' victories seem to be lower. When Pop goes

  • 1:10:50

    to the game, Joe's father's here, they have an extraordinary record. That's wild. And last

  • 1:10:55

    night I saw on Instagram that you were at the game, and I was thinking,

  • 1:10:59

    the Knicks should win this game. This is a winnable game for the Knicks. It

  • 1:11:01

    was favored to win it. Y'all were favored to win it. If there were ever

  • 1:11:04

    a game where I had to put my poker chips to the center of the

  • 1:11:06

    table, it would have been that one. Yeah. And then you sat down in your

  • 1:11:09

    seats, and what happened? And we lost. You would think of real love or the

  • 1:11:13

    Knicks wouldn't go. We lost. Not just the loss. We got blown out again. Wasn't

  • 1:11:18

    close. Out-tuffed. If you loved the team, you would think you wouldn't go. You wouldn't

  • 1:11:23

    sacrifice your team for date night. That's what it said. Hashtag date night. When did

  • 1:11:28

    it say that? I didn't see that. I seen it. I seen it. Oh, my

  • 1:11:30

    baby must put that. That was no shot. I love you, baby. Love you, baby.

  • 1:11:34

    Love you, too. Yeah, no, they lost. They lost. All the Pistons fans are talking

  • 1:11:40

    shit. They in their bag. Listen, we may be in the middle of Cade's MVP

  • 1:11:47

    season just by way of, he's earning that, but also by way of default because

  • 1:11:52

    nobody else will be eligible for the MVP. Oh, yeah. Joker, not. SGA,

  • 1:11:58

    no. Wemby, no. Not enough games. Yeah, not enough games. the new rules.

  • 1:12:04

    So if I have to vote for what's left, it looks like Kawhi versus Cade.

  • 1:12:11

    And they both killing. They both killing? Yeah. They both killing. Yeah, he dropped 40-whatever

  • 1:12:15

    points on our head top last night. I still don't think Detroit... Don't forget the

  • 1:12:18

    assists and the rebounds. I still don't think... Yeah, yeah. He did a lot. I

  • 1:12:23

    still don't think Detroit is scary, but... Dog,

  • 1:12:29

    last year we never beat Boston the whole regular season. Beat them in the playoffs.

  • 1:12:33

    We never beat, it was another team we never beat all last year. So I'm

  • 1:12:35

    not gonna make too much of this, but it was depressing. It was depressing. I

  • 1:12:41

    was ready to leave with 10 minutes left in the quarter, but then my driver

  • 1:12:44

    parked wherever the fuck he parked at. Now I had to sit in this blowout.

  • 1:12:48

    I'm like, yo, so, we ready? He like, I'm gonna need 15 minutes. I'm like,

  • 1:12:52

    it's six minutes left in a blowout, dog. Get here, please. Jesus. Jesus.

  • 1:12:58

    And in other basketball news, I got to give LaMelo Ball the award for the

  • 1:13:03

    coolest car accident I ever saw in my life. What a way to ram an

  • 1:13:07

    innocent driver off the road. Nah, he did that so smooth in that

  • 1:13:13

    camouflage Lego-looking Hummer and then had the Hornets people pull up,

  • 1:13:19

    talk to the cops, pull up the Uris. I'm going to hop in the Uris

  • 1:13:23

    and drive away while y'all handle that. You got to give this young guy all

  • 1:13:26

    the credit in the world for being smooth and reckless. And rich. Because

  • 1:13:32

    they showed all the cameras. Yeah, that was a bad driving. It was you. It

  • 1:13:37

    was you. He might have been getting his dick sucked. He might have been texting.

  • 1:13:41

    He was debating what was happening in that car. He was doing something in that

  • 1:13:44

    car. He was distracted. What else is he trying to do in Charlotte but get

  • 1:13:47

    your dick sucked while you're driving? And that's where they do it with the ease,

  • 1:13:51

    too. For real. In Charlotte? With the ease had the heady

  • 1:13:57

    monsters come out. What? I thought about moving to fucking Charlotte. Are

  • 1:14:03

    you shitting me? They got him. Off the humble. They got him. Yeah. Yeah. You

  • 1:14:08

    ain't going to tell me. I'm sure. Just glad everybody's safe. Indeed. Exactly. And faithful.

  • 1:14:14

    Of course. And faithful. I'm sure it was. Go LaMelo Ball. Way to do it.

  • 1:14:18

    If I'd have been the other dude, I'd have been pissed. Why? That's why you

  • 1:14:21

    got to keep a bat. That's why you got to keep a bat in the

  • 1:14:22

    car for times like that. Joe, you seen who it was. When you seen the

  • 1:14:27

    Hornets pull up, we good. We gravy. We good. Oh, actually, my neck hurts and

  • 1:14:31

    my back hurts. Facts. What? Yeah, I'm at the hospital. And I'm traumatized. And I

  • 1:14:35

    can never go back to work again. I know. I can't drive. I'm walking with

  • 1:14:38

    a limp. The only way to fix that is to... I had one side with

  • 1:14:40

    some spanky. That's true. That's what you're talking about. I'm good. That's why we took

  • 1:14:45

    care of you after your basketball injury, man. Good folks over at JVP Insurance. Anyway.

  • 1:14:50

    Look at his face. He didn't get an ice pack. He's so confused. Anyway, speaking

  • 1:14:54

    of walking with a limp, there's a few things that I do have to walk

  • 1:14:57

    back from the last part. One, the

  • 1:15:03

    sexual assault and sexual abuse victim from the Tyra Banks, America's Next Top Model

  • 1:15:09

    doc. Uh-huh. We got to walk it all back. What happened? I've been watching America's

  • 1:15:13

    Next Top Model all week. I've been watching the interviews from that time. Okay.

  • 1:15:21

    This girl wanted it. I didn't want to say nothing. I didn't want to be

  • 1:15:25

    that guy because they'll rag you in the comments. Now I understand why. See, and

  • 1:15:29

    that's why women are tricky. That's why she never used those words. Okay.

  • 1:15:35

    Because she was very clear on camera saying, oh, we got these dudes coming

  • 1:15:41

    over. I'm fucking one of them. I got a boyfriend. Oh, before she was drinking.

  • 1:15:45

    Yeah, I got a boyfriend, but I don't care. She said, I drunk two bottles

  • 1:15:48

    of wine. I'm fucking ready. And then she did a few interviews where she was

  • 1:15:54

    talking about it around that time, and she said, yeah, I got laid some, smashed

  • 1:15:59

    some down. Wanted some, and I got some. Has she later said something different, or

  • 1:16:04

    is this just the documentary making it sound like she's saying something different? The documentary...

  • 1:16:09

    represents her and there's a few other girls from there that they have under investigation

  • 1:16:15

    now uh tyra swing back i don't know if it's tyra the producers somebody

  • 1:16:20

    somebody swinging yeah i would this is what happened you damn right i

  • 1:16:26

    was quiet like a church mom's because i don't want the beef but you knew

  • 1:16:29

    that the way you didn't see it no but i thought you didn't see it

  • 1:16:32

    but i heard all the I didn't see it, but the people told me. He's

  • 1:16:35

    a prodigy, man. You regular niggas got to see shit to know it. No, people

  • 1:16:40

    tell me about, you know, that's not my bag, but my friends watch all of

  • 1:16:43

    that shit, and they were saying it like, yo, dog, she was... She

  • 1:16:49

    wasn't coerced. It was consensual, the way that they said it. It was like, it

  • 1:16:53

    was consensual, but I didn't want to get up here and then, you know, in

  • 1:16:56

    this climate, you can't face the blame. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's important to

  • 1:16:59

    say that. It's one thing to be like... I'm not disagreeing with your decision, but

  • 1:17:04

    I think it's one thing if we just say, yeah, she wanted it, because that

  • 1:17:07

    sounds like we're saying like... Sounds K-Betty. That sounds very awful and disgusting. But if

  • 1:17:11

    we say there's evidence of her prior to being inebriated saying, I'm about to drink

  • 1:17:14

    and have sex with somebody. Yeah. I think that's a reasonable thing to introduce to

  • 1:17:18

    the conversation. I want to hear all the facts, but that doesn't sound crazy. I

  • 1:17:22

    get what you're saying, but we are in a climate of believe the victim, You

  • 1:17:28

    say anything else, you're part of the problem. But what I'm saying is it doesn't

  • 1:17:31

    sound like, and I didn't watch it yet, she didn't actually say anything different. It

  • 1:17:34

    sounds like the documentary is making her sound like she's saying something different. Yeah, they

  • 1:17:37

    just painted it. This isn't about believing the victim or not. It's about the documentary.

  • 1:17:39

    No, but I mean, they had her on there as well, painting the picture of.

  • 1:17:45

    Of S.A. And then y'all promoted my S.A. and made me call my man for

  • 1:17:50

    cheating. First got there and he went to all the ghosties. What do you guys

  • 1:17:52

    think about inviting them over for dinner and drinks? And we were like, duh. This

  • 1:17:57

    is her. Okay. Yes, especially because, like, the guy that drove me around

  • 1:18:04

    was so hot, and we had such a great connection, but he didn't end up

  • 1:18:08

    showing up. It was, like, the other guys. So I was a little disappointed at

  • 1:18:12

    first. Very different tone. And then I, because it was also, like, oh,

  • 1:18:17

    testosterone that, like, people, like, dudes that we could. I got home. And they're all

  • 1:18:22

    super hot. I'm an all-male college, so just imagine my struggle. Yeah, and they were

  • 1:18:25

    so nice. So, you know, I don't think I ate that night. And then

  • 1:18:31

    I think I had two bottles of wine by myself. And

  • 1:18:37

    then somebody's like, oh, whoa, the hot tub works.

  • 1:18:45

    What are you talking about? And then they were like, oh, let's get in. And

  • 1:18:49

    so we did. And then I see like, Mercedes and we have, you know, it's

  • 1:18:54

    crazy as we meet April Mercedes has conversation before we got in of like, let's

  • 1:18:59

    behave ourselves. So this is fucked up.

  • 1:19:05

    Yeah. Like I looked at this dude and he looked at me and he just

  • 1:19:09

    like grabbed me and I was like, let's do this.

  • 1:19:14

    And then April's like, I gotta go. I have a boyfriend. Bye. Which is what

  • 1:19:19

    I should have done. This is very different. And then, yeah. So one of her

  • 1:19:23

    homegirls left because she had a boyfriend. She even said what I should have done.

  • 1:19:27

    I said bye. There's more to this, but I don't need to play it. I

  • 1:19:30

    was still on the side of maybe we're wrong until the end when she was

  • 1:19:33

    like, yes, let's do this. That's clearly. That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because just thinking

  • 1:19:37

    a dude is hot or whatever does not mean that you were fucking... It's not

  • 1:19:40

    consent. I'm with Ice. We got to believe all victims. One.

  • 1:19:47

    But I've also had a hot tub before. I've had

  • 1:19:53

    in some hot tubs. I can tell you when a hot tub is around, it

  • 1:19:58

    kind of go like she was describing. Ooh, there's a hot tub. It work? Ooh.

  • 1:20:05

    Hot tub sex sucks. You got a t-shirt? Sucks. You got a little something? What'd

  • 1:20:09

    you say? Hot tub sex sucks. Yeah, but hot tub as a precursor to

  • 1:20:14

    sex. Hot tub sex don't suck either. What'd you say? I

  • 1:20:20

    just disagreed with her. That hot tub sex sucks. I'm not a fan of it.

  • 1:20:25

    I've never done it. What makes it suck? Sex and water in general. Sex and

  • 1:20:28

    water. Shower, yeah. Hot tub, nah. You already know. I'm like a smaller dick gal.

  • 1:20:34

    You know what I mean? You fucked in the hot tub a lot?

  • 1:20:40

    Mm-hmm. The one? Yeah. I'm so glad you did it

  • 1:20:45

    first. I think he's saying he fucked in your hot tub a lot. That is

  • 1:20:51

    what he's saying. That is exactly what he's saying. Yo, niggas was, ugh. Listen, man.

  • 1:20:56

    Niggas wasn't clean, niggas just jumped right in there the next day. Just fill that

  • 1:21:00

    bitch up. I was about to say, when you fuck somebody's hot tub, is the

  • 1:21:02

    rule, like, drain it? The hot

  • 1:21:08

    tub. Withdrawing, your honor. That was wild. Yeah, drain it. Yeah, drain

  • 1:21:14

    the tub. Drain the tub, yo. What the fuck is y'all talking about, man? They

  • 1:21:19

    think it was nasty. Ew. No. I don't know. Documentaries and stuff. That must have

  • 1:21:25

    been a nice hot tub.

  • 1:21:34

    That must have been the shit with the 12 jets. That must have been the

  • 1:21:38

    shit with the staircase. That must have been the hot tub premium plus.

  • 1:21:45

    No, you got to see this. I'm telling you, baby. No, come on. Yo, when

  • 1:21:50

    y'all do this, it make me seem like a horrible guy. You are a horrible

  • 1:21:55

    guy, motherfucker. Oh, God. What are you talking about? You want us to shield it.

  • 1:21:58

    No, be horrible, nigga. I want to get better. No, you don't. No, you don't.

  • 1:22:02

    Mona, you been fucking in the hot tub a lot? No, not a lot, but

  • 1:22:05

    I have. It's just ass. Or the blow up. to blow a potter? I've never

  • 1:22:09

    fucked in a blow a potter. I've never seen one. Y'all

  • 1:22:15

    just boil some water. You've fucked in the tub full of boiling water

  • 1:22:21

    before. Okay, now it seems like I'm all in the crowd. Okay, I'm done. I'll

  • 1:22:26

    finish that. That's crazy. That's my time. Well, I'm glad you clarified that. Yeah. Is

  • 1:22:31

    there any other Tyra doc fallout? I need to watch this thing. Yeah, you should.

  • 1:22:35

    When you watch the documentary, it's always in the eyes of the documentor. I'm a

  • 1:22:38

    big fan of documentaries. Whatever they trying to convey, that's what they convey, period. And

  • 1:22:42

    again, like I said, Rem has been telling me that TikTok has been on this

  • 1:22:46

    train that everything was horrible over there for a while. So they probably saw that

  • 1:22:49

    trend. It was like... we can paint this doc real quick and easy. It's been

  • 1:22:55

    like a thing on TikTok for years. Well, I mean, I'm not trying to take

  • 1:22:59

    them off the hook. There were 97 bad things that happened in the doc. I'm

  • 1:23:04

    walking back the SA part. You can't walk back to race swapping. Yeah, at all.

  • 1:23:09

    Because that explains why. Remember we came in and we were thrown off at their

  • 1:23:14

    reaction to this story for Early in the Front. Yeah. Versus how they responded to

  • 1:23:19

    some of the later drama, it was like something don't add up here. Maybe that's

  • 1:23:23

    why. They just looking at the horny white girl who wanted to smash the hot

  • 1:23:27

    delivery driver. And yo, white girls, y'all? Oh, God. Get with them. On

  • 1:23:33

    God, yo. I said, oh, God. White girls, because if they like one little thing

  • 1:23:39

    on you, is happening oh my god is that sweatshirt from CJ Maxx

  • 1:23:45

    they be ready to go are they still like that ish I have no idea

  • 1:23:50

    well you don't know now but do you think are they still on go like

  • 1:23:54

    that I think so yeah all of them I think so yeah shout out the

  • 1:24:00

    white girls for sure the white girls that's like escorty

  • 1:24:05

    that I wouldn't even cause nothing the spicy mayonnaise Hey, that's always nice.

  • 1:24:11

    Anyway. Anywho's. What else is important? Yo, just real quick. This will take 10 seconds.

  • 1:24:15

    I know y'all weren't fans of the Cat Williams doc. I mean, the Cat Williams

  • 1:24:18

    special. Some of y'all. If you can get past the first 15 minutes of it,

  • 1:24:22

    it actually turns into a very good comedy special. Oh, yeah? The last half hour

  • 1:24:27

    is as good as the first half is not good. Oh. Yeah. That's all. Because

  • 1:24:32

    I know a lot of people were saying they didn't get through it. It's... No,

  • 1:24:35

    I said... Go ahead. That's what I was saying. It actually gets very funny. And

  • 1:24:40

    I was very upset and disappointed. And then I kept going and it was great.

  • 1:24:43

    That's all. I want to watch the S'more stand-up. I watched it last night. Because

  • 1:24:47

    I absolutely love S'more. I love her, bitch. I watched it last night. And I

  • 1:24:50

    read something that said that she was catching heat over something. Yo, that's a good

  • 1:24:54

    way to make me watch whatever you got going on. For sure. Like, if I

  • 1:24:57

    see a publication say you catching heat over it, I'm running right to it. Contraversy.

  • 1:25:03

    S'more stand-up was good for our age group. That's the best way I could put

  • 1:25:07

    it. Samora's one of the funniest motherfuckers breathing in me. You could tell, like, a

  • 1:25:11

    lot of the jokes were old. It's for an older crowd. Were they funny? Yeah.

  • 1:25:15

    Samora, lucky. I wasn't frequenting these comedy shows back in the... I tell you. I

  • 1:25:21

    tell you what. I ain't always come off like I'm horny because I'm not. No,

  • 1:25:24

    no, no, no. No. Today. Today, right now? What? I haven't seen it. Yeah, she's

  • 1:25:30

    still got it. Watch it. Well, if we'd fuck Cher, we'd fuck Samora, right? Night

  • 1:25:34

    and day. Well... Yeah. Literally. This guy's great.

  • 1:25:40

    Day and night. There we go. But I do want to watch it. They said...

  • 1:25:46

    It says she was catching heat because there was a murder at a dollar store

  • 1:25:50

    in the town that she did the stand-up in. And in her stand-up, she was

  • 1:25:54

    like, if I ever get killed, and it's in the dollar store, just lie and

  • 1:25:59

    say that she was at CBS. That's good. I think that's

  • 1:26:04

    funny. It's a good joke. It is a good joke, but I can see why

  • 1:26:07

    somebody. Nah, see, I can see why. And this is why Dave Chappelle and Bill

  • 1:26:12

    Burr and them niggas lock your phone up when you come to the show. This

  • 1:26:15

    is the one place I should be able to be insensitive. I like my comedy

  • 1:26:20

    insensitive. I'm sorry. Obviously same. Yeah, like I'm good. I mean, there's lines, but that

  • 1:26:24

    ain't nowhere near the line. I can understand, though. I can understand the people

  • 1:26:30

    of that town, and I can understand somebody feeling a way about that, especially if

  • 1:26:34

    it just happened. If it just happened, I'm going to say the time. I'm just

  • 1:26:36

    saying I get it. I might not have felt that way, but I get it.

  • 1:26:39

    How fresh are we talking? If it was a week, or within the week. Is

  • 1:26:42

    the tape still up? A lot of people, a lot of comics, you get in

  • 1:26:48

    the city and you ask what's going on or you say where the ghetto at

  • 1:26:51

    because you want to throw a jab at. You know what I mean? Every show

  • 1:26:54

    I think I say the same thing like where you from or whatever. Oh, pick

  • 1:26:58

    your pocketbooks up because they didn't hear that side of town or whatever. But I

  • 1:27:01

    don't know. Me personally, I enjoy that kind of shit. That's why I was a

  • 1:27:06

    big fan of Paul Mooney because I heard that people would walk out during the

  • 1:27:08

    sets. That's what made me even interested in him. So I don't know. But as

  • 1:27:12

    far as people filming, every time I start, I ask people not to film in

  • 1:27:16

    every show. Somebody got the light. People not even smart enough to turn the fucking

  • 1:27:19

    light off. They just film you. They don't care. Niggas don't care. You going to

  • 1:27:22

    start doing the baggies when you... I'm not there yet. But I mean, when you

  • 1:27:25

    can. Is that something you would do? Yeah, for sure. I mean, this is the

  • 1:27:27

    thing about it, though, for real. You're going to like it more if I don't

  • 1:27:30

    feel like I'm taped. Like, I'm telling you, if I can get busy up here,

  • 1:27:32

    we're going to have fun. Like, me being taped, I have to watch my mouth,

  • 1:27:36

    period. I don't have to watch my mouth if y'all not taping me, so y'all

  • 1:27:38

    want to have fun or not. I pitch it just like that. And most of

  • 1:27:40

    the time, people still film it. They still do. And I legit turn light on.

  • 1:27:44

    Bitch, I embarrass people every show because it's stupid. Good for you. At least you

  • 1:27:48

    can do is cut the light off and be sneaky. Motherfuckers. Do you kick them

  • 1:27:51

    out? Second or third time, yeah. Oh, you give them multiple? If you keep going.

  • 1:27:56

    Yeah, yeah. Because I know, this is the thing about comedy. You want them saucy,

  • 1:27:59

    you want them to laugh. They saucy, so they're not listening. So, like, be real.

  • 1:28:02

    You know what I mean? Like, people don't listen. And they might not necessarily be

  • 1:28:06

    filming, like, the entirety of a joke. They might just be on some, I'm here

  • 1:28:10

    watching Mona show. You know what I think, though? I think that it's more like

  • 1:28:14

    my bestie couldn't come. I'm going to film the set for my friend. Filming the

  • 1:28:17

    set is crazy. Yeah, the whole set is nasty. Also, I don't want us to

  • 1:28:20

    be sitting there like the fucking cameraman for the whole show. I had people meet

  • 1:28:24

    through a show and people on FaceTime with somebody the whole time. By the time

  • 1:28:27

    they get to the meet group, she's right here when I first started. That would

  • 1:28:29

    happen a lot. I'm not going to lie. I've been to a concert where someone

  • 1:28:31

    was on FaceTime. Yeah, concerts all the time. People do it. That shit's annoying. Yeah,

  • 1:28:35

    it's weird. So, I don't know. Even when I find myself at events doing this

  • 1:28:39

    too long, I put it in my pocket because it's like, If you're throwing this,

  • 1:28:42

    you're trying to catch the view for your camera. You're not enjoying it. You're not

  • 1:28:44

    in the moment. Fuck them videos and have fun. You know what I mean? That's

  • 1:28:48

    my least favorite thing about shows now. It feels like so many people are not

  • 1:28:51

    in the moment. Everybody's making content. The great thing about that new edition show we

  • 1:28:55

    was at was that, because I guess it's our generation, there weren't a lot of

  • 1:28:58

    phones out. I was struck by how many phones were not out. Most of them

  • 1:29:01

    old niggas' phones is dead. Popping that flip phone over. Yeah, them motherfuckers get the...

  • 1:29:07

    Everybody I know went to that fucking show. Went... The new edition show. And everybody

  • 1:29:13

    had their phones out. That's the only way you know, because everybody down is doing

  • 1:29:16

    it for the gram. Yeah. Niggas is going on vacation for the gram, not for

  • 1:29:20

    relaxation. They just doing it to start. Restaurants, all that shit. And that's why every

  • 1:29:24

    time you have a night and you don't get no pictures, you know you had

  • 1:29:27

    a ball. That was the night. Facts. You know what I mean? If your outfit

  • 1:29:30

    good, you a little irritated that you didn't get a picture, but for the most

  • 1:29:32

    part, it's like, yeah, I had fun. I didn't get no pictures on my birthday.

  • 1:29:35

    Indeed. You didn't get no pictures on your birthday? Nah, no. I had to grab

  • 1:29:38

    them from other people's videos. I was looking for this comedian. I might go see

  • 1:29:43

    her show next month in the city in March. Are you going to go see

  • 1:29:47

    another woman comic? It's funny you sit with a woman comic all the time. I

  • 1:29:53

    mean, this one right here, though. Wow. You know?

  • 1:29:59

    That's my son here. I think she's funny. So you got a

  • 1:30:04

    football nigga. This is my son, yo. Ain't that something? Oh, she's a little fine

  • 1:30:08

    and funny. Wow. I just know she's funny. Ah, okay. That's awesome. And I've been

  • 1:30:14

    watching the people that I think are fun when they hit the road. I check

  • 1:30:19

    out the dates, see when they're going to be in New York. It's great because

  • 1:30:22

    you like to support people. It's amazing, especially women. Glamour, you know, like dating a

  • 1:30:27

    wealthy man, but do you know how exhausting it is constantly having to pretend that

  • 1:30:30

    I don't want his money? What's her name, his money?

  • 1:30:37

    Every fucking time we go out to dinner, he's like, do you want still or

  • 1:30:40

    sparkling water? Tap. You're like, honey, tap water's fine, okay? Let me

  • 1:30:45

    tell you something. I grew up 20 minutes away from Flint, Michigan. Tap water's never

  • 1:30:49

    fucking fun. Got a few clips to the Pretty Funny. I'm going to check it

  • 1:30:55

    out. That was hilarious. Crystal Marie is her name. She's somewhere in March. She's gorgeous.

  • 1:31:00

    Nice rack on her. Crystal Marie? People that can't see at home, she has great

  • 1:31:04

    tits. You will? I got you. Thank you. I appreciate it. I love comedy.

  • 1:31:09

    These motherfuckers are crazy. I am Crystal Marie. I really do love Crystal Marie. You

  • 1:31:14

    want to go? Yeah. Fuck both of y'all. Fuck both of y'all. Oh yeah, she

  • 1:31:20

    is funny. Yeah, she's funny. She's funny. She's funny as shit. She's funny as shit.

  • 1:31:24

    She's hilarious. I've seen her page. They are the worst losers.

  • 1:31:30

    Y'all want to go? Corey, you want to go? Fucking right. She's funny. I'll never

  • 1:31:34

    speak to y'all again. You see Ice? Yeah, she's funny. She's funny as hell. What's

  • 1:31:38

    your favorite joke? This one. This one. Knock or knock knock. Did you just walk

  • 1:31:43

    in the room? Y'all are fucking losers. It says knockers.

  • 1:31:51

    Knockers. I haven't heard tits called knockers since 1986. Oh, my Lord.

  • 1:31:57

    Oh, she's in Jersey. Oh, shit. He gonna go see her. Joe already got his

  • 1:32:01

    tickets. Next month. Wow. Her stand-up is called Call Me Mommy. It's called Call

  • 1:32:07

    Me Mommy? Mm-hmm. Oh, well. I mean. Speaking of Call Me Mommy, because

  • 1:32:13

    I'm sorry, delayed reaction. When you was fucking in the hot tub, you was on

  • 1:32:19

    top or she was on top? Who was doing the fucking? She was on top.

  • 1:32:22

    Okay, all right. Every time? And some of us

  • 1:32:29

    from the back. So she was doing numbers and you got delayed like a kingpin

  • 1:32:33

    while she... So you don't really know how tough it is to be doing the

  • 1:32:37

    fucking in a hot tub. Well, if you... on the back you do you still

  • 1:32:40

    gotta fuck yeah I guess you're right alright that's

  • 1:32:46

    it I don't have no more of ice hot tub sex story yeah thank you

  • 1:32:51

    the room be on pins and needles like I'm saying something important this shit getting

  • 1:32:54

    weird no we were being forced to imagine this scene oh sorry 20 minutes later

  • 1:32:59

    so you put your finger in

  • 1:33:05

    this hot tub hey let's do Uncle Tinderism Yes, yeah, because I knew that was

  • 1:33:09

    going to happen. What happened? Everybody knew that that was going to happen except for

  • 1:33:13

    Uncle Tendernism. And then when we tried to tell Uncle Tendernism that this is what

  • 1:33:17

    was going to happen, He showed out. He said, that's my man. This is my

  • 1:33:22

    white brother. Them good white people around there. Them good white people. That's exactly what

  • 1:33:27

    he said. Us a sick mess will get a cold and I'll get a cold.

  • 1:33:30

    He old though. That's what I'm saying. The older people with the good hearts and

  • 1:33:34

    they just, they wit who they wit and that's it. You can't tell them nothing

  • 1:33:37

    about these people. He come from a different generation anyway, but I feel like no

  • 1:33:41

    matter what, we will be behind his old ass and we will help him out.

  • 1:33:45

    But we all knew that was going to happen. did we seen this yeah so

  • 1:33:50

    uncle tendernism uh which is the older black gentleman who popularized the

  • 1:33:56

    destination smokehouse uh restaurant out there in cali somewhere uh

  • 1:34:02

    and and that's a white man that owns it right and that white man

  • 1:34:08

    trademarked the term the name tenderism Tendernism, whatever it is. Tendernism. And people

  • 1:34:14

    tried to tell homeboy, hey, he tried to trademark this three different ways

  • 1:34:20

    without including you. You might want to just be careful. And the older gentleman was

  • 1:34:23

    like, no, I'm getting paid. That's my man. It's fine. So now word on the

  • 1:34:27

    street is that they've split up. Old Mr. Tendernism is not...

  • 1:34:33

    working with the white man, even though the white man is still publishing videos on

  • 1:34:37

    his page to make it look like they are. I have not fact checked this,

  • 1:34:41

    but the older gentleman is saying, hey, y'all can follow me on here, which is

  • 1:34:45

    his own socials now. He's calling himself the original Mr. Tenderism.

  • 1:34:51

    And he might actually be using Tenderism now instead of Tenderism. But yeah, he's got

  • 1:34:57

    people offering to open up restaurants for him out in Houston. that he's negotiating currently

  • 1:35:02

    and he's showing us all this on his socials. That's good. Hopefully White Boy Roy

  • 1:35:08

    didn't get the recipe. Because once you got the recipe, it's a wrap. That's not

  • 1:35:12

    true. Not necessarily. He can give someone all the recipe in the world. They ain't

  • 1:35:17

    got the sauce. Right, yeah. And the selling is him. It's him. It's the fact

  • 1:35:21

    that he's this older guy doing barbecue. So my word would be he just get

  • 1:35:26

    himself in another bad deal because he don't know what the fuck he's doing. Once

  • 1:35:32

    you scale anyway, the man not going to be at every single restaurant every single

  • 1:35:37

    night. True, true. So I had to teach somebody how to do what I'm doing.

  • 1:35:42

    so that the flavor could be the same even when I'm there or when I'm

  • 1:35:44

    not there. That's a good point. So once I give the shit away to your

  • 1:35:48

    sauce point, But that's the thing, though. They didn't go viral for the taste of

  • 1:35:53

    the food. They were viral for the flavor of this nigga. For the shit falling

  • 1:35:55

    off the bone. Yeah, and him. It's him. Yeah, nobody knew how that food tastes,

  • 1:35:57

    but Keith Lee and Jordan. Facts. And I don't even think, and I feel like

  • 1:36:01

    in situations like that, people go to their restaurant, they're going to take a picture

  • 1:36:04

    with him. Line long, they ain't even getting no barbecue. It's him. It's all on

  • 1:36:07

    him. I ain't going to hold you. When Salt Bae had his run and was

  • 1:36:09

    opening up restaurants, niggas told me that steak tasted like pure rubber. Donkey shit. They

  • 1:36:14

    said that steak was horrible. Niggas wasn't going, they ain't giving a fuck. Niggas was

  • 1:36:17

    going for the picture of the little salt sprinkled shit. They come up with a

  • 1:36:20

    briefcase and do all that extra shit they was doing and then do the little...

  • 1:36:22

    He started getting kinky, started kissing niggas' bitches in the mouth. Throwing food in your

  • 1:36:27

    chick mouth. Yeah, he started getting kinky for you to watch me. I get to

  • 1:36:30

    lick your girl's titty. Great marketing and push a bad product. Sure. Yeah. A restaurant,

  • 1:36:35

    any of that. Yeah. In a heartbeat. And to Mona, your point, I don't know

  • 1:36:41

    that the original Mr. Tendonism is trying to get in a deal. Yeah.

  • 1:36:47

    I don't know if he's trying to be a restaurant owner, right? He could just

  • 1:36:51

    be licensing or attempting to license his name and His popularity to somebody who

  • 1:36:57

    has the money is going to open up the restaurant, get their own chefs in

  • 1:37:00

    there and just bring a crowd. Like, I don't know that he want to be

  • 1:37:02

    bothered with the nuts and bolts of it. Nigga, George Foreman sold his name to

  • 1:37:07

    them Foreman girls and went on about his business. That thing about people like Famous

  • 1:37:11

    Amos who got screwed out of their name. Famous Amos got fucked. And that's the

  • 1:37:14

    stuff I be worried about. So you can't even pass it on to your kids

  • 1:37:17

    or whatever. That's crazy. Famous Amos, Bob Ross. Yes. Oh, yeah, Bob Ross got fucked.

  • 1:37:23

    The original McDonald's brother Everybody gets fucked.

  • 1:37:30

    True. Yeah. That's a good doc too. It's not even doc, it's a film on

  • 1:37:35

    the McDonald's. That is a good movie. Ray Kroc. Yeah. It's about McDonald's and Ray

  • 1:37:40

    Kroc and the whole situation. It breaks down everything that happened, how he made his

  • 1:37:43

    money, how he screwed the McDonald's brothers or whatever. Ray Kroc. Does anybody here have

  • 1:37:49

    any advice for Mr. Tendonism? The original one, not the white guy. See, I think

  • 1:37:53

    the advice for me... It varies depending on how old he is and what's

  • 1:37:59

    his financial situation already. Like, if you're an older dude and somebody comes and says,

  • 1:38:04

    yo, you 75, and I'm going to give you $5 million, $10 million, you can

  • 1:38:09

    live out the rest of your days in bliss and leave some money to your

  • 1:38:13

    family. Yo, who the fuck want to be running around, opening a restaurant, doing all

  • 1:38:17

    of that shit at that age? You don't necessarily want to do that. So if

  • 1:38:20

    somebody comes along and you was broke for 75 years and they just say, yo,

  • 1:38:24

    I'm going to give you $10 million, Give it here. Whatever you make is what

  • 1:38:28

    you make. I could leave some money to my family that I wasn't going to

  • 1:38:31

    be able to leave them prior to this meeting. Give it here. Now, if he

  • 1:38:34

    financially okay, then it's a different conversation. But I think it just depends on how

  • 1:38:39

    old he is. He doesn't look financially okay. I know. And where his financial standing

  • 1:38:44

    is, I don't want to just assume. But I think that matters. Nor is somebody

  • 1:38:47

    coming to give him 10 mil because of his little cute name. I'm just giving

  • 1:38:51

    you an example. Show me how to make the stake. Crazy things have happened. Yo,

  • 1:38:54

    we could scale this shit. We could franchise this shit. Have one in LA. Have

  • 1:38:58

    one in Vegas. Have one in Houston, New York, Atlanta. Like, they can make money.

  • 1:39:02

    In all seriousness, I think somebody like you is the kind of person you need

  • 1:39:05

    to be talking to. Like, somebody who knows business but also isn't trying to exploit

  • 1:39:09

    them. You know what I mean? And it's not that many people out there that

  • 1:39:11

    will take, you know what I mean? Well, I think somebody, whoever told him, because

  • 1:39:15

    apparently you said he is trying to trademark the name or his name now. the

  • 1:39:19

    white dude they said trademark no the white man got it but he's trying to

  • 1:39:21

    do something with his you know like a variation so he got some information so

  • 1:39:27

    alright let me protect myself going forward hopefully not too much too little too late

  • 1:39:32

    hopefully true you never know what's gonna go viral that's the whole thing you know

  • 1:39:38

    what I mean you never know you're just fucking around the internet and then showing

  • 1:39:41

    how the meat fall off the bone pause yeah two days later that shit everywhere

  • 1:39:45

    it really happens like that yeah Going viral is cool. Speaking of going

  • 1:39:51

    viral, have you all seen the video circulating around the internet

  • 1:39:57

    regarding our brother Jim Jones? I did. I haven't. You haven't? Nope. Okay, I'll

  • 1:40:03

    show it to you right now. We'll pause and let you watch it and reflect.

  • 1:40:07

    Nah, nah, nah. Nah, I felt bad. I don't know what's true and what's not

  • 1:40:11

    true, but the video shows Jim Jones allegedly trying to kick open a

  • 1:40:16

    door of place from which he has been allegedly evicted. According

  • 1:40:22

    to reports, this video came from 50 Cent, who later put out paperwork

  • 1:40:28

    that allegedly shows that he was evicted. And I read it. And I made the

  • 1:40:34

    screen big. I did too. I ain't gonna lie to y'all, I did. Like I

  • 1:40:39

    said, I don't know if it's true or not. Jimmy Legs too little. From what

  • 1:40:44

    I heard, some people close to the story told me that it's fake. The paperwork

  • 1:40:49

    is fake. Said that the landlord is a bum and said that he don't be

  • 1:40:51

    doing shit. And he tried to evict Jim. And supposedly the document... For non-payment, is

  • 1:40:57

    that right? Supposedly the document that he created is a fake document that he just

  • 1:41:01

    literally created on his own, allegedly. So I don't know where it's going to fall,

  • 1:41:06

    but that's what I heard. And how about the kicking in the door part? They

  • 1:41:10

    said that the police came later on and made the landlord... unlock the doors and

  • 1:41:15

    leave the premises because Jim is renting the premises out legally and that's what I

  • 1:41:20

    heard. Even if you were to be behind on your lease, you can't lock people

  • 1:41:22

    out. You can't lock me out. That's what I heard. Especially in New York. After

  • 1:41:28

    that came out, a couple hours later, Jim did post in the studio.

  • 1:41:34

    They said the police came and made the landlord unlock the doors and leave the

  • 1:41:37

    premises. I don't know how true whichever side was, but I just want to be

  • 1:41:41

    fair to Jim and You know what I mean? Not make the nigga look like

  • 1:41:43

    a bum to seven million people. See, but that's the hard part about the internet.

  • 1:41:48

    And I agree with you. Like I said, I don't know what's true and what's

  • 1:41:49

    not true. I hope it's not true. I hope he hasn't been evicted. You know

  • 1:41:53

    what I mean? But once that video goes out, you spend the rest of your

  • 1:41:56

    life trying to explain some shit. And you can't roll that shit back. Because there

  • 1:41:59

    are a lot of people that will see that video of him trying to kick

  • 1:42:01

    the door in that will never see a correction or a replay or whatever. And

  • 1:42:05

    so it's like, that's what makes this shit so diabolical. See, I look at, Jim

  • 1:42:09

    ain't trying to explain it. Even in the video he put out, he had the

  • 1:42:14

    last dragon on the screen. He laid up the boards and chopped the boards. Again,

  • 1:42:19

    Jim, when he was up here, he told us, anytime my name trend, I'm just

  • 1:42:22

    trying to roll with the algorithm now. A lot of people will come out and

  • 1:42:26

    immediately start trying to clear shit up. He ain't doing that. He ain't did it

  • 1:42:30

    the last time. But he did post himself in the place. He wanted you to

  • 1:42:32

    at least know he wasn't evicted. Right, but to show that, A, I wasn't evicted.

  • 1:42:35

    I'm in the place. I wasn't arrested or anything. And I'm laughing with you. And

  • 1:42:38

    I'm laughing. Yeah, like I'm making some fun out of this. I like that about

  • 1:42:42

    Jimmy though. I don't come off like fake. He come off like he bitten with,

  • 1:42:45

    you know. Look, I'm bothered. They had the whole thing where he was saying all

  • 1:42:47

    the heat is off. He's in there, yo, yo, we, you know. Yeah, with the

  • 1:42:50

    fire, yeah. Yeah, like whatever y'all say, I'm going to play into it. I'm going

  • 1:42:53

    to have some fun. But from all, on the surface at least, it looks like

  • 1:42:58

    everything is all right over there. What's the other option? What's the other option? You

  • 1:43:02

    fucking cry. Exactly. What the fuck you going to do? He's handling the situation the

  • 1:43:05

    best you can. But I'm saying it's a shitty situation. He's going at it with

  • 1:43:07

    a nigga that's relentless. That's never going to let it go. So if you're not

  • 1:43:10

    going to take this kind of ha-ha, let's bid about it, you're going to fuck

  • 1:43:14

    around. Can't beat him at the game. Dog, you can't. You have to play with

  • 1:43:17

    50. I mean, really. He's unbeatable. Oh, my God. 50 get his eyes on you,

  • 1:43:22

    boy. He unbeatable. You were going to say something? He was about to say

  • 1:43:28

    something. Oh, no. No. I don't know what I'm about to do. What are

  • 1:43:34

    y'all making a 50 cent approach to this? I mean, like, this seems to have

  • 1:43:36

    started, I know they've had their back and forth over the years, but it seems

  • 1:43:39

    to have started again when they criticized 50 for doing the diddy-dod. And then it's

  • 1:43:45

    just been going off since then. I don't know if they regret doing that or

  • 1:43:48

    if they're, like, fine with it. I don't know. But for me, from a 50

  • 1:43:51

    cent perspective, I'm like, at what point is enough? At what point do you say

  • 1:43:55

    enough? I don't got to keep... When has 50 ever said enough? Ever. Well, maybe

  • 1:43:59

    a better question is when should he say enough? All right. For what? Yeah, why?

  • 1:44:02

    It's only for him to determine. You gotta assume he'll tire out at some point.

  • 1:44:07

    Yeah, but that's for him to determine when. If I was Jim, I'd be annoyed

  • 1:44:11

    just because I'm not evicted. Y'all keep saying I'm evicted. The heat shit, that's what

  • 1:44:17

    I was gonna say. The heat jokes were funny because following all the heat jokes,

  • 1:44:23

    We did see all them niggas in bubble gooses and avarexes and

  • 1:44:28

    coats and we saw like the breath coming out of it. So that made it

  • 1:44:31

    a little bit funny. But the eviction stuff, if I'm not evicted, which he's not,

  • 1:44:35

    because every time we see him, he's right back in the building. So it's like,

  • 1:44:40

    what am I doing here? What is to come of this? And at the end

  • 1:44:42

    of the day, people criticizing 50 for making that documentary. don't even see how that's

  • 1:44:48

    so crazy of a thing. You know what I mean? Because it's background where he

  • 1:44:51

    come from. It's police shit. So it's like some people look at that like what

  • 1:44:55

    the fuck are you doing? Especially when you think about the fact that he's tagging

  • 1:44:59

    his baby mom. So what are we really talking about? At the end of the

  • 1:45:04

    day that's just, you never know. I don't think making a doc is police shit

  • 1:45:09

    though. I'm not saying that making a documentary is police shit. I'm saying that People

  • 1:45:15

    that look at 50, I could see people thinking that that was corny or that

  • 1:45:19

    was whatever because of where he comes from. Because of who he is and who

  • 1:45:21

    he is. I got you. I got you. That's all I'm saying. I hate that

  • 1:45:24

    logic, but I hear what you're saying. I hate that people. I mean, you got

  • 1:45:26

    to be able to make a document. Because are you making a documentary for the

  • 1:45:29

    victims? Is that why you're making it? Because you care about the motherfucking victims? Do

  • 1:45:32

    you believe that in your heart? He care about victims? No, but I don't want

  • 1:45:34

    to hold him to that standard when I don't hold none of these people paramount

  • 1:45:37

    to that standard. Right. nobody makes docs for the victims. All the people that made,

  • 1:45:41

    I mean, very few people do. Maybe surviving R. Kelly. That's probably the only doc

  • 1:45:45

    I've seen where I know the people who did it actually care about the victims.

  • 1:45:48

    But in general, people make docs to make money. Right. So I don't want to

  • 1:45:52

    be like, well, 50's only doing it to make money or for revenge or whatever

  • 1:45:54

    they think the reason is because all these people in suits and boardrooms do the

  • 1:45:57

    same shit. You know what I mean? Right. But the fucking of the baby mom,

  • 1:46:00

    that just don't count. Oh, I'm not, I don't know if that's true or not.

  • 1:46:05

    His motivation, I'm saying. Because I feel like he's hated puffs. Long before that too.

  • 1:46:10

    But I'm saying whatever your motivation is, I don't want to hold 50 to a

  • 1:46:13

    standard of you have to have pure intentions when you make a doc because we

  • 1:46:16

    don't hold nobody else to that standard. That's all I'm saying. I guess.

  • 1:46:24

    But it's still a funny video. That's it. It was funny. Yeah. Ain't nobody got

  • 1:46:28

    hurt, so. Yeah. It's cool laughing at it. Yeah, I'd rather see him laugh than

  • 1:46:34

    see him pissed. Mm-hmm. I don't want to see Jim crashing out. I don't want

  • 1:46:37

    to see Jim going, you know, none of that. I don't want to see old

  • 1:46:40

    Jim. Right. So if this is the way you handle it, cool. Yeah. I'm with

  • 1:46:45

    that. Agreed. I wouldn't do a 50 zone right now, but there is a, I

  • 1:46:50

    got to admit, a little level of admiration I have for somebody who's willing to

  • 1:46:53

    just never. Wow, it says a lot about you. It does. Yes. But not surprising.

  • 1:46:57

    No. Just to not let something go. And to find new creative ways to be

  • 1:47:01

    petty. I mean, there's just a level of commitment that I admire. Even though I

  • 1:47:04

    wouldn't do this, I just think it's too much. You know what I mean? I

  • 1:47:07

    do appreciate it. I don't know. When I first took notice of it, I remember

  • 1:47:10

    thinking, like, damn, he must be miserable. That's what I thought at first. And now

  • 1:47:14

    I don't think he's miserable at all. I think that's really his thing. You know

  • 1:47:17

    what I mean? But, like, for me, usually when I see people that are just

  • 1:47:20

    constantly on it, I always think something's wrong with them. Like they're going through something

  • 1:47:24

    inside. Or a nigga is just rich and bored. And sometimes that's all it takes.

  • 1:47:28

    Like, all right, up, up. my person of the day. You done mentioned my, I

  • 1:47:32

    just need a reason. I think 50 literally. I think 50 just needs a reason

  • 1:47:36

    for anybody. Not a big one. I think once he got it, that's what it

  • 1:47:39

    is, and he's standing on it, he feels the type, I really think he feels

  • 1:47:42

    a way about these people he's talking about, and he gonna get it off, you

  • 1:47:44

    know what I mean? Well, all the people he's talking about, like, yes, it's bad,

  • 1:47:48

    but they be doing good. Like, Ja's doing great. Jim Jones is doing great, like

  • 1:47:54

    in the grand scheme of things, these people are doing great. people you talking about

  • 1:47:59

    saying something to I assume are people that are not doing so great so it's

  • 1:48:02

    gonna look away yeah that's interesting yeah like the niggas I would do that to

  • 1:48:08

    keep doing bad so at some point it sucks the fun out of it yeah

  • 1:48:13

    you look like a bully yeah and it looks like you're just having too much

  • 1:48:16

    fun because this guy is sleeping in the 430 now like so I think that's

  • 1:48:22

    the difference I don't know guys I don't know what

  • 1:48:33

    Happy people do stuff like that? People that are happy? Are you whispering? Happy people

  • 1:48:36

    do stuff like that? People that are happy? They'll be fucked with somebody until, like...

  • 1:48:41

    I think to a point. Some people deserve to be fucked with. Yeah, I think

  • 1:48:44

    some people do something. And what if that make them happy? That's what I'm saying.

  • 1:48:48

    Shit. That's a little sick. That's what makes you happy. I don't know, bro. I

  • 1:48:52

    don't know, man. Call me weird. Listen, man. It's a world... We talk about some

  • 1:48:58

    sick motherfuckers up here. If sitting there poking fun at somebody on the internet is

  • 1:49:01

    how they get their shit off, I ain't mad at it. Yeah, I guess so.

  • 1:49:05

    They ain't found this missing lady yet? No, I don't think so. All right, man.

  • 1:49:10

    You talking about Savannah Guthrie's mother? Yes, Nancy Guthrie. Yeah, no, they have not found

  • 1:49:14

    her. And as I understand it, the issue now is they haven't even shown proof

  • 1:49:19

    of life, which makes it. Yeah. That's the concerning part for me. Like, show me

  • 1:49:24

    something. Because I think they seem like they're ready to give the money up. It's

  • 1:49:27

    just a question of you got to show me proof of life. If it's your

  • 1:49:31

    own mother, though, do you wait for proof of life or do you roll the

  • 1:49:34

    dice? This long? Yeah, if they said, give me the $6 million. We're not showing

  • 1:49:40

    you shit, but give me the $6 million. Was mom a saver? Was mom one

  • 1:49:45

    of them? Like, was mom one of them, like, you know? That would mama prove.

  • 1:49:49

    Like, you know what I mean? Was mama a saver? Like, my mom would be

  • 1:49:52

    like, don't get them fucking people that money that you know I'm alive, you know?

  • 1:49:55

    But my grandma would be like, pay it anyway. That's why I don't fuck with

  • 1:49:58

    her. Let me tell you something. If your grandmother's missing, you're the

  • 1:50:04

    suspect. They coming right to your motherfucking house, dog. You can use

  • 1:50:09

    podcast lyrics. No bullshit. No bullshit.

  • 1:50:16

    They coming. They coming. I would need proof of life. After this amount of time,

  • 1:50:19

    I would need proof of life. Another amount of money? Yeah. Really? Yeah, man. Six

  • 1:50:23

    milli, baby. See, Josie, I already know Joe feels different. Well, I love my mom

  • 1:50:27

    more than people out there do. Well, that's what I was about to say. I'm

  • 1:50:30

    going to get my mom. But your mom's pretty cool, too. But I'm going to

  • 1:50:32

    get him the money from the rest. Yeah, I'm just saying, if we're at this

  • 1:50:34

    point, and now I haven't seen proof of life or something. And I'm the kidnapper,

  • 1:50:39

    and I'm like, yo, she's alive. Give me the money or else. I don't believe

  • 1:50:44

    you, dog. It's a bad conversation, but or else might have already happened, God forbid.

  • 1:50:47

    Right, but it's just money. True. Like, is mom naggy? You know what I mean?

  • 1:50:53

    Like... I'm getting moms, but before this. For sure. But I'm just saying, if you

  • 1:50:58

    get... If it was just money, I would have gave them the money a long

  • 1:51:02

    time ago. Without asking for proof of life. The police wouldn't even have to get

  • 1:51:04

    involved if that was the case. You know what I'm saying? Like, if it was

  • 1:51:07

    just money to throw around, I'm going to get my mother in the... first week

  • 1:51:12

    I can get my mother it's just been over a month yeah I would never

  • 1:51:16

    want to have a regret or what if what would you do though would you

  • 1:51:20

    give it up huh would you give up the six million without the proof of

  • 1:51:23

    life but see like just I love my mother less than a lot of people

  • 1:51:27

    okay so I respect it yeah so mother-in-law oh yeah

  • 1:51:33

    yeah yeah no I'm kidding of course I wouldn't get her either

  • 1:51:40

    I'm not getting nobody over 80. Yeah, like what the fuck are we doing? Are

  • 1:51:44

    you kidding me? Like, has she had a cancer screening yet? 77, 78. Yeah, we

  • 1:51:49

    were teetering. Is this nigga healthy? Like, what are we doing? This nigga's an idiot.

  • 1:51:53

    You done put out six and they last two and a half years. You're like,

  • 1:51:55

    yo, dog. You got to stay around a little longer. Yeah, shit. Man, you babysitting

  • 1:52:00

    for free. Suck-uh. All jokes aside. You got to work this off. All jokes aside,

  • 1:52:04

    yes, I would get my mother. And we are praying on the safe return of

  • 1:52:08

    this lady here at the J.B.P. Yes. Every night we pray about this. See, that's

  • 1:52:13

    the thing about marriage. That's one of the double standards I would want to enforce.

  • 1:52:17

    Like, if my mom gets sick, she do got to come and live with us

  • 1:52:20

    so I can take care of her and make her better. But if your mother

  • 1:52:24

    gets sick, we're going to get the best nanny out. Yeah, like, I don't know

  • 1:52:29

    if I'm jodding. I think a safe room would be

  • 1:52:35

    nobody's mom coming to live with us. So my mom can live in the crib.

  • 1:52:40

    But my mother-in-law lives like a solid 10 minutes away. Y'all crazy as hell. She's

  • 1:52:45

    close enough. Man, ain't nobody coming. Fuck that. My mom or his mom. Fuck that.

  • 1:52:51

    Are y'all crazy? Keep them close. I'll be watching the niggas that got to take

  • 1:52:55

    care of their mother-in-law. Not you, Mark. My other friends is doing it. They be

  • 1:53:01

    looking miserable, boy. Nigga. They be looking like

  • 1:53:07

    the old ball and chain. The shit that they be having to do for the

  • 1:53:09

    mother-in-law is like bathe them and fucking drive them places. I love

  • 1:53:15

    helping my... I love doing it, but during that... She had a fall in June

  • 1:53:20

    where she was staying with us for like a month or so. That shit was...

  • 1:53:23

    I was going to say hell. It's hard. That was very difficult. But when she

  • 1:53:26

    got like 10 minutes away, I take her to church every Sunday. Does she watch

  • 1:53:29

    you podcast? No. No, she's dealing with, she's an early stage of Alzheimer's. Oh, sorry

  • 1:53:34

    about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's a good one, yeah, Angus. Bunch of an

  • 1:53:38

    American Bandstand. Exactly. And so...

  • 1:53:44

    He do dirty shit. Yo, he's terrible. I wish y'all really knew who this nigga

  • 1:53:50

    was, yo. I'm gonna do the Mark Doc. American Bandstand, bro. I'm doing

  • 1:53:54

    the Mark Doc. This nigga's crazy, yo. Oh man, yeah it does. When it's her

  • 1:54:00

    mom's, it's really, you know, you can go stay with her and take care of

  • 1:54:04

    your mom's. I'm telling you, I mean, marriage, the thing about marriage, and from my

  • 1:54:08

    perspective, is like your families do merge in a certain way. And I really do

  • 1:54:11

    look at my mother-in-law like a mother. And I have no problem taking care of

  • 1:54:14

    her. I will say though, again, I like it better 10 minutes away where we

  • 1:54:19

    can interact, but you also have a little bit of space. Because the other part,

  • 1:54:21

    also like, it ain't the best place for them. Because it's just you and them.

  • 1:54:25

    A home is where they want to be. Says no elder person ever. Did I

  • 1:54:31

    get that off? Says no elder person ever. I always want to live in senior

  • 1:54:36

    living where it smells like a mop in here. No, you want to talk a

  • 1:54:38

    good one. No, but seriously, though, because you want them to be around community. Like,

  • 1:54:41

    my mother-in-law gets bored sitting around our house. Now she loves that shit. That's what

  • 1:54:44

    she got you for. Take her for a drive. I have strict rules for my

  • 1:54:48

    mother to never let her live in other places. That's like her thing. My mother

  • 1:54:52

    wants to be cremated and she does not want to live in one of those

  • 1:54:54

    facilities. Oh, yeah, my mom, too. I used to make a joke early on. Remember

  • 1:55:00

    getting bad? Time to check in. She fixed that shit early. My mom's like, put

  • 1:55:04

    me in. Really? Once I'm not good, put me in.

  • 1:55:11

    Really? The funny part is, I want one. In fairness, my mom took care of

  • 1:55:15

    my dad's parents as they age, so I think that she don't want to put

  • 1:55:18

    that on her. Your mom loves you. I wish I would put mom to bed.

  • 1:55:24

    in a fucking home after I was watching news during COVID. But yo, you rich

  • 1:55:30

    You go to a nice home My mom's in a nice home But that's the

  • 1:55:32

    thing though My mother has been in geriatrics for years She's worked in nicer homes

  • 1:55:37

    It doesn't matter how nice it is Certain shit happens in there There's a lot

  • 1:55:40

    of fucking that goes on Oh no, the elderly fucking That's probably a good part

  • 1:55:44

    But I'm talking about the part where You run into the wrong They're in the

  • 1:55:47

    Olympics That's like the most fucking They're fucking at the Olympics a lot They're fucking

  • 1:55:52

    a lot They said in three They had a shipment of 10,000 condoms And in

  • 1:55:57

    three days it was gone Yeah. Damn. For Olympic Village. Yeah, nigga. You know them

  • 1:56:01

    niggas in tip-top shape. They can nut four or five times a day. I thought

  • 1:56:05

    if you was competing in the Olympics, you're not supposed to be nutting. Yeah? Tell

  • 1:56:08

    that to the judges. What the fuck are you talking about, nigga? What? We in

  • 1:56:11

    Barcelona with nothing to do. Yeah. And you're in Milan. Milan. Oh, yeah, yeah. In

  • 1:56:17

    the mountains. What? Damn. 10,000? Come on, man. You crazy.

  • 1:56:23

    All these figure skater butts sliding around. Yeah. 10,000 condoms in three days. That's what

  • 1:56:27

    you're saying? Yes. They sold out 10,000 condoms. At least they were getting saved. They

  • 1:56:31

    had to re-up. You know ain't nobody getting pregnant up that bitch. You know the

  • 1:56:34

    time for that. I mean, we all Olympians. Yeah. Have some good kids.

  • 1:56:40

    This would be good stuff. Come on.

  • 1:56:46

    That's crazy, yo. Yeah, but the guy could continue to be an Olympian. The girl

  • 1:56:50

    She's done She got four years Yeah It's Olympics every four years She'll be right

  • 1:56:56

    back Yo God do that shit Yo man it's terrible Shit Tell me your body

  • 1:57:01

    We are terrible Oh man that's crazy You'll be back You'll be back You'll be

  • 1:57:06

    back Yeah Good job Good as new Good as new Man you motivated now There

  • 1:57:10

    you go That's crazy Go for the gold 10,000 condoms So if y'all was going

  • 1:57:14

    for gold medal Y'all be fucking the night before Your biggest The biggest night of

  • 1:57:17

    your life But Mark, you might not really... You might not have a shot. No,

  • 1:57:21

    our event might not be until Thursday. Today, Monday. I

  • 1:57:27

    ain't even fucking before work. I ain't with none of that shit. You don't fuck

  • 1:57:31

    before work? I try not to. You talking about three or four days away? I

  • 1:57:35

    definitely do. Nigga is 21 years old. I definitely fucked you up with my wife

  • 1:57:39

    this morning. It says it all over your face when you come. Isn't that good?

  • 1:57:43

    Oh, yeah. It's just, it's the timing, man. When you live with somebody, you know

  • 1:57:47

    what I mean? Or whatever, you know what I mean? Or sometimes you got the

  • 1:57:51

    time you got. Mine happens to be before show. And if you're 21, you ain't

  • 1:57:56

    got no reservations, nigga? At all. 19? 19? See, that's where the coaches come in.

  • 1:58:01

    Yo, you 19, you go through a box of rubbers like it's nothing. And it

  • 1:58:04

    explains why you be early. Oh, shit.

  • 1:58:10

    You know what I'm saying? Only eight in five minutes. Yo,

  • 1:58:16

    this nigga's an idiot, bro. You a fool, bro. What's up, bro, this

  • 1:58:22

    guy, man? Y'all seen the bi-athlete dude that as soon as he won the gold

  • 1:58:27

    medal apologized for cheating on his girl? know but swag

  • 1:58:32

    he's a bi athlete not bisexual oh but maybe he was I don't know y'all

  • 1:58:38

    have to get better y'all have to get help no I really thought he meant

  • 1:58:42

    like he cheated with a dude like a bi athlete that's why I was like

  • 1:58:45

    oh that's a story I think this is right up there with

  • 1:58:51

    uh I think this is Right up there with Teddy Riley breaking up with his

  • 1:58:54

    girl and then doing Remember the Time with Michael Jackson. Oh, yeah, yeah. Like, this

  • 1:58:57

    is pretty fly. I won the gold. Yo, I'm sorry, baby. I fucked up. I

  • 1:59:01

    had the best thing of my life, and I threw it all away over some

  • 1:59:03

    pussy. Dedicate this to you? Yeah, yeah. He got some pussy right before he went

  • 1:59:07

    up there and said all that. Oh, yeah. That's why the comments go on. Fuck

  • 1:59:11

    the ones with that metal on. But there are a lot of women out there

  • 1:59:16

    that really, really put a lot of stock in

  • 1:59:22

    how you behave after the cheat and how you beg for them back. And what

  • 1:59:26

    better way to do it? And this has to be at the top of the

  • 1:59:28

    chain of begging for your girl back. I won the gold at the Olympics. The

  • 1:59:32

    whole world is bad. And I think he'll get her back doing shit like that.

  • 1:59:36

    Now with probably an extra body or two. Or three or four. But it shouldn't

  • 1:59:40

    matter at that point. Love should win. Love should win. Imagine she kept it on

  • 1:59:45

    a low from all her peoples. just told the whole world. Yeah, that's what I

  • 1:59:50

    was thinking about being embarrassed. I think he knew that she told everybody. Yeah, yeah,

  • 1:59:54

    yeah. That's why he doing the grand gesture.

  • 2:00:01

    I was laughing earlier. I don't know a cool way to bring it up,

  • 2:00:07

    but I was laughing because you know when niggas have the...

  • 2:00:14

    We was playing out a phone call. You know when niggas have a side baby?

  • 2:00:18

    So we was playing out when the side chick called and they're going to be

  • 2:00:20

    like, guess what? I'm pregnant. You'd be looking at that phone

  • 2:00:26

    like, girl, you know what to do.

  • 2:00:32

    Send the video. Send the video. Yeah, they calling me dead ass.

  • 2:00:38

    Listen, the other night, girl, you know, I'm with my girl. Niggas don't even check

  • 2:00:44

    back in for nine months. Yo, you stupid. Yeah, come on. Don't

  • 2:00:50

    call my phone with that. Go do it. Come on. You know what to do.

  • 2:00:58

    Hey, we're back. Hey! We are back. We

  • 2:01:03

    are back. This is... What were you saying, Mark? Oh, just

  • 2:01:09

    a sad story. I mean, it's fucked up. You heard about this dude that just

  • 2:01:12

    got sentenced to 37 years? Yes. We canceled. Yeah. This dude is 37 years. He

  • 2:01:18

    got 37 years. For what? So he let his underage son

  • 2:01:24

    drive the car. How underage? And unlicensed. Unlicensed. Unlicensed underage son. If you're underage, you

  • 2:01:30

    got to be unlicensed. Right. So, and he drove the car, got in an accident,

  • 2:01:33

    killed a grandmother and three grandchildren. Ooh. Yeesh. and they gave him

  • 2:01:38

    37 years. Sheesh. And they gave the father the 37. They gave the father the

  • 2:01:43

    37. Well, they gave the kid. I don't know. Four? Four years. Oh, OK. Yeah.

  • 2:01:49

    That's from Keynote, so I can verify that. I feel like that should be reversed.

  • 2:01:53

    I feel like that just sounds off. Yeah, but giving a 15-year-old 37 years is

  • 2:01:56

    crazy. Shit. If my dad told me to go drive? He allowed him

  • 2:02:02

    or he told him? That's a good question. Part of the story is that dad

  • 2:02:07

    couldn't drive because he had cancer. Okay. So it's tricky because I don't know if

  • 2:02:12

    he told him to or if he just allowed him to, but it seemed like

  • 2:02:16

    his inability to drive played into this decision. If I have cancer and I need

  • 2:02:19

    to go get my cancer stuff from up the street and I can't drive, I'm

  • 2:02:24

    asking my kid to drive me up there. Like that seems reasonable. That's what I'm

  • 2:02:29

    saying. Pop was in the car with him? I don't know. These are the things

  • 2:02:33

    that I just think like us to- It's a lot of- That detail was not

  • 2:02:35

    in the story, so I don't know and I don't wanna guess. I think 37

  • 2:02:40

    years old for somebody that has cancer, number one. I mean, 37 years in jail

  • 2:02:45

    for somebody that has cancer is a little cruel. I don't wanna minimize the fact

  • 2:02:51

    that the teenage kid killed somebody and- Four people. Killed four people. However,

  • 2:02:59

    yo, that's a mistake. You understand what I'm saying? Like the child committed a mistake.

  • 2:03:05

    And I don't necessarily think that somebody should be getting 40 years based on a

  • 2:03:09

    mistake. Like people do shit purposefully. You could kill somebody. You could shoot somebody, intend

  • 2:03:15

    to shoot them and kill them and come home after seven, eight years with a

  • 2:03:18

    manslaughter charge. So you giving somebody 37 years for a mistake to me is unjust.

  • 2:03:23

    Right. And a mistake I didn't make. I mean, my mistake was letting my kid

  • 2:03:26

    drive the car. I didn't run into people. You know what I mean? I don't

  • 2:03:29

    think either person should get 37. The dad shouldn't get 37 because he made a

  • 2:03:31

    mistake. The kid shouldn't get 37 because the kid don't know how to drive and

  • 2:03:34

    your dad put you in a car. No. Yeah, I think it's because he's black.

  • 2:03:38

    It doesn't make any sense. I also feel like what the victims want matters. And

  • 2:03:44

    when I saw the victim's family on the stand, she's pissed. Of course she will

  • 2:03:48

    be pissed, but it's just like in a situation like that, no one will really

  • 2:03:52

    happen. How does that make you feel better that dad goes to jail for that

  • 2:03:55

    fucking long? Even if he did some time. But 37 years? She sat on that

  • 2:04:00

    stand like, y'all can still see him. When y'all want to talk to him, y'all

  • 2:04:03

    can talk to him. We can't call her. I mean, they're pissed. And that matters.

  • 2:04:06

    When the family is reaching out to the prosecution, reaching out to the state, nail

  • 2:04:09

    his fucking ass. They go a long way. There's some more information. The

  • 2:04:14

    16-year-old was intoxicated and speeding. when the crash occurred. That changes things a little bit.

  • 2:04:20

    But to me, not for the dad. Not for the pop. If the pop know

  • 2:04:23

    you drunk and still allows you behind the wheel of the car and you go

  • 2:04:29

    out and kill four people, you added that piece, though. What piece? We don't know

  • 2:04:35

    if the father knew preemptively that he was drunk. That's why he's saying if, right?

  • 2:04:41

    I said if. I said if. Like, that changes things. If homeboy took... We stole

  • 2:04:45

    a car. Well, I ain't never steal a car, but my niggas stole a mother

  • 2:04:48

    car, stole a father car, and we went out joyriding. And if something happened, it's

  • 2:04:52

    still a mistake. It's still an accident. Even if we went out and got drunk

  • 2:04:55

    and then the accident happened, my father didn't know necessarily that we was going to

  • 2:04:59

    be drunk. Do you know the whereabouts of those friends currently? Yeah. Yeah. Also, dad's

  • 2:05:05

    clean. We gave it to the police. What? Also, dad claims that he didn't say

  • 2:05:10

    that he could use the car. That's what dad said. Whether it's true or not,

  • 2:05:13

    dad said that he didn't say he could use the car. He had no idea.

  • 2:05:16

    There is something, and this just comes from my insurance background, there's something called implied

  • 2:05:20

    consent. So, meaning like, if he's been driving this car previously,

  • 2:05:26

    you know you have the okay to drive this car, like he's been allowing you

  • 2:05:29

    to drive the car. Even in this particular instance that he didn't say, hey, drive

  • 2:05:33

    it or hey, don't, you have implied that it's okay for him to drive this

  • 2:05:37

    vehicle. That's a good point. Yeah, but I mean, just to tie this part up,

  • 2:05:42

    implied consent, as I understand it, is typically like if I have a licensed driver

  • 2:05:45

    in the house, the idea is, like you just said, like you're a licensed driver,

  • 2:05:50

    you drive the car in this house, and so if you drive it every day

  • 2:05:53

    of the week, I'd have to tell you this day, but he's not licensed. You

  • 2:05:56

    know what I mean? And if you're drunk, I certainly wouldn't say that you're allowed

  • 2:06:00

    to drive drunk. So it gets tricky. For me, at the end of the day,

  • 2:06:05

    I... Nobody to me should get 37 years for this. You know what I mean?

  • 2:06:08

    It just seems like an awful thing to happen. Oh yeah, stage four prostate cancer.

  • 2:06:11

    They give him 37 years in jail. Yes, I mean, that's nasty. Sadly, he's probably

  • 2:06:16

    not going to live long enough to experience that, but that shouldn't be the determinant

  • 2:06:20

    factor. And the family more is asking, can he die at home? Because he's dying.

  • 2:06:24

    You know what I mean? You're not beating that. That's why it's grandstanding to me.

  • 2:06:27

    They could give him five years, it would have been the same. But they give

  • 2:06:29

    him 37 so they can say, look at this head we got. It makes the

  • 2:06:32

    public feel good. Right. And even with the family, because that's the thing. When the

  • 2:06:35

    family is upset, or when, because every family doesn't call the police. That's old.

  • 2:06:40

    That's old. Like, I think the boy should have been, like, what I just

  • 2:06:46

    read, it said the kid was traveling 76 miles an hour in a

  • 2:06:50

    30. So you need to be punished. I don't want to just dismiss it and

  • 2:06:56

    say that the little boy shouldn't be punished because at 15 years old, I had

  • 2:07:00

    enough knowledge and worth all to know I'm not supposed to be going 76 and

  • 2:07:03

    30. They gave him four, which is gentle. Four is light. Stage four prostate

  • 2:07:09

    cancer. Let's say he go in, God forbid, he does a year this time. The

  • 2:07:13

    young man that actually was behind the wheel gets four years. So where's justice? Where

  • 2:07:18

    are you? Where is the justice? I would want the young dude. Sorry,

  • 2:07:24

    you got to do some time, buddy. You got to do some time. Not four

  • 2:07:27

    and a half years. You're a minor. No, 70 and a 20. You're drunk. You

  • 2:07:31

    kill people. I'm not putting that on your dad. What would justice look like for

  • 2:07:35

    you? To reverse it. So you think 37 is fair? Oh, no, no, no, no,

  • 2:07:38

    no, no. I'm just saying the heavier penalty be on the younger driver and

  • 2:07:44

    health be taken into consideration at sentencing for this older gentleman. Yeah. That's what it

  • 2:07:49

    would look like. I think it makes a difference when the family is involved or

  • 2:07:53

    when the family is upset, especially if the family is in contact with the state,

  • 2:07:57

    calling the prosecution. When the family was on the stand, the family, the girl that

  • 2:08:02

    was testifying for her family, she was saying, you know, y'all can still call y'all

  • 2:08:07

    family members. Y'all can still see y'all family members. We can't. All that counts because

  • 2:08:11

    she was pissed. To add on to what Joe was saying, Him, I would want

  • 2:08:15

    him to, if I was a part of that family, I would want him to

  • 2:08:18

    be at juvie, transfer over to the state prison, go do some adult time, and

  • 2:08:21

    then come home. It just doesn't make any sense why dad gets that much. I

  • 2:08:26

    just don't. It's almost like if he was, I can understand getting all that time

  • 2:08:29

    if dad, if the kid was 10 or 11. Because that's really like, okay, you're

  • 2:08:32

    not paying attention to this little kid. You put a 10-year-old behind the wheel, you

  • 2:08:34

    should. Right, this nigga's 16. I just, I don't know. And I find it hard

  • 2:08:38

    to believe that dad know he high or drunk. So with Texas... I'm sorry, not

  • 2:08:42

    Texas. This is Florida. I was looking up Texas. My bad. Go ahead, Domona. Yeah,

  • 2:08:45

    but that's all I was really saying. I think that has a lot to do

  • 2:08:50

    with it, the anger from the family. And I also agree with Mark where it's

  • 2:08:53

    like they do things like that to set the tone for everything. But I'm still

  • 2:08:59

    sitting on it because he's black as well. Yeah, I don't think that 37 is...

  • 2:09:06

    Rest in peace to all the people that lost their lives. That is horrible. Also,

  • 2:09:12

    rest in peace to Eric Dane. That was so sad yesterday. 53 years old. Extremely

  • 2:09:17

    sad. Great actor. What is he, 52? 53. One year after getting

  • 2:09:23

    diagnosed with ALS. So, you know, just rest in peace to him. No long eulogy,

  • 2:09:27

    but just rest in peace to him. He's a great actor. One of my favorites,

  • 2:09:32

    McSteamy, as we like to call him. That's what you call him? That's what you

  • 2:09:36

    call him? That's what you call him? Is that what you call him? We fans

  • 2:09:40

    of Grey's Anatomy. Oh, you though. No, I call him Mark. That was

  • 2:09:46

    his name on the show. He's a great doctor, great actor, great part of the

  • 2:09:49

    show. I hated the way they killed him off the show, but you know how

  • 2:09:52

    Grey's do. But great actor. Again, just so sad to see so many people dying

  • 2:09:58

    so young. Yeah, for sure. For sure, rest in peace. He's around the corner from

  • 2:10:03

    me. age wise. 52. 52. That's young. It's so young.

  • 2:10:10

    When you get near them ages it's like you see how really young that is.

  • 2:10:13

    You know what I mean? Get your checkups brothers. Our brother just turned 50. We

  • 2:10:18

    can't lose you in 2-3 years. I'm getting choked up thinking about it. Hopefully not.

  • 2:10:22

    No we're not. You get your checkups though. I do. He get that ass checked

  • 2:10:26

    and all that. My nigga. He a man. He ain't scared a little finger up

  • 2:10:31

    the ass. All y'all get fingers up your ass to get checked. No. You guys

  • 2:10:36

    don't get your roster set. They have new ways to do that. Shut up. It's

  • 2:10:39

    blood. Oh, I always look forward to life. I still do old school, but. You

  • 2:10:44

    prefer it. I know Rob, I know that's what I'm saying. That's all bad. GP.

  • 2:10:47

    He requested. Just all the strength. He like, when they say, this the new technology,

  • 2:10:50

    Mark go, oh, damn. You like, doc, this up there, you got to use two.

  • 2:10:54

    Holy shit. No, seriously, y'all, you don't have to do that anymore? You don't have

  • 2:10:58

    to do it, man? You want to finger up there? They give you a blood

  • 2:11:00

    test, and then if your blood levels come back a little abnormal, then they'll go

  • 2:11:04

    to a different. Okay. I have a particular problem because of my health history with

  • 2:11:10

    my father who had prostate cancer so they like to do both. That's why. And

  • 2:11:14

    it's not painful. It's like to the first line of the index. It's painful the

  • 2:11:19

    first time. Come on. Then after that. You're a pro

  • 2:11:22

    now. They put a little lube on it. Because I'm not joking. You know what

  • 2:11:28

    else is painful? Pap smears. Pap smears are painful as fuck. Ask your lady. Ask

  • 2:11:34

    your lady. is cold. They don't put no music on or nothing. No foreplay or

  • 2:11:39

    nothing. What? They don't even rub you or nothing. Class of one. Metal. Get a

  • 2:11:43

    mammogram first. They put the jaw on. That's what they do. And they stick a

  • 2:11:48

    long ass other jaw and then they tap around and they put that in the

  • 2:11:51

    jaw. I want to say that y'all got the bad end of the God design

  • 2:11:56

    stick until I remember that y'all outlive us. They could come three, four times.

  • 2:12:02

    Just two. Yeah. You're on your own, boss. It's harder for us to

  • 2:12:08

    come, though. We can get it back. But it's harder for us to come the

  • 2:12:11

    first time, though, than it is for y'all. And y'all start coming, like, all the

  • 2:12:15

    way at, like, 12, 13. We don't even hit our sexual peaks till 40. You

  • 2:12:19

    don't get a real nut to be about 35, 40. Wait, you got your first

  • 2:12:22

    real nut? I didn't say me, nigga. I said... said that that's what it

  • 2:12:28

    is like that little tingle you feeling at 2021 is not the same what you

  • 2:12:32

    feel 31 and not the same what you feel 41 really get stronger every decade

  • 2:12:35

    I was about to say oh you took the party bus I had enough of

  • 2:12:40

    your shit that's it Mr. Button I do have someone here that sounds

  • 2:12:46

    like they need our help I know we haven't done this in a while why

  • 2:12:50

    you the only one that get to read them you can read it if you

  • 2:12:52

    want to can you read a little I have at it

  • 2:12:58

    Yeah, that's the one we read right there. This one does seem like... You had

  • 2:13:02

    to take the glasses off to read. Yeah, they just make me look smart. There's

  • 2:13:05

    no medicine in them. Hi, everyone. My boyfriend and I recently separated. Oh,

  • 2:13:11

    sorry. They don't give a fuck. We have two sons, 11 months, and two years

  • 2:13:17

    old. That's a bad time to lose that nigga boy. He has two children from

  • 2:13:22

    a previous situation. His daughter is 19 and clearly has unresolved issues with her

  • 2:13:28

    father that has caused problems in our relationship since the very beginning. I let a

  • 2:13:33

    lot of things slide, but once he and I start having children, I really didn't

  • 2:13:37

    care to work on she and I's relationship. She's extremely disrespectful, and all

  • 2:13:44

    her father does is minimize her actions and never addresses things to her. When I

  • 2:13:49

    became pregnant with our second child, she texted him and said... hope you and that

  • 2:13:53

    baby die. Commenting on a post of our oldest son, whom was only one at

  • 2:13:59

    the time, shake my head or something of that nature. Fast forward, we're

  • 2:14:05

    separated and now he is speaking to his daughter again and bringing her around our

  • 2:14:09

    sons, mind you, with no... Autonomy. What? Autonomy,

  • 2:14:16

    maybe. Autonement. That's what she has here. Atonement. Okay. Um... Damn, I

  • 2:14:22

    lost my place, y'all. Okay. On her behalf, a conversation, nothing. I feel extremely uncomfortable

  • 2:14:28

    with this, and it's caused me horrible anxiety around leaving them with their dad. I

  • 2:14:32

    just want him to acknowledge that, A, wishing death on anyone is not okay, and

  • 2:14:38

    for there to be some type of understanding regarding the seriousness. What should I do

  • 2:14:42

    moving forward to have a conversation with him about my uncomfortability without causing a conflict?

  • 2:14:48

    Okay. Also, am I crazy a 19-year-old wishing death on her unborn brother is

  • 2:14:53

    disturbing, right? Shake my head. I really want to answer this. Real bad. Yeah, go

  • 2:14:58

    ahead. Now, as a person who had issues with my stepmother, right, and I'm going

  • 2:15:04

    to walk this gently because my stepmom, she's still outside a little bit. If I

  • 2:15:09

    told you her name, you'll know why, you know. But when it came to

  • 2:15:15

    me and her, right, Well, me and him, me and his issues, of course they

  • 2:15:20

    spilled over to her. But it never really had anything to do with her, right?

  • 2:15:25

    For example, when my sibling was born, I found out that my sibling was coming

  • 2:15:30

    the day she was born. She has never forgiven me for not coming to see

  • 2:15:34

    the baby and not being active with my sibling when the baby was young. The

  • 2:15:38

    whole time, I was pissed that nobody fucking told me. He didn't even tell me.

  • 2:15:42

    I think I talked to my grandmother and she congratulated me on having a new

  • 2:15:45

    sibling. And that's how I found out. I feel like when you are the adult

  • 2:15:50

    in the situation, even though 19 is grown, you kind of have to like carry

  • 2:15:55

    it that way. So, of course, it's wrong for her to say, I hope you

  • 2:15:58

    and that baby die. But I'm also curious on why the fuck did he even

  • 2:16:02

    repeat it when she text him that? You know what I mean? I think the

  • 2:16:05

    blame is more on your mate, not necessarily the kid. And I don't think there's

  • 2:16:09

    anything wrong with them having conversations about the seriousness of it, but that's not going

  • 2:16:15

    to change the fact that she's the kind of 19-year-old that will say, fuck you

  • 2:16:18

    and them new babies you made because of her anger she has with her father.

  • 2:16:21

    Does that make sense? It has nothing to do with you or your fucking kids.

  • 2:16:25

    It's all about her and him because he probably didn't raise her. He probably didn't

  • 2:16:29

    do right by her, and that's why she's upset. She sounds like she just want

  • 2:16:32

    an apology. Yeah, the lady... That's it. That's all she wants. She just wants... It's

  • 2:16:36

    a conversation, man. The fact that he has... around the children and there's been no

  • 2:16:41

    conversation or atonement from her so she feels like what you said was wrong and

  • 2:16:44

    I need that acknowledged I mean holding a 19 year old to that

  • 2:16:50

    it's a little silly a little bit 19 year olds say dumb shit they say

  • 2:16:55

    shit they don't mean it's still an awful thing to say it is awful that

  • 2:16:58

    should be communicated to her because words have power um I also wouldn't read too

  • 2:17:03

    much into it. I wouldn't make that, like you said, I wouldn't make that the

  • 2:17:05

    focus. The focus is that relationship over there. Right, and that's where, I think that's

  • 2:17:09

    where the point of contention is because new mom... Wait, wait, I'm sorry. Because I'm

  • 2:17:14

    maybe delayed reaction today. I'm a little slow. Are y'all saying that the

  • 2:17:20

    19-year-old can say, I hope you and that baby die and still come hang

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    around the baby without ever addressing that? No, I said that's... Your mom should be...

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    No, no, I'm saying it's awful and should be dealt with, but I'm saying that

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    shouldn't be the primary focus. I want to know what caused her to say that.

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    That's what I'm saying. My daughter is never going to see these new kids again.

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    Y'all got these moms fucked up. I'm not mad at the mother for feeling like

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    that either. She has a right to feel that way. Y'all said she's being silly.

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    I don't think she's being silly. At all. I don't think she's being silly. Listen,

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    neither one of us said she's being silly. And also, if I'm paying attention, the

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    19-year-old's crying publicly is to shake my head on the post. She texted her father

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    that about them kids. He didn't even have to repeat it. You understand what I'm

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    saying? I'm texting him to disrespect him, using them kids. That's totally different than- That's

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    what I'm saying. You know what I mean? So is it small? No, it's not

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    small, but there's levels to this shit. The public thing she did where she knew

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    everybody could see was shake my head. So how tough, how crazy and gangsta is

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    this kid for real? Because- a man that knows how he is in the business,

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    you wouldn't even repeat no shit like that to your new woman. I wouldn't. That's

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    true. Who the fuck would say, can you believe this little bitch just said she

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    heard me and the fucking kid? It doesn't even make any fucking sense and it's

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    indicative on how stupid he is. I don't see it like that either. I

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    see that part. I see how it could be that way. No, I see that

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    part. I see how it could be that way. So, yes, I see that.

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    I also see how... It could be the other way, which is niggas talk to

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    their girl. Yeah, but I think... Yeah, but I'm not... It's not the same, Joe.

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    You want these motherfuckers to get along. I'm talking from experience. I've never shared stuff

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    with my girl that people have said about... Yeah, I haven't done it. Hell no.

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    That's awesome for all of you upstanding people. I'm saying in the event that this

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    person who clearly doesn't have a great relationship with his daughter... has spoken to his

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    partner long before these events have taken place about this relationship and his partner is

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    kind of his confidant and vent person and the person that helps him feel better

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    at how to deal with this. I could totally see that happening. I can see

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    both things happening. I'm saying that's a bad decision. Yeah, it's a bad

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    decision. Because you and your daughter are going to work it out. At some point.

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    Hopefully. And she ain't never going to forget that shit. Exactly. That's an assumption from

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    privilege. I said potentially. But she ain't going to forget that shit if y'all do

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    work out. That's my point. And it also gives like, the way you tell it,

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    it's almost like, ain't your fucking kid oh you know i'm venting with my partner

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    that's your daughter so yes you do you do protect your daughter in that way

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    where she's being a fucking asshole i'm not gonna repeat that she said some stupid

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    asshole shit that's your kid it's no way that your woman being your confidant in

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    the place you vent trumps your fucking kid that came from your balls no way

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    i'm protecting my baby that's not that's not true you're wrong that depends on a

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    lot of things that depends on the relationship yeah you wrong because i i think

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    this i think that as the man The man should have not, me personally, I

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    don't think the man should have repeated that. One. I agree with you. And now

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    the future has come to pass. You bait up with your 19-year-old. You got the

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    19-year-old around your new kids. And that is the reason that you don't tell your

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    significant other to that because you know they're going to hold on to that. Forever.

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    Rightfully so. They're going to hold on to that. So you being the man in

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    this situation, you eat that and just act like it never happened. And then you

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    try to create a level of harmony between your 19-year-old and your new woman because

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    you know they had it. at a crossroads and it's two kids it's two kids

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    and also there is a situation where that's a sign that this girl's gonna be

  • 2:20:53

    burning her siblings with lighters that is a thing but in my opinion in this

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    situation that's not indicative of that and I disagree with Joe on another point because

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    I feel like at the end of the day when Joe says oh she's never

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    gonna see them kids now no you lose the opportunity once y'all split When it's

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    fucking his weekend, you cannot control whether he takes the motherfuckers around they sibling. We

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    can pretend and play all we want. I've said this a million times up here.

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    But you take that to a judge, a judge is not going to say, you

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    know what? Restraining order from her with the kids. The judge is not going to

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    give a fuck that she texted that a year ago when the baby was one.

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    So in reality, if you want that kind of control, you need to stay together.

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    That's just like the guy that leaves the baby mom or leaves his wife and

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    you mad about the stepdad. It's nothing you can fucking do once you drop the

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    ball and the family's done. It's nothing you can do. If that lady want to

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    take them kids to the mall, make them dance with a cup in front of

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    you, front of him. That's what the fuck gonna happen unless the judge deem it

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    to be dangerous. For the record, I was saying that the dad should feel like

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    that for a little bit. Not the mom. I was saying the dad, if he

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    know that the estranged daughter got this type of venom and anger and rage and

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    hurt in her, I wouldn't just be so willy-nilly to bring her around my kid.

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    I'm gonna have to father you from over there for a little bit. Or he

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    might have did that for a little bit and could tell it was just words

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    of hurt. You get what I'm saying? Like, bro, kids say stupid shit, yo. And

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    if it's fuck you and them kids, I hope they die. Like, not I want

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    to kill y'all. Just fuck y'all. Right. Out of anger. Y'all told me the same

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    shit when I told y'all I cut a family member off for that. All of

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    y'all told me. Not me. You ain't me. No, I get down. When I said

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    what I fell out with a family member over, it was, yo, come on, dawg.

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    They say stupid shit. It's da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. We're

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    talking about 19. We're talking about 19 and a girl. Like, what the fuck? What

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    are we talking about? I don't know. I might be... And that's why I'm saying

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    it here. There is a case where that 19-year-old was abusive to her siblings. That's

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    it. We're not talking about him letting her babysit him, but them to see her

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    siblings... Yeah, she might not be around the kids by herself. Right, yeah. So I

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    think you can see it both ways. But if he's pops and I'm repairing a

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    relationship with my daughter and I would like for her to have a relationship with

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    her siblings... I'm here while this happens. Why? It ain't saying leave her

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    with them and she can hurt them. Because I picture him as an old head,

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    as older than the baby mom or the ex. Who's going to wipe his ass

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    when he's 70? His 19 year old. I understand what y'all saying. I've also been

  • 2:23:22

    in plenty of living rooms where the dude was in there happy with his two

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    new kids and his new family and the old kid from back in the day

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    that you had walk in and fuck the vibe up. look different, think different. We

  • 2:23:36

    don't fuck with your mother. Now you just in here to be around. New kids

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    don't fuck with you. You're looking dusty. You're cursing people out. He hates to go.

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    That might be the acceptance. Joe what? Get that old kid the fuck out of

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    here, yo. Joe said take a place to go. Get the old kid. He left

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    you for a reason the first time. Oh, Joe. Now you're back being hard. You

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    ain't learning. Stop, Joey. That's so mean. You still sending these texts? We love the

  • 2:24:04

    older kids here at the JVP. Yes, we love the older kids. No matter how

  • 2:24:07

    much your father regrets you, we love you here. And the fathers don't regret them.

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    Oh, they regret it. Hey, just remember, older kid punishment is different than younger kid

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    punishment. You can get dropped off somewhere. You old enough to just leave

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    somewhere and a nigga not feel the guilt as he drop off. We could leave

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    you a Chuck E. Cheese. You want to send threatening texts. Can you imagine? I'm

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    joking, but just saying. Have any of y'all ever had your kids say something real

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    nasty, the ones that have older kids? That would be you and Pride Joe. Real

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    nasty to me? No. No. when I told my dad when I was 19? I

  • 2:24:42

    was probably 19 or 20. Maybe we should save it for the Patreon.

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    I remember I told my mom, I don't want to be here. I want to

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    go live with Pops. And she packed me up and sent me to Pops for

  • 2:24:54

    the summer. I ain't say that no more when I got back. Not a good

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    experience? No, no, no. I told my dad that I would shoot him in the

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    back of his curly ass head. He has curly hair. I didn't mean it, Mark.

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    noticed that on the part of the shows you it typically triggers some type of

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    like trauma family trauma out of you have you been noticing that pattern that's a

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    fucking lie but this made me think because my five to ten years in prison

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    we came home we had children so it was a big thing to me I

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    wanted to spend a summer or two of my day it was really like a

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    big thing like it sucked yeah and now me and my siblings are

  • 2:25:34

    tight I'm with my sister constantly that's it But we did that. He did not

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    facilitate that. He did not assist. And I don't have that relationship with all his

  • 2:25:43

    kids. I have a relationship with like one of them where we tight. That's all

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    on the dad. And a lot of times dads drop the ball. It just sucks.

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    Because to me, this dad drops the ball by telling her that. I agree. He

  • 2:25:54

    flipped this fucking thing up with that pass the fucking ball and I'm going to

  • 2:25:57

    crack it in half. No, no, no, no, no, not at all. One of the

  • 2:26:00

    more important matters. The artwork says there is no

  • 2:26:06

    competition. You're my number one. There's no competition. I'm assuming the project is coming at

  • 2:26:09

    some point. That sounded amazing. I mean, well, the rapping was amazing. The mix is

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